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Quote from: ? on November 07, 2024, 02:09:37 AM

Hi. I received several emails from Stake regarding verification and receiving a $250 bonus for completing lvl 2 verification. I have been using the site for almost 4 years and I have invested a lot of time and energy into my account. Will I really lose access to my account if I don't verify by January? Sad

The only reason I signed up in the first place was to protect my privacy and I have had a lot of good memories using Stake, it would be unfortunate if I am forced to leave in the New Year. Undecided

If this one turns out to be optional then it will really be that just depending on you whether you do need to verify on level 2 but usually on this case on which if a certain gambler do hit up some
threshold in terms of withdrawal amounts then they would really be asked out for some other verification which might involved further more documents or something like this but actually
it will really be that just depending on you whether you do verify or not, but if this one isnt compulsory then i dont see a reason that you will really be that having some issue with it
as you can be able to continously able to play with the site.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on November 09, 2024, 10:01:04 AM

Skip the bonus and keep gambling anonymous and also loose the account in early next next 2025, for if I understand correctly, Stake is trying to get all her users to verify their account before January next year which is just a few weeks away..
So, if cryptowoman will prefer his or her privacy over just submitting a piece of laminated paper, or a card, over his account, then there is no reason going on with the kyc verification, he or she can just continue to play till maybe December 31st, maybe by then, stake will provide him or her two options, either submit your document for kyc verification, or withdraw your funds and have your account closed forever.

I didn’t know they were that strict now. I thought it was fine to gamble without KYC as long as you’re not betting huge amounts. I have an account there but don’t use it consistently, so I didn’t feel the changes, and I haven’t received any emails about it - probably just missed it. Well, in this case, it seems OP has no choice but to comply with KYC, or else they risk losing their whole account. I’m pretty sure other sportsbooks and casinos are also requiring KYC now, as regulators are getting stricter with this basic requirement.

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Quote from: Slow death on November 09, 2024, 02:48:23 PM

When someone nowadays says they want privacy, I immediately laugh. Grin

Because nowadays governments put cameras in every corner of the city, commercial establishments also put cameras. So when we walk down the street we no longer have privacy. To make matters worse, to open a bank account we have to do KYC, to study at school we have to do KYC, to get a job we have to do KYC. Nowadays even to use cell phones, operators ask for KYC. When we walk down the street we have to carry our national ID. If we want to enter physical casinos we have to show our ID. So where is the privacy? Nowadays we no longer have privacy. That's why I don't see any justifiable reason for them not to want to do KYC

So why using cryptos? Why not being just a regulated fiat casino instead? Customers would be fairly and lawfully protected at least.
You are part of their campaign, you don't care if they know your real identity behind your Bitcointalk account? What about former participants? What about people who have post their account name in some of their messages on the forum or in PM to their representatives? How do we know what they will do with that, they will never sell those informations or being hacked like the last time?

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Quote from: Botnake on November 09, 2024, 07:33:38 AM

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 09, 2024, 07:24:28 AM

Exactly, compared to some other sites which require a selfie with an ID and other stuff I think this form of KYC is still acceptable. For level 2 you don't need any other documents than just a simple ID so it's not that big. Of course I totally understand when somebody doesn't want to show their identity but if you want to gamble I think you don'r really have a choice. Other sites also ask for KYC sooner or later, that's just how it is. Here at least you get something for it. So there is only 2 way situation, do it, get 250$ and keep using stake or don't and stop playing from January.
Maybe they will leave the option open to verify later when you feel like it and reactivate the inactive account, but no clue if they will do that.

I think @CryptoWoman91 is more concerned about privacy than the KYC process itself. Even if they uploaded a fake ID, what if someday they require another verification, like a live KYC with a selfie? That could be tricky. It’s probably best to decide now, either go through with KYC or skip the bonus and keep gambling anonymously.

