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legendary
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Some question guys.

I really love watching QuickTM for playing original-game from Stake. I have some plan for playing (Slide), do we have some third-parties website who can track the result daily like (Highest) after how many spin? something like (TrackCasino) who can track the game from Evolution Live-Games (CT, Monopoly and other).

Thanks.
newbie
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Or did you once maybe make a mistake, showing your "real" IP while logging in and you are from a restricted area and therefor don't want to make KYC because if jeopardies your account and it's VIP perks? No accusation, just a possibility.

You can not login if you visit the website from a restricted area.

It's called VPN, and you know it.

If you use a VPN from a restricted area, you can not login.

When you use a VPN, you logically do not show your "real" IP!

Therefore, what you say does not make any sense at all!
hero member
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Or did you once maybe make a mistake, showing your "real" IP while logging in and you are from a restricted area and therefor don't want to make KYC because if jeopardies your account and it's VIP perks? No accusation, just a possibility.

You can not login if you visit the website from a restricted area.

It's called VPN, and you know it.
Well, I have realised it's a total waste of time answering you since you seem to be in your own world.

And still you didn't answer what exactly they told you.

They didn't just say you are not allowed to deposit before you do KYC, they must have given you a reason. So what you are saying here is total nonsense. You clearly have something to hide and only tell half the story.

Anyway, since you don't care to answer questions and still make you monster spam replies it's time to set you on mute. Everybody should do the same.
legendary
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Yes, I cry how it is rigged until I get the 30,000 USD back Bijan, Edward and Mladen have illegally taken from me.

They didn't take it from you, you lost it.  

I lost it from my pocket and they found it?  Cheesy

Yes, I lost it because of their provably rigged in-house Black Jack system, but first they took my Bitcoin.


And you ran on the good side of variance and got some generous bonuses considering you only lost $30k after wagering over $9 million.  

If losing 4,6% of the bets instead of the advertised 0,5% is "ran on the good side of variance", how much % is running on the bad side of variance?

15%? 20%?

Your math is idiotic and your explanation doesn't make sense. Blackjack isn't the same as flipping a coin.  Sometimes you win even money, sometimes you push, sometimes you're paid 3:2. 

If you're playing a game with a 0.5% house edge, that means over the long run you can expect to lose
50 cents for every $100 wagered.

If you wager $50,000 your expected losses would be $250

If you wager $200,000 your expected losses would be $1,000

If you wager $8,019,299.22 (in crypto at todays value),

your expected losses would be $40,096.50





Whatever calculation you made that resulted in you thinking you would profit over $100k was wrong.
Being down $30k with this much wagered is well within the range of possible outcomes.

You lost, get over it.



newbie
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Yes, I cry how it is rigged until I get the 30,000 USD back Bijan, Edward and Mladen have illegally taken from me.

They didn't take it from you, you lost it.  

I lost it from my pocket and they found it?  Cheesy

Yes, I lost it because of their provably rigged in-house Black Jack system, but first they took my Bitcoin.


And you ran on the good side of variance and got some generous bonuses considering you only lost $30k after wagering over $9 million.  

If losing 4,6% of the bets instead of the advertised 0,5% is "ran on the good side of variance", how much % is running on the bad side of variance?

Losing 10 or 15% of the bets?


You see, when the house has an edge, it means you don't.  

If you would have read my posts, you should have realised that a 0,5% house edge minus rewards is fine for me:

I am fine with the advertised 0,5% house edge minus rewards.

I complain about this


That means in the long run you will lose.

But only the advertised 0,5% bets and not 4,6% of the bets, right?


The more you wager, the more you will lose.

But only the advertised 0,5% bets and not 4,6% of the bets, right?
legendary
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He also doesn't realize it.

Card counter with fewer decks comparing evolution-games (8 decks), while they play with few decks like 3+ and still losing a thousand dollar: https://www.youtube.com/@stevenbridges ~XD

It's actually funny, I guess (Card-counter) will say the BJ-game (especially while they playing live on landbase) are rigged. Because my count is right.
legendary
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Yes, I cry how it is rigged until I get the 30,000 USD back Bijan, Edward and Mladen have illegally taken from me.

