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Quote from: Betwrong on November 14, 2023, 02:57:58 AM

Stake is a regulated site, and the advertised house edge is checked on a regular basis. And it's done through the simulation of tens of millions bets. No one needs your "statistics" based on 180k bets.

This kind of stuff happens all the time with literally every site out there. Losers basically try and come up with all kinds of excuses to try and justify their actions and shift the blame towards the house.

Stake has plenty of issues for sure, but they never blatantly cheat gamblers like 1xbit etc based on my experience with them.

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Quote from: xLays on November 14, 2023, 03:20:28 AM

Can you tell me when was the last time they responded to our concerns regarding their VIP program? I've already contacted Stake support on-site, but they couldn't provide information on the current VIP program.

What is your actual concern about the VIP program of Stake? What kind of changes have you noticed there? You will be able to see all the details about Stake VIP program in this article: Stake VIP Program Overview
You will also get some replies about your concern from the forum members if you ask about it here.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on November 12, 2023, 06:49:17 PM

Quote from: Juggy777 on November 12, 2023, 08:05:53 AM

@BitcoinHunt3r do you think they’ll launch a big event like the last one because they already lost a lot due to the hacking and due to geopolitical problems lot’s has changed hence it’ll be interesting to see which route Stake decides to take. Lastly I’ll be lying if I say I don’t expect a promo heading into December but I won’t be disappointed if they don’t match last year’s event.

As other users have explained, news of the hack was no obstacle but I think this year's celebration will be lower because the budget is diverted to other events/projects so I can't guess for sure how big the event will be, if Stake.com still uses the same scheme as last year I will share tips on the right way to participate sometimes they don't know how to minimize losses in wager hunting but yeah a little luck is also needed. Anyway, next month several events will be waiting for us to celebrate Christmas and New Year and what I'm waiting for is the 2x monthly bonus.

If the budget is an issue and they diverted it to somewhere else, that has something to do with hacking as well. It is clear that they need to make sure they have a lot of money in cold wallets, the 40 million dollars was either in hot wallet, a place that can be hacked easier, and that is the problem, or if not then where the hell was it that all 40 was taken? I mean if they had a hack from the cold wallet that alone is scary.

As a team that lost a bunch to hufflepuff all those years ago, they should be very well aware of the risks of being hacked, that should be dangerous. They had so much money and we ended up with something that was a lot closer and they are probably not doing big deals because of this anymore.

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Quote from: Betwrong on November 14, 2023, 02:57:58 AM

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 08, 2023, 01:20:17 PM

Obviously, such as everybody that plays casino games, you are a losing player, otherwise you would not complain about the house edge .

I am fine with the advertised 0,5% house edge minus rewards.

I complain about this

They say in the trust summary about you that you are ignorant on basic math, and I think it's true. That is your problem. You claim "I lost 4,6% of the bets while the house edge is 0,5%", and you think the site is cheating, while no one told you you should lose 0,5% with your 180k bets. I mean, you could lose much more than 4,6% and you could win 100% or more if you were lucky. 180k bets is too small an amount to come to any conclusions.

Stake is a regulated site, and the advertised house edge is checked on a regular basis. And it's done through the simulation of tens of millions bets. No one needs your "statistics" based on 180k bets.

Actually, 180k bets is quite some sample size for blackjack.
And calling stake a "regulated" site also doesn't really mean anything since.

I will quote someone from this thread who actually made a good point.
This is the thread: https://stakecommunity.com/topic/81675-rigged-beyond-a-doubt/

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Provably fair - a system for verification of bets developed by the same IT team that works on Stake. How very convenient 🤔

In addition, provably fair “works” only on about 10 Stake Originals, does not work on 10,000 other games on the site.

On top of that all Stake is verified by CGF - Crypto Gambling Foundation. They have their certificate. How convenient, once again, that the same Crypto Gambling Foundation was started by no other then Edward himself - owner of Stake.

Not saying that OP is right but saying that stake can't be trusted blindly when very often the math in the casino games doesn't add up. I played blackjack there for a while as well, with terrible results. Losing 10 hands in a row is a common occurance while I never, and I mean NEVER, won so many hands in a row. My best is 5 or 6, that's it. My record of losing hands in a row is 15, you can calculate the odds of that happening yourself. I once started 0:11. They are trying to get you right from the start so you can't even recover.

