Topic: Steem pyramid scheme revealed - page 38. (Read 107064 times)

I had already written that diversity was okay and that my issue was not with diversity.

I suppose my issue is with the default ranking putting that "diversity" in front everyone's face who would be repulsed by it:


Again I will try to get you to understand my point is not that diversity is undesirable, but that putting hate speech[1] in front of people's faces that repulses them, is another way to make them leave.

Again I will try to get you to understand that my point is we need a better way to determine relevance for individual preferences. People who want to see that content should see it and those that don't, shouldn't.

[1] Monogamists are losers who deserve to be cheated on! Wives are stupid to be faithful! Fornicate with everything that moves now, lest you are a worthless, pitiful piece-of-shit! Welcome to Steemit.

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I think people feel more likely to refer to a website with beloved pride, when they don't think they are referring to some site that promotes memes that repulse them. Everyone wants to think their social network has a place which represents their interests and politics. Also political content is divisive and unifying. Other types of content would be less contentious.

I think this is why it is very important that a system needs to match the ranking of content to difference preferences.

Bitcoin hasn't gone mainstream because if I have to stay awake at night worrying about how the actions of Jihan Wu, or Gmaxwell reacting to his actions is going to do to the price, then we obviously have no Nash equilibrium.  Seems like the software was designed in a way assuming there would be so many individual miners that one person influencing all of them would not be possible, and the act of forking would involve just blind voting without collusion.  Bitcoin just has a lot of annoyances like this where you can't really justify it's market cap going equal or higher than metals.

The Larimer's are Evangelicals of some stripe (though Dan thinks he's smarter than God and at that jazz)...
So there is a reasonable amount of decent religious/philosophical content on Steemit, hardly a "cesspool"....
In sharp contrast to the atheist, wanton money grubbery on a bed juvenile conspiracy theories that passes for "culture" in thr Crypto Ghetto.

Bitcoin has not gone mainstream because ordinary people are creeped out by Crypto Culture...
(And the egomaniacal hyper-geeks that want to replace all things human with robots and code)...
So to point fingers at Steemit from Freaking BitcoinTalk, the single most degenerate site on the web, is laughable.  

Oooor, whales upvoting diverse material. Diversity maximizes "reach". It's like the monogamy/polygamy debate. Both get visibility and people who agree with X or Z.

Seems to work well for the Zio-media so far.  Without fail, every single time, you can look up the owner of websites who are pushing some type of Sodom and Gomorrah agenda and this is what you will get:

Ashley Madison website CEO:

"Born in 1971, Biderman is a Toronto native. The grandson of Holocaust survivors, he is Jewish — although unsurprisingly, he thinks the 10 Commandments are "outdated."

O vey goys, have an affair!  Destroy your family!  Weaken the building blocks of civilization to make it easier to divide and conquer!

The media, the rap industry, the porn industry, how to cheat on your marriage websites, it's all the same people.

Try again to read my statement and pay attention to the key word 'whale'.

Did I want to remove to content or did I want to remove whale's deciding what the culture of Steem should be.

Whale's promoting a culture which repulses the billions of masses, is probably not a good strategy for mass adoption.

There are many reasons users might abandon Steem (e.g. managing passwords is a pita, signup and choosing long password is a pita, UI is clunky, only a few earn anything, etc), and that can be another one.

I see no problem with @msgivings' controversial blogs and the discussion they generate, but I do see a problem with valuing (and ranking) them at $2000 per blog post, indicating to all prospective bloggers and readers that the economic priority is around here is polygamy and shaming women into not being wives. Even his posts might be worth $2000 in a large ecosystem, they still wouldn't be ranked very highly for the majority of readers in a system that was correctly prioritizing attention. I often agree with @complexring's taste in content, but there are cases such as this where I don't. This is why we can't base coteries solely on groups of users, because users who agree on some topics may disagree on others in terms of preferences of what they want to prioritize their attention on. Also disagreement is not the same as ignoring, so our algorithm has to take this into account as well.

In other words, in my design every blog author is responsible for their own market of readers. You won't have some powerful whale hand gifting you a status.

The more important point is that the content and activity has to be popular, engaging, and exclusive enough (w.r.t. to what is available on other establish social networks) to drive onboarding for the masses or at least a very significant niche of the population.

Sure but Steem price will be ridiculous low really, Bitshares low. No coin goes to absolute zero unless it's delisted from all exchanges.

Someone could ask "and who are you? The content-nazi?"

Writing anything and getting upvotes or downvotes is a feature, not a problem. The moment rewards start being given according to what one person thinks is ok, that's where the problem starts.

Comic gold. One of the best blog posts I've seen:

lol, that is my real curiousity about Steem.  

You keep preaching that it's going to die, but there's thousands of altcoins that are far worse than Steem that have not died.  So I'm curious as to what the content will be like if it just goes into a bear market for a long duration and people are only getting paid five cents to post.  Does it turn into 4chan or something then?  Does it turn into millions of posts where people spam ASCII penises non-stop?  Even if the price went to nothing, as long as it stays online, some obscure demographic from an alternate universe will use it for something.  

They finally got wind of my block suggestion, but hope they realize some features are impossible in a decentralized system:

Mayday, mayday. Taking on water fast, abandon ship:


Edit: follow-up confirms this decadent culture and there is no way we should be or could even promulgate these memes to a widespread social network to the majority of the world's population (Filipinos for example would be repulsed by this blog post):



Steemit and sex with animals is next:

Never argue with a woman!

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Extra motivation to destroy the Steem(it) whale model asap:


Steem is descending into a cesspool culture.

I am now speculating that it is not just the bloggers that are dumping Steem. Also I do not think the founders will run away with the money like Decentralized said. But the question is why is it going down? Is someone gaming the system? We have seen this happen before where click farms are hired by a group to create accounts in a site. Maybe it is happening now on Steemit. Is there someone with the data that shows where an account was made and the Steem was immediately sold?

Why on earth would I chose Synereo over Steemit? Synereo does not even exist! — Steemit
https://steemit.com/synereo/@fyrstikken/why-on-earth-would-i-chose-synereo-over-steemit-synereo-does-not-even-exist

DE I am sorry but I am just not seeing the economic viability of Synereo:

A comment from a claimed professional writer:

Zombies? Thanks for the inspiration.

https://steemit.com/story/@generalizethis/zombie-hurricane

The problem with the "Steemit is a straight-up scam meme" pimped by that lonely Synereo zombie...
Is that if you go to the Bitshares Forum people will not bad-mouth and, in fact, defend Dan Larimer...
As someone who's hit some tape measure home runs, but also looked bad striking out a few times.

I could have told you a long time ago...
For every great idea Dan has, he comes up with an equally bad idea... and then doubles down on the bad idea.

Somebody should fork Steemit with a wide distribution and a commitment to meritocracy.