Topic: Stake.com - The Leading Crypto Casino - Drake, UFC, Everton, Alfa Romeo F1 Team - page 130. (Read 277953 times)

First of all, house edge and RTP are not the same thing!
Secondly, I think I have to explain to you why casino has a huge advantage over you in Blackjack. Okay, who is the first that makes decision in blackjack? It's you, dealer is the last one. Who busts the first? You, not the dealer. What happens when you bust first and dealer busts second? You lose money but dealer profits. From two defeated people in blackjack, dealer still wins because dealer is the last one who makes decision. So, why do you expect profit from a game where dealer and casino has a big advantage? Gamble for fun, not for profit. I don't think Stake needs to ruin its reputation for a game that already guarantees a profit.

This is normal for stake.
I don't understand why they do this but every single sports bet, seconds before it gets graded, they show the cashout option for 1-2% less than the original payout, even though the game is finished.

Maybe it's a bug but since this exists forever I doubt it. Maybe it's their way of trying to squeeze their players that don't want to wait until the original grade.
For me this looks a little bit shady and annoyed me for quite a while. But it is what it is I guess.

Does anyone know why this exist? The game is over, and my bet won, but I get an option to cash out lesser amount before the bet gets graded. Nothing malicious, just generally curious.
I have noticed this in a couple of other sportsbooks as well but don't really understand the logic behind that option.

That's a 🔥payer indeed 💰

@ROSHTEINS

https://twitter.com/Stake/status/1725322359941239128

He himself should already by now know that scam casinos, or casinos that are not trusted by the greater number of users of this forum does not survive here for long, at least, he is not a newbie on this forum if actually he Is a newbie in gambling, he should check the  number or partnerships and sponsors Stake has to their name, and ask himself if a scam or untrusted casino can attain such level of achievement.

I personally do not trust online reviews that are outside discussions like we are doing on this forum, as I believe another user here have mention before, many negative reviews on a reputable casinos like stake, is probably from gamblers who have lost big on the casino, and are angry and looking ways or how to get back at the casino for the games they lost, as if it's the casino's fault. 

Open the site and register your account on the platform. Seeing for yourself clearly all the advantages and disadvantages of gambling platforms is better, I think. This platform has been active for a long time and will still survive until tomorrow, perhaps. This means that this gambling platform has good trust from players who have had the experience of spending time playing here.

My question to you is, how many gambling platforms have you played on and which gambling platform do you think is impressive?
From your playing experience, you will be able to feel which platform you think is good.
I'm not reviewing the Stake platform, just guiding you on what you should do with your wishes.
Thank You.

Ok but you just keep ignoring the fact that in blackjack you can win more than even money.

Lets say you play 120 $10 hands of black jack and push 20, win 45 and lose 55.  

With your logic, this would be enough information to conclude that you lost $100.

But of those 45 hands you won, you hit blackjack 5 times.

So for 40 of the hands you profited $400 and 5 of the hands you profited $75.  In total you won $475, and lost $500 so you ended up down $25 instead of the $100 that you calculated.

Ignoring the fact that a blackjack pays 1.5x your bet profit instead of just 1x is just one of several flaws in your logic.   Are you done pretending to be too dumb to understand this yet?

I posted full proof and explanation why the Stake in-house Black Jack system is rigged!

More info HERE

The screenshot is original and I can also upload my Black Jack betting history on Wetransfer and post the link.



I also do not think we should leave people to spread around misinformation and conrtinue to go unchallenged, but with the example of TwitchySeal and other liars and nonsense posters you can see that such a behavior is tolerated here.



With the example of TwitchySeal, who is too stupid to understand basic math and other liars and nonsense posters, you can see that nothing happens and they continue with their lies and nonsense posts!



Absolutely Correct!

Other people who are not as experienced as TwitchySeal and others in lying and nonsense posting started to believe their lies and nonsense and repeated it!

There are even new lies that I am lying!



The reason why misinformation spreads like wildfire on Bitcointalk is because most signature spammers need to place their spam post and do not have the time to carefully read or check the info and proof I have posted.

A statistician could disprove within 15 minutes that I am lying, but this did not happen until today and I inform about the Stake provably rigged in-house Black Jack since 1 year!

Enough time to disprove it, right?

Instead only lies and nonsense posts with TwitchySeal as the leader!



Is a contradictory statement?

First you say you challenge BTC FUD and then you applaud to TwitchySeal who posts a ton of lies and nonsense!

What other reviews about Stake.com are you interested in, or looking for, that you can find on this thread already.?

What do you think there is any other special way of posting a review about a casino that is other or better than the 900+ pages long discussion about Stake.com on this thread? And that have spanned for years.?

If there was any reason to avoid playing on Stake.com, rest assured you will find such reasons here, and if there are reasons to chose Stake.com as your favorite and number one go to casino for all your gambling needs, those reasons you can also find scattered all through the 900+ pages of this thread, you need no other special review anywhere else, be it on this forum, or outside this forum.

