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Clueless!
November 10, 2014, 12:27:52 AM

I blows my mind that KNC have "sold" non working titans worth 10-20 million dollars and get away with it... how is that fucking possible ?


mine is working...

We all know that after 5 firmware releases some people can mine some coins on some pools some of the time at 300 MH/s. LTC on KNC approved pools is generally unproblematic. Try p2pool, fast block time coins, load balancing and nicehash.

KNC is hoping to fix some of this stuff in v1.06. We'll see ...

I know nothing about P2P ....suggested pools (hate having to do all this research that KNC shoulda done )

looking into other options.....looking at 45% hardware errors on ghash.io (not sure if this mostly is just stale shares or how correct that is) and 4% on each die under
bfgminer (note to self figure out what everything means on bfgminer)

but does this mean that even thou we are hashing on say a LTC/DODGE pool and getting like me on bfgminer a 297.1 or some such....in reality we are
really only hashing about 1/2 that? 1/4 that? how much of all that crap coming up is clutter or dropped coin?

by the by some folks say they can use the multicoin option on ghash.io..I set it up as others nothing worked ....went to the ghash.io LTC/DODGE and
I see what I think is the common flush and stale share issues....so KNC has other problems inter-related some equip works on some pools some don't ..I have version
1.05 which is what it came with


Is it any chance to get miner if i order from them now ?


get on ebay they are going upopened in the box for 4K or so last I looked this one just sold for such today

http://www.ebay.com/itm/KNC-Titan-Scrypt-Miner-New-In-Box-Ready-To-Ship-/201206395139?pt=US_Virtual_Currency&hash=item2ed8d5f103

not sure it pays but if you want a TOY you sure don't want to pay 10k for one Smiley

if you do want to pay 10k for one we can negotiate accordingly (hey mine even kinda works shocked is what I am...although
of the 5 guys posting on knc forums same couple days as mine they arrived.... the other 4 were er..not so much....
dumb and lucky is a lousy way to push your products out....KNC seems to think they can continue to wind the rubber band
on this toy way to mnfg stuff





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November 10, 2014, 12:21:18 AM
Is it any chance to get miner if i order from them now ?
legendary
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ex uno plures
November 09, 2014, 02:10:32 PM
The pissy little twinks who moderate the KNC support forum are getting all stressed out about the wall of outrage that is washing over their tidy little nanny state lives and threatening people who speak up about problems with the ban hammer again. As the poster says, we all know where trying to manage bad news by banning forum members and deleting posts gets you in the internet age.

http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/main-category/hardware/66769-titan-impression-so-far


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Keith commented
[COLOR=#6A6A6A !important]Yesterday, 03:13 AM[/COLOR]


You've got a bad habit of posting incorrect details as fact, it will not be tolerated and your posts will be deleted. Continue to post in that fashion and your account will be banned. RMA's are handled on a case by case basis depending on the details we receive from each customer.

Keith, this is taken directly from an email from you to a customer that was posted in another thread. I am not making it up. Here is the quote:

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Keith (kncminer)
Nov 06 09:21
Hi,
Apologies for the delay in reply. We offer return shipping for components that are DOA or similar. We have provided recommendations and steps to ensure that the cubes port do not burn, they can usually only burn if the connector is not making full contact on all 6 pins as the power then only travels down a few of the pins and overloads them.
We will repair/replace the cube and send it back to you in the quickest way possible.

Med vänlig hälsning | Best regards
Keith Gurnett
Kncminer
www.kncminer.com
Office: +46 8559 253 20


As far as banning my account goes, you are free to do that anytime you want. It will look really good to the world to see that KNC is banning customers from their support forum who paid $10000 dollars for a product that doesn't work right, was delivered late, is unsafe to operate and comes with RMA policies that disavow responsibility by forcing customers to pay return shipping for burnt PCI-e connectors.

We all know where trying to control bad news by banning peope from forums gets a company on the internet. Its not like your forum is the only place where people talk about KNC and report on KNC products and services. KNC already have a reputation for trying to manage bad news and outspoken customers by banning posters and deleting content. If you ban me without warning and just cause, your action will be considered a breach of contract for restricting my access as a KNC customer to product support information and services.

