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legendary
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We invite the reserve players to participate as well, if the player does not participate a reserve player who did will fill in his place.
I would just add that reserve players do not need to submit their ticket at this time but they may if they have it since it will be easier for them and us that way. Only reserve players that fill the form will be taken into consideration.

We will share the spreadsheet at the moment first match starts, anybody who did not submit their answers or ticket is out and we will fill their place with reserve player. At that moment reserve players that did not submit their ticket will have 24hours to do so.

Hope this has now covered everything.
legendary
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Hey to all,

the questions for the 1st round are here!

We will close submissions before the 1st game starts.
There is no editing so choose your answers carefully Smiley

We will send a link to the spreadsheet for transparency reasons once the submissions are closed.

We invite the reserve players to participate as well, if the player does not participate a reserve player who did will fill in his place.

Good luck and enjoy!
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I'm angry at myself at this point. How did I missed this ? It was a perfect chance for me to enter as I'm sure this World Cup will be full of surprises and favorites teams will most likely go home first so it is a great chance to pick underdogs in this World Cup. Anyway, I'll be watching you guys compete and wish you all good luck and my bet for this WC is France won't make it past groups ....insane I know... . Cheesy

One less French supporter, but I'm with you, betting some money on underdogs early, I would even go for handicaps once we reach KO rounds. France won't make it past groups? Who takes their place... Australia? haha
The French team is nothing without Kante and Pogba; the team has been struggling without these two players for some time now, and they are unlikely to advance beyond the group stage. You should keep an eye on Denmark because I believe they will make it at least to the semi-finals.

My only target is to beat Buwaytress as usual and maybe try to beat Harkorede this one time.( to proceed more than them.) Grin

It's good to set your expectations so low by making me the guy to beat... I'm honoured Wink
You are the minimum point mark anyways, making sure you are always behind my username   Grin. This is the only way I don't get bored.
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I'm angry at myself at this point. How did I missed this ? It was a perfect chance for me to enter as I'm sure this World Cup will be full of surprises and favorites teams will most likely go home first so it is a great chance to pick underdogs in this World Cup. Anyway, I'll be watching you guys compete and wish you all good luck and my bet for this WC is France won't make it past groups ....insane I know... . Cheesy

One less French supporter, but I'm with you, betting some money on underdogs early, I would even go for handicaps once we reach KO rounds. France won't make it past groups? Who takes their place... Australia? haha

My only target is to beat Buwaytress as usual and maybe try to beat Harkorede this one time.( to proceed more than them.) Grin

It's good to set your expectations so low by making me the guy to beat... I'm honoured Wink

I'm playing different strategies in pool, bracket, and the quiz format:
- pool: don't pick draws until KO
- bracket: underdog until SF
- quiz: no strategy, use brains properly I guess? haha

legendary
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Don't know if this has been asked before or maybe this question will look stupid, but I'd like to be clear, my question is:
1. Each participant will answer the question according to the schedule of the match where will their group play in the WC? For example, I am in group F, I will only answer questions when the 4 National teams in that group compete
2. Questions will only be about the National team from the group where I am?

You will answer all questions, 10 in total. The questions will be the same for all players and will include the games from all the groups.
All answers need to be submitted before the start of the 1st game of the current round, in this case before the opening game of the WC.

We will send the form today - so you'll have enough time for any questions.
hero member
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Well as a discussion thread, i come with news for all the people, i hope to bring Argentinian information, because im Argentinian and have the info more closely Tongue.

The news of today, in this moment Argentina team change his list of players.

Nicolas Gonzales (Fiorentina) its out of WC and for him enter Angel Correa (ATM).
and the second occured a few minutes ago.

Joaquin Correa (Inter) who play yesterday against EUA  and score a goal , its also out, Thiago Almada (Atlanta united) takes his place.

This two change its because "injurys" i put between "" because are more likely inconvenience than injuries, as you can see Correa has played yesterday. But Scaloni wants the players at 100%.

And we can expect more change stay tuned.

News by darbit your trusted resource of info....... Tongue

legendary
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Don't know if this has been asked before or maybe this question will look stupid, but I'd like to be clear, my question is:
1. Each participant will answer the question according to the schedule of the match where will their group play in the WC? For example, I am in group F, I will only answer questions when the 4 National teams in that group compete
2. Questions will only be about the National team from the group where I am?
That seems like interesting take but we decided to simplify it a bit. There will be 10 questions in total, they can be related to any particular game in that match day, all 32 participants will have same 10 questions and everyone has to submit answers until the same deadline.

If we had separate questions for the groups then we would have to try to choose players from each country in WC to make it super interesting but that would be a logistics nightmare and many forum users would be left out while some countries wouldn't have a representative.
legendary
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I'm ready! Concentrated, balanced diet, etc. 

