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Quote from: Phoenix1969 on August 29, 2013, 11:30:44 AM

Bitfury at wall is around 1W/GH Source

KnC Max at wall is 1.6W/GH

Somehow I'm not seeing the 50% Sad

Bitfury is 0.8 J/Gh at wall according to 2 customers who have received their units. Quite exactly 50% of KnC (estimated) 1.6 J/Gh. That can change tho, if KnC does it's under promise, over deliver thing.

No No No
Bitfury is NOT still half KNC on Watts if they are getting HALF the expected Hashrate & delivering 2x as many boards to make up for it... So Bitfury's you must DOUBLE what they Spec.'d at. And now that they must deliver DOUBLE expected boards, you can expect delays

Each board turned out to do ~22.2 Gh/s instead of promised 25Gh/s. Happy days for starter kit orderers who got 2x22Gh instead of promised 25Gh. Still 0.8 J/Gh - 100% more efficient than KnC - no matter how many more boards they ship.

Great, go get a Rasberri Pi & order a Bitfury... Use Duct tape, Bubble gum and fishing line while assembling your overpromised, under-delivered, POS monstrosity, and play. I'm staying right here, thank-you.

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Quote from: Bitcoinorama on August 29, 2013, 11:51:06 AM

Quote from: klee on August 29, 2013, 10:51:38 AM

I would go Bitfury mate, sorry...
EVEN NOW I would prefer October BF than October KnC because a chip exists 100%.

EDIT: BTW missed both these trains, oh well...

Klee I don't understand your beef. If you still have an order as you claim, and you are unhappy, go ask for your refund.

Why continue tormenting yourself, when you clearly aren't confident?

Nor do I.
Especially since they(Bitfury) showed their talent in the results, not to mention its a rat's nest of boards with no case. People are using fishing line & cardboard boxes to assemble those crappy things. No thanks.

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Only for your anxiety, I've updated my numbers a bit!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgSa2BKZz0WudHVlQVc0NmNVaXJEUHdLS090dWptSEE&usp=sharing

15th of October - at this increase rate - seems to be the "deadline".

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Quote from: Phoenix1969 on August 29, 2013, 11:30:44 AM

Bitfury at wall is around 1W/GH Source

KnC Max at wall is 1.6W/GH

Somehow I'm not seeing the 50% Sad

Bitfury is 0.8 J/Gh at wall according to 2 customers who have received their units. Quite exactly 50% of KnC (estimated) 1.6 J/Gh. That can change tho, if KnC does it's under promise, over deliver thing.

No No No
Bitfury is NOT still half KNC on Watts if they are getting HALF the expected Hashrate & delivering 2x as many boards to make up for it... So Bitfury's you must DOUBLE what they Spec.'d at. And now that they must deliver DOUBLE expected boards, you can expect delays

Each board turned out to do ~22.2 Gh/s instead of promised 25Gh/s. Happy days for starter kit orderers who got 2x22Gh instead of promised 25Gh. Still 0.8 J/Gh - 100% more efficient than KnC - no matter how many more boards they ship.

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Quote from: rizzman on August 29, 2013, 11:39:19 AM

Quote from: AFox on August 29, 2013, 06:29:46 AM

Quote from: timmmers on August 28, 2013, 06:30:11 PM

Quote from: Phoenix1969 on August 28, 2013, 03:44:13 PM

Yes, the "Paperclip trick" need be employed when not using the MB plug, which sends the on/off signal. Example...On Corsair Power Supplies, you jumper the green pin & any black pin on the 24 pin MB connector.

A paperclip isn't professional, trust me Wink

Just use one of these : http://www.amazon.com/Pin-SATA-Power-Supply-Tester-Black/dp/B00AZZR30A/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1377771843&sr=1-1&keywords=power+supply+tester
It will turn on the power supply and will warn you if the PSU has a problem.

+1 - Excellent Idea

So, you'd try and leave that tester on every machine? It's called the "Paperclip trick", but does not imply to leave a paperclip in the pins. You didn't quote the rest of my post either, where it says I'm using a WIRE NUT to connect the two wires, which is appropriate for our task, and yes... professional. Your little tester would be great if the task were only to test the unit. I modded & tested all three of my PSU's yesterday, re-boxed them, and are ready to ship to the Bat-cave, so when I arrive to connect the machines, it will truly be plug & mine.

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Quote from: klee on August 29, 2013, 10:51:38 AM

I would go Bitfury mate, sorry...
EVEN NOW I would prefer October BF than October KnC because a chip exists 100%.