If you have any other examples of my 'bad habit of posting incorrect details as fact' please point them out and I will be happy to debate them with you here on a case by case basis.

​Otherwise I will accept your apology for your unfounded accusations.

backup copy of forum post at http://imgur.com/Hji5N3q in case hammerhead deletes the post.

As predicted - permanently banned by Kurt for 'being rude' and my post was deleted. They started acting nervous when I told them I was going to thoroughly test v1.06 when released to make sure all the promised Titan functionality worked and if it didn't ask for a refund based on KNC's failure to deliver a 'working' product.  KNC likes to manage public perceptions of what 'working' means. In their world, it means mining LTC on KNC approved pools. In the real world it means, as KNC said in their advertising, being suitable for 'any scrypt application'. That means p2pool, fast block time coins, coin switching pools, load balancing etc at an average of 300MH/s.

A week or two after v1.06 comes out I'll publish a test report. I'd like nothing more to discover that the Titan finally works and can be used in 'any scrypt application' after KNC finally release v1.06


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November 09, 2014, 11:11:10 AM
P2pool adress
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ex uno plures
November 09, 2014, 09:30:12 AM

I blows my mind that KNC have "sold" non working titans worth 10-20 million dollars and get away with it... how is that fucking possible ?


mine is working...

We all know that after 5 firmware releases some people can mine some coins on some pools some of the time at 300 MH/s. LTC on KNC approved pools is generally unproblematic. Try p2pool, fast block time coins, load balancing and nicehash.

KNC is hoping to fix some of this stuff in v1.06. We'll see ...
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Clueless!
November 09, 2014, 04:03:02 AM

I blows my mind that KNC have "sold" non working titans worth 10-20 million dollars and get away with it... how is that fucking possible ?


mine is working...but then again I was almost EXACTLY in the middle of the 1st batch of miners...mine also came with version 1.05 installed which would
lead me to believe it is more recent...on 1 cube I have 2 dies not even showing up...all other dies on the other 3 cubes work...so running around 300mh

but then again had no luck as knc said with multipool on ghash.io all rejects mostly (finally remembered it was screen -dr in putty not -rd duh!)

have just switched within the last 1/2 hour to ghash.io litecoin pool and it is more stable still lots of clashes/stale/flushing going on but that
is a KNC firmware issue yet

my goals are modest it does not SO FAR look like it is going to burn house down been around 4 hrs up more or less...ghash.io pool has me confused on
how exactly you keep track of ltc and dodge they are currently mining ..but for another day

so anyway yeah...if it just kinda sorta mines ltc and maybe someday the firmware can do multipool etc with 25% back equip depreciation (biz) I JUST MAY
get 1/2 of my original price for this 'future' doorstop

I am very very very very very lucky however the 3 cubes I have have NO bad dies the 1 cube has 2 bad dies I still more/less ave 300mh

but it seems to be all the luck of the draw on all this ..you'd think they'd toss us an extra cube (there is a port for one) crap they even
compensated the frankenjupiters for crying out loud

but IF I was not a LEGAL miner in us with the biz option and more or less KNOW i can get 25% back eventually on the purchase price I think I may

have simply sent it back unopened (gamble) and try to get full refund or more likely it would be sitting on ebay right now at 4.2K unopened buy it now

but for the biz angle above....I would suggest EBAY if you don't open it and don't test it at least you don't know if it works or not honestly
point that out to whomever and sell it with a clean honest mind.....the warranty etc can go thru KNC after that fact

but maybe just maybe I can get more then that 4.2k back mining the beast with the above now.....*then again it could still croak*

ah the joys of being a home bitcoin miner...we are a dying breed mostly because of the stake being driven into our back by buying these
machines.....a perfect circle...of predator and prey.......newbie that I was ...live and learn I guess

(ah the small things in life the miner has not burned up ..yet?....simple goals)

again hopefully those hero's who sent the units back or the others (class action or swedish consumer etc) others will take part in and myself
we can get something back ..but I suspect the most likely winners will be those who have the *balls* to send the Titan back unopened in that
14 day period..if so they deserve it for the risk/pushing it