When someone nowadays says they want privacy, I immediately laugh. Grin

Because nowadays governments put cameras in every corner of the city, commercial establishments also put cameras. So when we walk down the street we no longer have privacy. To make matters worse, to open a bank account we have to do KYC, to study at school we have to do KYC, to get a job we have to do KYC. Nowadays even to use cell phones, operators ask for KYC. When we walk down the street we have to carry our national ID. If we want to enter physical casinos we have to show our ID. So where is the privacy? Nowadays we no longer have privacy. That's why I don't see any justifiable reason for them not to want to do KYC

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Quote from: ? on November 07, 2024, 02:09:37 AM

Hi. I received several emails from Stake regarding verification and receiving a $250 bonus for completing lvl 2 verification. I have been using the site for almost 4 years and I have invested a lot of time and energy into my account. Will I really lose access to my account if I don't verify by January? Sad

4 years of uninterrupted gambling with Stake is super-cool and I see beyond that, it's a good service overall, so I advise you to do the needful, completing the KYC is nothing so far you have nothing to hide. This is confirming the earlier report I read that regulators are on the neck of Stake and it's trying to get all his customers verified. This is certainly not Stake's fault from every angle and the $250 bonus is another reason to show that Stake is humane on this and feel your way.

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The only reason I signed up in the first place was to protect my privacy and I have had a lot of good memories using Stake, it would be unfortunate if I am forced to leave in the New Year. Undecided

Let's face it, Stake is not a no-KYC casino, we should expect this will happen someday. Mind you, privacy is even exaggerated and Stake will not reveal you to the whole world for doing that. If you are not in illegality, even the law enforcers are not the enemy.

How do we know in our current environment some people are indeed quite protective of their personal data. we can't blame the users either. but we know that Stake is also not at fault.
Stake from the start did not brand a gambling platform without KYC, all users know that and there are even users who have completed KYC long before their recent announcement.

I don't think my tone blames anyone whatsoever, I was just looking for a common ground for both sides. I wonder how it could be bad for him to leave Stake to switch to another casino but regret it later for bad service and/or inability to have his withdrawal process among others with another casino. The stake he has been working with for the past 4 years is what he should still stick with, he should not allow the KYC completion to deny him of that. However, I maintain that the privacy of a thing is being hyped, nothing is 100% private to be sincere. Let's just not do illegality, otherwise, such may be found and it will be easy. Anyone who wants 100% privacy should live in the forest, if you would enjoy the civilization, the proper documentation is part of the price.

You have spoken like a true OG, or perhaps, legend, privacy is indeed over hyped, with civilization, privacy is not really a thing anymore, like you said that who ever wants to live a private life should go live in the forest, that isn't even true since there are people who still go into the forest and may come in contact with you..

I would say that who ever really wants to live a private life or a life of absolute privacy should dig the ground and bury himself or herself there, this way, there won't be any one, no neighbors, no friends, no enemies to contend with.
Imagine people provide every single information about themselves to banks and other physical organizations, and yet claim to value their privacy when ever they come online, seems they forget that even banks and other government institutions can be hacked as well, and all the kyc data of their users stolen.

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on November 09, 2024, 02:15:16 PM

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I don't think my tone blames anyone whatsoever, I was just looking for a common ground for both sides. I wonder how it could be bad for him to leave Stake to switch to another casino but regret it later for bad service and/or inability to have his withdrawal process among others with another casino. The stake he has been working with for the past 4 years is what he should still stick with, he should not allow the KYC completion to deny him of that. However, I maintain that the privacy of a thing is being hyped, nothing is 100% private to be sincere. Let's just not do illegality, otherwise, such may be found and it will be easy. Anyone who wants 100% privacy should live in the forest, if you would enjoy the civilization, the proper documentation is part of the price.

I pretty much hold onto the same position. One can understand the frustration of people how have spend a lot of time and money, good memories and experiences associated with a service like Stake (or any other service within the world of gambling), but when comes to internet and the fight against criminal organizations which seek to launder as much money as possible one needs to be aware there will be situation we will have to settle for casinos which will require us to go through some level of identify authentication, not only casinos but any kind of payment processor or centralized wallet. We are exchanging absolute privacy for the sake of comfort and a seamless experience (or continue to enjoy such seamless experience we have had through some many years).

