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I mean, we all knew that the "Online" number in the top right is bogus, but this pretty much confirms it. Unless you believe that out of the 208 people online, 167 play an exclusive freeroll.

(Even the numbers don't match since more than 40 other people sat cashgame tables at that time.)

I guess the "500 player online" promise from hh is achievable when you just fudge the numbers.

You love to throw mud to see if something sticks?  Im not even sure what you are trying to say here....that players in cash games cant also be playing in a freeroll?  And I said 500 players by year's end is my guess.  

Some people have conspiracy theory brains.....I guess you are one of them.

Anyway, just wanted to stop by and show all the people on here how much of liar you are to accuse me of cheating, and then to sit down to play with me just now.  Because that makes sense.

   https://i.imgur.com/X1pZZBl.jpg



lol, Zapmeister was sat with you, I joined and put auto-ready in, he left and you decided to click ready knowing I won't play you HU. Scummy as always.

As for the other thing: There is like 3 people in that whole tournament who aren't completely new names. Whatever buddy, keep those numbers up.. I guess.
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https://i.imgur.com/thLnOi5.png

I mean, we all knew that the "Online" number in the top right is bogus, but this pretty much confirms it. Unless you believe that out of the 208 people online, 167 play an exclusive freeroll.

(Even the numbers don't match since more than 40 other people sat cashgame tables at that time.)

I guess the "500 player online" promise from hh is achievable when you just fudge the numbers.

You love to throw mud to see if something sticks?  Im not even sure what you are trying to say here....that players in cash games cant also be playing in a freeroll?  And I said 500 players by year's end is my guess.  

Some people have conspiracy theory brains.....I guess you are one of them.

Anyway, just wanted to stop by and show all the people on here how much of liar you are to accuse me of cheating, and then to sit down to play with me just now.  Because that makes sense.

https://i.imgur.com/X1pZZBl.png   https://i.imgur.com/X1pZZBl.jpg

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I mean, we all knew that the "Online" number in the top right is bogus, but this pretty much confirms it. Unless you believe that out of the 208 people online, 167 play an exclusive freeroll.

(Even the numbers don't match since more than 40 other people sat cashgame tables at that time.)

I guess the "500 player online" promise from hh is achievable when you just fudge the numbers.
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Lastly, if you ever stopped playing on SwC because of the culture, I hope you stop by and check out just how different it has become.

all i know is, the drama you've stirred up has really fucked up our private bitcointalk series. a bunch of our players can no longer chat at the tables anymore because of the 500 krill requirement. implementing something like this without any kind of whitelisting feature leaves a really bad taste in one's mouth. it's pretty annoying that you guys let some trollbox drama turn into this, not to mention de facto chat banning all new players to the site. what a shitshow!

well at least they wont be exposed to any bad words
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Lastly, if you ever stopped playing on SwC because of the culture, I hope you stop by and check out just how different it has become.

all i know is, the drama you've stirred up has really fucked up our private bitcointalk series. a bunch of our players can no longer chat at the tables anymore because of the 500 krill requirement. implementing something like this without any kind of whitelisting feature leaves a really bad taste in one's mouth. it's pretty annoying that you guys let some trollbox drama turn into this, not to mention de facto chat banning all new players to the site. what a shitshow!
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When i read articles about casinos and betting sites about scamming people, it is not a good thing of course that they do this. but with poker, it does not make any sense at all why they would scam people because they poker site will never lose money as they only have to payout the money that is used by other players. unless they got very greedy and starting a self destructive project hehe.
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Higherhighs is definitely a weird hire, given that he is all but confirmed cheating at their OFCp tables. I wonder if the SWC team thinks he helped or hindered the site.

My bad, I'm not a native English speaker. We do have proof, he just wasn't / won't be taken action against by SWC and we're not confident in their willingness to do so (apparently he is good friends with the owner) to forward that proof.

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Unless you're really dumb there's basically no way for another player to prove whether or not you're using a solver and if someone had proof you'd already know about it. And as long as you're clicking the buttons it wouldn't be difficult at all to make it impossible for seals to catch you. You might as well just make it a billion dollar reward - same difference.

Yep, happy to see I really didn't have to explain and everyone but the man himself understands.


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Neither ownership nor management has changed.

If only we could believe you...

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But we do appreciate their help as a connection between players and management.

So you think this is going well?
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The decision to make adjustments to the chat rules, and the ultimate enforcement of those rules, comes from SwC management. We want SwC to be a place that everyone can join to have some fun playing bitcoin poker.

Neither ownership nor management has changed.