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November 09, 2014, 03:42:05 AM
It blows my mind that KNC have "sold" non working titans worth 10-20 million dollars and get away with it... how is that fucking possible ?
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Clueless!
November 08, 2014, 11:42:24 PM
OK in the spirit of honesty .....I may have to grovel here a bit........(well at least on my 1st hour running the Titan)
may even have to (shudder) grovel on KNC forums (ack!)

using 3 of cablez Y adapters 16awg and one direct connect (found out my other y connector was 18awg) (ie recommend cablez Y connectors pm him)

2 corsair 1200i units running on 2 20 amp circuits (overkill) using 2 seperate triplite euro 220v surge protectors each circuit

http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-EURO-4-International-Protector/dp/B00006HZ4M/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1415506961&sr=8-1-fkmr1&keywords=triplite+euro+4

(what the heck the 120v version works flawlessly on my oct 550gh jupiter...went for it ....anything hic ups....fire etc it will go down pronto)

instead of paper clips on psu power connectors I used TWO of these antminer dealies (no idea why they looked cute and were on ebay...the price was less 2 months ago)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antminer-ASIC-Bitcoin-ATX-Jumper-Switch-Run-PSU-Power-Supply-w-o-Motherboard-/281483366917?pt=US_Power_Cables_Connectors&hash=item4189b75205

well all said and done the Titan seems to be working the first hour flawlessly (unless I'm missing something on the knc miner page)

using ghash.io mulit scrypt coin pool

did not set any difficulty or anything just this



stratum+tcp://multi.ghash.io:3333


worker etc

viola

supposedly? you can set difficulty manually on ghash.io ....so not sure if there are better options
seems to be auto adjusting difficulty (the Titan or the pool whatever) currently after a bit more
then 1 hour WU is 4 difficulty is 362 ...again this is the multipool option at ghash.io and currently
mining litecoin and dodge as the choice

anyway first hour all is well plugs are very cool (not sure if this applies to the internal temps of such)

damn KNC got into my head was damn sure was gonna get stiffed ..I guess being in the middle of the pack on the orders helped
..i assume this is true because this unit shipped with version 1.05 *but no y cables*

anyway still puckered up I am (its a plot) but 1st hour seems golden it is hashing between 285 and 325mh

only have 3 led lights on the knc board plug'd into the pi thou.....and one red light is on all the time pp10 it is
labeled i assume that is normal or I have 1 led lcd cable light out and should show 4 lites

anyway may have to eat crow it seems to work ...then again 7 weeks late

only other latent cooling effect on the control board and such is I have the cubes stacked 2/2 and
the they are sitting on 1/4" plate glass (got it one time with a bank desk) just in case ..on a wood
work bench....very very cool to the touch ...the titan controller board may like this cooling effect

anyway to those interested in the above..to those not feel free to /ignore me ...(don't want to ruin peoples day)


p.s. getting a lot of stale shares (1/2) on this pool thou ..changed difficulty as was recommended by some to 8192 .but maybe this don't work so good
on multipool side..the Titan on reboot simply starts over and auto adjusts up from 0 ...so we will see... i guess..

may have to try other pools i guess..just correcting above....(making good time no idea where the puppy is going)

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November 08, 2014, 10:14:37 PM
The pissy little twinks who moderate the KNC support forum are getting all stressed out about the wall of outrage that is washing over their tidy little nanny state lives and threatening people who speak up about problems with the ban hammer again. As the poster says, we all know where trying to manage bad news by banning forum members and deleting posts gets you in the internet age.

http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/main-category/hardware/66769-titan-impression-so-far


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Keith commented
[COLOR=#6A6A6A !important]Yesterday, 03:13 AM[/COLOR]


You've got a bad habit of posting incorrect details as fact, it will not be tolerated and your posts will be deleted. Continue to post in that fashion and your account will be banned. RMA's are handled on a case by case basis depending on the details we receive from each customer.