Proper documentation is part of the price and it is up to each one of us to decide whether it is fair or not, as in my case, I rather to give the benefit of the doubt to a big an reputable casino like Stake before venturing to shady services which advertise themselves as free of KYC, but are not as reliable as I had been accustomed to.

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Quote from: ? on November 07, 2024, 02:09:37 AM

Hi. I received several emails from Stake regarding verification and receiving a $250 bonus for completing lvl 2 verification. I have been using the site for almost 4 years and I have invested a lot of time and energy into my account. Will I really lose access to my account if I don't verify by January? Sad

4 years of uninterrupted gambling with Stake is super-cool and I see beyond that, it's a good service overall, so I advise you to do the needful, completing the KYC is nothing so far you have nothing to hide. This is confirming the earlier report I read that regulators are on the neck of Stake and it's trying to get all his customers verified. This is certainly not Stake's fault from every angle and the $250 bonus is another reason to show that Stake is humane on this and feel your way.

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The only reason I signed up in the first place was to protect my privacy and I have had a lot of good memories using Stake, it would be unfortunate if I am forced to leave in the New Year. Undecided

Let's face it, Stake is not a no-KYC casino, we should expect this will happen someday. Mind you, privacy is even exaggerated and Stake will not reveal you to the whole world for doing that. If you are not in illegality, even the law enforcers are not the enemy.

How do we know in our current environment some people are indeed quite protective of their personal data. we can't blame the users either. but we know that Stake is also not at fault.
Stake from the start did not brand a gambling platform without KYC, all users know that and there are even users who have completed KYC long before their recent announcement.

I don't think my tone blames anyone whatsoever, I was just looking for a common ground for both sides. I wonder how it could be bad for him to leave Stake to switch to another casino but regret it later for bad service and/or inability to have his withdrawal processed among other possible issues with another casino. The stake he has been working with for the past 4 years is what he should still stick with, he should not allow the KYC completion to deny him of that. However, I maintain that the privacy of a thing is being hyped, nothing is 100% private to be sincere. Let's just not do illegality, otherwise, such may be found and it will be easy. Anyone who wants 100% privacy should live in the forest, but if you would enjoy the civilization, the proper documentation is part of the price.

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Quote from: Botnake on November 09, 2024, 07:33:38 AM

I think @CryptoWoman91 is more concerned about privacy than the KYC process itself. Even if they uploaded a fake ID, what if someday they require another verification, like a live KYC with a selfie? That could be tricky. It’s probably best to decide now, either go through with KYC or skip the bonus and keep gambling anonymously.

KYC is not just a tick in the box that anyone can submit fake IDs and think that they will fulfil the requirements of the KYC.
If someone upload a fake KYC and if the gambling site detects that it is somewhat fake, they can ask for more verifications like Live Pictures etc. Anyone who have submitted the correct KYC details and documents, will not face any issues if the casino asks for further verifications.

I think by privacy safety, we all want that and it is more related to the fact that our KYC details are safe with the site. They will not misuse it or share it with other third parties. When you submit your KYC to trusted sites like Stake, you are very much be sure that your details are in the safe hands.

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Quote from: Botnake on November 09, 2024, 07:33:38 AM

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 09, 2024, 07:24:28 AM

Exactly, compared to some other sites which require a selfie with an ID and other stuff I think this form of KYC is still acceptable. For level 2 you don't need any other documents than just a simple ID so it's not that big. Of course I totally understand when somebody doesn't want to show their identity but if you want to gamble I think you don'r really have a choice. Other sites also ask for KYC sooner or later, that's just how it is. Here at least you get something for it. So there is only 2 way situation, do it, get 250$ and keep using stake or don't and stop playing from January.
Maybe they will leave the option open to verify later when you feel like it and reactivate the inactive account, but no clue if they will do that.

