Topic: Stake.com (SteveStake) is encouraging spam. - page 9. (Read 5590 times)

You should stop promoting cryptocurrency. It's related to illicit activity and you are promoting such a terrible, terrible thing to underage children. How immoral of you

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Brilliant. Actual campaign managers that care about rooting out spam will make the forum a better place.

Actually the first campaign have spreadsheet so we can see how some users behave when they have the opportunity to post up to 200 posts per week. Most is still below the limit of 50 post per week, but few users post more then 100 post, and one is commend by campaign manager for reaching post cap of 200 posts.

I think they are not doing right this campaign, some basic rules are ignored and many participants have no minimum predisposition to participate in any signature campaign.

I forwarded this to Steve and the rest of the Stake team. Obviously there are some valid points highlighted here, there is no doubt that this is creating a huge amount of spam. Hopefully they can make some changes that the community finds agreeable.

What about promoting harzard to underaged people ?Why don't you need to reduce that too ?


Oh just saw your signatur.Now i know why you don't feel that need

I've sent Stunna a PM, asking to check this thread.

Seems they are going to change few rules as we discussed here and their thread. Just now noticed from their campaign thread. I will take it positively at least they understand that their few rules should be reconsider, that was the reason why I have opened this thread. My intention isn't harass someone, we just need reduce spam from forum. Let's wait what changes they are going to do.



However I will keep open this thread for further discussion.

 I don't think anyone has been punished around here for not knowing English. Users from non English speaking backgrounds are punished for joining signature campaigns and posting outside of their means. If they cannot make a post(constructive) that makes sense and is on topic in the English boards, then they need to stay in their local boards until they learn the language better. I'm just giving reasons as to why users may get a red tag if English is not a language they know well, not anything about you.


I was wondering if a thread about this Campaign would be made. As long as this manager keeps an eye on the participants and is strict about the posts, things should be fine. Obviously by seeing the post by Darkstar we can see that users are posting some trash, but we do not know if they are being paid for that trash yet.

We will be able to tell a lot more when we see who is paid and what rate they earn as to whether this Steve guy is doing a good job.

Now more to the point of your questions. Do I think he is doing right? No, I think users will post like crazy to make the campaign worth their time. I think he is tempting users to get banned for spam. I think it's a very bad move on the part of Stake, but that's just my opinion. We, the community has 0 say in what they offer participants as far as payrate goes. That's between the manager and the site they are advertising.(Even if it's an owner of the site on a new account)

You gotta remember a site's main objective is to attract players. They want as many people in the bitcoin world as possible seeing their Advertisement. They could care less who get's banned or whatnot. They want the most bang for their buck. Can you blame them? I understand their stance as well, they just need to come up with a payment option that can best achieve what they want while not making the community go nuts.

We the community do have a choice as to whether or not apply for the campaign. So, if some campaign like this pops up, users should just not join or not fall for temptation. You either can deal with the low rate offered and move on, or join and take your chances at getting banned by spamming. Why risk it? Seems to me the choice should be do not join, and show the company you would rather support the community then make a few dollars and risk being tossed from the community.

I have no issues with Stake or any other site, Just my opinions

isn't this what most campaigns do? they all have the word "quality" there and most of them don't seem to follow through. a single test would be counting merit for those people wearing signatures, i am pretty sure the majority of them don't even have a rate of 1 to 10 merit to post ratio, they all seem to post the same shit everyday and since they still get paid, why should they bother?

So we should start tagging people because they didn't have the chance to be taught english early on, or simply because they have poor knowledge/are stupid?

Seems a bit extreme.

Bitcoin is illegal most of country, so we need to stop promoting Bitcoin ? Should we leave this Bitcoin related forum? Did you?


No one tagged him yet. My intention isn't tag him, my intention is discourage spam.

I don't think so.


Are DT members deciding who will accept or reject ?

Is Bitcoin created for only western country ? Has Satoshi Nakamoto told you that Bitcoin created only for western country?  Don't ask stupid questions.

Never mind, red always against DT members.

Funny i just checked today myself for the first time signatur campaigns and realised that no accounts with negative trust are being accepted anymore.
So you can say DT members who are abusing their power or giving false rating on purpose are instantly destroying the possibility to earn some BTC using these signatures.
Seeing also the biggest DT supporters their hunting for these signatures made me laugh.

You destroy legit accounts which created a lot of good content in the past and are getting flooded now with newbie accounts.
Soon there will be no more high ranked accounts without red taggs.

Also the rule if somebody receives a red tagg from a DT member won't get paid is the biggest joke.
Is a DT member playing BOSS deciding who will get paid and who not ?
I think these campaign managers are a little bit to much brain damaged by these DT abusers how else could you explain enforcing such nonsense.

I sent out of interrest some PM's asking if false negative trust is an issue.Will love to see their replies.


Its really funny the people who are yelling the loudest about signature being the biggest shit on this forum are all wearing these nice signatures which is mainly promoting hazard.... which btw is in most countries ilegal (even promoting it).

And since its ilegal am asking myself where are here our honorable DT members protecting our community from scams which are by law ilegal ?

Some examples of the high quality posting brought to you by the Stake campaign:

I was actually considering posting something similar.

Big up for doing it.

I guess it is still a bit soon, and we will need to see what the BM considers a constructive post or not.

You are relating the 20 chars & constructive posts as if 20 chars was the max and not he min. You should change your reasoning. It is perfectly possible to be beneficial to a debate or a question by giving a short answer, even if it is unlikely.

My personal opinion is that this will go south very fast.

Edit: They don't have to change their opinion, they just have to thoroughly check the posts. I am not saying that I trust them to do it tho.
They should just increase the payment/post and limit the max post being paid and only accept member that generally post a lot, or just offer a fixed amount/week, with a min posting while chosing big posters.

Recent activity of SteveStake look like encourage spam on the forum (IMO). I had noticed it two weeks ago. However, never mind what is the pay rate, it's depend on them and I don't want to talk about it. I just want to mention how they are encouraging spam. FYI, I had not bothered to apply or I have no problem with them. My intention isn't to tag them or stop them.

I have bothered open this thread because to they have opened another campaign although there is a running campaign and look like they are inviting spammer. Below is their 2 thread;
1. Stake.com - A signature campaign for everyone! Earn up to 0.1 BTC weekly   (Archived)
2. Stake.com Signature Campaign - Up to 0.035 BTC a week   (Archived)

I will quote below those point is encouraging spammer. (Both signature campaign is running)
Old thread:
I think this is the one reason of encourage spam. There should be limit of maximum post like 50 or 100. Is it very easy to make 200 post ? Can we expect quality good post if someone made 200 post ?


So why need encourage spam?

On new thread:
andLook at the bold part, accumulate high post count, he don't need accumulate quality post count.



Answer given by Darkstar, so I don't want to repeat.


They had not uploaded participant list/spreadsheet yet, so we can't check their posting quality.

Most likely SteveStake forgot about merit system where most of managers are requiring even 5 earned merit (especially for btc signature).

Do you think he is doing right? What is your opinion ? Do you think they should reconsider their requirement?