Keith, this is taken directly from an email from you to a customer that was posted in another thread. I am not making it up. Here is the quote:

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Keith (kncminer)
Nov 06 09:21
Hi,
Apologies for the delay in reply. We offer return shipping for components that are DOA or similar. We have provided recommendations and steps to ensure that the cubes port do not burn, they can usually only burn if the connector is not making full contact on all 6 pins as the power then only travels down a few of the pins and overloads them.
We will repair/replace the cube and send it back to you in the quickest way possible.

Med vänlig hälsning | Best regards
Keith Gurnett
Kncminer
www.kncminer.com
Office: +46 8559 253 20


As far as banning my account goes, you are free to do that anytime you want. It will look really good to the world to see that KNC is banning customers from their support forum who paid $10000 dollars for a product that doesn't work right, was delivered late, is unsafe to operate and comes with RMA policies that disavow responsibility by forcing customers to pay return shipping for burnt PCI-e connectors.

We all know where trying to control bad news by banning peope from forums gets a company on the internet. Its not like your forum is the only place where people talk about KNC and report on KNC products and services. KNC already have a reputation for trying to manage bad news and outspoken customers by banning posters and deleting content. If you ban me without warning and just cause, your action will be considered a breach of contract for restricting my access as a KNC customer to product support information and services.

If you have any other examples of my 'bad habit of posting incorrect details as fact' please point them out and I will be happy to debate them with you here on a case by case basis.

​Otherwise I will accept your apology for your unfounded accusations.

backup copy of forum post at http://imgur.com/Hji5N3q in case hammerhead deletes the post.
Post deleted, member banned. What a bunch of spineless arseholes.

 You weren't expecting a sudden display of ethical behaviour from them really, were you?  They are pricks.

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November 08, 2014, 09:42:36 PM
The pissy little twinks who moderate the KNC support forum are getting all stressed out about the wall of outrage that is washing over their tidy little nanny state lives and threatening people who speak up about problems with the ban hammer again. As the poster says, we all know where trying to manage bad news by banning forum members and deleting posts gets you in the internet age.

http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/main-category/hardware/66769-titan-impression-so-far


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Keith commented
[COLOR=#6A6A6A !important]Yesterday, 03:13 AM[/COLOR]


You've got a bad habit of posting incorrect details as fact, it will not be tolerated and your posts will be deleted. Continue to post in that fashion and your account will be banned. RMA's are handled on a case by case basis depending on the details we receive from each customer.

Keith, this is taken directly from an email from you to a customer that was posted in another thread. I am not making it up. Here is the quote:

Quote
Keith (kncminer)
Nov 06 09:21
Hi,
Apologies for the delay in reply. We offer return shipping for components that are DOA or similar. We have provided recommendations and steps to ensure that the cubes port do not burn, they can usually only burn if the connector is not making full contact on all 6 pins as the power then only travels down a few of the pins and overloads them.
We will repair/replace the cube and send it back to you in the quickest way possible.

Med vänlig hälsning | Best regards
Keith Gurnett
Kncminer
www.kncminer.com
Office: +46 8559 253 20


As far as banning my account goes, you are free to do that anytime you want. It will look really good to the world to see that KNC is banning customers from their support forum who paid $10000 dollars for a product that doesn't work right, was delivered late, is unsafe to operate and comes with RMA policies that disavow responsibility by forcing customers to pay return shipping for burnt PCI-e connectors.

We all know where trying to control bad news by banning peope from forums gets a company on the internet. Its not like your forum is the only place where people talk about KNC and report on KNC products and services. KNC already have a reputation for trying to manage bad news and outspoken customers by banning posters and deleting content. If you ban me without warning and just cause, your action will be considered a breach of contract for restricting my access as a KNC customer to product support information and services.

If you have any other examples of my 'bad habit of posting incorrect details as fact' please point them out and I will be happy to debate them with you here on a case by case basis.

