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Sometimes I really want to throw up on this site.

2 full minutes to go in a NBA game and they suspend all petting until the end.
Which bookmaker does that?
First the ass move against platinum 1 players and now this stupidity.
Time to leave this site, its getting to annoying!

All the bookmakers that use the same provider as stake?

Name 1.

Bet365

Wrong, LOL. They had moneyline open until 30sec before ending Wink

. I didn't ask for a guess by the way.

Also stake once claimed they don't use the same odds provider as bet365. Odds are different as well.
I know that because I asked the chat support a while back.

They use sportradar as of a little over a year ago, same as bet365, William Hill, etc.

So thats even worse they use the same provider but choose to suspend betting in the last minutes while bet365 for example has open bets in same games until last seconds.
What I also dont understand, often at live games the odds are for example 2.0 : 1.7 on bet365 and on stake its 2.2 : 1.55 at the same time/game.

The provider is the one that makes those kind of decisions almost always, not the casino.

Ahm, do do read what you quote, right? Anyway, have a nice day/week/year/life.

While a large provider services many different sites, this doesn't mean each of the sites will have identical odds. In many cases a company operating in multiple jurisdictions will offer different prices in each jurisdiction. The international Bet365 odds, for example, are not identical to the American branch of bet365.

As I said, decisions like when or when not to take live action on a game is almost certainly a decision made by the provider, not the Casino (stake).

So I have to repeat yet again that in same games Bet365 has bets open while at stake they are closed, thats a fact.
I think you intentionally try to bore me, so good bye.

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I do not feel like I can play in the third party places, it just feels so wrong, it is not even provably fair. I understand other people who play it, and I understand that Stake would definitely pay it if there was a provably wrong thing by any third party app, so that's fine, but why risk it? That is why I do not tell others to not play there, they can play there, it is a risk they are taking but when you are in Stake that risk is very little, you are basically risking getting scammed by third party app and be paid by stake so not a big deal, maybe just a bit of time and inconvenience and that is why it is not a big deal even for me who doesn't play it.

However I rather not risk that, the original stake games on the other hand are great, they are provably fair and that is why I liked stake and that's why I will continue to gamble there as well on the original places but that's it.

I think I can agree with that, you do not have to play the third party games, after all they are not provably fair and why would anyone play at a place that has no provably fair. This is why I have started to play at other places more and more and play here less and less, haven't even gambled for the past week whereas I use to gamble every day.

This place became a place that has thousands of games that are not provably fair when they were actually the place that started the provably fair talks in crypto, and also this place moved from "giving out free money in faucet" place turning into "if you are not rich, we do not care about you at all, your support will wait for 48 hours while we take care of 100 rich people at the same time". Hence, all those things that degraded from the early days into today made me not really like it here as much as I used to.

These types of concerns are why I stick only to sports betting where you only need to worry about the odds.

I think most of the provably fair claims from online casinos can be taken with a grain of salt. Rarely is it verified and things can change quickly as well as "mistakes" can be made. If you aren't verifying for yourself that operations aren't provably fair, you shouldn't believe they are and if you don't believe they are, you shouldn't use them.

Only those games in which the user can see the seeds (server and client side) before playing are those where one can be 99.9% sure that they can be considered fair. At least you can verify the outcome of the bets and then only luck makes its part to determine winning or losing bets.

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Quote from: SquallLeonhart on March 23, 2021, 03:35:23 AM

I do not feel like I can play in the third party places, it just feels so wrong, it is not even provably fair. I understand other people who play it, and I understand that Stake would definitely pay it if there was a provably wrong thing by any third party app, so that's fine, but why risk it? That is why I do not tell others to not play there, they can play there, it is a risk they are taking but when you are in Stake that risk is very little, you are basically risking getting scammed by third party app and be paid by stake so not a big deal, maybe just a bit of time and inconvenience and that is why it is not a big deal even for me who doesn't play it.

However I rather not risk that, the original stake games on the other hand are great, they are provably fair and that is why I liked stake and that's why I will continue to gamble there as well on the original places but that's it.

I think I can agree with that, you do not have to play the third party games, after all they are not provably fair and why would anyone play at a place that has no provably fair. This is why I have started to play at other places more and more and play here less and less, haven't even gambled for the past week whereas I use to gamble every day.

This place became a place that has thousands of games that are not provably fair when they were actually the place that started the provably fair talks in crypto, and also this place moved from "giving out free money in faucet" place turning into "if you are not rich, we do not care about you at all, your support will wait for 48 hours while we take care of 100 rich people at the same time". Hence, all those things that degraded from the early days into today made me not really like it here as much as I used to.

These types of concerns are why I stick only to sports betting where you only need to worry about the odds.

