Topic: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam. - page 3. (Read 5706 times)

I actually just posted about this in their thread yesterday.

They are currently paying about 10% of what most other campaigns pay, except the lightlord/777coin campaigns . They replied to my concerns, but I am not sure they understood what my concerns are, or that he even read the majority of my post -- his reply was mostly skewed (and incorrect) information about why people should join his campaign.

IIRC, even when he opened his thread, they were still paying a fairly low rate, but had a very high maximum, which remains unchanged (0.1 BTC/week). I would say they roughly halved their /post rates, so perhaps their previous rates were roughly 20% of what most other campaigns paid.

IIRC, back in the day, they (and most /post campaigns with high post limits) would pay 0.001BTC for high ranking accounts, and the "fixed rate" campaigns, that generally required 50 posts/month would pay 0.1BTC per month, so the /post campaigns paid roughly 50% of the "fixed rate" campaigns. Except now, the higher rate campaigns now generally pay /post, and have 50 post/week maximums, or about 4x what was previously required for "fixed rate" campaigns.

Unless you are making thousands of posts/month, it does not make any sense to join their campaign if you qualify for another campaign that pays "market" rates.

They probably lowered the rate because Bitcoin went up in price. But the topic title still says "Earn up to 0.1 BTC weekly".
Let's see how many posts that requires:
Bitcoinaverage: 8778.91 USD per Bitcoin.
Hero/Legendary: $3 per 10 posts > 0.00003417 BTC per post
Animated avatar: +25% > 0.00004272 BTC per post
Personal text: 0.0001 BTC weekly

That means they pay up to 2338 posts per week for the highest paying ranks, and many times more for the lowest ranks.

Stake signature campaign could be worst than yobit in the long run, good posters will leave as the rate is the cheapest.
It's just funny that they started with a good rate and now they suddenly become the lowest, I don't know their reason, but I don't like their action.

IMO, even decent spammers would not be attracted with these rates, and they will prefer bounty hunting even though they are not certain they'll get a good reward than posting a lot to earn a decent amount which would possibly risk their account of getting ban for spamming.

Now i see where the hate is coming from lol. If you're that intelligent as you claim to be then you would understand there is actually more to Bitcointalk than just understanding how the technology works. The forum has out grown it's initial purpose to accommodating other cryptocurrency and aspect of our everyday life like politics etc. Next time you come across these posts, relax yourself read and reread again but if you still don't see some sense in what they have written then go seek for help because the problem is from you not them.


We are discussing on spam related issues here so don't think it's off topic.

I'm sure it will increase,the bounty manager Steve defended the payment structure it now takes it or leave for bounty hunters so expect to see more spam comments some participants will now have to double their output so they can cash out in their website I read that their is a minimum threshold before you can cashout there.

But its totally off topic to this discussion.

Just because a post is long doesn't mean it is good.  We have seen many posters go by on this forum and appear to be intelligent by typing out a magnitude of long words over many paragraphs.  These people are always participating in signature campaigns such as chip mixer to appear like they are on another level but it is really just a spammer underneath the shiny exterior.  We had members like Mr Gator and the Pharmacist crapping out line after line with no real knowledge of how bitcoin even works, couldn't even understand a very basic equation.  This reminds me of the days of the early internet when we were flooded with a barrage of advertisements, people were seeking money in any which was possible but money does indeed do things that you may want to do and if you made it this far you see that I have a lot of good points to make.  Giving out advice is something I tend to do as I have learned from the many greats like Tony Robbins and other notable speakers, which reminds me of the great Abraham Lincoln who Join Voight just said is one of the greatest presidents of all time.  But that got me thinking does this forum have a president? Well perhaps but it is more like a dictator with absolute power over everything.

Be rest assured theymos has already seen this thread beside during the time of the whole yobit madness this signature campaign was also mentioned numerous times but I guess the fact the campaign is been managed from the forum is what's still keeping it active.

For now, we can only report spam post then wait for moderators to do their jobs if you feel it still needs theymos's intervention you can send him a DM with link to thread, no need moving thread to meta.

I think there should be a thread regarding this issue on META,then it may get attention of theymos and will conclusion to all these spam invaders just like what happened to YOBIT.

Anyone agrees that it needs to be moved to META now?

I am not sure why don't they limit the amount of users who does quality post and pay a decent amount rather than allowing spam as every participant will now shit all over with the the current payment structure, the amount of spam will increase without a doubt and stake will be another campaign that will be banned just like Yobit from this board.

Latest update on this campaign is, they lowered the rate, from Bitcoin payment they've made it to dollar equal payment 
now the participants are receiving 3 times less than they were receiving when the campaign started when Bitcoin was trading at $4000 level
nice tricks.


Pay rates

Hero/Legendary - $3 per 10 posts

Sr. member - $2 per 10 posts

Full member - $1 per 10 posts

Jr/Member - 50¢ per 10 posts

Insubstantial posts include those that are general, repeated, vague statements extended/padded out with inner repetitions or pointless words jammed in there, or perhaps some run-on sentences that seem like they add something of worth (perhaps not much but enough to perform outside the definition of spam) yet in reality are just sentences that restate the previously-discussed information.

Above is an example of a post that can be shortened thusly: Spam posts contain general, repeated, and/or vague statements to pad for extra length.

Haha!  I usually report posts if it's just one liners or incoherant babble, but many or most of these stake post spammers are entire paragraphs so I'm a bit cautious about weather to report them or not - even if they are mindless ramblings stating the blatantly obvious. I've got a 98% reporting rate, so I guess I'm getting it mostly right.....

Instead of hitting the ignore button, hit the report to the mods one and write that it is just a Stake signature spam. Doing so will benefit the others reading the same shit, like you did, don't be selfish and improve your report score

Isn't communist about workers controlling the means of production?

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I don't think that signature campaigns that incentivize spam should be allowed to proliferate on the forum. Paying for someone to post up to 1000+ times is certainly not something that benefits the forum... is it?

It's not even an arguement anymore - it is definately the worst. My ignore cell is overflowing with stake.....lol

Seriously though, can something be done apart from constantly hammering the ignore button? For the casual reader who isn't logged in, this forum is just covered in shitposts - it's terrible.

That just proves that this forum is going down, so you want to tag the people running this signature, or the ones promoting the signature because these are two different things. Of course you will tag this way only signatures approved by the communists being on DT will be allowed.

Could I argue that this spam is scamming my brain and thus properly tag the people behind it? That would be within the new guidelines.

Very. I'd argue that the Stake campaign is the worst on the forum now (wouldn't have been if Yobit was still around).

A glorious Stake-started thread here:

https://web.archive.org/web/20190521081654/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5134267.0

I'd bet there's some alts in that thread too.

I actually think the Stake spam is worse now than it was back in the PrimeDice day. The worst of the PD spammers were quickly temp banned and most got the message once they did but there's far too many for staff to handle and it's not something we should have to deal with in the first place. There's far more people who have come to this board just for sig campaigns compared to back in the old days where it was mostly just existing users joining them, but I guess PrimeDice was the catalyst in popularising campaigns and once word got out then people flocked to the forum to abuse them and we ended up in the situation we have today where people have farmed accounts on an industrial scale to use just to earn via posting. Because Stake are seemingly accepting anyone and everyone those farmers are going to take advantage of it, especially because there's a lack of other campaigns for them to easily get on these days. All they need to do is do a bit of quality control and there wouldn't be any issues.

Ironic