Topic: Steem pyramid scheme revealed - page 37. (Read 107058 times)

My mother uses Facebook to communicate about dog rescue and she never looks at the feed page. So she has a need fulfilled and she is not offended.

My gf has told me she hates when Facebook shows her extreme violence and porn on her feed, and also she really hates when people add her to a group without her permission. But she stays on Facebook because all her contacts are there and she gets gratification that far exceeds those rarer transgressions (including lots of shares about cute dogs, clothes, etc).

Steem is trying to onboard and attract users away from existing established networks. Steem has a lot of bizarre philosophical babble that is going to be absolutely meaningless to my gf for example. And to my mom, I am sure she would get her nose bent of out joint 5 minutes after opening Steemit and she would NOT be coming back. She doesn't need that stress in her life. Also my mom told me she has no time to blog (age 70) even though she used to be a newspaper co-editor. And I know my gf would never write long-form blogs. She prefers short-form microblogging.

All I ever see when I open FB is all the updates of photos of friends. Facebook is never bombarding me with content that offends me. It serves my limited purpose as a communication tool only.

Edit: my gf recently wrote a microblog post on her FB share recently about how historically some Chinese women tied their feet in shoes that were too small. I was surprised that she wrote she had been researching this topic. She posted a photo and a link. She likes to get comments feedback on her microblog share posts.

Agree to some extent, but I think the more significant reason is because they haven't had any need for crypto or blockchains.

The only selling point of Steem is the lie that you can make money from blogging. Thus not compelling to a wide usership. Thus Steem is failing viral adoption.

I think women can differentiate between the platform and the post. Otherwise they'd quit facebook the moment someone posted something they perceive as "hurtful" that took 500 likes.

It is a game of life, love, etc. You may or may not be very adept. You can get women to do things for you and to raise your offspring, if you are adroit. Or perhaps you may prefer to hire servants instead. To each his own. That could be a very long discussion that is needless for us in this thread. I would tend to agree that if your objective is maximize your wealth, then probably better to hire servants and stay out of the love aspect. Some men may not be able to afford servants, or they may find that mixing love with it makes the cost cheaper and benefits greater (at least for a while).

I completely agree it is generally insane for a man to marry in a Western country.

This is a tangent I wish we would not have wasted time on. My only relevant point to this thread is that not everyone has the same preferences for content and some content which may appear logical to you, may appear bizarre to others and possibly even offend them.

You'll probably lack much of the data on the user's preferences and habits in order to make ads more relevant for significant revenue.

This is doing nothing to create an ecosystem for the token.

Rough guesstimate appears to me to be a waste. You also show new users that the site is another ad-fucked place.


Exactly. Make sure you blast them with bizarre content that offends them.

I don't "hate" women, I just recognize the fact that even though they've developed an evolutionary tactic to smile a lot, doesn't make them fundamentally good creatures, and that even though women love to claim men are out to try and "use" them, it's actually the woman who is 10x a bigger offender in that regard in trying to exploit men.  So yes, women are basically vampires.

You hate women. So that tells you right there that you are not in touch with any non-destructing form of civilization. So you would support bizzarro content that is hate speech against women (or specifically to those which participate in monogamy and/or marriage).

I want to build a system that supports your desire to do that, without impinging on those who don't want to be exposed to it.

I am not going to repeat everything I already wrote on Steemit about some hypothesis involving monogamy, R and K selection, etc..  Needless tangent. Indeed my point was that men don't have the problem with asymmetry in the developing countries. Men can walk away from the women after impregnating them and never pay a dime. There is a lot of deep analysis on how that changes everything.

You may not understand women very well.

Go insulting a woman's entire goal and philosophy of life and you think this will just bounce off their feelings and subconscious mind. Again I am not referring to women who have forsaken that K selection strategy (e.g. many Westerners).

And it's not just this content example. This point applies to content in general and how tuned in (engaged) do readers feel to what is being ranked highly for them.

How do you recover your active key?

I have the master key and the post key, but can't find an option to recover the other keys.

Ok, understood. But I think if there is a large number of reasons one would leave, this probably ranks in the low-end. Usability, lack of network effect, difficulty in enduring the emotional roller-coaster of seeming "rejection", difficulty in making money, etc etc, would probably rank in the higher end.

Btw, I think readers could be readers even without signing up. The model of traffic that we currently have (most steem-ians / steem-ers are registered & logged in, consuming all kinds of content), will probably change significantly as the content grows. Eventually most of the readers will be people coming from google, people that saw a link on fb/twitter/forum, etc etc. These will be coming to read just 1 link/1 page and probably some of the top comments. It's exactly how I use reddit right now (I don't have a reddit account, but I do click on links to read some reddit content). So at that point the ratio of unregistered/non-logged in to registered/logged-in users will tend to heavily favor the first. By then, it won't matter what the front page has because most traffic will be from people entering to read specific articles. Like it doesn't matter to me what the reddit front page has because I don't ever go there. I only click reddit links with articles. Some times /bitcoin too for bitcoin-related news...

So, when we reach a similar level in steem, what will matter then is

-how to make money from these visitors (I think I've cracked this by proposing a different treatment: only serving ads to the non-logged users while registered/logged users have an ad-free experience)
-how to incentivize them to register / participate as registered users to drop a few comments, hang around, etc.

The link I posted stated that in the east, money is even MORE important to women there, which is true.  It's just that they haven't given women, which are basically large, emotionally unstable and irrational children any real power, so they still have to go through the man to do things in society.

Sorry that is not true for the majority of the world's population. You may happen to be stuck in a self-destructing Western country.

My point is that it makes Steemit look like a bizzarro Western fornication cesspoll to people who outside the West, who were raised in traditional family structure and appreciation for marriage.

I am very aware of this culture clash, because on the Philippine dating sites you have a predominance of Western men who want to masturbate in webcam in front of these ladies who are serious about marriage. You can go read the profiles of the ladies and see every other profile is pissed off about this. The men's profiles are predominantly atheist or agnostic, and the ladies nearly all Christian and religious.

There is a lot of truth to that, seeing as how the male to female relationship is always completely asymmetrical in the woman's favor at the expense of the man:

http://www.theprimalmale.com/how-women-view-men/

Or to put it another way, just about everything women want is detrimental to the man's freedom or resources.  Putting women up on a pedestal just doesn't make a whole lot of sense.  It's kind of like humans who worship Satan even though Satan supposedly wants them to die.