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When is it going to launch at a full scale? It would be great to have an ebay like place for cryptoworld.
OpenBazaar is a really exciting concept for me for a couple of reasons. I'm really sick of sites like ebay's fees, and I also think people should be able to safely buy drugs if they so wish.
Been trying to access OpenBazaar for weeks using Windows/Virtual Player/Ubuntu with no success.
Am finally seeing 80 stores!
If you only see 1 or 2 two stores you are probably not connected.
This link may help:
http://www.reddit.com/r/OpenBazaar/comments/2ltdf7/thank_so_much_guys_beta_30_windows_im_a_happy/
Am finally seeing 80 stores!
If you only see 1 or 2 two stores you are probably not connected.
This link may help:
http://www.reddit.com/r/OpenBazaar/comments/2ltdf7/thank_so_much_guys_beta_30_windows_im_a_happy/
I got up to 370 stores last night.. non loaded
Surprised drug trade is even being talked about, still.
The case for OB is really, really clear. Go here, think about some things around your house, maybe something you make for a hobby or business, and see what Paypal/eBay'd charge you.
Just to throw out some examples (fixed price auction, no add-ons) for the exceptionally lazy:
$6.99 jams & jellies business = 21.46% fee per individual unit, 14.33% per six-pack
$10 Playstation code = 18.9% fee per unit, 14.1% per $50 card
Fujifilm "Instant Minis" = 16.12% fee per 20-pack, 14.34% per 50-pack.
Until you start selling items over $3500 each, the fee is >10%. Is eBay really providing enough service to justify 10%, much less 14-22%? Absolutely not, unless you count their customer acquisition costs, which is really just a fee to raise barrier to entry for better products; feeding the beast.
Let's look at two widget businesses.
Jim's Widgets sells 500 units of CheapWidget each month @ $5.99 each.
Bill's Widgets sells 250 units of PremiumWidget each month @ $25.99 each.
On eBay, Jim would be losing out on $685 in revenue from his $2995 potential. Bill would be losing out on $987.50 revenue from $6497.50 potential. Those are pretty massive losses. Medicare/SS taxes don't even come close to that %. OTOH, OB charges nothing; zero; 0%; $0.00; BTC0.00000000.
It seems completely reasonable for people selling to give a 2% donation of revenues to the developers, and 2% to a dedicated customer acquisitions NFP which literally just spends money advertising OB. This would still be a %fee lower than eBay charges on $20,000 items. On, say, $20, this is practically robbing the OB team compared to current solutions. What OB lacks (like pretty much all FLOSS software) is a good way of making donations painless and fair on the user's part. Right now, you can't just say, "oh, I want to donate 2% of all sales to Jim, 2% to Bill," right? Same problem Core and Armory have and why developers are now answering to higher powers, which, while it may not necessarily turn out bad, is clearly inferior to consistent decentralized donations.
The case for OB is really, really clear. Go here, think about some things around your house, maybe something you make for a hobby or business, and see what Paypal/eBay'd charge you.
Just to throw out some examples (fixed price auction, no add-ons) for the exceptionally lazy:
$6.99 jams & jellies business = 21.46% fee per individual unit, 14.33% per six-pack
$10 Playstation code = 18.9% fee per unit, 14.1% per $50 card
Fujifilm "Instant Minis" = 16.12% fee per 20-pack, 14.34% per 50-pack.
Until you start selling items over $3500 each, the fee is >10%. Is eBay really providing enough service to justify 10%, much less 14-22%? Absolutely not, unless you count their customer acquisition costs, which is really just a fee to raise barrier to entry for better products; feeding the beast.
Let's look at two widget businesses.
Jim's Widgets sells 500 units of CheapWidget each month @ $5.99 each.
Bill's Widgets sells 250 units of PremiumWidget each month @ $25.99 each.
On eBay, Jim would be losing out on $685 in revenue from his $2995 potential. Bill would be losing out on $987.50 revenue from $6497.50 potential. Those are pretty massive losses. Medicare/SS taxes don't even come close to that %. OTOH, OB charges nothing; zero; 0%; $0.00; BTC0.00000000.
It seems completely reasonable for people selling to give a 2% donation of revenues to the developers, and 2% to a dedicated customer acquisitions NFP which literally just spends money advertising OB. This would still be a %fee lower than eBay charges on $20,000 items. On, say, $20, this is practically robbing the OB team compared to current solutions. What OB lacks (like pretty much all FLOSS software) is a good way of making donations painless and fair on the user's part. Right now, you can't just say, "oh, I want to donate 2% of all sales to Jim, 2% to Bill," right? Same problem Core and Armory have and why developers are now answering to higher powers, which, while it may not necessarily turn out bad, is clearly inferior to consistent decentralized donations.
OpenBazaar is cool but is not good enough.
It's early days. Come back in 6 months.
When does it actually go live? I think this needs to become operational as soon as possible. It's going to be an interesting experiment but one that is badly needed due to the nature of the free market. I'm also interested how they will deal with items that really shouldn't be on there like the worst kind of stuff.
The full release will be rolled out by early 2015. They will not have any ability to censor any of the listings that will be posted on the network, even though they dont intend for OB to be used for illicit goods
Sorry, but it is just BS, that so many people think: "Oh, it's something new, it must be just for illegal stuff, because they could use XYZ for legal stuff"
People don't want to use Ebay anymore. People want as less central authorities as possible. So, P2P-Networks are spreading everywhere. That doesn't mean, this networks are outside of legal jurisdiction.
Agreed, it seems quite simple for the FBI to set up sting operations on OpenBazar. They set up a fake store front, sell fake drugs, and wait for you to pick them up at your house. They only need to do this a few times, perhaps only pretend they are doing it, for it to instill doubt in people.