EDIT: BTW missed both these trains, oh well...

Klee I don't understand your beef. If you still have an order as you claim, and you are unhappy, go ask for your refund.

Why continue tormenting yourself, when you clearly aren't confident?

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Quote from: carlotech on August 29, 2013, 10:53:27 AM

Its almost september, i am getting exited to see the chips. Grin

Dont worry, KNC will show hashing unit in September. One month is plenty of time

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Quote from: dan99 on August 29, 2013, 11:27:24 AM

Quote from: Meizirkki on August 29, 2013, 10:11:14 AM

Quote from: AFox on August 29, 2013, 06:29:46 AM

HashFast, Cointerra, KnC pending...

they will have 28nm chips.

Bitfury still only 50% of KnC power draw Wink

and already delivering

Bitfury at wall is around 1W/GH

KnC Max at wall is 1.6W/GH

Somehow I'm not seeing the 50% Sad

Would you prefer a 400GHs by Bitfury delivered in a week or a 400GHs by KnC early October?
That is the question my friend...

That isn't the question, depends on cost. Would I pay $20,000 for a unit delivered now max 400GH or $7000 Delivered 30 Days from now with Minimum 400GH?

Bitfury 400Gh is only $8580 compares to US$6795, http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/shop/

These are the prices for October orders, they had more for July , august, September now removed.

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Quote from: timmmers on August 28, 2013, 06:30:11 PM

Quote from: Phoenix1969 on August 28, 2013, 03:44:13 PM

Yes, the "Paperclip trick" need be employed when not using the MB plug, which sends the on/off signal. Example...On Corsair Power Supplies, you jumper the green pin & any black pin on the 24 pin MB connector.

A paperclip isn't professional, trust me Wink

Just use one of these : http://www.amazon.com/Pin-SATA-Power-Supply-Tester-Black/dp/B00AZZR30A/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1377771843&sr=1-1&keywords=power+supply+tester
It will turn on the power supply and will warn you if the PSU has a problem.

+1 - Excellent Idea

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Quote from: klee on August 29, 2013, 10:51:38 AM

Quote from: klee on August 29, 2013, 10:46:37 AM

Quote from: Meizirkki on August 29, 2013, 10:11:14 AM

Quote from: dan99 on July 05, 2013, 12:09:49 AM

HashFast, Cointerra, KnC pending...

they will have 28nm chips.

Bitfury still only 50% of KnC power draw Wink

and already delivering

Bitfury at wall is around 1W/GH

KnC Max at wall is 1.6W/GH

Somehow I'm not seeing the 50% Sad

Would you prefer a 400GHs by Bitfury delivered in a week or a 400GHs by KnC early October?
That is the question my friend...

That isn't the question, depends on cost. Would I pay $20,000 for a unit delivered now max 400GH or $7000 Delivered 30 Days from now with Minimum 400GH?

Was it $20,000 priced? Don't forget that it exists Wink

Bitfury 55nm ASIC by Reel (October Delivery)?? This are Asic Chip??

You are selling 3000 chip for Euro 45K?/ so Euro15 per chip or $19.5?? and each chip is 5gh/s??, so 3000 x 5gh/s = 1.5TH??

Amazing, July you charge E240K x $1.30 = $312k but October only E45K x $1.30 = $58.5 ?/ Opps this are all Euro.

$19.50 per chip of / 5gh/s = $3.90 per gh/s is very reasonable I would say.

But your full kit is expensive - 400gh/s for $9750 is $24 per gh/s.

I would go Bitfury mate, sorry...
EVEN NOW I would prefer October BF than October KnC because a chip exists 100%.

EDIT: BTW missed both these trains, oh well...

Ya, if you are not first in line you might as well be last with ASICS.

No No No
Bitfury is NOT still half KNC on Watts if they are getting HALF the expected Hashrate & delivering 2x as many boards to make up for it... So Bitfury's you must DOUBLE what they Spec.'d at. And now that they must deliver DOUBLE expected boards, you can expect delays

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Quote from: klee on August 29, 2013, 08:50:41 AM

Quote from: timmmers on August 29, 2013, 08:48:49 AM

I think a simple slogan maybe.

Mine, all mine.

As for knowing that KnC don't have chips ? Really? How do you know they didn't get them this morning? Because they didn't bleat about it on a forum? Maybe the day they DO get chips (or did) they thought of more important things to do with them? They could have them in hand any day now, or have them already.
Maybe a quick test and a pic of an assembled module or real performance data from that would prove to be a better laxative to their competitors in their eyes?