They didn't take it from you, you lost it.  And you ran on the good side of variance and got some generous bonuses considering you only lost $30k after wagering over $9 million. 

You see, when the house has an edge, it means you don't.  That means in the long run you will lose.  The more you wager, the more you will lose.

So stop crying.
newbie
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I will go after Bijan, Edward and Mladen until I have at least the 30,000 USD back I unjustifiably lost from my pocket.

So this guy did some math that only makes sense in his imagination and concluded that black jack on stake is a profitable game, and since he lost 30k after wagering ~9 million it must be rigged...

It is rigged, because

Info 1)

If you take a look at my statistics here https://ibb.co/Hxf8NpR you can see the following total numbers:

Bets: 180,904

Wins: 78,285

Losses: 86,612

If we reduce the number of wins from the number of losses, we can see that I lost 8,327 bets (86,612 minus 78,285 = 8,327)

Losing 8,327 bets out of 180,904 bets placed = 4,6% of the bets lost.


Info 2)

The advertised house edge for the Stake in-house Black Jack is 0,5%, which means longterm I will lose 0,5% of all bets placed.

Losing 0,5% out of 180,904 bets placed = 900 bets lost.

If you compare Info 1) with Info 2), you can see that I lost 8,327 bets instead of the 900 bets I should lose = 9 times more!

While there is a deviation from the expected outcome, it can not be 9 times more after 180,904 bets!


Info 3)

When the house edge is 0,5% and you placed 180,900 bets, you will lose 900 bets and the remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips.

The remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips, because they are neutral and you will win 50% = 90,000 bets and lose 50% = 90,000 bets.

4,6% of the bets lost while I should lose only 0,5% means my experienced deviation of the 180,000 coin flips is 4,1%!


Now let's take a look at the standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips:

A) Standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 212 coin flips = 0,12% (In 68% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0,12%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 34 times higher than the standard deviation (4,1% : 0,12% = 34)


B) 3 times standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 0,36% (In 99,7% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0.36%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 11 times higher than the 3 times standard deviation (4,1% : 0,36% = 11)

 
Info 4)

The Stake bet transaction history only states 180,000 single bet events and no overview of my experienced house edge.

To get my experienced house edge from the bet transaction history, I would need to take a look at all 180,000 bets and calculate it manually!

If the cards were dealt fair and I lost only 0,5% of all bets placed while the statistics states that I lost 4,6%, then the Stake statistics is rigged!

In either case, the Stake in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged and Stake has to compensate at least the 30,000 USD I lost from my pocket.

Their strategy to ignore me, while they are clearly at fault, will fail!  Wink


But as I lost around 30,000 USD from my pocket instead of winning 180,000 USD, bets won and lost can not refer to dealer hands won and lost!

Interesting line to cry about how rigged the site is and at the same time cry about not being able to deposit and gamble at the same time.

Yes, I cry how it is rigged until I get the 30,000 USD back Bijan, Edward and Mladen have illegally taken from me.

Thereafter, they can do whatever they like and I do not care at all, as long as I am not a victim of it.

No, I never cried that I am not able to deposit and play, as you can see below

In my case for example, they blocked me from depositing after I have cleared 90% of the next VIP level which gives a 6,400 USD bonus.

They can of course decide at any time that they do not want me anymore as their customer, but in this case they have to compensate the 90% of 6,400 USD = 5,760 USD I have already cleared.

I do not mind at all if Stake does not want to take my Bitcoin anymore, other casinos will gladly do, but they have to give me 5,760 USD for the 90% I have already cleared.

Well, have someone send you funds via tip if you can't deposit yourself.

Once a casino breaches our agreement and unjustifiably blocks me from depositing, I will not deposit anymore because they also unjustifiably could block me from withdrawing.

In fact, I do not care at all!