On the other hand, Group H:
Portugal: VD309
Ghana:NoTblox 1
Uruguay:Rohang
Korea:fM

In short, an Argentina Vs Korea Final is feasible, I hope the Argentines can achieve it.  Smiley




I would like to add my commentary, in a very football  tone, (where I am from, the world soccer championships are lived as if we were the venue every 4 years) maybe for that very reason.


We are going to color my answer as if it were part of FiFA (fiction), that is, this answer in a personal capacity and does not correspond to anyone else's position, if not mine, that is, having said that, IMHO.

Hey! EarnOnVictor but fair play always.

By the way, although I see your activity, I would not think a priori that you are a new account.

So...
...//...::

First of all, the rules are there in the OP, and they are the ones that govern, there is no other option, I think you did not read them.

The general summary of all the rules can be found in this thread.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61222514

I was initially excited to see this competition that is targeted towards the world cup because it's a new challenge for the BTT members, but I don't like his arrangement. ....//...,,,
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Joseph Battler, is not the president of FiFa, fortunately for football, things have changed. 

....//...,,, I don't think others view it the way I do, it's not a competition that advocates evenness and access for all intending participants at the same time. This could accommodate only 32 participants per round, what about the many more people that are interested from the beginning? I believe they should not be disenfranchised too.

More of the same, you have to read the rules, they are there to be fair to the extent of their reach, since someone will always feel disagreements, if you feel them, read the rules.

In any case:
I think that Fifa never believed that it would have more countries in its organization than countries in the UN, what happened here (OP), in fact they were left out of these 32 countries, I mean users, people like Italy, I mean entebah o Colombia, sorry I meant webtricks, it's hard to see Italy and Colombia Outside of the WC, always in the minds of World Cup fans.

BUT, the repechage system that Fifa has, this active here, there are possibilities, although let's be honest, very remote, that they will enter.

There is a reserve list that you can see in this thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61294929

In which you do not appear and that if you wanted so badly you should at least be there, please! if two great teams like Colombia and Italy with a track record are doing it, what should a new country that is starting or wants to enter the most important event in the world do?

....//...::
I quite understand your point and on second thought it's a very good reason. I hope for a similar competition in the future.

Okay! There are actually 2 additional events, one paid, and one with free admission. And it is good to point out that I mentioned only 2, which are those related to this casino in relation to the WC and to the forum, but if you search you will find more things...

Both with requirements also to meet.

 I suppose you know, to qualify for the soccer world cup there are confederations, which are represented in the individuality of each user according to the country where they come from here in the forum, This is a multicultural forum, we come from different countries like Fifa, anyway...

There are threads called "Pool discussion" like this one, in a certain way particular, that sometimes given the few participants they don't stay at the top and consequently one could miss them, to me it happened, seriously, over time I realized that there were pools from several important leagues, there is even F1 and even cricket, etc.

I am going to give you a link, of all the pools that exist in relation to Football, perhaps I could miss some, if so, just let me know and I will include it, I hope to read your ideas, forecasts, analysis or whatever it is that it contributes to get the exact result of a game, guessing the winner is easy  Wink
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How do you propose to cheat actually? You are entering with bitcointalk name and you are sending screenshot of your ticket. Every ticket in Sportsbet has ID and we can always ask Sportsbet to verify everything. Is it really worth giving us some extra work when you can't profit from it in the end? Plus your account gets tagged by couple of DT1 and DT2 memebers and maybe even some further consequences on Sportsbet account?

I simply don't see feasible attack vector here.

Just be normal guys and play fun game, no need to overthink everything. We can also make it in a way that you have to sign every messege from BTC addy, and use that same BTC addy to deposit on Sportsbet. But I don't want to screw good people just because some idiot may cheat. Let him try, we will deal with it as harsh as possible and adapt the rules for the future.

Hey guys, play responsibly, this is all for fun to keep the world cup spirit alive. I know most of the elite members will not cheat and will try to be smart, but to the new guys who got a slot, please see this as a game after you have nothing to lose it's a free entry competition and we don't want the cro2 team to start working their asses off for something we could easily avoid by simply applying the spirit of sportsmanship. You were kicked out, you won the group, come to the thread, talk and laugh, that's all.

please we do not need to sign messages or verify our bitcoin addresses because the some of us will be depositing and staking with other networks and coins. Do not be concerned; those who wish to be over-wise will be dealt with. No tags