But anyway, I am gone now from stake. Casino is for degens anyway, there is no edge to be found.

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I think Stake.com doesn't care about who is posting here on BitcoinTalk. Can you tell me when was the last time they responded to our concerns regarding their VIP program? I've already contacted Stake support on-site, but they couldn't provide information on the current VIP program. Here's the reply I received about my concern regarding the VIP program at Stake:

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Me: Is there some changes about the VIP program?
Nemanja Stake: Unfortunately, that is solely handled on the side of our Marketing team and we do not have any further insight into that.
Me: Then connect me to them.
NemanjaJ Stake: Unfortunately, you can only talk to a support here and you cannot reach out to them.

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Quote from: BlackyJacky on November 08, 2023, 02:31:45 PM

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 08, 2023, 01:20:17 PM

Obviously, such as everybody that plays casino games, you are a losing player, otherwise you would not complain about the house edge .

I am fine with the advertised 0,5% house edge minus rewards.

I complain about this

They say in the trust summary about you that you are ignorant on basic math, and I think it's true. That is your problem. You claim "I lost 4,6% of the bets while the house edge is 0,5%", and you think the site is cheating, while no one told you you should lose 0,5% with your 180k bets. I mean, you could lose much more than 4,6% and you could win 100% or more if you were lucky. 180k bets is too small an amount to come to any conclusions.

Stake is a regulated site, and the advertised house edge is checked on a regular basis. And it's done through the simulation of tens of millions bets. No one needs your "statistics" based on 180k bets.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 13, 2023, 04:01:05 PM

-snip-

Thank you, just claim for these month.

Fun-fact, I don't betting anything during these month. I got the base reward from monthly (10$), wish me luck from 10$ to cashout at least 300$ ~XD. That's would be nice, even people know.

Never betting during bonus being shared, but f*cked it just betting these ~XD.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on November 12, 2023, 08:05:53 AM

@BitcoinHunt3r do you think they’ll launch a big event like the last one because they already lost a lot due to the hacking and due to geopolitical problems lot’s has changed hence it’ll be interesting to see which route Stake decides to take. Lastly I’ll be lying if I say I don’t expect a promo heading into December but I won’t be disappointed if they don’t match last year’s event.

Stake have move on with the hack incident and i believe by now stake have recovered from that already and will not let that affet any possible promotions for the holiday season coming up, and i believe that we will ve seeing new promotion that will go along with the season from stake, i dont have stake account, but rhen i may likely try the casino out if i am given some free bonuse to try with.

Stake still remain one of the popular casinos around that many of us will like to try out our luck if given some free chances in for of special promos.

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Monthly is just around the corner.

But be careful, seem like fake monthly mails are making the rounds, even though they are very amateurish made. Grin

You can see it here: https://stakecommunity.com/topic/81732-becarful-fake-email-monthly/#comment-1814433

Since now we have the 14th it's been over 30 days since the last monthly. There is a good chance it will come today or more likely in the next 1-2 days. At least I hope so.

Edit: And the real one is out: https://playstake.info/bonus?code=novembermonthlybonusv2lop09asfht

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Quote from: dimonstration on November 13, 2023, 10:42:52 AM

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Yes, because sometimes side-bet is a sucker bet.

Also, hitting trip is not really regulary. I more prefer reduce the side-bet, and allowed double after split. These feature only on certain casino, and If casino want these they can easily request to EVO.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on November 12, 2023, 05:53:27 PM

I been watching BJ video recently.

As you know, (Evolution-Games) cannot do a double after a split or split more. I seen on some video, seem like now (Evolution) offering a system can double after split however the sidebet multiplier will be reduce.

I think, would be nice if (Stake) can provided these. That's will be really good.

I just play evolution gaming now but I didn’t notice the double down after splitting pair. I think this feature varies per casino since I remember some casino doesn’t offer side bet before while others have on the same evolution gaming which means they can customize the live games they will offer.

Double after split is indeed a good feature. I only experienced this feature on some house game blackjack of other casino.

I notice too that Stake table only limit user to 1 seat at a time which is annoying to me because I often use multiple seat when increasing my bet instead of increasing bet on a single seat to have a better chance to get BJ and Breakeven when have a bad hand.