I only care about the compensation which I will receive sooner or later, as there is no way Bijan, Edward and Mladen can escape from responsibility.  Smiley

Only a dumbass can believe he offers a provably rigged in-house game and everything is fine!  Wink
legendary
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I will go after Bijan, Edward and Mladen until I have at least the 30,000 USD back I unjustifiably lost from my pocket.

So this guy did some math that only makes sense in his imagination and concluded that black jack on stake is a profitable game, and since he lost 30k after wagering ~9 million it must be rigged...


But as I lost around 30,000 USD from my pocket instead of winning 180,000 USD, bets won and lost can not refer to dealer hands won and lost!

Interesting line to cry about how rigged the site is and at the same time cry about not being able to deposit and gamble at the same time.
newbie
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One other thing, and please no more monster replies that congest this thread.

What explanation did you receive that denies you to deposit and basically play at stake. They must have said something and give you a reason.

My deposit option is blocked until I do level two verification.


Obviously, such as everybody that plays casino games, you are a losing player, otherwise you would not complain about the house edge .

I am fine with the advertised 0,5% house edge minus rewards.

I complain about this


If you were winning and they want to get rid of you I would understand, been through that at countless sites actually.
But since you don't win a lot, wouldn't they want you to stick around?

They want to get rid of me because I complain about this

Though their shady behavior caused exactly the opposite!  Cheesy

I will go after Bijan, Edward and Mladen until I have at least the 30,000 USD back I unjustifiably lost from my pocket.


Or did you once maybe make a mistake, showing your "real" IP while logging in and you are from a restricted area and therefor don't want to make KYC because if jeopardies your account and it's VIP perks? No accusation, just a possibility.

You can not login if you visit the website from a restricted area.
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legendary
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IMO, It's better not respond to the shit post.

I mean, you give him a spot chance to him for speak more and post a shit things. He are gonna to keep posting, the best way just ignore it the post and he keep posting by him self.

After that he will tried, and not gonna to post. I'ts hapening all the time.
hero member
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One other thing, and please no more monster replies that congest this thread.

What explanation did you receive that denies you to deposit and basically play at stake. They must have said something and give you a reason.
Obviously, such as everybody that plays casino games, you are a losing player, otherwise you would not complain about the house edge .
If you were winning and they want to get rid of you I would understand, been through that at countless sites actually.
But since you don't win a lot, wouldn't they want you to stick around?
Or did you once maybe make a mistake, showing your "real" IP while logging in and you are from a restricted area and therefor don't want to make KYC because it jeopardises your account and its VIP perks? No accusation, just a possibility.



It is quite unfortunate that some casinos will exit a player simply because they feel that the player is winning too much on the gambling site, such operational manner because such character exhibition will cause the casino to lose the loyalty and trust of the gambling community at some point, let say we have a few of those scammy site and such we have to avoid such possibility because stake.com is one of the many reputable casinos that we have in the gambling industry today.


But much more also, we have to know that there have not been so many of those cases against stake before and anyone putting up such accusations should be ready to back the claims up with some evidence.
hero member
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One other thing, and please no more monster replies that congest this thread.

What explanation did you receive that denies you to deposit and basically play at stake. They must have said something and give you a reason.
Obviously, such as everybody that plays casino games, you are a losing player, otherwise you would not complain about the house edge .
If you were winning and they want to get rid of you I would understand, been through that at countless sites actually.
But since you don't win a lot, wouldn't they want you to stick around?
Or did you once maybe make a mistake, showing your "real" IP while logging in and you are from a restricted area and therefor don't want to make KYC because if jeopardies your account and it's VIP perks? No accusation, just a possibility.


newbie
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In my case for example, they blocked me from depositing after I have cleared 90% of the next VIP level which gives a 6,400 USD bonus.

They can of course decide at any time that they do not want me anymore as their customer, but in this case they have to compensate the 90% of 6,400 USD = 5,760 USD I have already cleared.

I do not mind at all if Stake does not want to take my Bitcoin anymore, other casinos will gladly do, but they have to give me 5,760 USD for the 90% I have already cleared.