I think most of the provably fair claims from online casinos can be taken with a grain of salt. Rarely is it verified and things can change quickly as well as "mistakes" can be made. If you aren't verifying for yourself that operations aren't provably fair, you shouldn't believe they are and if you don't believe they are, you shouldn't use them.

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Quote from: SquallLeonhart on March 23, 2021, 03:35:23 AM

I do not feel like I can play in the third party places, it just feels so wrong, it is not even provably fair. I understand other people who play it, and I understand that Stake would definitely pay it if there was a provably wrong thing by any third party app, so that's fine, but why risk it? That is why I do not tell others to not play there, they can play there, it is a risk they are taking but when you are in Stake that risk is very little, you are basically risking getting scammed by third party app and be paid by stake so not a big deal, maybe just a bit of time and inconvenience and that is why it is not a big deal even for me who doesn't play it.

However I rather not risk that, the original stake games on the other hand are great, they are provably fair and that is why I liked stake and that's why I will continue to gamble there as well on the original places but that's it.

I think I can agree with that, you do not have to play the third party games, after all they are not provably fair and why would anyone play at a place that has no provably fair. This is why I have started to play at other places more and more and play here less and less, haven't even gambled for the past week whereas I use to gamble every day.

This place became a place that has thousands of games that are not provably fair when they were actually the place that started the provably fair talks in crypto, and also this place moved from "giving out free money in faucet" place turning into "if you are not rich, we do not care about you at all, your support will wait for 48 hours while we take care of 100 rich people at the same time". Hence, all those things that degraded from the early days into today made me not really like it here as much as I used to.

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on March 24, 2021, 04:44:15 AM

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While a large provider services many different sites, this doesn't mean each of the sites will have identical odds. In many cases a company operating in multiple jurisdictions will offer different prices in each jurisdiction. The international Bet365 odds, for example, are not identical to the American branch of bet365.

As I said, decisions like when or when not to take live action on a game is almost certainly a decision made by the provider, not the Casino (stake).

I think it's quite obvious that the odds should be different on different sites because from the moment when people start placing their bets, the odds are being formed automatically depending on the amounts placed on this or that outcome. For example, if for some reason a lot of money put on an underdog, on a particular site, you can get some very attractive odds for the opponent(a strong team or player) on this site. It's because the possible underdog's win should be counterbalanced by the money put on the other side.

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Sometimes I really want to throw up on this site.

2 full minutes to go in a NBA game and they suspend all petting until the end.
Which bookmaker does that?
First the ass move against platinum 1 players and now this stupidity.
Time to leave this site, its getting to annoying!

All the bookmakers that use the same provider as stake?

Name 1.

Bet365

Wrong, LOL. They had moneyline open until 30sec before ending Wink

. I didn't ask for a guess by the way.

Also stake once claimed they don't use the same odds provider as bet365. Odds are different as well.
I know that because I asked the chat support a while back.

They use sportradar as of a little over a year ago, same as bet365, William Hill, etc.

So thats even worse they use the same provider but choose to suspend betting in the last minutes while bet365 for example has open bets in same games until last seconds.
What I also dont understand, often at live games the odds are for example 2.0 : 1.7 on bet365 and on stake its 2.2 : 1.55 at the same time/game.

The provider is the one that makes those kind of decisions almost always, not the casino.

Ahm, do do read what you quote, right? Anyway, have a nice day/week/year/life.

While a large provider services many different sites, this doesn't mean each of the sites will have identical odds. In many cases a company operating in multiple jurisdictions will offer different prices in each jurisdiction. The international Bet365 odds, for example, are not identical to the American branch of bet365.

As I said, decisions like when or when not to take live action on a game is almost certainly a decision made by the provider, not the Casino (stake).

Maasdamer

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on March 24, 2021, 12:21:08 AM

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on March 21, 2021, 10:40:45 PM

Quote from: Maasdamer on March 21, 2021, 10:02:05 PM

Sometimes I really want to throw up on this site.

2 full minutes to go in a NBA game and they suspend all petting until the end.
Which bookmaker does that?
First the ass move against platinum 1 players and now this stupidity.
Time to leave this site, its getting to annoying!

All the bookmakers that use the same provider as stake?

Name 1.

Bet365

Wrong, LOL. They had moneyline open until 30sec before ending Wink

. I didn't ask for a guess by the way.

Also stake once claimed they don't use the same odds provider as bet365. Odds are different as well.
I know that because I asked the chat support a while back.

They use sportradar as of a little over a year ago, same as bet365, William Hill, etc.

So thats even worse they use the same provider but choose to suspend betting in the last minutes while bet365 for example has open bets in same games until last seconds.
What I also dont understand, often at live games the odds are for example 2.0 : 1.7 on bet365 and on stake its 2.2 : 1.55 at the same time/game.

The provider is the one that makes those kind of decisions almost always, not the casino.