But still not everyone knows.

We are getting more and more people who are register & complain to bitcoin talk after they getting scammed, not everyone is a forum geek. There basic research only a google search by review.

You cannot blame them at all for these case.

If you only refer to reviews, then there are many fraudulent casinos that pay people to give high marks to make you believe them, even on some well-known review platforms, I think you will be confused about making a choice.

But at Stake.com there is no doubt and you can see it clearly that we have been here for a long time, reputation etc. has become the main priority which is always well maintained. The large number of signature users also proves to you that here the casino shows a sense of responsibility that Stake.com is reputable.

I do not know why people put so much emphasis on casino reviews? We all know that many of the good reviews that are done on these sites are paid for or bad reviews are coming from competitors or some butt hurt gamblers that does not understand the house edge and claiming that sites are rigged when they lose money. 

There are 900+ pages of discussions about Stake.com in this thread alone.... and the majority of it is not negative attacks or scam reports from the gamblers that are using it. Stake.com has proven that it is one of the leaders in the Crypto currency online gambling scene, so there should not be any doubt about that. 

What kind of positive review that may encourage you to use a gambling platform? Stake has been running for years and has proven themselves as one of the top crypto casinos. Although they had been better (in terms of bonuses) in the first few years but they are still providing good bonuses for active players. If you want to read review, you can visit btcgosu or gamblingbro, 2 review sites that provide honest review and managed by member of this forum.

At this point, I'll really appreciate it if someone would point me in the direction of reviews about Stake platform.

I've stressed, without reserve, the limited number of positive reviews I've gotten about stake (actually, just one positive review) and the others aren't really encouraging me to use the platform. If any, can someone point me in the direction of such reviews within this forum as members of the forum can give me better reviews than outside the forum

Nope.

You didn't lose the same amount in each of the hands you lost.

You didn't win the same amount in each of the hands you won.

You're making calculations as if there are only three potential outcomes in blackjack:  lose your entire wager, push, or profit the amount you wagered (win even money).

This is not the case.  There are many more possible outcomes than these 3.  

Other factors:

You did not wager the exact same amount every single time.
You played games other than blackjack.
You did not play perfect strategy.

BlackyJacky Doesn't even seem to be trolling. Twitchy showing off the class they are, not only explaining once in a clear and thorough answer, but several times. applauded.

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Just ignore this guy, otherwise he keeps spamming.
Nobody can tell me that ALL bets of his shown in the statistics tab are from blackjack, that is NEVER real.
So they numbers he is claiming are also false, and that's why not even necessary to have a discussion about them.

We see these people come and go here. Just keep your business in your scam accusation thread. Spamming here makes more and more people just clicking on the ignore button.

Just complain about this on reddit or the stake forum, there u might find more interest.

Actually, when comes to unsupported accusations of scamming or fraud, I do not think we should leave people to spread around misinformation and continue to go unchallenged, what would happened if someone who does not fully understand the laws of probablities or some basic math started to read things like that and none challenged? There would be matter of time before some of those people who are not as experienced as you or Twitchy seal are started to believe or even repeat things which are not accurate.
I am sure you have personally known cases of misinformation spreading like wildfire when people do not even care to check the statements they share with others. That is the reason I challenge BTC FUD when I can or speak against quacks who profit off the health of other people (who have been convinced their AIDS can be cured with seawater and Tea).
So, even though it is TS' personal choice to reply those posts, I applaud him for taking the time to do so.

TwitchySeal claims that below "Statistics" bets won and lost refer to dealer hands won and lost.

He also gives us the statistic of dealer hands won and lost:

https://i.gyazo.com/32faa13ec0a1e8fb3f020990465e8e0b.png

42,5% of dealer hands are won, 8,5% of dealer hands are push and 49% of dealer hands are lost.

If we reduce the 42,5% of dealer hands won from the 49% of dealer hands lost, that means a player loses 6,5% of the dealer hands.

Here is the proof why TwitchySeal is lying!

If bets won and lost refer to dealer hands won and lost, then I lost 4,6% of the dealer hands.

That would mean I lost 1,9% less dealer hands and experienced a 1,9% player edge (6,5% - 4,6% = 1,9% player edge)

1,9% player edge means that I won 1,9% of the total amount wagered.

1,9% of 9,5 million USD wagered = 180,000 USD profit.

But as I lost around 30,000 USD from my pocket instead of winning 180,000 USD, bets won and lost can not refer to dealer hands won and lost!

You see?

TwitchySeal is too stupid to understand basic math and publicly lies that bets won and lost refers to dealer hands won and lost!

He is also too stupid to understand, that if the advertised house edge is 0,5% and my Stake statistics states that I lost 4,6% of the bets placed, that the Stake in-house Black Jack system must be rigged!