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turvarya

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Quote from: inBitweTrust on November 17, 2014, 10:49:47 AM

Quote from: rollingMyCar on November 17, 2014, 10:20:24 AM

ok.

if so is not good for us because we can never see the source code....

if i understand well

no? Huh

No, its completely ope source and will remain so. The source code is on github.

He meant, that somebody could make a clone that isn't open source anymore, as far as he understood MIT-license.

inBitweTrust

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Quote from: rollingMyCar on November 17, 2014, 10:20:24 AM

ok.

if so is not good for us because we can never see the source code....

if i understand well

no? Huh

No, its completely open source and will remain so. The source code is on github.

rollingMyCar

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Quote from: harrymmmm on November 15, 2014, 02:52:08 PM

Quote from: rollingMyCar on November 15, 2014, 02:04:17 PM

Quote from: harrymmmm on November 14, 2014, 05:07:47 PM

Quote from: Dajve on November 14, 2014, 12:14:08 PM

Quote from: luckypyrate on November 13, 2014, 12:22:41 PM

Quote from: Lethn on November 13, 2014, 12:20:22 PM

OpenBazaar shares would ruin the whole point of it being open source and decentralised, if you want shares then get the OpenBazaar code and start your own company.

That's my thoughts on the matter

I'm sure people will do this. People are always greedy and will want to make money from this great idea. Hopefully the market will dictate which way these kind of marketplaces will go and how they will develop without centralised entities or people taking their cut.

This is expected, and in fact, is the reason the licence was changed from GPL to MIT recently.

Plz can you explain differenze between GPL and MIT license in a few words?
Thanks

GPL use in a project requires all code mods to be GPL/public. MIT doesn't.
There are exceptions, but basically that means a group could use OB in a commercial product without being required to contribute their whole project (or even the OB enhancements) to the public domain.

ok.

if so is not good for us because we can never see the source code....

if i understand well

no? Huh

Lethn

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I don't speak for OpenBazaar but I would hate to see an entire network shut down over a few psychopaths when the rest of the people using it are just using it for relatively innocent purposes in comparison, I'm sure the community will inform somebody if that kind of shit happens but a true free market should never be jeopardised because of the actions of a few.

If you've looked around I'm sure you realise that the media have a habit of painting us all as terrorists, drug dealers and paedophiles when we're quite obviously not.

inBitweTrust

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Quote from: CryptoGuu on November 17, 2014, 07:34:36 AM

do OpenBazaar have any solution for child pornography or terrorism funding?

Terrorists are much better funded with fiat currencies as they can function anonymously and have ways of better controlling their currency to support their efforts. Terrorism is inappropriately used to describe actions of opponents, lunatics, and small gangs when it should also be applied to states as well. The DEA and SWAT team attacking a family and stealing all of their assets for consuming a plant peacefully do qualify to be labeled terrorists as well. Thus supporting Bitcoin and OpenBazaar can lead to a reduction in terrorism as it makes their efforts futile and possibly lead to decriminalizing more drugs in the future.

Child Pornography, murders for hire, and terrorism all has to be handled with good old fashion investigations and sting operations. Frankly, I could care less if perverts are jerking off to underage cartoons or simulated pictures of children. I think its disgusting but it doesn't harm any children directly. If any real children are used we can investigate into it and track them down based on the photos themselves providing leads. We can investigate murders for hire by a sting operation where any bounty hunters are arrested or killed defensively as soon as they attack the bait.

CryptoGuu

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do OpenBazaar have any solution for child pornography or terrorism funding?

slaveforanunnak1

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thanks for clearing that up.

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Quote from: BazaarDev on November 13, 2014, 11:33:27 AM

Quote from: juicyjuice87 on November 06, 2014, 05:27:33 PM

Why couldn't one buy shares in this? Such as freemarket did. Would have been win win

^coming soon... Cool

Hey everyone, Sam Patterson here from the OpenBazaar team.

We admittedly don't have a very good presence here in the forums, we are mostly in our /r/openbazaar subreddit or on IRC. So claims like the quote above should be treated very skeptically; this appears to be a scammer.

We aren't offering shares, or any investment of any kind. There are no fees for using OpenBazaar - that's one of the cores benefits of it - so it's unclear how anyone could get a return on investment. We do take donations, but aren't soliciting them, we don't really need them at this point. If we do, we'll do a proper crowdfunding campaign.

Happy to answer questions about OpenBazaar is anyone has them. We're really excited to see how much the community has supported us over the past few months, it's been a lot of work but very rewarding.

inBitweTrust

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Quote from: crazy-pilot on November 15, 2014, 03:17:44 PM

No, not really. The act of burning coins is buying trust. The amount of coins that will (realistically) potentially be burned is much less then the amount of coins that are mined via the miners every day.

Yes, I understand the reason for open bazaar burning coins. I was merely suggesting what the economic effect of destroying bitcoins .

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SmartFi - EARN, LEND & TRADE

Quote from: inBitweTrust on November 15, 2014, 01:01:41 PM

Quote from: Flashman on November 15, 2014, 12:11:14 PM

The coin burn is worrying me also. Having a limited number of bitcoins = good idea.... having very limited number of bitcoins = not good idea.

There is no limits to how many units we can create with further decimalization. The 21million cap only protects us against the theft of inflation. Even if 20 million BTC is burned we will be fine.

The act of burning coins is simply the act of giving the community a gift of deflation(increasing their spending power).

No, not really. The act of burning coins is buying trust. The amount of coins that will (realistically) potentially be burned is much less then the amount of coins that are mined via the miners every day.