Ahm, do do read what you quote, right? Anyway, have a nice day/week/year/life.

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Quote from: Maasdamer on March 23, 2021, 09:56:37 PM

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Quote from: Maasdamer on March 21, 2021, 10:49:45 PM

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Quote from: Maasdamer on March 21, 2021, 10:02:05 PM

Sometimes I really want to throw up on this site.

2 full minutes to go in a NBA game and they suspend all petting until the end.
Which bookmaker does that?
First the ass move against platinum 1 players and now this stupidity.
Time to leave this site, its getting to annoying!

All the bookmakers that use the same provider as stake?

Name 1.

Bet365

Wrong, LOL. They had moneyline open until 30sec before ending Wink

. I didn't ask for a guess by the way.

Also stake once claimed they don't use the same odds provider as bet365. Odds are different as well.
I know that because I asked the chat support a while back.

They use sportradar as of a little over a year ago, same as bet365, William Hill, etc.

So thats even worse they use the same provider but choose to suspend betting in the last minutes while bet365 for example has open bets in same games until last seconds.
What I also dont understand, often at live games the odds are for example 2.0 : 1.7 on bet365 and on stake its 2.2 : 1.55 at the same time/game.

The provider is the one that makes those kind of decisions almost always, not the casino.

Maasdamer

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Quote from: ralle14 on March 23, 2021, 10:59:36 PM

Quote from: Maasdamer on March 23, 2021, 09:56:37 PM

So thats even worse they use the same provider but choose to suspend betting in the last minutes while bet365 for example has open bets in same games until last seconds.
What I also dont understand, often at live games the odds are for example 2.0 : 1.7 on bet365 and on stake its 2.2 : 1.55 at the same time/game.

That's because they set their own juice on each market, it's kind of like how casinos set their own house edge on the games they have.

In a way those juice also affects the cashouts that's why the cashout tax is a bit higher on stake compared to the others.

Didnt talke about the "juice" mate, talking about totally different odds.
Cashout at stake is a joke anyway, you buy at 1.8 and game goes well and odds go down to 1.5 and cashout is breakeven, haha.

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Quote from: Maasdamer on March 23, 2021, 09:56:37 PM

So thats even worse they use the same provider but choose to suspend betting in the last minutes while bet365 for example has open bets in same games until last seconds.
What I also dont understand, often at live games the odds are for example 2.0 : 1.7 on bet365 and on stake its 2.2 : 1.55 at the same time/game.

That's because they set their own juice on each market, it's kind of like how casinos set their own house edge on the games they have.

In a way those juice also affects the cashouts that's why the cashout tax is a bit higher on stake compared to the others.

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on March 23, 2021, 09:45:07 PM

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Quote from: Maasdamer on March 21, 2021, 10:02:05 PM

Sometimes I really want to throw up on this site.

2 full minutes to go in a NBA game and they suspend all petting until the end.
Which bookmaker does that?
First the ass move against platinum 1 players and now this stupidity.
Time to leave this site, its getting to annoying!

All the bookmakers that use the same provider as stake?

Name 1.

Bet365

Wrong, LOL. They had moneyline open until 30sec before ending Wink

. I didn't ask for a guess by the way.

Also stake once claimed they don't use the same odds provider as bet365. Odds are different as well.
I know that because I asked the chat support a while back.

They use sportradar as of a little over a year ago, same as bet365, William Hill, etc.

So thats even worse they use the same provider but choose to suspend betting in the last minutes while bet365 for example has open bets in same games until last seconds.
What I also dont understand, often at live games the odds are for example 2.0 : 1.7 on bet365 and on stake its 2.2 : 1.55 at the same time/game.

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Quote from: Maasdamer on March 21, 2021, 11:22:07 PM

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Quote from: Maasdamer on March 21, 2021, 10:49:45 PM

Quote from: TwitchySeal on March 21, 2021, 10:40:45 PM

Quote from: Maasdamer on March 21, 2021, 10:02:05 PM

Sometimes I really want to throw up on this site.

2 full minutes to go in a NBA game and they suspend all petting until the end.
Which bookmaker does that?
First the ass move against platinum 1 players and now this stupidity.
Time to leave this site, its getting to annoying!

All the bookmakers that use the same provider as stake?

Name 1.

Bet365

Wrong, LOL. They had moneyline open until 30sec before ending Wink

. I didn't ask for a guess by the way.

Also stake once claimed they don't use the same odds provider as bet365. Odds are different as well.
I know that because I asked the chat support a while back.

They use sportradar as of a little over a year ago, same as bet365, William Hill, etc.

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Quote from: Maasdamer on March 21, 2021, 10:02:05 PM

2 full minutes to go in a NBA game and they suspend all petting until the end.
Which bookmaker does that?

