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Topic: Steem pyramid scheme revealed - page 4. (Read 107069 times)

newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 0
May 17, 2018, 08:57:12 PM
I have heard and read so much disturbing stuff about the whaling in Steemit, that no new facts can surprise me.
The question is, whether this is just a small game on a low level, compared to the really useful platform for users they are creating.
If they create something better than facebook, who cares if they split some millions.  Smiley Smiley
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
May 17, 2018, 02:36:59 AM
I think in my own opinion there is nothing hidden under the sun. If the information you have giving us is true we will all know about it in the nearest future. But one thing I know about Steemit is that it's helping me do my blogging Smiley Smiley
member
Activity: 238
Merit: 11
May 16, 2018, 06:42:32 AM
There are many people that are angry with steem because they feel that steem is not being fair, but that may end up with the whole project failing like many others before if they don´t act.
newbie
Activity: 22
Merit: 0
May 15, 2018, 09:01:33 PM
I am not interested in this story and I believe there are worse things that we can't see yet in crypto. May LBRY Credits also do the same pyramid scheme? Smiley Smiley
newbie
Activity: 110
Merit: 0
May 15, 2018, 05:28:41 AM
In my opinion it will have a bright future even could also be the second crypto currency market capitalized.
full member
Activity: 672
Merit: 140
May 15, 2018, 05:19:52 AM
I have heard and read so much disturbing stuff about the whaling in Steemit, that no new facts can surprise me.
The question is, whether this is just a small game on a low level, compared to the really useful platform for users they are creating.
If they create something better than facebook, who cares if they split some millions.  Smiley

In my opinion you can´t compare facebook and steemit, is is 2 different platforms.
For me steemit is more blogging platform, and after Medium blocked all crypto reviews, project (some kind of crypto commercials) Steemit became a powerfull crypto tool.
I agree there are a lot or crypto garbage and other shitposts. But, if you compare it to facebook it will be thousands times less.

Resume: I still prefer Steemit!
member
Activity: 182
Merit: 17
https://www.cryptocarz.io/
May 15, 2018, 04:54:27 AM

Hello everybody. Who has a Steemit account? I try to write interesting articles, but it's very difficult to get through between the popular articles. If it's not difficult for you, could you rate my last article? https://steemit.com/qurrex/@misterpipka/new-promising-company-qurrex
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
May 14, 2018, 10:46:19 AM
The Larimers and their associates are pimps 2.0 pure and simple.  They are making money by promoting (aka upvoting) this trash to entice the weak-minded morons to come see their prostitutes.  All the while they are dumping their Steem Dollars into the market which is propped up by these same weak-minded suckers who are buying in.  Once the Larimers use these "girls" to work over the saps, they'll leave with their real money BTC/USD and the "girls" and suckers will be left with worthless "Steem Dollars" which can't even be cashed out for two years.
hero member
Activity: 568
Merit: 703
May 14, 2018, 10:38:32 AM
Given that Facebook is looking to potentially acquire an existing token technology, one might presume that there will be pump in the value of STEEM
given it is the most established social network and token on a blockchain at this time.

Could a buyout be coming? That speculation may possibly be enough of an excuse for a pump?

https://cointelegraph.com/news/facebook-exploring-making-its-own-cryptocurrency-media-report

https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/11/17344318/facebook-cryptocurrency-token-blockchain-report-david-marcus

I find the Steem Dollar with the 9% interest rate pretty interesting though, it definitely has a risk as everything else but it's hard to find a similar option that pays you that well

Actually SBD only pay interest when the value of SBD is near to or slightly less than $1, so currently they're not paying any interest.

newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 0
May 13, 2018, 11:56:18 AM
I find the Steem Dollar with the 9% interest rate pretty interesting though, it definitely has a risk as everything else but it's hard to find a similar option that pays you that well, I would say lending in Poloniex but you would be exposed to the volatility of each currency.
hero member
Activity: 1924
Merit: 538
May 12, 2018, 08:48:10 PM
Summary
So, we've seen that very few people - devs and early birds - hold most of the "Steem wealth" (top of the pyramid).
We've estabilished that the top wealthy users receive most of the newly generated wealth without contributing any kind of value. In order to cash out these tokens, they must convince new users to invest in the platform.

isn't it a more or less general law ?
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
May 09, 2018, 06:09:18 AM
I think that this may be one of the problems why people get upset with steem they just dont get how it works... The problem arises when those that dont get it start to shout how bad it is
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
May 08, 2018, 07:24:20 AM
To the extent there is a luck component based on what happens to be seen and what isn't, that will cancel out. Smarter voters will do better.
newbie
Activity: 70
Merit: 0
May 07, 2018, 07:13:24 AM
To tell if this a crypto-circle jerk or not, look at the number of women's articles being posted--this should also indicate how many women are staying--does the front page look like cosmo, a tech magazine, facebook, or a news feed? To me it looks like a little bit of everything--a little bit of a sausage fest, but who knows how many bloggers are playing modern day Robin Hood in the George Eliot manner (JK Rowling for the modern reader).
hero member
Activity: 568
Merit: 703
May 06, 2018, 01:15:56 PM

In order to cash out these tokens, they must convince new users to invest in the platform.