Well, have someone send you funds via tip if you can't deposit yourself.

Once a casino breaches our agreement and unjustifiably blocks me from depositing, I will not deposit anymore because they also unjustifiably could block me from withdrawing.


Of course this only would work if you are not blocked from betting.

As explained above, even if I am not blocked from betting, they could block me from withdrawing.


On the other hand, why would you want to make bets if the casino is a scam. It's a lose lose situation.

No, it is a win win situation:

1) I need to wager 500,000 USD to reach the next nevel and receive a 6,400 USD bonus.

Stake claims that their in-house Black Jack has a 0,5% house edge when using the optimal playing strategy.

0,5% house edge minus around 0,3% rewards = 0,2% of 500,000 USD = 1,000 USD loss plus 6,400 USD next level bonus = 5,400 USD plus

2) I get hard proof of my experienced house edge during wagering the 500,000 USD

Based on the bets transaction history in my Stake account I can not see what my experienced house edge is.

The only way I could see it is to take a look at all 180,000 bets and calculate my experienced house edge!


About the missing 10%, that are still 500k$ in wager. Taking an "only" 1% house edge in consideration ( obviously it's more ) you will lose over 5k playing while getting the missing 10%. So it doesn't really make sense to chase it yet anyway.

See above.


And since there are no "milestones" within the 100% it's impossible to claim 90% of the reward. If they would do that once everybody who is broke at some point wants to do it. It's designed to keep you playing and depositing, "only" some % to go, wager wager wager.  Roll Eyes

Maybe you missed something, but I do not demand to pay the already cleared 90% of 6,400 USD because I am broke.

I demand to pay the already cleared 5,760 USD because they unjustifiably block me from depositing and clearing the remaining 10%.
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In my case for example, they blocked me from depositing after I have cleared 90% of the next VIP level which gives a 6,400 USD bonus.

They can of course decide at any time that they do not want me anymore as their customer, but in this case they have to compensate the 90% of 6,400 USD = 5,760 USD I have already cleared.

I do not mind at all if Stake does not want to take my Bitcoin anymore, other casinos will gladly do, but they have to give me 5,760 USD for the 90% I have already cleared.

Well, have someone send you funds via tip if you can't deposit yourself.
Of course this only would work if you are not blocked from betting.

On the other hand, why would you want to make bets if the casino is a scam. It's a lose lose situation.

About the missing 10%, that are still 500k$ in wager. Taking an "only" 1% house edge in consideration ( obviously it's more ) you will lose over 5k playing while getting the missing 10%. So it doesn't really make sense to chase it yet anyway.

And since there are no "milestones" within the 100% it's impossible to claim 90% of the reward. If they would do that once everybody who is broke at some point wants to do it. It's designed to keep you playing and depositing, "only" some % to go, wager wager wager.  Roll Eyes
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Did anyone else receive an email from Stake that level two verification is not compulsory?

You again....  Roll Eyes

They can ask for KYC whenever they went, email or no email.
It's written in their terms, so no need to complain again.

Unless you have something to I don't know what would be the problem providing KYC.

They said a lot in the past like " once you got it, you will keep your VIP " , "we will never ask for KYC", blablabla. A lot has changed at stake in the past year.


The guy is just an idiot.  

A player wins 42-43% of hands in black jack but he thinks it's slightly less than 50% of hands, like it's the same as a coin toss minus house edge.  I've done the math for him, and showed him plenty of links, but he insists Stake is rigged because he doesn't win as often as his fantasy math says he should.

Can't blame any casino for ignoring him after he repeats the same stupid thing the first 10 times.

And lol at thinking a casino should pay pro-rated loyalty rewards to a lunatic bc he won't verify.

TwitchySeal already informed us in the other thread that he is too stupid to understand the difference between bets won and dealer hands won!

Now he repeats the same nonsense that a player wins 42-43% of dealer hands in Black Jack!

Yes, a player wins 42-43% of dealer hands in Black Jack, but the nonsense is that this circumstance is not related to my case as I speak about bets and not dealer hands!

