Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 1840.

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Quote from: Anenome5 on August 14, 2013, 06:44:55 PM

It looks to me like those cases may not be aluminum. Possibly they misspoke, they seem to be thin-steel, possibly 22 gauge steel or thereabouts? Most aluminum is rather soft for this application. Something about the color--I'm usually pretty good at calling metal content by physical appearance and color, though obviously it's difficult to say for sure from a mere photograph.

Quote from: ultrix on August 14, 2013, 06:41:17 PM

I'm sure they do allow it, just not cobbled PC water cooling. Level 3 in SF had a 2 rack Cray T3e running in a cage until 2006. Not two f**ks were given.

I'm sure they'd make an exception for a goddamn Cray too.

The metal for the case is platinum.. That is where all the pre-order money went

(just my 2 bits of FUD fun)

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external PSU is such a non-issue, I removed the PSU from my avalon after three days to place it outside the case (and got a couple degrees cooler performance by doing so)

I just hope those edges are very well rounded or they include some kind of rubber grommet for that access slot. I have visions of shorted wires when I look at that thing.

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It looks to me like those cases may not be aluminum. Possibly they misspoke, they seem to be thin-steel, possibly 22 gauge steel or thereabouts? Most aluminum is rather soft for this application. Something about the color--I'm usually pretty good at calling metal content by physical appearance and color, though obviously it's difficult to say for sure from a mere photograph.

Quote from: ultrix on August 14, 2013, 06:41:17 PM

I'm sure they do allow it, just not cobbled PC water cooling. Level 3 in SF had a 2 rack Cray T3e running in a cage until 2006. Not two f**ks were given.

I'm sure they'd make an exception for a goddamn Cray too.

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Quote from: Syke on August 14, 2013, 06:35:39 PM

Quote from: Bitcoinorama on August 14, 2013, 06:31:51 PM

Also ask whether the psu's are external. There's been no confirmation, only assumption.

https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-28

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The small slot at the front is to accommodate one 5V and multiple 12V power connections from the external PSU as well as the RJ45 for Ethernet and a USB.

Seems pretty clear to me.

Damn. But lots of time to redesign i guess...

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Quote from: Anenome5 on August 14, 2013, 06:33:27 PM

Quote from: ultrix on August 14, 2013, 06:26:24 PM

#2 - Data centers allow water cooling. Less than 10 years ago I had to deal with decommissioning a water cooled mainframe from a data center.

The largest data center in Los Angeles... wait for it... does not allow water cooling in their facilities. Huge risk. Maybe you can find some that will allow it for who knows what reason but I doubt the main-stays will.

I'm sure they do allow it, just not cobbled PC water cooling. Level 3 in SF had a 2 rack Cray T3e running in a cage until 2006. Not two f**ks were given.

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Quote from: Syke on August 14, 2013, 06:35:39 PM

Quote from: Bitcoinorama on August 14, 2013, 06:31:51 PM

Also ask whether the psu's are external. There's been no confirmation, only assumption.

https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-28

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The small slot at the front is to accommodate one 5V and multiple 12V power connections from the external PSU as well as the RJ45 for Ethernet and a USB.

Seems pretty clear to me.

Haha touché! Wink

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Quote from: Bitcoinorama on August 14, 2013, 06:31:51 PM

Also ask whether the psu's are external. There's been no confirmation, only assumption.

https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-28

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The small slot at the front is to accommodate one 5V and multiple 12V power connections from the external PSU as well as the RJ45 for Ethernet and a USB.

Seems pretty clear to me.

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Quote from: ultrix on August 14, 2013, 06:26:24 PM

#2 - Data centers allow water cooling. Less than 10 years ago I had to deal with decommissioning a water cooled mainframe from a data center.

The largest data center in Los Angeles... wait for it... does not allow water cooling in their facilities. Huge risk. Maybe you can find some that will allow it for who knows what reason but I doubt the main-stays will.

Bitcoinorama

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Quote from: ultrix on August 14, 2013, 06:26:24 PM

Quote from: Bitcoinorama on August 14, 2013, 06:11:49 PM

Quote from: erk on August 14, 2013, 05:42:08 PM

Quote from: thorvald on August 14, 2013, 05:41:10 PM

Quote from: erk on August 14, 2013, 05:38:54 PM

Quote from: thorvald on August 14, 2013, 05:36:16 PM

the power supply has to be in the case ,
is not safe to keep it out and also no datacenter will accept to accommodate the miner in this configuration
is a safety hazard

Nonsense, ATX supplies are self contained.

no datacenter will collocate any miner with a outside atx supply

BS, the one I use will. Stop trying to spread FUD, an ATX supply is just a power brick with a fan, you are just use to people putting them inside the case for neatness.

KNC offer professional hosting of their miners at a local data center as a payable service.

Both Sam and Andreas are Systems Architects by profession.

Sam's been arranging datacentres and has a total understanding of their requirements, hence no liquid cooling, as liquid cooled miners are not welcome in datacentres.

#1 - External power supply is completely stupid.
#2 - Data centers allow water cooling. Less than 10 years ago I had to deal with decommissioning a water cooled mainframe from a data center.

Apparently the ones in Sweden won't, they tried. They don't want to deal with it. Ask them.

Also ask whether the psu's are external. There's been no confirmation, only assumption.