We understand that not all players may agree with these adjustments, or may be unclear about them at first.

We welcome all suggestions, feedback and critiques from players about the rules and their enforcement as long as they are made in a respectful way.

Higherhighs, along with other players, have assisted in pointing out inappropriate chat and relaying suggestions during this period until there is an official SwC representative present. These players have no control or powers themselves other than to send in reports and suggestions. They are not employees and are not compensated in any way. They do not represent or speak officially for SwC. But we do appreciate their help as a connection between players and management. We also invite any other players with suggestions to send them to us directly.

If you are curious about actions taken with your account, feel they have been made in error, or have issues with another player we ask that you email support. We also ask that personal attacks and debates between players be kept out of this thread.

Issues regarding individual accounts or disputes between players will not be handled on a public forum.

Emails sent to support are not shared with anyone outside of the SwC team. Since the beginning SwC has always made player privacy a top priority. We do not ask for more information from players than is needed and have never shared information given with anyone.

If you observe a player or players that you would like the security team to look at please send in a report to support. Accusations shared in chat or a forum are not enough. You do not need to have proof to make a report. Simply include as much info as possible about the game and situation that you observed. The team will investigate from there.

We are aware that some players have reported slower response times from support and are working to improve that. If you have not received a reply after some time you may send us a PM with your screen name and we will check in to it.

We understand the issue regarding players without chat not being able to request action from the table. The team is working on a solution.

I'm sorry for the double post, but since you run some rather successful mixed game tournaments sometimes, I want to make a suggestion:

PokerStars has a structure in which blinds start much higher in comparison, but one orbit of games has the same blinds for each game (in this case the split games even have slightly higher blinds, see FLO8), here's an example:



Now, this tournament is rather turbo, but I think the general idea is great and worth adopting since, as it stands now, some games are way more impactful than others, just because of the way they're sorted.

I hope you like the idea and trial it sometimes. It is far more fair and, as a side effect, starting with higher effective blinds will facilitate more re-entries, which is good for SWC and the price pool!

Thank you. This is a good suggestion and will be forwarded to the team.

With all that drama here, I feel it's time to share that there are also great things happening. SwC Poker have been hosting exclusive Bitcointalk Poker Series for the last couple of months, sponsoring these and the 9 best players of our current series (#3) will play the Grand Finale tomorrow - posting this 1) to up the mood 2) to express the thanks of everyone participating in the series.

Thanks for having helped establishing a regular poker game among bitcointalk users - something like that didn't exist before.

Thank you for organizing these events and everyone here from Bitcointalk that has been taking part in them.
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$10,000, show the World that proof, or I will accept your following excuse in your next post as a public apology.
Unless you're really dumb there's basically no way for another player to prove whether or not you're using a solver and if someone had proof you'd already know about it. And as long as you're clicking the buttons it wouldn't be difficult at all to make it impossible for seals to catch you. You might as well just make it a billion dollar reward - same difference.

My guess is the accusations are stemming from an obvious personal grudge, but this challenge doesn't make you look innocent in any way.

If you keep being a passive aggressive dick in chat this drama will keep following you.
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With all that drama here, I feel it's time to share that there are also great things happening. SwC Poker have been hosting exclusive Bitcointalk Poker Series for the last couple of months, sponsoring these and the 9 best players of our current series (#3) will play the Grand Finale tomorrow - posting this 1) to up the mood 2) to express the thanks of everyone participating in the series.

Thanks for having helped establishing a regular poker game among bitcointalk users - something like that didn't exist before.
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Higherhighs is definitely a weird hire, given that he is all but confirmed cheating at their OFCp tables. I wonder if the SWC team thinks he helped or hindered the site.

Seems like you have a personal vendetta but I'll bite in case I'm wrong.  How is he all but confirmed cheating?  Solver? collusion?


Yes, he is live solving.


I wonder if SWC could answer these three questions to alleviate some concerns about security of funds and integrity of the site:

1) Has ownership of SWC recently changed?
2) Do you not consider it a conflict of interest that higherhighs is playing against players he is actively involved in muting/banning?
3) Do you consider the PR you have gotten recently better than before and do you anticipate it changing in the future?

Thanks in advance.

Let's clear some things up.

First, SkyReVo AKA Ugot0chance on SwC has played a good number of hours of chinese poker against me. And I first learned that solvers existed for chinese poker because he started accusing a different player we were playing against of cheating. Apparently, if he wins, he is the greatest, and if he loses, it could only be because someone cheated him.

