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Being rich is according to fate and predestination
Maybe not. It's gotta be your hard work and your will. Everything that you do is not always destined and your fate. If you don't do something about it you can't reach a certain goal. We make our goals and we make precautions for it to happen and be reached. As of being rich, you need hard work and a mindset of being one.
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Well, being rich or "successful" is seldom the result of one aspect of one's life. It is the combination of background, intelligence, appearance, and luck.......etc. Also, IQ is not the only kind of intelligence. Let's say sb has a IQ of 180 but has super low EQ and pisses off people all the time, he might never have access to a good investment thus never get the "chance" to get rich.
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Being rich is according to fate and predestination

On top of that, being rich isn't always in the right place or time but also if you are lucky. There are those who doesn't even have diploma or earned education, out of school people, or dropout but became rich and very successful in life.
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Yes it takes hard work and intelligence to get rich, some also get rich by chance but it is really difficult because there is no desire from the beginning.
If now I want to be rich a person like me who wants to do cripto currency trading business, which I have learned from the first time I know coin cripto currency, and now I have a little useful knowledge to be a cripto money trader. It's all thanks to my own intelligence that I can use for my own success.
It was not by chance but I did have my intention to be rich.
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For me I do not see being rich as just a single factor leading to it. I believe it to be contributory. Apart from intelligence, chance and predestination is very important. If somebody is predestined for being rich, circumstances would present itself to make the person step on it.
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Being rich is according to fate and predestination
It is a yes when according to fate but in predestination i dont think so. What you mean to say about predestination is people cant change their future. When they are born poor and in the future they are also poor is that what you want tyo point out. People has freedom, and they can change life they want to be in the future.
opportunity only knock once not twice so must be grabbed..i had some chance in my life,but let it go for some reason..being rich is not a destiny but a legacy.something that we must try hard to achieve and fulfill,

That's not truth, even life could not let you becamo rich, I think theres too much anarquist here, and theres people without a chance.
You're giving up too early? Your fate and your life is in your hands.

If you work hard then it will be paid off and you'll finally reap all those times that you've been with the use of your strength, sweat and blood. I believe in luck and if being rich is for you and you are destined to be, it will come but you have to do efforts for it.
Maybe OP only gains failure in life.thats why bitterness is what hes mouth talk.but in a point hes right not all of us given a chance,or maybe time for someone still on the process and will come soon
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The problem is we usually tend to alienate these wealthy people, something like thinking they might be very talented, they might be very lucky. The truth is they are also human. They have struggles, they have their own coping strategy, etc. They might even react to certain situations like we usually did. They are indifferent from us. So, in other words, it's fair to say that luck plays a big role with their achievement. Now, since there's proof, I'm quite sure with my thoughts now. This is from the wealth perspective though. What about sense of fulfillment, happiness, success (no matter how you define it)? I think I will stick to my opinion that these can be achieved with right living, not just by luck.

We don't alienate them. They alienate or rather highly insulate themselves from ordinary people. They have no tolerance in general for the public, or every day individuals. If it's not for PR it is a waste of time.

As someone who has done well for myself, I'm by no means "Rich" in terms of 100s of Millions of Dollars. But some of my clients are. Mid 9 Figures Levels.

I can say after having spent a lot of time working with them one on one; traveling with them; spending days/nights with them in locations and working on projects; they are generally have little tolerance for wasting time dealing with ordinary people.

This isn't to say that celebrities, high level executives, and high level government officials don't seem extremely friendly when they are in the situation where shaking hands, putting their other hand on your elbow or shoulder, leaning in, acting engaged, isn't something they do very well. But it is for the most part a role they play, and trust me they would rather be anywhere else. Like back on their yacht or on their horse farm with their family and other rich friends.

They also don't so much alienate themselves; rather insulate themselves. I've been in the unique position because of the type of work I do where they can't hire my firm/me without really being directly engaged, because of the disconnect that would occur and how that would lead to me providing them with a compromised product/level of service. They understand that.

But for most people they have to deal with; the truly wealthy insulate themselves with layers of management and assistance. I do this to some degree as well. I prefer to deal directly with my executive assistant on pretty much all matters both personal and business. And only get on the phone for the critical calls, attend meetings where my presence is necessary or with a client, because my time is better spent doing what I do.... such as posting to this forum Wink

But just to note, it's you, not them. (No insult or pun intended). You aren't alienating the super rich and talented people in the world; they just want nothing to do with common people (again not saying that's you); just in general.

Cheers!

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That's not truth, even life could not let you becamo rich, I think theres too much anarquist here, and theres people without a chance.
You're giving up too early? Your fate and your life is in your hands.