Or convince speculators to speculate that investors will buy STEEM for their sockpuppets to pay themselves a 4% per month compounded interest rate on top of the appreciation of the STEEM which might be going up to $15 this year.
However, it could also go to $0. That is speculation.

It’s sort of like an investment game.
Monopoly for the Internet.
And it’s real money at stake!


4% compounded monthly is +60% more STEEM per year.

The site is also effective as a money laundering tool because in theory the rewards don't come from the voter but rather from the blockchain which mints them.
There's no direct transfer of rewards.
Money laundering is a YUGE industry!
jr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 1
May 06, 2018, 01:04:44 PM
Summary
So, we've seen that very few people - devs and early birds - hold most of the "Steem wealth" (top of the pyramid).
We've estabilished that the top wealthy users receive most of the newly generated wealth without contributing any kind of value. In order to cash out these tokens, they must convince new users to invest in the platform.
hero member
Activity: 568
Merit: 703
May 06, 2018, 12:34:55 PM
it is interesting, why steemit dont use advertising selling on steemit platform? it can interested a lot of investors. Also it will help to support sbd withou steem dump.

Didn't I already tell you they only have 60,000 active users of which less than 10,000 may be real users and not bots.
And of those 10,000 maybe less than 1,000 that are not from India or other impoverished country.

What are advertisers going to sell from that traffic?

 
What can a fork accomplish that is different from the status quo if the underlying reward system encourages all users to abuse it (or be abused by it)
and can’t be fixed as you seemed to agree more or less with @anonymint recently in some comments recorded at Steemit which I previously linked to?

I guess they could remove the downvote feature so at least it is more difficult to cause content to be censored
although busy.org already seems to not hide entire blogs due to flagging.

I suppose users still have some protections there against censorship by mods that they don’t have here,
as evident by the fact that @anonymint doesn’t post here any more (at least not with his own account) and he instead posts at Steemit.


 
And the masses probably don't care about this aspect.


The masses care about the site being actually used and interesting and not just sockpuppets of the whales spamming the site in order to generate rewards from voting minted from the collective money supply.

There’s very few actual users on Steem.
It is a steady supply of people who signup and quit because they can’t earn anything and there’s no real interaction going on.
In 2 years, the active usership has grown only to 60,000, but only a few 1000s or less are actual unique human users who have been on the site for a significant amount of time.

Steem is not innovating on features that could drive the masses to want to use it.


Their Dtube/Dlive video apps have no possibility of wide-scale adoption because of the hen-egg critical mass dilemma
(and because Steem’s design doesn’t pay serving nodes for the bandwidth costs):

https://medium.com/vidme/goodbye-for-now-120b40becafa





why steemit dont use advertising selling on steemit platform?

Here is why:

  • Advertisers want to target specific audiences, which means a new platform that doesn’t store troves of personal user data is at a severe disadvantage relative to Facebook and Google, which combined control 60% of online ad spending in the U.S.
  • Most advertisers want their ads to complement “brand-safe” content. Unfortunately this is a subjective designation, which is difficult to define and enforce. Content, therefore, must be thoroughly reviewed and moderated — an expensive prospect. As YouTube recently learned with the “adpocalypse,” even a single poorly-moderated video can result in a PR disaster and undermine advertiser trust.
  • Few advertisers are willing to negotiate direct deals with platforms that don’t have enormous scale, meaning ad-revenue rates are lower for newer platforms. In turn, there’s less overall revenue to be shared with creators, which means creators are less likely to support newer platforms for a sustained period of time.


newbie
Activity: 58
Merit: 0
May 05, 2018, 01:32:13 AM
I agree that we (Western nerds) want to support a platform that stores content on a blockchain which no one can control, but did you know that a few guys control the Steem blockchain? Details matter. And the masses probably don't care about this aspect.
newbie
Activity: 22
Merit: 0
May 04, 2018, 05:20:27 AM
it is interesting, why steemit dont use advertising selling on steemit platform? it can interested a lot of investors. Also it will help to support sbd withou steem dump.
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
May 02, 2018, 09:01:09 AM
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