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Your math isn't perfect.  It's wrong.

You didn't lose 4.6% of the bets.



86,612 is 47.88% of 180,904

So, you lost 47.88% of your "bets".  But that's irrelevant. You can't use these numbers to calculate your roi, we don't have the stats required.

You don't win even money every time you win.

Black jack is not the same as flipping a coin.

Sometimes your bet is raised, sometimes you win less than even money, sometimes you win more than even money.  It's not a coin flip.  You also have to play perfect strategy, which you clearly don't have the mental capacity to do.  I'm wasting my time now.  Seek help.

If you want to know your return, as in the % of the wager that you won or lost, which is what the house edge represents, the only numbers you need are total wagered and total won.

My math is perfect and Stake did not disprove it!

Info 1)

If you take a look at my statistics here https://ibb.co/Hxf8NpR you can see the following total numbers:

Bets: 180,904

Wins: 78,285

Losses: 86,612

If we reduce the number of wins from the number of losses, we can see that I lost 8,327 bets (86,612 minus 78,285 = 8,327)

Losing 8,327 bets out of 180,904 bets placed = 4,6% of the bets lost.


Info 2)

The advertised house edge for the Stake in-house Black Jack is 0,5%, which means longterm I will lose 0,5% of all bets placed.

Losing 0,5% out of 180,904 bets placed = 900 bets lost.

If you compare Info 1) with Info 2), you can see that I lost 8,327 bets instead of the 900 bets I should lose = 9 times more!

While there is a deviation from the expected outcome, it can not be 9 times more after 180,904 bets!


Info 3)

When the house edge is 0,5% and you placed 180,900 bets, you will lose 900 bets and the remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips.

The remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips, because they are neutral and you will win 50% = 90,000 bets and lose 50% = 90,000 bets.

4,6% of the bets lost while I should lose only 0,5% means my experienced deviation of the 180,000 coin flips is 4,1%!


Now let's take a look at the standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips:

A) Standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 212 coin flips = 0,12% (In 68% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0,12%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 34 times higher than the standard deviation (4,1% : 0,12% = 34)


B) 3 times standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 0,36% (In 99,7% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0.36%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 11 times higher than the 3 times standard deviation (4,1% : 0,36% = 11)

 
Info 4)

The Stake bet transaction history only states 180,000 single bet events and no overview of my experienced house edge.

To get my experienced house edge from the bet transaction history, I would need to take a look at all 180,000 bets and calculate it manually!

If the cards were dealt fair and I lost only 0,5% of all bets placed while the statistics states that I lost 4,6%, then the Stake statistics is rigged!

In either case, the Stake in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged and Stake has to compensate at least the 30,000 USD I lost from my pocket.

Their strategy to ignore me, while they are clearly at fault, will fail!  

They're ignoring you because you are a lunatic.  If you were to take the same math test as a 12 year old with a mild learning disability, it would be close, but I'd bet on the 12 year old getting a higher score.  I'm dead serious.  It's like someone thought it would be funny when you were a kid to teach you a completely wrong way to do math.  What a cruel joke.

Who says this? Statisticians?

Oh wait, only TwitchySeal who has proven that he is too stupid to understand basic math says this!



My problem is that I unjustifiably lost Bitcoin worth around 30,000 USD at their provably rigged in-house Black Jack system and want it back, but they ignore!

Please note that as soon as I received the Bitcoin worth around 30,000 USD, I will move on and do not care at all what Bijan, Edward and Mladen do or if Stake is rigged or not or if they are regulated or not.



I have posted the proof that the Stake in-house Black Jack system is rigged!

In case you missed it, the proof is HERE



No, after 180k bets it is statistically not possible to lose 4,6% while the advertised house edge is 0,5%

 

Stake is regulated by who and how?

You suggest that their regulator checks the advertised house edge of Stake's in-house Black Jack?



Where is the simulation of tens of millions bets of Stake's in-house Black Jack?

Did you know that the software of a casino game can be modified at any time?



But my "statistics" after 180k bets exactly proves that the Stake in-house Black Jack system is rigged!

If the cards were dealt fair, what Stake so far failed to prove, then their statistics must be rigged.

In either case, they at least have to compensate what I lost.



I try to get a response in the Crypto Gambling Foundation -  Fair Gambling For All thread since 1 year and nothing!

The Crypto Gambling Foundation is not reachable since years!

This kind of stuff happens all the time with literally every site out there. Losers basically try and come up with all kinds of excuses to try and justify their actions and shift the blame towards the house.

Stake has plenty of issues for sure, but they never blatantly cheat gamblers like 1xbit etc based on my experience with them.

What is your actual concern about the VIP program of Stake? What kind of changes have you noticed there? You will be able to see all the details about Stake VIP program in this article: Stake VIP Program Overview
You will also get some replies about your concern from the forum members if you ask about it here.

If the budget is an issue and they diverted it to somewhere else, that has something to do with hacking as well. It is clear that they need to make sure they have a lot of money in cold wallets, the 40 million dollars was either in hot wallet, a place that can be hacked easier, and that is the problem, or if not then where the hell was it that all 40 was taken? I mean if they had a hack from the cold wallet that alone is scary.

