This morning I received a partial list of shareholders!
As of now only 4378 of the 10420 shares issued are accounted for, which is great, but we still have a ways to go. I will be sending a mass email asking shareholders to make an exchange account (likely at http://BTCT.co ) once we get more shares accounted for.
I'll be updating you as I am updated...
Best,
Garrett
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November 21, 2012, 03:32:54 PM
November 21, 2012, 01:26:40 AM
Seems Giga received an incomplete list from Nefario, but it is a start
To all Gigaminers:
Late yesterday I received an asset holder list from GLBSE. Per the email received, the list may grow some more so it may not be the final list.
This is good news as it means step one is near completion. I will be working with counsel later today and possibly into next week to finalize the next steps and to clarify what has to be done and why.
Best regards,
gigavps
Late yesterday I received an asset holder list from GLBSE. Per the email received, the list may grow some more so it may not be the final list.
This is good news as it means step one is near completion. I will be working with counsel later today and possibly into next week to finalize the next steps and to clarify what has to be done and why.
Best regards,
gigavps
Awesome! I haven't received a list yet but what exchanges do you have in mind?
I really like BTCT.co and the guy behind it is very diligent about keeping things updated, so as of now this is my #1 choice.
This is a great sign, hopefully everything will be resolved soon.
Best,
Garrett
Maybe shareholders can tell you their preferred choice then you can tally up the results before making a decision.
Of course. I kind of just wanted to get a general consensus on the public forum first so proper preparations can be made beforehand.
IMO, http://BTCT.co is definitely the best option as of now.
November 21, 2012, 12:48:21 AM
Seems Giga received an incomplete list from Nefario, but it is a start
To all Gigaminers:
Late yesterday I received an asset holder list from GLBSE. Per the email received, the list may grow some more so it may not be the final list.
This is good news as it means step one is near completion. I will be working with counsel later today and possibly into next week to finalize the next steps and to clarify what has to be done and why.
Best regards,
gigavps
Late yesterday I received an asset holder list from GLBSE. Per the email received, the list may grow some more so it may not be the final list.
This is good news as it means step one is near completion. I will be working with counsel later today and possibly into next week to finalize the next steps and to clarify what has to be done and why.
Best regards,
gigavps
Awesome! I haven't received a list yet but what exchanges do you have in mind?
I really like BTCT.co and the guy behind it is very diligent about keeping things updated, so as of now this is my #1 choice.
This is a great sign, hopefully everything will be resolved soon.
Best,
Garrett
Maybe shareholders can tell you their preferred choice then you can tally up the results before making a decision.
November 21, 2012, 12:32:18 AM
Is the total mined since the GLBSE fiasco been updated to the latest?
Yes
November 20, 2012, 09:42:35 PM
Is the total mined since the GLBSE fiasco been updated to the latest?
November 20, 2012, 06:48:26 PM
According to the latest from Nefario I will be receiving shareholder data within a week!
November 20, 2012, 06:37:56 PM
Seems Giga received an incomplete list from Nefario, but it is a start
To all Gigaminers:
Late yesterday I received an asset holder list from GLBSE. Per the email received, the list may grow some more so it may not be the final list.
This is good news as it means step one is near completion. I will be working with counsel later today and possibly into next week to finalize the next steps and to clarify what has to be done and why.
Best regards,
gigavps
Late yesterday I received an asset holder list from GLBSE. Per the email received, the list may grow some more so it may not be the final list.
This is good news as it means step one is near completion. I will be working with counsel later today and possibly into next week to finalize the next steps and to clarify what has to be done and why.
Best regards,
gigavps
Awesome! I haven't received a list yet but what exchanges do you have in mind?
I really like BTCT.co and the guy behind it is very diligent about keeping things updated, so as of now this is my #1 choice.
This is a great sign, hopefully everything will be resolved soon.
Best,
Garrett
November 20, 2012, 09:22:34 AM
Seems Giga received an incomplete list from Nefario, but it is a start
To all Gigaminers:
Late yesterday I received an asset holder list from GLBSE. Per the email received, the list may grow some more so it may not be the final list.
This is good news as it means step one is near completion. I will be working with counsel later today and possibly into next week to finalize the next steps and to clarify what has to be done and why.
Best regards,
gigavps
Late yesterday I received an asset holder list from GLBSE. Per the email received, the list may grow some more so it may not be the final list.
This is good news as it means step one is near completion. I will be working with counsel later today and possibly into next week to finalize the next steps and to clarify what has to be done and why.
Best regards,
gigavps
November 20, 2012, 07:13:57 AM
The best bet is relist somewhere in preparation for getting infos back. While it's still cheaper to do so 
You dont have to put the shares on the market till that occurs.
You dont have to put the shares on the market till that occurs.
November 20, 2012, 02:24:41 AM
We can't punish everyone because some people may be dishonest. The recover process has to happens sometime and somehow.
Is there a PGP key we can encrypt our data with so the information is for your eyes only?
Is there a PGP key we can encrypt our data with so the information is for your eyes only?
I just added it to that last post.
Indeed the process will have to happen, but I think we should try waiting it out for the rest of the year, then go ahead and put whatever plan we have established at that point into practice.
November 20, 2012, 01:14:25 AM
Getting the popcorn ready for the spectacular failure of attempts to distribute shares by "claims" which can't in any way be proven. That should provide sufficient drama supplies to last us at the very least through the winter.