My only target is to beat Buwaytress as usual and maybe try to beat Harkorede this one time.( to proceed more than them.) Grin
legendary
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Don't know if this has been asked before or maybe this question will look stupid, but I'd like to be clear, my question is:
1. Each participant will answer the question according to the schedule of the match where will their group play in the WC? For example, I am in group F, I will only answer questions when the 4 National teams in that group compete
2. Questions will only be about the National team from the group where I am?
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I have an idea to help curb the challenge of people trying send in multiple answers, impersonate and whatnot, since there are 32 participants, and you don't want to ask for emails, you can generate a unique ID or Tag for every participant which they have to send along with other information they are to provide when answering the questions, the Unique ID or Tag doesn't need to be shown on public spreadsheet, but you'll be sure no one is impersonating another since each participant will be responsible for keep their unique ID/Tag.
I like the idea of Unique IDs or Tags , hope Cro2 team   implement this as a precautionary move against unforseen situations.
How do you propose to cheat actually? You are entering with bitcointalk name and you are sending screenshot of your ticket. Every ticket in Sportsbet has ID and we can always ask Sportsbet to verify everything. Is it really worth giving us some extra work when you can't profit from it in the end? Plus your account gets tagged by couple of DT1 and DT2 memebers and maybe even some further consequences on Sportsbet account?

I simply don't see feasible attack vector here.

Just be normal guys and play fun game, no need to overthink everything. We can also make it in a way that you have to sign every messege from BTC addy, and use that same BTC addy to deposit on Sportsbet. But I don't want to screw good people just because some idiot may cheat. Let him try, we will deal with it as harsh as possible and adapt the rules for the future.
legendary
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I'm angry at myself at this point. How did I missed this ? It was a perfect chance for me to enter as I'm sure this World Cup will be full of surprises and favorites teams will most likely go home first so it is a great chance to pick underdogs in this World Cup. Anyway, I'll be watching you guys compete and wish you all good luck and my bet for this WC is France won't make it past groups ....insane I know... . Cheesy
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And maybe not greatest example, but you probably don't complain when spots of signature campaign got filled before your application.
What has a signature campaign has to do with a competition for the forum members? I expressed that people should be given a level-playing ground and time and that the competition should be accessible to everyone. Do you think everyone reads everything on the forum at all times? It takes time, so why must they be disenfranchised? Well, one of the organizers has already replied kindly, so no issues.

I'm sorry if you missed the point. LTU_btc was attempting to demonstrate, but his right if you consider his example: a campaign manager sets a number he wants and selects those he only wants to work with, and when all slots are filled up, no one complains. But, to be clear, the competition was open to all and was intended for only 32 players because we are using the official FIFA numbers of teams participating in this year's World Cup, and because it is a free entry, I'm not surprised we had so many new members wanting to join, but those of us who are already on the sportsbet paid pool and those who have been playing for years were given a preference.

Having said that, you are still welcome to apply for a reserve seat in the event that a few members do not show up. Other pools are still open for a few bitcoin fees to join. Tbh, everyone was treated fairly. Wink
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I have an idea to help curb the challenge of people trying send in multiple answers, impersonate and whatnot, since there are 32 participants, and you don't want to ask for emails, you can generate a unique ID or Tag for every participant which they have to send along with other information they are to provide when answering the questions, the Unique ID or Tag doesn't need to be shown on public spreadsheet, but you'll be sure no one is impersonating another since each participant will be responsible for keep their unique ID/Tag.
I like the idea of Unique IDs or Tags , hope Cro2 team   implement this as a precautionary move against unforseen situations.
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We are actually surprised that the spots filled so quickly. We would have wanted to include more participants, but then it cannot be made in the same format as the World Cup and loses its purpose.
If you had applied on time, based on your forum status you would have had a guaranteed spot.
Thanks for this useful reply and kind words, I look forward to working with you in the future.

I was initially excited to see this competition that is targeted towards the world cup because it's a new challenge for the BTT members, but I don't like his arrangement. I don't think others view it the way I do, it's not a competition that advocates evenness and access for all intending participants at the same time. This could accommodate only 32 participants per round, what about the many more people that are interested from the beginning? I believe they should not be disenfranchised too.
I think there was enough time to join until all spots got filled. If you really wanted to play, there was wt least few days to join. And if you think that there should be more than 32 players accepted, can you offer how to keep format identical to World Cup?
And maybe not greatest example, but you probably don't complain when spots of signature campaign got filled before your application.
What has a signature campaign has to do with a competition for the forum members? I expressed that people should be given a level-playing ground and time and that the competition should be accessible to everyone. Do you think everyone reads everything on the forum at all times? It takes time, so why must they be disenfranchised? Well, one of the organizers has already replied kindly, so no issues.

I was initially excited to see this competition that is targeted towards the world cup because it's a new challenge for the BTT members, but I don't like his arrangement. I don't think others view it the way I do, it's not a competition that advocates evenness and access for all intending participants at the same time. This could accommodate only 32 participants per round, what about the many more people that are interested from the beginning? I believe they should not be disenfranchised too.