​Otherwise I will accept your apology for your unfounded accusations.

backup copy of forum post at http://imgur.com/Hji5N3q in case hammerhead deletes the post.
Post deleted, member banned. What a bunch of spineless arseholes.
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November 08, 2014, 09:36:40 PM
My RMA experiences have been nothing like that.  I sent them information about the problem on the first one and they started to go thru the problem solving issues.  After the first return email - the next day - I replied with images of the ssh screens and the advanced page and status page with and without the defective unit.  The next day they had UPS send me a RMA return package, and they received the unit in 2 days at absolutely no cost to me, although they warned me that if I sent more than one unit back they would charge me for the extra shipping cost.  The second unit failed about 2 weeks later. This time I sent them the issues and images at the same time and within 2 days received another RMA return from UPS, and it was received 2 days later.  I find that just trying to get the problem resolved and not playing the blame game has been working for me.  

I have not received any info about the second RMA as yet, but they did offer me the 2 for 1 exchange on the first one.  I tried to get some idea of when the next asics would be available and could get no commitment to any timeline from them.  I am choosing to wait for new ones as they should (hopefully) perform better.
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Clueless!
November 08, 2014, 08:49:55 PM
I see in other forum they RMA each cube with extra one?? Is this way to excuse or what? The wall start bending Cheesy

no last I heard you RMA a cube back your cost $400 they only pay if the WHOLE KNC miner is a dead beast other wise you pay to them
they pay back.....then they send you and email saying it takes
7-8weeks to RMA your cube...or so it has been posted here and knc forum

not a lot of happy people about the above

hopefully this has changed but this is what I've read up until recently

legendary
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November 08, 2014, 06:24:22 PM
Should be nicer than a porsche, maybe a Mclaren   lol

That is unless he ordered a 918.
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November 08, 2014, 04:01:29 PM
Should be nicer than a porsche, maybe a Mclaren   lol
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November 08, 2014, 03:59:47 PM
the CEO of KNC is just ordering his new porsche from your 10.000$ miners.

Thanks alot !!
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November 08, 2014, 01:13:14 PM
The 2 for 1 RMA replacements are defective units.  They have die issues but are supposed to give the performance of 1 cube.  I personally think they should build a little good will and send out 2 for 1 new units when they are available, but I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.
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November 08, 2014, 11:10:52 AM
I see in other forum they RMA each cube with extra one?? Is this way to excuse or what? The wall start bending Cheesy
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ex uno plures
November 08, 2014, 08:41:57 AM
The pissy little twinks who moderate the KNC support forum are getting all stressed out about the wall of outrage that is washing over their tidy little nanny state lives and threatening people who speak up about problems with the ban hammer again. As the poster says, we all know where trying to manage bad news by banning forum members and deleting posts gets you in the internet age.

http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/main-category/hardware/66769-titan-impression-so-far


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Keith commented
[COLOR=#6A6A6A !important]Yesterday, 03:13 AM[/COLOR]


You've got a bad habit of posting incorrect details as fact, it will not be tolerated and your posts will be deleted. Continue to post in that fashion and your account will be banned. RMA's are handled on a case by case basis depending on the details we receive from each customer.

Keith, this is taken directly from an email from you to a customer that was posted in another thread. I am not making it up. Here is the quote:

Quote
Keith (kncminer)
Nov 06 09:21
Hi,
Apologies for the delay in reply. We offer return shipping for components that are DOA or similar. We have provided recommendations and steps to ensure that the cubes port do not burn, they can usually only burn if the connector is not making full contact on all 6 pins as the power then only travels down a few of the pins and overloads them.
We will repair/replace the cube and send it back to you in the quickest way possible.

Med vänlig hälsning | Best regards
Keith Gurnett
Kncminer
www.kncminer.com
Office: +46 8559 253 20


As far as banning my account goes, you are free to do that anytime you want. It will look really good to the world to see that KNC is banning customers from their support forum who paid $10000 dollars for a product that doesn't work right, was delivered late, is unsafe to operate and comes with RMA policies that disavow responsibility by forcing customers to pay return shipping for burnt PCI-e connectors.

We all know where trying to control bad news by banning peope from forums gets a company on the internet. Its not like your forum is the only place where people talk about KNC and report on KNC products and services. KNC already have a reputation for trying to manage bad news and outspoken customers by banning posters and deleting content. If you ban me without warning and just cause, your action will be considered a breach of contract for restricting my access as a KNC customer to product support information and services.