OpenBazaar is cool but is not good enough.
It's early days. Come back in 6 months.
When does it actually go live? I think this needs to become operational as soon as possible. It's going to be an interesting experiment but one that is badly needed due to the nature of the free market. I'm also interested how they will deal with items that really shouldn't be on there like the worst kind of stuff.
The full release will be rolled out by early 2015. They will not have any ability to censor any of the listings that will be posted on the network, even though they dont intend for OB to be used for illicit goods
Sorry, but it is just BS, that so many people think: "Oh, it's something new, it must be just for illegal stuff, because they could use XYZ for legal stuff"
People don't want to use Ebay anymore. People want as less central authorities as possible. So, P2P-Networks are spreading everywhere. That doesn't mean, this networks are outside of legal jurisdiction.
OpenBazaar is cool but is not good enough.
It's early days. Come back in 6 months.
When does it actually go live? I think this needs to become operational as soon as possible. It's going to be an interesting experiment but one that is badly needed due to the nature of the free market. I'm also interested how they will deal with items that really shouldn't be on there like the worst kind of stuff.
Wut?
We've had linux running for months. Mac and windows installers are a recent addition.
Items that 'really shouldn't be on there' will be on there since your opinion about that won't matter. You will be free to not look at them though.
The current version will be susceptible to law enforcement 'opinion', but that won't be the case forever.
From what I can tell only a few merchants have products listed.
The rest are just tests.
The rest are just tests.
I got mine running and it loads 40+ merchants, but when I click on one it just says "loading merchant" indefinitely now.
When run it and open my router upnp port forwarding it lists ports other than the recommend "12345", which I find strange. Then when I add manually add port 12345 it still doesn't work, so I dunno.
When run it and open my router upnp port forwarding it lists ports other than the recommend "12345", which I find strange. Then when I add manually add port 12345 it still doesn't work, so I dunno.
type the following into notepad:
start openbazaar.exe -j --disable-stun-check --server-ip XX.XXX.XX.XXX
where XX.XXX.XX.XXX is your IP address
then rename the txt file as a .bat file and place this file in the same folder as openbazaar.exe
create a shortcut to this bat file and place it on your desktop
start openbazaar.exe -j --disable-stun-check --server-ip XX.XXX.XX.XXX
where XX.XXX.XX.XXX is your IP address
then rename the txt file as a .bat file and place this file in the same folder as openbazaar.exe
create a shortcut to this bat file and place it on your desktop
Been trying to access OpenBazaar for weeks using Windows/Virtual Player/Ubuntu with no success.
Am finally seeing 80 stores!
If you only see 1 or 2 two stores you are probably not connected.
This link may help:
http://www.reddit.com/r/OpenBazaar/comments/2ltdf7/thank_so_much_guys_beta_30_windows_im_a_happy/
Am finally seeing 80 stores!
If you only see 1 or 2 two stores you are probably not connected.
This link may help:
http://www.reddit.com/r/OpenBazaar/comments/2ltdf7/thank_so_much_guys_beta_30_windows_im_a_happy/
I don't get where to put that command line...
Been trying to access OpenBazaar for weeks using Windows/Virtual Player/Ubuntu with no success.
Am finally seeing 80 stores!
If you only see 1 or 2 two stores you are probably not connected.
This link may help:
http://www.reddit.com/r/OpenBazaar/comments/2ltdf7/thank_so_much_guys_beta_30_windows_im_a_happy/
Am finally seeing 80 stores!
If you only see 1 or 2 two stores you are probably not connected.
This link may help:
http://www.reddit.com/r/OpenBazaar/comments/2ltdf7/thank_so_much_guys_beta_30_windows_im_a_happy/
OpenBazaar is cool but is not good enough.
It's early days. Come back in 6 months.
When does it actually go live? I think this needs to become operational as soon as possible. It's going to be an interesting experiment but one that is badly needed due to the nature of the free market. I'm also interested how they will deal with items that really shouldn't be on there like the worst kind of stuff.
Just found this thread, and watching ... interesting 
me too
Just found this thread, and watching ... interesting
OpenBazaar is cool but is not good enough.
It's early days. Come back in 6 months.
When does it actually go live? I think this needs to become operational as soon as possible. It's going to be an interesting experiment but one that is badly needed due to the nature of the free market. I'm also interested how they will deal with items that really shouldn't be on there like the worst kind of stuff.
The full release will be rolled out by early 2015. They will not have any ability to censor any of the listings that will be posted on the network, even though they dont intend for OB to be used for illicit goods
The Windows binary is now available for beta-testing!!!
https://openbazaar.org/downloads/openbazaar-beta-3.0.zip
https://openbazaar.org/downloads/openbazaar-beta-3.0.zip
You need to install gpg4win first for windows:
http://www.gpg4win.org/download.html
-snip-
Have gpg4win, it does not find it anyway. Any logs that could help you? I will get a fresh machine in a few days for linux anyway so Im not that much into fixing it, I just wanted to let it be known that there apparently are problems.
Why couldn't one buy shares in this? Such as freemarket did. Would have been win win
This is an open source project where there is no central company or controlling group. Selling shares in a company would completely undermine the project and add unnecessary attack vectors.
OB is a great project imo. Its gonna be interesting where btc acceptance by the general public will be, by the time OB is ready to launch and then see how big of an impact OB will have, and how fast.
OpenBazaar is cool but is not good enough.
It's early days. Come back in 6 months.
When does it actually go live? I think this needs to become operational as soon as possible. It's going to be an interesting experiment but one that is badly needed due to the nature of the free market. I'm also interested how they will deal with items that really shouldn't be on there like the worst kind of stuff.
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