I have never cheated one hand of poker in my career, and I have never used a solver while playing or for practice. Because of this, I am confident there is no proof of me 'cheating', because I never have.  

What uGot0Chance/SkyReVo forgot to mention is that I offered him $2,000, no strings attached, to provide any proof that I have cheated or used a solver in any capacity. This was my response to him calling me a cheater after our last session. That offer is still open and available to anyone.

I also offered him to escrow $2,000 and I would do the same, and I would livestream play him, to prove that my mind is the only thing I need to beat him. He also declined this invitation.


Now lets talk about chat. I have volunteered to help SwC clean up their chat/culture because their new rules were not being adhered to by many players/chatters who have evolved with SwC over the years.  The chat at SwC, had been very toxic, as there were literally no rules for chatting for 8 years.  This involved many players/chatters logging in every day to SwC to abuse other players with often time racist and homophobic remarks and a lot of abuse. This culture, may have formed a tight nit bond with a few players, but pushed a lot of new players away over the years and made it so it was tough for people to rec the site to their friends, knowing they would be exposed to extreme abuse.

Having been playing on and off on the site since very first month in existence, I had seen the evolution of the site and culture, and had always felt that this aspect of the site needed to change to be able to grow.  So when I saw an opportunity to help for a short amount of time to evolve the culture in a positive direction, I offered to help. I saw someone say that SwC shows me emails, that is not true, I discuss with them why players were muted when the player emails in, and the screnshot I saw, was from a discord where players who are on board with the changes, send me screenshots of abusive/racist behavoir.

Many players are thrilled with the new direction of SwC, but there are definitely a handful of players, that have deemed it more important to be able to drop racist and homophobic slurs at will then to respect the request and chat rules that SwC has put forth. These players seem to be the most vocal on social media and are distorting the truth in some type of effort to get me 'fired'. I put 'fired' in quotes because I am not paid or compensated at all.

uGot0Chance/SkyReVo lost his chat permanently for advertising another poker site and enticing SwC players to play there.....he made over a dozen of these posts on July 13th, and was permanently muted because of it.  Though poaching players for another site was more then enough to perm mute him, he also chose to be disturbingly abusive towards me, graphically giving me in-depth directions in the lobby chat on how to slit my wrists correctly.


Lastly, if you ever stopped playing on SwC because of the culture, I hope you stop by and check out just how different it has become. I am really proud to be part of the reason why hate speech and abusive behavoir are no longer tolerated on SwC, and although some of the abusers have now found an outlet thru social media, I am looking forward to SwC continuing to strive to be a poker destination for all players.

Thank you for your time,

higherhighs


Whew... lots of smoke screens here, very impressive. I'll keep it short:

Yes, I have played higherhighs for a while and we have since confirmed that during that period, he has used live assistance against me and atleast two other (ex-)regulars. This was confirmed by a developer of one of these solvers (think PIO solver, just for Chinese) with confidence. If you follow this thread, you know why I'm not confident sharing exactly how we know with him or SWC. But it's unequivocally the case. We haven't played much recently, therefore I do not know if he still does is since he is affiliated with SWC.

For any (potential) OFCp player, I just issue this warning: There is a reason none of the regs ever plays higherhighs anymore and if you're really interested, DM me and I'll share info on discord.

There is no upside to me taking his "offer". It's another fairly obvious smoke screen, don't think I have to explain.


As for the chat issue, I couldn't care less. Yes, I do verbally abuse cheaters. Consider yourself lucky that that's all that happens nowadays, back in the day, cheaters were buried alive in the desert. Ah, how times change. Just for clarification though, I am not an agent/affiliate for any site and didn't poach anyone, just told people that there are much better options and referred them to other agents. Again, don't care about the chat ban. But I will always warn about cheaters.


Lastly, if you ever stopped playing on SwC because it seemed sketchy, I hope you consider my words of caution that SWC has extremely bad judgement in who they deal with (and I suspect ownership has recently changed aswell), and therefore the risk of playing here has, imo, increased quite a bit.

In the end, you decide who to trust.

Thank you for your time,

uGot


No matter how many times you say a lie, will not make it true.

Just to put this child to bed, I will up my offer to $10,000 to provide proof that I have cheated in one hand, or have ever used a solver while playing or even for practice. Also, I play so fast, much faster than UGot, and will livestream some sessions so that everyone can see my brain in action. I also have played as high as $75 a point in live casinos, and I consider myself an expert at chinese poker (especially 2-7).