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Quote from: inBitweTrust on November 15, 2014, 01:19:07 PM

Quote from: Flashman on November 15, 2014, 01:17:37 PM

Things can be mathematically sound, but psychologically discomforting ;-)

Agreed, but luckily we can adapt by becoming used to other nomenclature like milibits and bits in the future.

See? You're doing it already.
How can a millibit be bigger than a bit?
My head is still exploding...

harrymmmm

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Quote from: rollingMyCar on November 15, 2014, 02:04:17 PM

Quote from: harrymmmm on November 14, 2014, 05:07:47 PM

Quote from: Dajve on November 14, 2014, 12:14:08 PM

Quote from: luckypyrate on November 13, 2014, 12:22:41 PM

Quote from: Lethn on November 13, 2014, 12:20:22 PM

OpenBazaar shares would ruin the whole point of it being open source and decentralised, if you want shares then get the OpenBazaar code and start your own company.

That's my thoughts on the matter

I'm sure people will do this. People are always greedy and will want to make money from this great idea. Hopefully the market will dictate which way these kind of marketplaces will go and how they will develop without centralised entities or people taking their cut.

This is expected, and in fact, is the reason the licence was changed from GPL to MIT recently.

Plz can you explain differenze between GPL and MIT license in a few words?
Thanks

GPL use in a project requires all code mods to be GPL/public. MIT doesn't.
There are exceptions, but basically that means a group could use OB in a commercial product without being required to contribute their whole project (or even the OB enhancements) to the public domain.

rollingMyCar

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Quote from: harrymmmm on November 14, 2014, 05:07:47 PM

Quote from: Dajve on November 14, 2014, 12:14:08 PM

Quote from: luckypyrate on November 13, 2014, 12:22:41 PM

Quote from: Lethn on November 13, 2014, 12:20:22 PM

OpenBazaar shares would ruin the whole point of it being open source and decentralised, if you want shares then get the OpenBazaar code and start your own company.

That's my thoughts on the matter

I'm sure people will do this. People are always greedy and will want to make money from this great idea. Hopefully the market will dictate which way these kind of marketplaces will go and how they will develop without centralised entities or people taking their cut.

This is expected, and in fact, is the reason the licence was changed from GPL to MIT recently.

Plz can you explain differenze between GPL and MIT license in a few words?
Thanks

inBitweTrust

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Quote from: Flashman on November 15, 2014, 01:17:37 PM

Things can be mathematically sound, but psychologically discomforting ;-)

Agreed, but luckily we can adapt by becoming used to other nomenclature like milibits and bits in the future.

Flashman

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Hodl!

Things can be mathematically sound, but psychologically discomforting ;-)

inBitweTrust

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Quote from: Flashman on November 15, 2014, 12:11:14 PM

The coin burn is worrying me also. Having a limited number of bitcoins = good idea.... having very limited number of bitcoins = not good idea.

There is no limits to how many units we can create with further decimalization. The 21million cap only protects us against the theft of inflation. Even if 20 million BTC is burned we will be fine.

The act of burning coins is simply the act of giving the community a gift of deflation(increasing their spending power).

Flashman

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Hodl!

The coin burn is worrying me also. Having a limited number of bitcoins = good idea.... having very limited number of bitcoins = not good idea.

How fast is this going to "unmine" them, if we posit that it becomes as successful, though not identical, to SR 1.0 ?

I know we've got some natural attrition due to mistakes accidents and carelessness, but if it munched as little as 5% a year, I would tend to think that that made bitcoin look like not having a long term future. (Until the last million or so left were never traded or spent and used purely as value store/reserve, at which point mining would be pointless, no tx, and shit would die.)

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Quote from: inBitweTrust on November 14, 2014, 02:03:50 PM

Quote from: Rampton on November 14, 2014, 01:05:18 PM

Is OpenBazzar going to be completely without fees or will a small amount be distributed to the people who host or run it similarly like the bitcoin miners get a share?

No fees, besides any BTC miner fee or arbitration fee if there is a dispute.

I think this is one of the best points of Open Bazaar. Sites like ebay and also black market sites such as Silk Road charged too much in fees and bonds etc.

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I'm really quite sane!

Quote from: Dajve on November 14, 2014, 12:14:08 PM

Quote from: luckypyrate on November 13, 2014, 12:22:41 PM

Quote from: Lethn on November 13, 2014, 12:20:22 PM

OpenBazaar shares would ruin the whole point of it being open source and decentralised, if you want shares then get the OpenBazaar code and start your own company.

That's my thoughts on the matter

I'm sure people will do this. People are always greedy and will want to make money from this great idea. Hopefully the market will dictate which way these kind of marketplaces will go and how they will develop without centralised entities or people taking their cut.

There are no fees to use OB so any shares that would be sold would be worthless.

OB's only source of revenue is donations from the community, however such donations would almost certainly stop once shares are sold.

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Quote from: Dajve on November 14, 2014, 12:14:08 PM

Quote from: luckypyrate on November 13, 2014, 12:22:41 PM

Quote from: Lethn on November 13, 2014, 12:20:22 PM

OpenBazaar shares would ruin the whole point of it being open source and decentralised, if you want shares then get the OpenBazaar code and start your own company.

That's my thoughts on the matter

I'm sure people will do this. People are always greedy and will want to make money from this great idea. Hopefully the market will dictate which way these kind of marketplaces will go and how they will develop without centralised entities or people taking their cut.

This is expected, and in fact, is the reason the licence was changed from GPL to MIT recently.

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