As a team that lost a bunch to hufflepuff all those years ago, they should be very well aware of the risks of being hacked, that should be dangerous. They had so much money and we ended up with something that was a lot closer and they are probably not doing big deals because of this anymore.

Actually, 180k bets is quite some sample size for blackjack.
And calling stake a "regulated" site also doesn't really mean anything since.

I will quote someone from this thread who actually made a good point.
This is the thread: https://stakecommunity.com/topic/81675-rigged-beyond-a-doubt/


Not saying that OP is right but saying that stake can't be trusted blindly when very often the math in the casino games doesn't add up. I played blackjack there for a while as well, with terrible results. Losing 10 hands in a row is a common occurance while I never, and I mean NEVER, won so many hands in a row. My best is 5 or 6, that's it. My record of losing hands in a row is 15, you can calculate the odds of that happening yourself. I once started 0:11. They are trying to get you right from the start so you can't even recover.

But anyway, I am gone now from stake. Casino is for degens anyway, there is no edge to be found.

I think Stake.com doesn't care about who is posting here on BitcoinTalk. Can you tell me when was the last time they responded to our concerns regarding their VIP program? I've already contacted Stake support on-site, but they couldn't provide information on the current VIP program. Here's the reply I received about my concern regarding the VIP program at Stake:

They say in the trust summary about you that you are ignorant on basic math, and I think it's true. That is your problem. You claim "I lost 4,6% of the bets while the house edge is 0,5%", and you think the site is cheating, while no one told you you should lose 0,5% with your 180k bets. I mean, you could lose much more than 4,6% and you could win 100% or more if you were lucky. 180k bets is too small an amount to come to any conclusions.

Stake is a regulated site, and the advertised house edge is checked on a regular basis. And it's done through the simulation of tens of millions bets. No one needs your "statistics" based on 180k bets.

Thank you, just claim for these month.

Fun-fact, I don't betting anything during these month. I got the base reward from monthly (10$), wish me luck from 10$ to cashout at least 300$ ~XD. That's would be nice, even people know.

Never betting during bonus being shared, but f*cked it just betting these ~XD.

Stake have move on with the hack incident and i believe by now stake have recovered from that already and will not let that affet any possible promotions for the holiday season coming up, and i believe that we will ve seeing new promotion that will go along with the season from stake, i dont have stake account, but rhen i may likely try the casino out if i am given some free bonuse to try with.


Stake still remain one of the popular casinos around that many of us will like to try out our luck if given some free chances in for of special promos.

Monthly is just around the corner.

But be careful, seem like fake monthly mails are making the rounds, even though they are very amateurish made.  

You can see it here: https://stakecommunity.com/topic/81732-becarful-fake-email-monthly/#comment-1814433

Since now we have the 14th it's been over 30 days since the last monthly. There is a good chance it will come today or more likely in the next 1-2 days. At least I hope so.

Edit: And the real one is out: https://playstake.info/bonus?code=novembermonthlybonusv2lop09asfht

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Yes, because sometimes side-bet is a sucker bet.

Also, hitting trip is not really regulary. I more prefer reduce the side-bet, and allowed double after split. These feature only on certain casino, and If casino want these they can easily request to EVO.

I just play evolution gaming now but I didn’t notice the double down after splitting pair. I think this feature varies per casino since I remember some casino doesn’t offer side bet before while others have on the same evolution gaming which means they can customize the live games they will offer.

Double after split is indeed a good feature. I only experienced this feature on some house game blackjack of other casino.

I notice too that Stake table only limit user to 1 seat at a time which is annoying to me because I often use multiple seat when increasing my bet instead of increasing bet on a single seat to have a better chance to get BJ and Breakeven when have a bad hand.

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Yes, but AHOYBRAUSE asked me if I once made a mistake showing my "real" IP while logging in from a restricted country.

See below:


I explained to him that it is technically not possible to login from a restricted country and now he lies that Stake didn't just say I am not allowed to deposit before I do KYC.

But Stake support exactly said this.

As other users have explained, news of the hack was no obstacle but I think this year's celebration will be lower because the budget is diverted to other events/projects so I can't guess for sure how big the event will be, if Stake.com still uses the same scheme as last year I will share tips on the right way to participate sometimes they don't know how to minimize losses in wager hunting but yeah a little luck is also needed. Anyway, next month several events will be waiting for us to celebrate Christmas and New Year and what I'm waiting for is the 2x monthly bonus.

Bonus codes required 10k wager most of the time in Stake, I dont think it is a high requirement and it is not that hard to wager 10k even for small players including myself. Talking about "interesting promotion", I think it is subjective because a promotion can be interesting for you but not for me, while other promotion can be interesting for me but not for you. For me claiming codes during specific event like Christmas with 10k wager is more interesting than triple winning on sports. Of course we have our own preferences and I'm sure there are so many different preferences if we are talking about promotion. This is why no casino will be able to satisfy all players at the same time when it comes to promotions.