Sorry dude, here only 1 rule applies now: Show me the chips!

Go read Labcoin thread how people attacked on the announcement without proofs.

KnC: Late to party!

Where are the Chips? Where are the Chips?

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Quote from: Meizirkki on August 29, 2013, 10:11:14 AM

Quote from: klee on August 29, 2013, 10:46:37 AM

HashFast, Cointerra, KnC pending...

they will have 28nm chips.

Bitfury still only 50% of KnC power draw Wink

and already delivering

Bitfury at wall is around 1W/GH

KnC Max at wall is 1.6W/GH

Somehow I'm not seeing the 50% Sad

Would you prefer a 400GHs by Bitfury delivered in a week or a 400GHs by KnC early October?
That is the question my friend...

That isn't the question, depends on cost. Would I pay $20,000 for a unit delivered now max 400GH or $7000 Delivered 30 Days from now with Minimum 400GH?

Bitfury 400Gh is only $8580 compares to US$6795, http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/shop/

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Its almost september, i am getting exited to see the chips. Grin

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Quote from: Meizirkki on August 29, 2013, 10:11:14 AM

Quote from: dan99 on July 05, 2013, 12:09:49 AM

HashFast, Cointerra, KnC pending...

they will have 28nm chips.

Bitfury still only 50% of KnC power draw Wink

and already delivering

Bitfury at wall is around 1W/GH

KnC Max at wall is 1.6W/GH

Somehow I'm not seeing the 50% Sad

Would you prefer a 400GHs by Bitfury delivered in a week or a 400GHs by KnC early October?
That is the question my friend...

That isn't the question, depends on cost. Would I pay $20,000 for a unit delivered now max 400GH or $7000 Delivered 30 Days from now with Minimum 400GH?

Was it $20,000 priced? Don't forget that it exists Wink

Bitfury 55nm ASIC by Reel (October Delivery)?? This are Asic Chip??

You are selling 3000 chip for Euro 45K?/ so Euro15 per chip or $19.5?? and each chip is 5gh/s??, so 3000 x 5gh/s = 1.5TH??

Amazing, July you charge E240K x $1.30 = $312k but October only E45K x $1.30 = $58.5 ?/ Opps this are all Euro.

$19.50 per chip of / 5gh/s = $3.90 per gh/s is very reasonable I would say.

But your full kit is expensive - 400gh/s for $9750 is $24 per gh/s.

I would go Bitfury mate, sorry...
EVEN NOW I would prefer October BF than October KnC because a chip exists 100%.

EDIT: BTW missed both these trains, oh well...

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Quote from: jspielberg on August 29, 2013, 07:44:29 AM

I suggest "We are all made of stars..."

You can either credit Moby or Neil DeGrasse Tyson
http://www.awakenedamerican.com/content/we-are-all-made-star-dust-we-are-all-one

Oh no! This can't pass! Giving credit for the poetry written in 1969 by Joni Mitchell to some plagiarist hacks? LRN2history! LRN2literature!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRjQCvfcXn0 (1970, lyrics in comments)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXQmt6O9y5s (1998, lyrics in subtitles)

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Quote from: Meizirkki on August 29, 2013, 10:11:14 AM

HashFast, Cointerra, KnC pending...

they will have 28nm chips.

Bitfury still only 50% of KnC power draw Wink

and already delivering

Bitfury at wall is around 1W/GH

KnC Max at wall is 1.6W/GH

Somehow I'm not seeing the 50% Sad

Would you prefer a 400GHs by Bitfury delivered in a week or a 400GHs by KnC early October?
That is the question my friend...

That isn't the question, depends on cost. Would I pay $20,000 for a unit delivered now max 400GH or $7000 Delivered 30 Days from now with Minimum 400GH?

Was it $20,000 priced? Don't forget that it exists Wink

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Quote from: Meizirkki on August 29, 2013, 10:11:14 AM

HashFast, Cointerra, KnC pending...

they will have 28nm chips.

Bitfury still only 50% of KnC power draw Wink

and already delivering

Bitfury at wall is around 1W/GH

KnC Max at wall is 1.6W/GH

Somehow I'm not seeing the 50% Sad

Would you prefer a 400GHs by Bitfury delivered in a week or a 400GHs by KnC early October?
That is the question my friend...

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