Topic: Success or Fail? - Talking about Gambling as a major income - page 52. (Read 6781 times)

After reading your post, I can clarify my target more clear. I posted three topics including this one, the previous two about raising fund and member scheme, people take it as scam. I understand. But am still having impetus to post. 1, money, of course money, I want to raise money to build a gambler community for fees before they lose everything. If I success, casinos should hate me, not gamblers or ordinary people. 2, am the gambler, actually all gamblers don’t want money, they want the feeling of win money. My second target is super selfish if you think it deep, I want to save someone from gambling addiction, then they will be grateful whole life because of me. This is the only one feeling can beat my gambling addiction. If I keep doing things like this, I can quit gambling for real.

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This is truly words from honest man. If we can control self in absolute rational and 100% non-innocence, could be super man in any fields. We gamble because we want to win. So naive and innocence because gamblers still believe shit like that. Hard to distinguish between want and need? For gamblers, it is. For a clever 6yrs kid, they can tell exactly the difference between them.

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Self-control is the only key to survive for real gamblers. I have seen people gamble with the food money. Scam, steal, rob are not news in gambling industry. More than 95% people are just ordinary guys. Demand them to do extreme self-control is a joke and never gonna happen. But 100% people have Speculative psychology. This is why casinos is always a good business from the start to the end of mankind.

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I am an honest man. So, I have no confidence to be the top 5% people in ability or courage. Why not do some business with gamblers in honest and more safety way.

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Not only in gambling but in every field a person wants to be the best so no one will share his 100% strategy with anyone.  If someone is seen sharing a potential strategy, then there must be an interest in it for them. So trusting someone blindly is the greatest folly.  So always control yourself and research yourself then do any work if there is finance involved. Otherwise of course you will be in danger at some point and will never be able to acquire good skills if you are dependent on others

But there's always the temptation to think of gambling as a job and income source when you have successive wins and you think you crack the code or you arrive that you are good at analysis, there's always a time that you think that you can beat the house and from there you are misled that there is more to gambling than entertainment, this is a trap.

WoW. I really want to be a friend with you. You are the best one to read and summarise my points until now. And you have a clean mind on gambling. Very beautiful brother. Thank you.

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Yes. Only scammer can sell ‘100% win’ strategy. Take the win like a bonus in life is a very good point.

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There are no rules for success or loss in gambling, the more you can control yourself and relax, the better you will be at gambling. But if you want to avoid losing something big in gambling, you must choose gambling as a place of entertainment. And at all times it should be avoided thinking that gambling can be one's profession. If you are into gambling for fun and if you have good luck and can make accurate predictions you can win big then this will act as a big bonus for you.

Happy to see the post like yrs. If you calculate the money I lose, you are right. But at this moment, you are wrong. I can feel my self-control ability increasing, am trying to make a perfect scheme, struggling hard……am a fighter now. No idea about the timeline, maybe next month or next year or next life…I won’t give up. I like gamble brother. Like the feeling.

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Happy for you brother. You find your own balance between gambling and life. Sticky on that.

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I'm frequently gambling almost every day, but I don't consider gambling a job because it's very risky. A job is a source of steady income without any risk involved or wagering any money. There's no guarantee for success in gambling because all games are designed with house advantage. People that consider this as a job will always struggle no matter how professional they are.

This a failure for sure.

Nope. This is the truth in our world. Just no people will say that in public. I don’t want to play ‘political correctness’  trick. People never jump out Jungle Law. Stronger and smarter ones occupy the largest money and prettiest women. Don’t be childish bro. Grow up. Most of gamblers are truly slaves of the casinos. The boss of casinos can ask them to do anything. Pig will attack you if you make them mad. But these slaves? Think about it.

Gambling is entertainment, we admit it. So if we are not professional gamblers, we better not try it because it requires a lot of things that can be difficult for us to learn. So it's better for us to think of gambling as entertainment where we can play gambling and stop when we feel enough. If you want to become a professional gambler, you have to learn a lot of that stuff and I think you already know it.

Your second opinion that there is no sure way to win in gambling or a 100% profit strategy is true because gambling is a matter of luck. If it's sports betting, maybe the strategy can work but won't win 100% of the time. So it's better not to think too much about getting a win from gambling.

And the third opinion is that no one forces us to gamble. Only we want to try gambling because we are curious to know what it feels like to gamble and feel the sensation of winning and losing. So we choose whether we want to gamble or not and must know that the consequence of gambling is losing money.

And I assume also that for that long of been in gambling, you find yourselves as a loser. It means that it is hard to rely on ourselves into gambling and consider this as a source of income. If we are going to gamble, we are aware that this $1,000 in our pocket has no assurance to multiply but possibly it becomes $0. We better expect to lose rather than to win but of course, it is much better to think that we gamble because we want to, not because we chase to win big otherwise, we got only disappointed.