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Quote from: Bitcoinorama on August 14, 2013, 06:11:49 PM

Quote from: erk on August 14, 2013, 05:42:08 PM

Quote from: thorvald on August 14, 2013, 05:41:10 PM

Quote from: erk on August 14, 2013, 05:38:54 PM

Quote from: thorvald on August 14, 2013, 05:36:16 PM

the power supply has to be in the case ,
is not safe to keep it out and also no datacenter will accept to accommodate the miner in this configuration
is a safety hazard

Nonsense, ATX supplies are self contained.

no datacenter will collocate any miner with a outside atx supply

BS, the one I use will. Stop trying to spread FUD, an ATX supply is just a power brick with a fan, you are just use to people putting them inside the case for neatness.

KNC offer professional hosting of their miners at a local data center as a payable service.

Both Sam and Andreas are Systems Architects by profession.

Sam's been arranging datacentres and has a total understanding of their requirements, hence no liquid cooling, as liquid cooled miners are not welcome in datacentres.

#1 - External power supply is completely stupid.
#2 - Data centers allow water cooling. Less than 10 years ago I had to deal with decommissioning a water cooled mainframe from a data center.

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Quote from: SirWizz on August 14, 2013, 06:18:24 PM

Quote from: erk on August 14, 2013, 05:42:08 PM

Quote from: thorvald on August 14, 2013, 05:41:10 PM

Quote from: erk on August 14, 2013, 05:38:54 PM

Quote from: thorvald on August 14, 2013, 05:36:16 PM

the power supply has to be in the case ,
is not safe to keep it out and also no datacenter will accept to accommodate the miner in this configuration
is a safety hazard

Nonsense, ATX supplies are self contained.

no datacenter will collocate any miner with a outside atx supply

BS, the one I use will. Stop trying to spread FUD, an ATX supply is just a power brick with a fan, you are just use to people putting them inside the case for neatness.

KNC offer professional hosting of their miners at a local data center as a payable service.

BS indeed. In addition to KNC there is another option for hosting the units in Stockholm, so that makes at least 3 data centers that will host these units.

Also the one Sam's brother is hosting at in the UK as well.

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Quote from: erk on August 14, 2013, 05:42:08 PM

Quote from: thorvald on August 14, 2013, 05:41:10 PM

Quote from: erk on August 14, 2013, 05:38:54 PM

Quote from: thorvald on August 14, 2013, 05:36:16 PM

the power supply has to be in the case ,
is not safe to keep it out and also no datacenter will accept to accommodate the miner in this configuration
is a safety hazard

Nonsense, ATX supplies are self contained.

no datacenter will collocate any miner with a outside atx supply

BS, the one I use will. Stop trying to spread FUD, an ATX supply is just a power brick with a fan, you are just use to people putting them inside the case for neatness.

KNC offer professional hosting of their miners at a local data center as a payable service.

BS indeed. In addition to KNC there is another option for hosting the units in Stockholm, so that makes at least 3 data centers that will host these units.

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Dear KNC,

Sorry that lots of people in this thread are giving you grief because BFL and Avalon have fallen short of expectations.

Thanks for your work, looking forward to delivery.

Sincerely,

~The people here who realize that one company's failings do not automatically mean others will disappoint

P.S. Keep up the hard work, and thanks for the update.

Bitcoinorama

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Quote from: erk on August 14, 2013, 05:42:08 PM

Quote from: thorvald on August 14, 2013, 05:41:10 PM

Quote from: erk on August 14, 2013, 05:38:54 PM

Quote from: thorvald on August 14, 2013, 05:36:16 PM

the power supply has to be in the case ,
is not safe to keep it out and also no datacenter will accept to accommodate the miner in this configuration
is a safety hazard

Nonsense, ATX supplies are self contained.

no datacenter will collocate any miner with a outside atx supply

BS, the one I use will. Stop trying to spread FUD, an ATX supply is just a power brick with a fan, you are just use to people putting them inside the case for neatness.

KNC offer professional hosting of their miners at a local data center as a payable service.

Both Sam and Andreas are Systems Architects by profession.

Sam's been arranging datacentres and has a total understanding of their requirements, hence no liquid cooling, as liquid cooled miners are not welcome in datacentres.

erk

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Quote from: thorvald on August 14, 2013, 05:41:10 PM

Quote from: erk on August 14, 2013, 05:38:54 PM

Quote from: thorvald on August 14, 2013, 05:36:16 PM

the power supply has to be in the case ,
is not safe to keep it out and also no datacenter will accept to accommodate the miner in this configuration
is a safety hazard

Nonsense, ATX supplies are self contained.

no datacenter will collocate any miner with a outside atx supply

BS, the one I use will. Stop trying to spread FUD, an ATX supply is just a power brick with a fan, you are just use to people putting them inside the case for neatness.

KNC offer professional hosting of their miners at a local data center as a payable service.

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Quote from: erk on August 14, 2013, 05:38:54 PM

Quote from: thorvald on August 14, 2013, 05:36:16 PM

the power supply has to be in the case ,
is not safe to keep it out and also no datacenter will accept to accommodate the miner in this configuration
is a safety hazard

Nonsense, ATX supplies are self contained.

no datacenter will collocate any miner with a outside atx supply

erk

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Quote from: thorvald on August 14, 2013, 05:36:16 PM

the power supply has to be in the case ,
is not safe to keep it out and also no datacenter will accept to accommodate the miner in this configuration
is a safety hazard

Nonsense, ATX supplies are self contained.

thorvald

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the power supply has to be in the case ,
is not safe to keep it out and also no datacenter will accept to accommodate the miner in this configuration
is a safety hazard

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