Oh, and just to show everyone how Ugot is is just talking out of his butt, notice his 1st post (below) about this stated I was 'all but confirmed cheating at theri OFCp tables' and that has now progressed to 'we have since confirmed that during that period, he has used live assistance against me and atleast two other (ex-)regulars.'


$10,000, show the World that proof, or I will accept your following excuse in your next post as a public apology.

Higherhighs is definitely a weird hire, given that he is all but confirmed cheating at their OFCp tables. I wonder if the SWC team thinks he helped or hindered the site.

I haven't cashed out everything, sometimes there are some mega fish you can take advantage of, but my action there went from 80% to like 10%. Kinda sad, I liked earning BTC directly. But oh well..
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i loled^^ and obviously Bert is right

What a power trip higherhighs is on though, like a kid that causes trouble bc the teacher had to run out for a second and asked him to let her know if anyone misbehaved.
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Higherhighs and/or SWC can you please explain why the chat below resulted in a chat ban for BertBert? Is there a specific rule that was violated?

ALL 5 pages of chat: https://imgur.com/a/uaB54vA












 
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Higherhighs is definitely a weird hire, given that he is all but confirmed cheating at their OFCp tables. I wonder if the SWC team thinks he helped or hindered the site.

Seems like you have a personal vendetta but I'll bite in case I'm wrong.  How is he all but confirmed cheating?  Solver? collusion?


Yes, he is live solving.


I wonder if SWC could answer these three questions to alleviate some concerns about security of funds and integrity of the site:

1) Has ownership of SWC recently changed?
2) Do you not consider it a conflict of interest that higherhighs is playing against players he is actively involved in muting/banning?
3) Do you consider the PR you have gotten recently better than before and do you anticipate it changing in the future?

Thanks in advance.

Let's clear some things up.

First, SkyReVo AKA Ugot0chance on SwC has played a good number of hours of chinese poker against me. And I first learned that solvers existed for chinese poker because he started accusing a different player we were playing against of cheating. Apparently, if he wins, he is the greatest, and if he loses, it could only be because someone cheated him.

I have never cheated one hand of poker in my career, and I have never used a solver while playing or for practice. Because of this, I am confident there is no proof of me 'cheating', because I never have.  

What uGot0Chance/SkyReVo forgot to mention is that I offered him $2,000, no strings attached, to provide any proof that I have cheated or used a solver in any capacity. This was my response to him calling me a cheater after our last session. That offer is still open and available to anyone.

I also offered him to escrow $2,000 and I would do the same, and I would livestream play him, to prove that my mind is the only thing I need to beat him. He also declined this invitation.


Now lets talk about chat. I have volunteered to help SwC clean up their chat/culture because their new rules were not being adhered to by many players/chatters who have evolved with SwC over the years.  The chat at SwC, had been very toxic, as there were literally no rules for chatting for 8 years.  This involved many players/chatters logging in every day to SwC to abuse other players with often time racist and homophobic remarks and a lot of abuse. This culture, may have formed a tight nit bond with a few players, but pushed a lot of new players away over the years and made it so it was tough for people to rec the site to their friends, knowing they would be exposed to extreme abuse.

Having been playing on and off on the site since very first month in existence, I had seen the evolution of the site and culture, and had always felt that this aspect of the site needed to change to be able to grow.  So when I saw an opportunity to help for a short amount of time to evolve the culture in a positive direction, I offered to help. I saw someone say that SwC shows me emails, that is not true, I discuss with them why players were muted when the player emails in, and the screnshot I saw, was from a discord where players who are on board with the changes, send me screenshots of abusive/racist behavoir.

Many players are thrilled with the new direction of SwC, but there are definitely a handful of players, that have deemed it more important to be able to drop racist and homophobic slurs at will then to respect the request and chat rules that SwC has put forth. These players seem to be the most vocal on social media and are distorting the truth in some type of effort to get me 'fired'. I put 'fired' in quotes because I am not paid or compensated at all.

uGot0Chance/SkyReVo lost his chat permanently for advertising another poker site and enticing SwC players to play there.....he made over a dozen of these posts on July 13th, and was permanently muted because of it.  Though poaching players for another site was more then enough to perm mute him, he also chose to be disturbingly abusive towards me, graphically giving me in-depth directions in the lobby chat on how to slit my wrists correctly.


Lastly, if you ever stopped playing on SwC because of the culture, I hope you stop by and check out just how different it has become. I am really proud to be part of the reason why hate speech and abusive behavoir are no longer tolerated on SwC, and although some of the abusers have now found an outlet thru social media, I am looking forward to SwC continuing to strive to be a poker destination for all players.