Isn't it usual and just a common thing to happen? There are even live bets that closed within the last 5 minutes before the buzzer ends.

Some examples are, Nitrogensports live betting and if I'm not mistaken, also Sportsbet in some cases.

Move on mate as we can't revert back what happened. There is still lots of next time.

I know Nitro is bad but they have live bets on basketball much longer open than stake.
I maean 2 min to go and timeout, there is no reason to close all bets.
Tbh I dont know 1 site that closes as early as stake, and I tried a lot of sites.

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Quote from: Maasdamer on March 21, 2021, 10:02:05 PM

2 full minutes to go in a NBA game and they suspend all petting until the end.
Which bookmaker does that?

Isn't it usual and just a common thing to happen? There are even live bets that closed within the last 5 minutes before the buzzer ends.

Some examples are, Nitrogensports live betting and if I'm not mistaken, also Sportsbet in some cases.

Move on mate as we can't revert back what happened. There is still lots of next time.

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Is anyone seeing this exciting live streaming? So much exciting match is streaming now, I think it will be tough for New Zealand to challenge 272 run's target. If Conway and Latham failed to make 100 run's partnership then I confirm that New Zealand will be going to be defeated today in their own land by Bangladesh. I put my bet today for Bangladesh with awesome odds(2.24) Shocked

, Hope will be won....

Tom Latham has changed the match towards their side. You expected Tom Latham and Convoy not to make a big partnership, but both played an awesome innings and won the match with ten balls left. Target of 300+ runs might've added pressure to New Zealand batting second. Anyhow the odds were good, better luck next time.

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Quote from: 2double0 on March 21, 2021, 03:24:18 PM

$3000 in prizes? That is a great way for us to try out on new games and also shine our luck by winning something out of the game and the prizes. However, I think that small gamblers like me can only go for the lucky wins as big wins is out of my reach. Cheesy

But I hope I will win.

You should try the small prize contests they do in the forum because it is an easy way of making $5-10 without much efforts. The races are really hard and I believe only high rollers can win there. You can also win level-up bonuses which is cool but I am still upset about the changes they made in the platinum system, now requiring platinum II which if I am not wrong, is $500k to get a VIP manager and daily reloads.

I am happy that I am already a platinum so I have my own host and they didn't changed it, but I feel for the new players.

Quote from: Maasdamer on March 21, 2021, 10:02:05 PM

2 full minutes to go in a NBA game and they suspend all petting until the end.
Which bookmaker does that?

Almost all the sportsbook do that during the last minutes and you may check any other crypto sportsbook, apart from a few fiat-based ones, all do that.

Quote from: Maasdamer on March 21, 2021, 10:02:05 PM

First the ass move against platinum 1 players and now this stupidity.
Time to leave this site, its getting to annoying!

I am also upset about the platinum changes but come on, move on and if you ain't comfortable just leave brother. I still feel stake is head and torso above other casinos in terms of bonuses and VIP programs.

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It's really interesting to play new release slot games here at Stake. When I was just a beginner here with them, this was almost and often I played and hoped to win a prize at Conquer the casino. Even though I haven't been lucky enough to get the prizes on the leaderboards, I'm happy to see my lucky and big wins in any position, for me that experience is enough to say that I enjoy playing here and that's really is important.

I’m just not sure because I see on their website that it’s not updated right now. You will see that it is still posted as follows: "Please note: This week's competition will end at 00:00 Thursday, March 18 GMT." So the Viking Runes. (YGGDrasil) ended last week.

You are right, the slot games at stake are getting better every day, initially I liked to play poker a lot, I'm still playing it, I had no luck the last time I played last week, sometimes we have great streaks and sometimes not, and with respect to date it has me a little confused, however we have to wait, maybe the update is about to come out, anyway I think they can reopen it.

I do not feel like I can play in the third party places, it just feels so wrong, it is not even provably fair. I understand other people who play it, and I understand that Stake would definitely pay it if there was a provably wrong thing by any third party app, so that's fine, but why risk it? That is why I do not tell others to not play there, they can play there, it is a risk they are taking but when you are in Stake that risk is very little, you are basically risking getting scammed by third party app and be paid by stake so not a big deal, maybe just a bit of time and inconvenience and that is why it is not a big deal even for me who doesn't play it.

However I rather not risk that, the original stake games on the other hand are great, they are provably fair and that is why I liked stake and that's why I will continue to gamble there as well on the original places but that's it.

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Is anyone seeing this exciting live streaming? So much exciting match is streaming now, I think it will be tough for New Zealand to challenge 272 run's target. If Conway and Latham failed to make 100 run's partnership then I confirm that New Zealand will be going to be defeated today in their own land by Bangladesh. I put my bet today for Bangladesh with awesome odds(2.24) Shocked

, Hope will be won....

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