I think @CryptoWoman91 is more concerned about privacy than the KYC process itself. Even if they uploaded a fake ID, what if someday they require another verification, like a live KYC with a selfie? That could be tricky. It’s probably best to decide now, either go through with KYC or skip the bonus and keep gambling anonymously.

Skip the bonus and keep gambling anonymous and also loose the account in early next next 2025, for if I understand correctly, Stake is trying to get all her users to verify their account before January next year which is just a few weeks away..
So, if cryptowoman will prefer his or her privacy over just submitting a piece of laminated paper, or a card, over his account, then there is no reason going on with the kyc verification, he or she can just continue to play till maybe December 31st, maybe by then, stake will provide him or her two options, either submit your document for kyc verification, or withdraw your funds and have your account closed forever.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 09, 2024, 07:24:28 AM

Exactly, compared to some other sites which require a selfie with an ID and other stuff I think this form of KYC is still acceptable. For level 2 you don't need any other documents than just a simple ID so it's not that big. Of course I totally understand when somebody doesn't want to show their identity but if you want to gamble I think you don'r really have a choice. Other sites also ask for KYC sooner or later, that's just how it is. Here at least you get something for it. So there is only 2 way situation, do it, get 250$ and keep using stake or don't and stop playing from January.
Maybe they will leave the option open to verify later when you feel like it and reactivate the inactive account, but no clue if they will do that.

I think @CryptoWoman91 is more concerned about privacy than the KYC process itself. Even if they uploaded a fake ID, what if someday they require another verification, like a live KYC with a selfie? That could be tricky. It’s probably best to decide now, either go through with KYC or skip the bonus and keep gambling anonymously.

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Quote from: Slow death on November 09, 2024, 07:18:24 AM

They don't have a crystal ball to predict what those damn government people will think in the future. If they really told you in the past that they would never ask you for documents, it was because they didn't know that one day the governments would also ask for KYC like they do in physical casinos. You can't enter a physical casino without being asked for ID, at least that's what I've seen in physical casinos in my country. So why would governments require KYC from physical casinos and not from online casinos? It doesn't make sense and how could online casinos prevent minors from using the casinos if the online casino doesn't ask for KYC? My advice: do KYC, as far as I know at level 2 you just upload your National ID. This is not a difficult task

Exactly, compared to some other sites which require a selfie with an ID and other stuff I think this form of KYC is still acceptable. For level 2 you don't need any other documents than just a simple ID so it's not that big. Of course I totally understand when somebody doesn't want to show their identity but if you want to gamble I think you don'r really have a choice. Other sites also ask for KYC sooner or later, that's just how it is. Here at least you get something for it. So there is only 2 way situation, do it, get 250$ and keep using stake or don't and stop playing from January.
Maybe they will leave the option open to verify later when you feel like it and reactivate the inactive account, but no clue if they will do that.

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Will I really lose access to my account if I don't verify by January? Sad

Yes, that's why you have to comply to KYC to verify your account so do it before the deadline.

I refuse to upload my documents because I was told I would never have to do so. I guess they lied to me when I signed up.

They don't have a crystal ball to predict what those damn government people will think in the future. If they really told you in the past that they would never ask you for documents, it was because they didn't know that one day the governments would also ask for KYC like they do in physical casinos. You can't enter a physical casino without being asked for ID, at least that's what I've seen in physical casinos in my country. So why would governments require KYC from physical casinos and not from online casinos? It doesn't make sense and how could online casinos prevent minors from using the casinos if the online casino doesn't ask for KYC? My advice: do KYC, as far as I know at level 2 you just upload your National ID. This is not a difficult task

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Quote from: CryptSafe on November 08, 2024, 05:22:01 PM

There is no way you can escape KYC from a centralised casino that is government regulated. In your case, you are lucky you received a bonus to be activated after a successful completion of your KYC. I believe the deadline given by the casino stands hence their bonus for your speedy actions but however, if you feel your privacy would be breached, then you can simply leave them.