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Quote from: dimonstration on November 10, 2023, 09:52:56 AM

Quote from: BlackyJacky on November 09, 2023, 12:05:30 PM

If you use a VPN from a restricted area, you can not login.

When you use a VPN, you logically do not show your "real" IP!

Therefore, what you say does not make any sense at all!

You can login because you are already using different IP which casino allowed. This is the real use of VPN on casino by hiding your real IP and use different country so that you can play as different nationality.

This is a case to case basis depending on the ToS of the casino about VPN.IIRC Stake have a mirror link so that restricted customers can access the casino without the use of VPN.

Yes, but AHOYBRAUSE asked me if I once made a mistake showing my "real" IP while logging in from a restricted country.

See below:

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 09, 2023, 12:20:37 AM

Quote from: BlackyJacky on November 08, 2023, 02:31:45 PM

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 08, 2023, 01:20:17 PM

Or did you once maybe make a mistake, showing your "real" IP while logging in and you are from a restricted area and therefor don't want to make KYC because if jeopardies your account and it's VIP perks? No accusation, just a possibility.

You can not login if you visit the website from a restricted area.

It's called VPN, and you know it.
Well, I have realised it's a total waste of time answering you since you seem to be in your own world.

And still you didn't answer what exactly they told you.

They didn't just say you are not allowed to deposit before you do KYC, they must have given you a reason. So what you are saying here is total nonsense. You clearly have something to hide and only tell half the story.

Anyway, since you don't care to answer questions and still make you monster spam replies it's time to set you on mute. Everybody should do the same.

I explained to him that it is technically not possible to login from a restricted country and now he lies that Stake didn't just say I am not allowed to deposit before I do KYC.

But Stake support exactly said this.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on November 12, 2023, 08:05:53 AM

@BitcoinHunt3r do you think they’ll launch a big event like the last one because they already lost a lot due to the hacking and due to geopolitical problems lot’s has changed hence it’ll be interesting to see which route Stake decides to take. Lastly I’ll be lying if I say I don’t expect a promo heading into December but I won’t be disappointed if they don’t match last year’s event.

As other users have explained, news of the hack was no obstacle but I think this year's celebration will be lower because the budget is diverted to other events/projects so I can't guess for sure how big the event will be, if Stake.com still uses the same scheme as last year I will share tips on the right way to participate sometimes they don't know how to minimize losses in wager hunting but yeah a little luck is also needed. Anyway, next month several events will be waiting for us to celebrate Christmas and New Year and what I'm waiting for is the 2x monthly bonus.

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Quote from: babygun on November 12, 2023, 01:48:41 PM

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 12, 2023, 08:47:53 AM

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I agree, I have never really been impressed with Stake his promotions for Christmas. To claim some bonuses, the wager is pretty high (so not for small gamblers). Before, Stake used to have some interesting sports promotions (like triple winnings on some UFC fights) but seems like that those days are long over also.

Bonus codes required 10k wager most of the time in Stake, I dont think it is a high requirement and it is not that hard to wager 10k even for small players including myself. Talking about "interesting promotion", I think it is subjective because a promotion can be interesting for you but not for me, while other promotion can be interesting for me but not for you. For me claiming codes during specific event like Christmas with 10k wager is more interesting than triple winning on sports. Of course we have our own preferences and I'm sure there are so many different preferences if we are talking about promotion. This is why no casino will be able to satisfy all players at the same time when it comes to promotions.

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I been watching BJ video recently.

As you know, (Evolution-Games) cannot do a double after a split or split more. I seen on some video, seem like now (Evolution) offering a system can double after split however the sidebet multiplier will be reduce.

I think, would be nice if (Stake) can provided these. That's will be really good.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 12, 2023, 08:47:53 AM

First of all, those losses because of the hack have been recovered in less than 1 week. So that's not an issue.
Second, the bonus drops are costing them 0 money, they make money with the.

10k in wager with a 1% house edge means people will lose at least 100$ to get those 10k wager, and thats the bare minimum. Most people lose MUCH more.
So the drops pay for themselves.

The rest of the christmas promo is mostly bs. Some twitter winners (almost always the same "winners", most likely family and friends), some challenge winners, the regular monthly ( maybe 2 ) which also pays for itself because of house edge and that's basically it. Everything is funded by wager, they don't lose/invest 1 cent in the promo because people are stupid enough to wager a lot to got some small $ back.