I would support you, but the reality is that many here talk but then they don't end up competing in the enormous number of pools that we have, and those of us who always play wonder how it is that since there are +1000 users going around this section we are always the same 20 competing.
And no matter how big the prizes are when you ask them for a few cents to enter, they disappear, it seems that they want everything for free.

So once a more closed format has been chosen, I will not tolerate it coming to say such a thing, and as they told you above, if you are so handsome, enter the other one to compete.

And yes, I'm being harsh with words but it's reality.

And this is my opinion, being just a player not an organizer or anything like that.

EDIT: I enter you profile and see you are new, so you can say that, but my words are true

I quite understand your point and on second thought it's a very good reason. I hope for a similar competition in the future.

legendary
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This is true, but I could also create 10 google addresses and answer 10 times if I really really wanted to cheat like this Wink
If I have to sign once in a week that is ok, I had silly idea that we are going to answer questions every day when matches are played in World Cup  Cheesy
Do you know exact day we should receive our first real questions, so I could make a reminder?


You could, but then we'd ask for your e-mail addresses in the forms and we'd ask you to write a post on the forum with the exact time when you posted the predictions.
We really want to make this as easy as possible, but have methods of preventing cheating if it starts to happen.
If, however, it does - we'll probably find the guilty one, and also flag his BTT profile.

First real questions will be sent out some time during Friday - so you'll have plenty of time.

I have an idea to help curb the challenge of people trying send in multiple answers, impersonate and whatnot, since there are 32 participants, and you don't want to ask for emails, you can generate a unique ID or Tag for every participant which they have to send along with other information they are to provide when answering the questions, the Unique ID or Tag doesn't need to be shown on public spreadsheet, but you'll be sure no one is impersonating another since each participant will be responsible for keep their unique ID/Tag.

A really good idea, we might implement something similar. Thanks for the assist!
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This is correct. We don't show your e-mail addresses in the spreadsheets but need to have some sort of control - otherwise you could submit 10 times, with names from other participants, without us being able to see who is doing it.
You would have to log in once in a week, so it really should not be a problem.
This is true, but I could also create 10 google addresses and answer 10 times if I really really wanted to cheat like this Wink
If I have to sign once in a week that is ok, I had silly idea that we are going to answer questions every day when matches are played in World Cup  Cheesy
Do you know exact day we should receive our first real questions, so I could make a reminder?


I didn't try out the test form too, but I don't think there should be any problem from my end when answering the questions, I'm also curious as to when will get each sets of questions because I wouldn't want to miss out on any, but I'm sure I'll be very active here during the world cup, I have less school work and stuffs, so I should be able to watch at least 80-90% of all matches.



I have an idea to help curb the challenge of people trying send in multiple answers, impersonate and whatnot, since there are 32 participants, and you don't want to ask for emails, you can generate a unique ID or Tag for every participant which they have to send along with other information they are to provide when answering the questions, the Unique ID or Tag doesn't need to be shown on public spreadsheet, but you'll be sure no one is impersonating another since each participant will be responsible for keep their unique ID/Tag.
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This is correct. We don't show your e-mail addresses in the spreadsheets but need to have some sort of control - otherwise you could submit 10 times, with names from other participants, without us being able to see who is doing it.
You would have to log in once in a week, so it really should not be a problem.
This is true, but I could also create 10 google addresses and answer 10 times if I really really wanted to cheat like this Wink
If I have to sign once in a week that is ok, I had silly idea that we are going to answer questions every day when matches are played in World Cup  Cheesy
Do you know exact day we should receive our first real questions, so I could make a reminder?
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I have a few questions after seeing the test page even though I did not participate. Does the first question count for any points? and how many points are awarded for each right answer? And how would a tie-breaker be decided? I apologize if the answers to these questions have already been answered elsewhere; I just didn't see them. cryptofrka
What do you mean does first question count? This was test and it doesn't count, it was purely for your convenience to see how it will work. There will be 10 questions each round and each of those questions count as one point. There will be some other questions like your username or place to link ticket that is on top of those 10 "real" questions. We will have tie breaker in each round, time of first goal in last game of the match day. They will probably be needed only in knockout stages and hopefully not often since 10 questions should be enough to get a winner.
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Done testing. It is working here.

People in my group seem familiar, especially morvillz7z being active in the NBA thread. I can't wait for this to start. I will be a huge underdog here. But I'll give my best. Vamos Argentina!

There are a lot of underdogs in my group, but I've only ever encountered you twice or less. I don't know how much football you guys know, that makes you guys more dangerous than Morvillz7z and I are. At least, I feel confident going up against Morvillz7z. The devil you know is better than the angel you don't know.

I have a few questions after seeing the test page even though I did not participate. Does the first question count for any points? and how many points are awarded for each right answer? And how would a tie-breaker be decided? I apologize if the answers to these questions have already been answered elsewhere; I just didn't see them. cryptofrka
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