2) I posted proof how Stake scammed me:

PROOF OF THE SCAM

Info 1)

If you take a look at my statistics here https://ibb.co/Hxf8NpR you can see the following total numbers:

Bets: 180,904

Wins: 78,285

Losses: 86,612

If we reduce the number of wins from the number of losses, we can see that I lost 8,327 bets (86,612 minus 78,285 = 8,327)

Losing 8,327 bets out of 180,904 bets placed = 4,6% of the bets lost.


Info 2)

The advertised house edge for the Stake in-house Black Jack is 0,5%, which means longterm I will lose 0,5% of all bets placed.

Losing 0,5% out of 180,904 bets placed = 900 bets lost.

If you compare Info 1) with Info 2), you can see that I lost 8,327 bets instead of the 900 bets I should lose = 9 times more!

While there is a deviation from the expected outcome, it can not be 9 times more after 180,904 bets!


Info 3)

When the house edge is 0,5% and you placed 180,900 bets, you will lose 900 bets and the remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips.

The remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips, because they are neutral and you will win 50% = 90,000 bets and lose 50% = 90,000 bets.

4,6% of the bets lost while I should lose only 0,5% means my experienced deviation of the 180,000 coin flips is 4,1%!


Now let's take a look at the standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips:

A) Standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 212 coin flips = 0,12% (In 68% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0,12%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 34 times higher than the standard deviation (4,1% : 0,12% = 34)


B) 3 times standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 0,36% (In 99,7% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0.36%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 11 times higher than the 3 times standard deviation (4,1% : 0,36% = 11)

 
Info 4)

The Stake bet transaction history only states 180,000 single bet events and no overview of my experienced house edge.

To get my experienced house edge from the bet transaction history, I would need to take a look at all 180,000 bets and calculate it manually!

If the cards were dealt fair and I lost only 0,5% of all bets placed while the statistics states that I lost 4,6%, then the Stake statistics is rigged!

In either case, the Stake in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged and Stake has to compensate at least the 30,000 USD I lost from my pocket.

Their strategy to ignore me, while they are clearly at fault, will fail!  Wink

This is not proof of scam.  It's really just proof that either you don't understand very basic math concepts or you don't want to learn very basic math concepts because you understand they will disprove your entire argument.  

When you play one round of black jack, which is what the stats refer to as a "bet", these are the probabilities  for each of the three possible outcomes:

https://i.gyazo.com/32faa13ec0a1e8fb3f020990465e8e0b.png
(they will vary slightly depending on the rules being used)

As you can see, you are significantly more likely to lose than to win.  This is due to two factors:

A) The house edge
B) Your average win is slightly more than your average loss since blackjack pay out 3-2, not even money.

B is the one you keep ignoring.  Stop ignoring it.  Better odds when you win = you will win less often.
legendary
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Imagine, talking shit on the same casino while he think bad for him.

The shit things, he still playing or access the things he think is shit ~XD It's just a same like, you falling into the hole and know the exact location of the hole but still falling into the same hole ~LOL

I blieve, If not wrong he also want to report or make allegation case court. Still waiting until now ~XD.
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Did anyone else receive an email from Stake that level two verification is not compulsory?

You again....  Roll Eyes

They can ask for KYC whenever they went, email or no email.
It's written in their terms, so no need to complain again.

Unless you have something to I don't know what would be the problem providing KYC.

They said a lot in the past like " once you got it, you will keep your VIP " , "we will never ask for KYC", blablabla. A lot has changed at stake in the past year.


The guy is just an idiot.  

A player wins 42-43% of hands in black jack but he thinks it's slightly less than 50% of hands, like it's the same as a coin toss minus house edge.  I've done the math for him, and showed him plenty of links, but he insists Stake is rigged because he doesn't win as often as his fantasy math says he should.

Can't blame any casino for ignoring him after he repeats the same stupid thing the first 10 times.

And lol at thinking a casino should pay pro-rated loyalty rewards to a lunatic bc he won't verify.
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