It only looks good on the outside but the actual reward is basically nothing. You you can a bare minimum of your losses back.

I agree, I have never really been impressed with Stake his promotions for Christmas. To claim some bonuses, the wager is pretty high (so not for small gamblers). Before, Stake used to have some interesting sports promotions (like triple winnings on some UFC fights) but seems like that those days are long over also.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on November 12, 2023, 08:05:53 AM

Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on November 12, 2023, 01:18:11 AM

Quote from: dimonstration on November 11, 2023, 10:32:26 AM

Thanks mate. This is what I fear the most when I inquire this question. I guess I will stop playing for a while since it’s such a waste to accumulate wager without having the weekly reload even though I slowly level up my VIP.

I saw many user discussed about Stake big promotion for Christmas. Is this some kind of bonus same with weekly reload that focus in wager volume to get reward or a raffle type promotion that use tickets?

Last year Stake provided a big promotion for Christmas but of course a weekly wager was required, as far as I remember the total bonuses distributed reached $50-100 million and we can claim bonus codes every day from $15 to $60 per day this promotion runs from December 1 to December 25, while for this year's celebration we haven't heard how they did it whether in the same way or in a new way but I think the budget will be lower than last year maybe less than $10 Million, this is based on the lower bonuses we have received recently.

Just for your information, to participate in the daily bonus code we usually need to wager $5k-10k in a week and every day it will increase upto $500-$1000, on the last day the total wager required was $15k-$16k as far as I remember. If you ask whether we make a profit, yes, of course, but not too much but we get other benefits, for example the VIP level increases rapidly and the weekly/monthly bonus also increases. By the way, there is also another event, basically there is a challenge for 25 days.

@BitcoinHunt3r do you think they’ll launch a big event like the last one because they already lost a lot due to the hacking and due to geopolitical problems lot’s has changed hence it’ll be interesting to see which route Stake decides to take. Lastly I’ll be lying if I say I don’t expect a promo heading into December but I won’t be disappointed if they don’t match last year’s event.

First of all, those losses because of the hack have been recovered in less than 1 week. So that's not an issue.
Second, the bonus drops are costing them 0 money, they make money with the.

10k in wager with a 1% house edge means people will lose at least 100$ to get those 10k wager, and thats the bare minimum. Most people lose MUCH more.
So the drops pay for themselves.

The rest of the christmas promo is mostly bs. Some twitter winners (almost always the same "winners", most likely family and friends), some challenge winners, the regular monthly ( maybe 2 ) which also pays for itself because of house edge and that's basically it. Everything is funded by wager, they don't lose/invest 1 cent in the promo because people are stupid enough to wager a lot to got some small $ back.

It only looks good on the outside but the actual reward is basically nothing. You you can a bare minimum of your losses back.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on November 12, 2023, 01:18:11 AM

Quote from: dimonstration on November 11, 2023, 10:32:26 AM

Thanks mate. This is what I fear the most when I inquire this question. I guess I will stop playing for a while since it’s such a waste to accumulate wager without having the weekly reload even though I slowly level up my VIP.

I saw many user discussed about Stake big promotion for Christmas. Is this some kind of bonus same with weekly reload that focus in wager volume to get reward or a raffle type promotion that use tickets?

Last year Stake provided a big promotion for Christmas but of course a weekly wager was required, as far as I remember the total bonuses distributed reached $50-100 million and we can claim bonus codes every day from $15 to $60 per day this promotion runs from December 1 to December 25, while for this year's celebration we haven't heard how they did it whether in the same way or in a new way but I think the budget will be lower than last year maybe less than $10 Million, this is based on the lower bonuses we have received recently.

Just for your information, to participate in the daily bonus code we usually need to wager $5k-10k in a week and every day it will increase upto $500-$1000, on the last day the total wager required was $15k-$16k as far as I remember. If you ask whether we make a profit, yes, of course, but not too much but we get other benefits, for example the VIP level increases rapidly and the weekly/monthly bonus also increases. By the way, there is also another event, basically there is a challenge for 25 days.

@BitcoinHunt3r do you think they’ll launch a big event like the last one because they already lost a lot due to the hacking and due to geopolitical problems lot’s has changed hence it’ll be interesting to see which route Stake decides to take. Lastly I’ll be lying if I say I don’t expect a promo heading into December but I won’t be disappointed if they don’t match last year’s event.

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