Of course brother. Trading and investing are also gambling for financial conservatives. It’s all just games for people. You like high profit or becoming  millionaires over the night, that’s your choice. Or find a 50k 9-5 job. It’s still the choice for people. We pay what we believe. Simple question. To be honest, I hate scammers and will fuck them back when I have chance. But, if some adults give money to scammers, that’s their choice. We cannot judge. People make fault everyday, and it will last whole life. Stay safe.

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Very glad to discuss gambling in this way. First of all, scheme is just an idea from my gambling experience these years. As an adult, I respect you choose any side of this. Right or wrong, trust or scam, black or red……you make your own choice at your risk just like gambling. All my major points  has been clarified in the content. Am just trying to supply my angle to gambling. This is fully personal advice sharing. You believe it, why not join me. Friends could help a lot sometimes. If you don’t, walk away since we are strangers anyway.

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Gambling is not a do-or-die thing, and as such, one should know the limit to which he or she will gamble. If you are gambling from your own pocket and earning, then you should not pay more attention to what people say in general; it's actually not their business; it's your life you are living to the fullest and not theirs.

The best advice is the one an individual gives to itself. Even with the above-listed opinions, some people still have their own personal ways of doing things. Some odds, which most people sell online, most times already look too good to be true, but people still buy their games and stake them high; if they win, they will; if they lose, they lose. Most gamblers like higher-risk gambling because it's part of their fun type of taking risks, and if they win, they win big.

And as a result, I'm left with a big, fat question mark hovering above my head.  


The OP specifically stated, "My scheme is working on that. But it looks like so scam to many dudes, so you judge it at your own risk." and "You believe you pay. I don't believe, just leave. Keep life simple. No judge to the buyer or seller."
I was simply curious about the "scheme" he was selling?

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Seriously, are you drunk or something? What the hell are you talking about? 

Brother, I don’t want to convince you or sell my ideas to you. If you are the boss running a casino, you will know there is at least 2-3% people winning money from casino in long run by the means we don’t know. Does not matter you believe it or not, this is true fact in our world. The hired streamers equal scammer to me. They lie to poor gamblers everyday and supply them a fake hope. They are just pets of casinos. My interest is the method how the 2-3% people can do that in the long term. Not easy, but am trying to figure out. If you travel or read a lot, you will find out we live in a super diverse world. Some people tough and smart like god, some are just pigs, maybe pig are more clever than some of.

Hmm. Having those "opinions" and reading them makes me feel like you don't understand what "opinion" is. Because like your opinion 2, it's a fact. It's not an opinion. That's not how opinions work. The fact that it is "you" who is gambling, pertaining to your 3rd opinion, makes it seem like you are trying to steer away from the truth and accepting that it could be attributed to other than yourself.

What the heck is the connection of scammers here? Can you clarify that OP?

You're the gambler involved and I don't think welcoming all other people's opinions is a good idea for you to determine what to do for your gambling lifestyle, if you think gambling can be well profitable enough to depends your earnings from it then why not shoot the first strike and see what might be the outcome of it and learn this by yourself, taking other people's opinions may not be a perfect match for you because we can all have different ideas and way of approach.

Wow I think that FatFork went too far with his deductions here I will not be the one to cast the first stone, because I also tend to think beyond sometimes and imagine ulterior motives behind the words, but in this case I don't think there was sufficient reason to suspect.

Or maybe you've already seen everything, and although it may not seem like it to the neophyte, this is the way to start said schemes?

About the OP, Opinion (Option?) One worries me: Professional Gambler? isn't that like being a Professional Singer? if you don't have a manager, sponsorship, different ways of income like channels in social media... I don't think many people is able to beat the system long term without such a help, so I would focus my efforts elsewhere if that's not your plan.

In addition, it somehow seems incompatible with Opinion (Option?) Two: if there is no sure win methods (apart from what I said before), how could one make a living as a professional on his own?

Trading and investment can be your major income but gambling is not, never.

It's hard to beat the market with trading but if you are disciplined enough, experienced enough and only open your trading position when it is safe with less risk to get loss, big chance to get profit, you can make trading as your source of income. You only need to trade a few times a month to get profit which is your income.

Investment will require a longer waiting time to harvest but if you can pick good assets, you will harvest good results.

Gambling is very different than trading and investment. It's a most risky because it's game of probability and it is controlled by gambling sites, game providers. Gambling responsibly is hard to do and I don't believe many people can make gambling as a source of income. Such people succeed in gambling would be less than people succeed in trading or investment.

Yes brother. Gamble for fun should be kept in mind whole life for everyone. My point is so many people including me walked so deep in gambling hell or have heavy addiction. You just cannot tell these people quit, then they say okay I quit. If things went that way, that would be so good.

Wait a sec, "after gambling so many years" are you trying to achieve a profession in gambling field? Like those people who are paid to play gambling tournaments like poker? Or maybe what you mean about being a professional gambler is having the ability to generate profit daily and it's considered your primary source of income? Please correct me if I'm wrong, because if that's what you mean, I'm quite sure it's not gonna work. Being a professional gambler, means you're paid to gamble and you're not solely depending on the winning profit, win or lose you've got guaranteed income.