Oh, so he's been using Stake for 4 years; it’s only right he gets a bonus, like a loyalty reward. But yeah, he needs to do KYC, and we know some gamblers don’t like that. So, it’s up to him if he’s willing to give up a bit of privacy for that bonus. At the end of the day, Stake is still a regulated casino, so KYC is a basic requirement for gamblers.

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If you are being given a bonus to verify then you must be a good client which they so much hold in high esteem permit me to say. As a centralised casino, I believe their policy also hovers around KYC which is a must for all registered members as required by the government of their jurisdiction.

There is no way you can escape KYC from a centralised casino that is government regulated. In your case, you are lucky you received a bonus to be activated after a successful completion of your KYC. I believe the deadline given by the casino stands hence their bonus for your speedy actions but however, if you feel your privacy would be breached, then you can simply leave them.

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Quote from: Haunebu on November 08, 2024, 06:42:28 AM

Decentralised crypto gambling sites are the only way to ensure zero KYC these days based on my observations. Sad times.

I agree but even so, they're mostly going to go with the same route when regulators checks on them. The demand of players if ever there is a real decentralised casino isn't that much, there's also a lot of uncertainty on them. And that's why most gamblers still will go to the casinos that implements and asks for KYC. So, everyone just have to see it coming.

Wasn't directbet.eu who was playable without any account or verification, you just put a bet and sent the amount of crypto you wanted to bet on that bet and then you were asked to provide an address of where to withdraw your funds automatically if your bet happen to be won. That didn't last long, did it? That is why is very difficult for us to have one such platform that does not ask for such KYC and regulators are hitting hard on the platforms that offer betting. While it is their right I would emphasize more for the regulators of their slot offering to check on such entities as we don't know what is happening but a lot of shit is happening.

Yeah, I remember directbet.eu and then they have announced all of a sudden their closure. That's why those casinos that might say that they are kyc free for now, maybe after several months there will be changes in their terms and policies even if they don't want it to implement. We get to see most of their policies are like this, 'subject to changes withour prior notice'.

The thing is, most or all casinos that are not licensed or are not holding genuine licenses usually are the ones that often claim to be kyc free, a well trusted and reputable casino that is regulated by the government and has all the genuine licenses required for them to operate in different parts of the world would not operate as a kyc free casino, even if such casinos will operate as a kyc free, it will surely be but for a short or medium term of their entire existence.

It's about time gamblers realize that things are changing really fast, we can't be clamoring for bitcoin and cryptocurrency adoption which also affect both online gambling casinos and trading exchanges, and we expect any if this services or platform to operate on a kyc free mode.

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I don't know about stake KYC rules, but one thing I'm certain of is that it's a KYC casino if you have been allowed to use it without KYC over the years, which means either you have not reached minimum deposits and withdrawals that require KYC or something has changed with their regulators that made them demand your KYC. Mind you, you can't want to be protecting your privacy and be using a centralised service; it's not possible.

I am using stake platform for long term and already completed a big wagering without kyc verification but now they are making kyc as mendotori for gambling and they emailing there users again and again for notify about this. i seen they give time till last of December and from January kyc will mendotori for deposit and withdraw funds from stake.com
stake now a biggest and top gambling site in the world. so i am not worrying for doing kyc there

Stake already has a high reputation in this casino just like the centralized CEX which will definitely ask for KYC, honestly I don't mind at all because this has become a common thing to do, then Stake will keep our data well so that it will not leak, so trust Stake.com.
There is nothing you can do or refuse for this, because they are like threatening not to be able to open an account or the features they provide.

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Quote from: Haunebu on November 08, 2024, 06:42:28 AM

Decentralised crypto gambling sites are the only way to ensure zero KYC these days based on my observations. Sad times.

I agree but even so, they're mostly going to go with the same route when regulators checks on them. The demand of players if ever there is a real decentralised casino isn't that much, there's also a lot of uncertainty on them. And that's why most gamblers still will go to the casinos that implements and asks for KYC. So, everyone just have to see it coming.