Thank you for your time,

higherhighs


Whew... lots of smoke screens here, very impressive. I'll keep it short:

Yes, I have played higherhighs for a while and we have since confirmed that during that period, he has used live assistance against me and atleast two other (ex-)regulars. This was confirmed by a developer of one of these solvers (think PIO solver, just for Chinese) with confidence. If you follow this thread, you know why I'm not confident sharing exactly how we know with him or SWC. But it's unequivocally the case. We haven't played much recently, therefore I do not know if he still does is since he is affiliated with SWC.

For any (potential) OFCp player, I just issue this warning: There is a reason none of the regs ever plays higherhighs anymore and if you're really interested, DM me and I'll share info on discord.

There is no upside to me taking his "offer". It's another fairly obvious smoke screen, don't think I have to explain.


As for the chat issue, I couldn't care less. Yes, I do verbally abuse cheaters. Consider yourself lucky that that's all that happens nowadays, back in the day, cheaters were buried alive in the desert. Ah, how times change. Just for clarification though, I am not an agent/affiliate for any site and didn't poach anyone, just told people that there are much better options and referred them to other agents. Again, don't care about the chat ban. But I will always warn about cheaters.


Lastly, if you ever stopped playing on SwC because it seemed sketchy, I hope you consider my words of caution that SWC has extremely bad judgement in who they deal with (and I suspect ownership has recently changed aswell), and therefore the risk of playing here has, imo, increased quite a bit.

In the end, you decide who to trust.

Thank you for your time,

uGot
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Thats fine i know copying and pasting the rules is your only response to questions or criticism. My posting was more just to let people interested in joining have a perspective from a player about what is really going on not the story from the perpetrator themselves.

I have no dog in the race anymore anyways since I know longer play at or visit SwC Poker after my unfair treatment I am just giving my perspective for others.
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Since you keep trying to steer around it, what I am trying to say is that you made SwC out to be some racist hellhole. You even likened it to a "KKK rally' a few posts ago. It was not and very few people that were banned were actually banned for using the N word or any sort of racist language. The other 90% of people were banned for random made up reasons that are not listed in the rules.

I don't have any problem following rules, especially the no racial slurs one as that really has no place anywhere. What I have a problem with is not knowing what the actual rules are because the official ones are few and listed on the website but the ones being enforced are many and exist solely in your head so therefore are impossible to follow and none of them pertain to fixing racism.

Steering around what? Your made up #s?

Have you even read the updated rules?  https://swcpoker.eu/house-rules#chat-rules


Chat Rules‍
Chat is a privilege that can be revoked by management at will.‍ Verbally abusing players will not be tolerated.
Chat is uncensored, and is not necessarily in English.‍
Players are provided with an Ignore option to hide the chat of any player they do not wish to see.‍

a) Coarse language is permitted, but racial/sexual slurs and hate speech are prohibited.
b) Discussing a hand in progress, revealing your hole cards prematurely, or otherwise affecting gameplay is prohibited.‍
c) Spamming or flooding the chat is prohibited.‍
d) Illegal, malicious, and sexually explicit hyperlinks or chat is prohibited.‍
e) Referral codes, referral hyperlinks, and advertisements for external promotions or sites are prohibited.
f) Begging for chips at the table or in the lobby chat box is prohibited.‍

In addition to the rules listed above, a common sense policy should be used to determine what is considered inappropriate chat. Cases will be dealt with by management on an individual basis.

Players found to be using inappropriate chat will be given a warning, and will have their chat removed for one week.

A second violation will result in the removal of chat for one month.

Gross and/or repeated violations of prohibited behavior will result in a permanent loss of chat.

Do not use multiple accounts to evade a loss of chat, or to chat to a user who has ignored you. This may result in escalated consequences at the discretion of SwC management.‍

In general, 1st infraction = 1 week chat loss, 2nd infraction = 1 month chat loss, 3rd infraction = permanent chat loss.

Doxxing another player will result in permanent loss of chat.
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Since you keep trying to steer around it, what I am trying to say is that you made SwC out to be some racist hellhole. You even likened it to a "KKK rally' a few posts ago. It was not and very few people that were banned were actually banned for using the N word or any sort of racist language. The other 90% of people were banned for random made up reasons that are not listed in the rules.

I don't have any problem following rules, especially the no racial slurs one as that really has no place anywhere. What I have a problem with is not knowing what the actual rules are because the official ones are few and listed on the website but the ones being enforced are many and exist solely in your head so therefore are impossible to follow and none of them pertain to fixing racism.
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