Hey everyone,
I am also becoming more skeptical of Nefarious (get the pun?) activities by the minute... so, as always, I'm open to all suggestions.
Stochastic, your plan would work well if all humans were genuine, honest people, but unfortunately that is not so. If we can find a way to link GLBSE history with blockchain data, this would be a good solution only for people who have a recent backup. I'm going to make the fair assumption that most people do not.
Regardless, we may as well start gathering data; it can't hurt. So please send everything you have to [email protected] whether it be a highly modifiable spreadsheet or a highly modifiable screenshot.
Please include your GLBSE username, email associated with GLBSE, (estimated) number of shares owned, and a bitcoin address.
Please don't consider my attitude on the matter pessimistic, I'm trying to be a realist. We simply will not be able to recover all shareholder data via the mentioned methods, which will probably be legally unfair. Sure you could argue that you performed your due diligence and others did not, but others will always try to combat this. I'll be asking around for information regarding this. I want to solve this problem in the best interest of everyone involved, obviously.
Sorry if this post is pretty scrambled, I'm thinking about quite a few things right now...
Best,
Garrett
We can't punish everyone because some people may be dishonest. The recover process has to happens sometime and somehow.
Is there a PGP key we can encrypt our data with so the information is for your eyes only?
November 19, 2012, 03:40:30 PM
Getting the popcorn ready for the spectacular failure of attempts to distribute shares by "claims" which can't in any way be proven. That should provide sufficient drama supplies to last us at the very least through the winter.
Hey everyone,
I am also becoming more skeptical of Nefarious (get the pun?) activities by the minute... so, as always, I'm open to all suggestions.
Stochastic, your plan would work well if all humans were genuine, honest people, but unfortunately that is not so. If we can find a way to link GLBSE history with blockchain data, this would be a good solution only for people who have a recent backup. I'm going to make the fair assumption that most people do not.
Regardless, we may as well start gathering data; it can't hurt. So please send everything you have to [email protected] whether it be a highly modifiable spreadsheet or a highly modifiable screenshot.
Please include your GLBSE username, email associated with GLBSE, (estimated) number of shares owned, and a bitcoin address.
Please don't consider my attitude on the matter pessimistic, I'm trying to be a realist. We simply will not be able to recover all shareholder data via the mentioned methods, which will probably be legally unfair. Sure you could argue that you performed your due diligence and others did not, but others will always try to combat this. I'll be asking around for information regarding this. I want to solve this problem in the best interest of everyone involved, obviously.
Sorry if this post is pretty scrambled, I'm thinking about quite a few things right now...
Best,
Garrett
Edit: Encrypt with this key if you'd like to be a bit more secure.
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November 19, 2012, 01:07:05 PM
It doesn't hurt to collect this information I suppose, but I'd prefer to wait 3-6 months before acting on it. I know I had cognitive shares, but I have no idea how many. I had lots of standing orders when the shutdown happened, and based solely on what BTC was returned to me, I know a bunch of them went through right before the shutdown. In fact, using the twitter feed I was able to guess at several of my last minute purchases. A lot of them were my lowball standing orders, which leads me to believe some people were 'in the know' about the impending doom. 
Cheers.
Cheers.
November 19, 2012, 04:34:00 AM
Yes. Good ideas. Me too have my .csv trade history file downloaded on September 18.
Garr, what do you say? Should we proceed with this?
Garr, what do you say? Should we proceed with this?
November 19, 2012, 01:51:09 AM
I have screen capture from right before the closing and a .csv file as well.
I think the only thing that would be informative is the csv file as it contains a lot of information proving when and what trades occurred and who actually owns the account.
See https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/possible-claims-process-for-glbse-assets-126673 for a possible claims process.
Excellent! Thanks
November 18, 2012, 11:13:36 PM
I have screen capture from right before the closing and a .csv file as well.
I think the only thing that would be informative is the csv file as it contains a lot of information proving when and what trades occurred and who actually owns the account.
See https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/possible-claims-process-for-glbse-assets-126673 for a possible claims process.
November 18, 2012, 08:18:56 PM
I have screen capture from right before the closing and a .csv file as well.
November 18, 2012, 03:51:48 PM
In the case of him not ever giving shareholder data, what do you, shareholders, recommend we do?
I have a screencapture of my GLBSE portfolio made on September 19, a few days before the closing. Obviously I am available to share it with the Cognitive issuer if it can help. I just did it with the YABMC issuer and he appreciated it.
If most of the other investors have screencaps or downloaded their trading history a short while before the closing we could try to sort things out this way.
November 18, 2012, 01:33:28 AM
Is there somewhere to get all of the trade history for GLBSE and figure out who owned what shares? I know how many shares I owned but no point in telling anyone without proof.
Yes I made a post that links to all the history.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/complete-glbse-trading-and-dividend-history-and-estimated-revenue-117491
I don't know what good that will do. Since GLBSE never sent confirmation emails about the transaction taking place there is no direct proof of who bought what.
Maybe Cognitive could start setting up its own claims process that has the history of trades and the account history from others if they recorded it or saved it from GLBSE. I got lucky and saved my GLBSE history on October 2, but others might not be as fortunate.
November 17, 2012, 05:49:58 PM
Is there somewhere to get all of the trade history for GLBSE and figure out who owned what shares? I know how many shares I owned but no point in telling anyone without proof.
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