Wasn't directbet.eu who was playable without any account or verification, you just put a bet and sent the amount of crypto you wanted to bet on that bet and then you were asked to provide an address of where to withdraw your funds automatically if your bet happen to be won. That didn't last long, did it? That is why is very difficult for us to have one such platform that does not ask for such KYC and regulators are hitting hard on the platforms that offer betting. While it is their right I would emphasize more for the regulators of their slot offering to check on such entities as we don't know what is happening but a lot of shit is happening.

Yeah, I remember directbet.eu and then they have announced all of a sudden their closure. That's why those casinos that might say that they are kyc free for now, maybe after several months there will be changes in their terms and policies even if they don't want it to implement. We get to see most of their policies are like this, 'subject to changes withour prior notice'.

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Quote from: coinerer on November 08, 2024, 12:33:13 PM

I think kyc will not mendotori from 1st January on stake.com. they just asking this verification for extra bonus. if you not L2 verified user then you will have a limitation of gambling and deposit and withdraw amount. i am also agree with you stake is enough reputable casino site so anyone can complete L2 verification without any worries. because stake will excryp all users deta for user safety

But I think there is going to something serious after the 31st December 2024 because I saw in the stake official site that they were asking kyc as kinda mandatory after the 31st December 2024. As they were announced that the account will be switch to the only withdrawal mode that's means those users who will not make their Kyc Level two those won't be able to deposit or make bet they can only do the withdraw. So this means KYC level two will gonna be mandatory after 31st December on stake.

Quote from: https://stake.com/blog/kyc-know-your-customer-casino-guide

2. What happens if I miss the 3-month deadline for verification?
If you don’t complete Level 2 verification by 31st December 2024, your account will switch to withdraw only mode. This means you won't be able to deposit or place bets but can still withdraw your funds and claim bonuses. However, as soon as you complete Level 2 verification, you’ll be able to deposit and place bets again.

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Quote from: ? on November 07, 2024, 02:09:37 AM

Hi. I received several emails from Stake regarding verification and receiving a $250 bonus for completing lvl 2 verification. I have been using the site for almost 4 years and I have invested a lot of time and energy into my account. Will I really lose access to my account if I don't verify by January? Sad

The only reason I signed up in the first place was to protect my privacy and I have had a lot of good memories using Stake, it would be unfortunate if I am forced to leave in the New Year. Undecided

It will be unfortunately really, because by joining stake since over 4 years ago, you should by now know that stake is not a kyc free casino, the fact they have allowed you play all this years without asking for kyc verification does not mean that it's going to remain that way forever, you should have known that as crypto and casino regulations tightens, it will get to a point where they will definitely require all their users to verify their account.

And you are even lucky to be among those who are selected to pass kyc up to level two and get $250 bonus, people like myself have passed kyc level that is higher, yet we got nothing from stake as a bonus for doing that.

So, I advice you take the offer, verification doesn't take much time, but if you are head bent on not having your personal ID handed over to (perhaps) your favorite casino, then be ready to (maybe) loose access to your account by January.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on November 08, 2024, 01:20:52 PM

Quote from: Haunebu on November 08, 2024, 06:42:28 AM

Decentralised crypto gambling sites are the only way to ensure zero KYC these days based on my observations. Sad times.

I agree but even so, they're mostly going to go with the same route when regulators checks on them. The demand of players if ever there is a real decentralised casino isn't that much, there's also a lot of uncertainty on them. And that's why most gamblers still will go to the casinos that implements and asks for KYC. So, everyone just have to see it coming.

Wasn't directbet.eu who was playable without any account or verification, you just put a bet and sent the amount of crypto you wanted to bet on that bet and then you were asked to provide an address of where to withdraw your funds automatically if your bet happen to be won. That didn't last long, did it? That is why is very difficult for us to have one such platform that does not ask for such KYC and regulators are hitting hard on the platforms that offer betting. While it is their right I would emphasize more for the regulators of their slot offering to check on such entities as we don't know what is happening but a lot of shit is happening.

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