If you work hard then it will be paid off and you'll finally reap all those times that you've been with the use of your strength, sweat and blood. I believe in luck and if being rich is for you and you are destined to be, it will come but you have to do efforts for it.
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I strongly believe to it, not more than 60% of total rich people in the world got rich because of their talent or intelligence. I believe that fortune and luck is the another way for getting rich, example, you have a family business and you are a business management graduate that you are the leader of it, business went wrong and bankrupted because you didn't get enough luck or the path is not really yours.
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getting rich can indeed be determined by the luck factor but actually get rich it is because hard work, never give up, and able to see the opportunity (innovative). innovative we must have a smart brain so I think to be rich also determined from intelligence.
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The problem is we usually tend to alienate these wealthy people, something like thinking they might be very talented, they might be very lucky. The truth is they are also human. They have struggles, they have their own coping strategy, etc. They might even react to certain situations like we usually did. They are indifferent from us. So, in other words, it's fair to say that luck plays a big role with their achievement. Now, since there's proof, I'm quite sure with my thoughts now. This is from the wealth perspective though. What about sense of fulfillment, happiness, success (no matter how you define it)? I think I will stick to my opinion that these can be achieved with right living, not just by luck.
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being rich not determined by fate because every people can change their fate but indeed there is no guarantee smart people will being rich people because if they can't utilize every opportunities to makes them rich then smart people will never being rich but this is not fully true because i consider for those who able to utilize every opportunities to making money and being rich people i think they're also pretty smart
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In my opinion, I don't really agree being rich is determined by chance rather than intelligence or talent, take Cristiano Ronaldo who is one of the best footballer in the world as example, he is one of the richest football player in the world due to his talented skills in the game.

Bill gates does have great intelligence to be able to create Microsoft and he also became the world richest man because of his own creation.

But without Alex Ferguson giving Cristiano Ronaldo a chance to be included in the first team of Manchester United in the past, Cristiano Ronaldo might not be able to gain his fame and popularity in such a short period of time so chance is also a very important aspect, and I would say being rich is actually determined by chance, intelligence and talent.

I absolutely agree with your own opinion Sir. Being rich not determine by chance rather than intelligence or talent. A good example Mr Bill Gates the person who become rich using his talent. The example of the person who become rich because of the chance are those person with skill with the help of other person in giving his chance to explore his talent.
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Being rich is according to fate and predestination
Hmmmm..



They say that chance only knock ones you have to grab it but also you have to do something you have to work on it wisely.
Exactly and on point.

I have always felt people who achieved success where mainly in the right place right time
and with right decision.


That's not truth, even life could not let you becamo rich, I think theres too much anarquist here, and theres people without a chance.
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I think timing and place play a large part of the "chance" of success of any person or endeavor.

Take any rags to riches story; and displace that person's birth by even 10 years, and the rise to riches would have never been realized.

I launched a start up back in 2005. I launched in a city which had service providers which offered the "service industry" I was entering into; but not with the "angle or approach" which I took.

There was a lot of media and video content companies; but a huge void of creativity. The true creatives went west to Los Angeles or North to NYC.

So there was basically a lot of "terrible content" being produced here at that time.

I launched in with a very sleek new concept, solid branding, promoting our firm as the the leader in "Creative content that captures and inspires the imaginations of our customer's audiences". That sort of thing.

All my competitors offered "Video and Multimedia Services Since 1992". So it really was a "Blue Ocean", where I made my own market and took ownership of it.

Now in the years to follow; we put a lot of firms out of business, as we grew into a multi-million dollar firm with a full time staff of 20 and 10k sq feet of space.

By this point our competitors who were still in business were rapidly re-branding, following suit to what we were offering. And our competition, ended up getting tougher as more and more people simply advertised themselves the way we did.

- So regardless if you're talking about someone like Bill Gates, or Zuckerberg being displaced by 10 years; had I come to this city 10 years earlier (born earlier) or later; the opportunity likely would not have presented itself due to the market changes that happened between 2005 and 2015 (such as moving from SD to HD).

Sort of a microcosm example; but if you've got the talent; you have to do your absolute best; everything you can, to be ready, for when, and if the time comes- for your chance... and do everything you can to make that chance happen.

Cheers!

Strato
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In my opinion, I don't really agree being rich is determined by chance rather than intelligence or talent, take Cristiano Ronaldo who is one of the best footballer in the world as example, he is one of the richest football player in the world due to his talented skills in the game.

Bill gates does have great intelligence to be able to create Microsoft and he also became the world richest man because of his own creation.

But without Alex Ferguson giving Cristiano Ronaldo a chance to be included in the first team of Manchester United in the past, Cristiano Ronaldo might not be able to gain his fame and popularity in such a short period of time so chance is also a very important aspect, and I would say being rich is actually determined by chance, intelligence and talent.
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"Study says being rich is determined by chance rather than intelligence or talent"

yeas you can get rich quicly but same time you will go brke ass fast as you become rich.
The jay is not buy lambo but be able to keep this lambo over time and here we have problem.
Stupid people will get rect over time by advisors ext.
there is no easy way to obtain rael wealt and keep it.
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There are lots of people born into a wealthy family or inherited money. So I could see that this percentage could be high as compared to people that actually have to work hard to become wealthy. There is also a percentage of people that just happen to invest in the right stock or buy a winning lottery ticket but I think this percentage is probably relatively low as compared to just being born wealthy.
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Intelligent people are not willing to take risks and not willing to try risks!

The risk of what? Being rich? Everybody wants to be rich.

Yes, being rich requires you to take risk. You won't become rich if you are working a job in some company, you need to start a business(I'm just assuming the most common way to become rich) and starting a business has a great lot of risks involved. An above average individual who is comfortable in his position wouldn't be willing to take that risk.
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They say that chance only knock ones you have to grab it but also you have to do something you have to work on it wisely. Chance combined it with intelligence it will be better a chance to be rich.
Yeah actually it should be done like that , otherwise this would sounds like being rich just about lucky or not. Mostly intelligent person know what to do for best and some of them prefer to leave the rich dream to serving people to make a better world to live , pretty different when you are an ambitious person , you do know the chance and take it whatever the consequences, just hoping to have a lot of money as many as you can , which I personally it wasn't smart move ideally.
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