If you have any other examples of my 'bad habit of posting incorrect details as fact' please point them out and I will be happy to debate them with you here on a case by case basis.

​Otherwise I will accept your apology for your unfounded accusations.

backup copy of forum post at http://imgur.com/Hji5N3q in case hammerhead deletes the post.
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Clueless!
November 08, 2014, 05:22:23 AM
Well got the Titan ...11/7/14...been stalling setting it up.....2 guys on kncforums today posted they just got theirs and their whole units are  dead
zippo 2 for 2........ie nothing works....should have just gone directly to the install guide and avoided new msgs there I guess...

it is hardly encouraging...tried to get fired up by going to the movie Interstellar (good movie) did little to improve my mood.....

so off to at least get the thing unboxed and kinda sorta set up...I think I should probably drink heavily before actually turning it on thou

(slogs off to try....but man...I was not this pessimistic even when my Jupiter 550gh last Oct arrived with a soggy box/unit filled with rain water)

ah when I believed in KNC engineering....was such a sweet newbie fool...er now ...eh..not so much

(perhaps drinking heavily while setting it up is the answer )



i'm with faetos. just torch it -you know it's gonna go that way eventually anyway.


yep fun times...I of course DID NOT as promised get the Y cables from KNC with the Titan of 11/7/14 ...as promised the last couple weeks (my view is a lot of this stuff
was made and sitting around on the vain hope of a tech or firmware fix for the last 3 weeks but I'm probably biased)

the shakmods long y adapters I purchased ...just in case (end of aug remember supposed to get this knc titan by sept right?) they are incorrect...duh...shoulda
checked them out...but did not do so..duh

have 3 16awg y adapters from cablez (pm'd him for 2 more when I get the price) and 1 18awg y adapter from shakmods (thought it was 16awg) so maybe
I can limp by till something shows up (do you feel lucky....er not so much)

wtf screwed anyway if it blows up....less stuff to worry about (I got too much stuff anyway)

again almost? glad I had to set this up as a biz and filed taxes as such...I at least can get 1/4 of this damn Titan back over 5 years as equip depreciation
 .....7.6k still sucks but still better then 10,131.80....would be nice to MINE SOMETHING on the vain hope of getting the purchase down to only 1/2 of the
investment back...(I know I'm still a dreamer)

(then again the product seems to be 'evil' could burn house down.....exciting times we live in)

anyway screw it all for tonight ..... I'll try to burn the house down tomorrow ( good to have goals)


as to the Titan I'm probably better off just thinking of the thing (less the 25% I may get back equip deduction) as a complete loss....wtf...if that is too pessimistic
I can be pleasantly surprised when the shit actually works or does not blow up burn cables or whatever ...rather if it turns out to be not a complete brick....then the gloomy scenario of thinking the crap can't get any worse from KNC ...I have recently concluded that 'worse' to knc is as bottomless as the ocean depths of the arctic they take their arctic cloud hashing name from..no matter how bad or how much it does not work....the reply is...."you did not seat the cables correctly' or some such nonsense

yeah setting it on fire would have the blissful wonderfulness of a conclusion to all this .....



Quote from: Kurt on KnC Forum

Refusal to accept delivery is a breach of contract. Any costs for this (such as for transportation, storage and care of returned goods) will be charged to the customer refusing to accept delivery. Should the refusal to accept delivery continue, we will follow Swedish law and take the steps and measures necessary to look after our interests.

Your product not performing to the specifications advertised is a breach of contract.

Whether B2B or B2C you're the ones breaching the terms of the sale by trying to force delivery of a product that falls short of that which was paid for.

As for blaming the pools, what are they claiming exactly is wrong with the pools? I've had multiple Innosilicon A2 90's hashing as a single user on numerous pools without issue, so what mystical force are they claiming is behind their Titan not being able to function properly on them?



last I heard the claim was the KNC Titan was 'too powerful' for the pools to handle ..yeah I about fell off my seat at that as well ..they have backed off some (not much still won't fess up to it being their issue)...but initially that was what customers were told....something along the lines of "as was the case when asics came out pools had to adjust to this new reality" or some such BS if I remember correctly (gag)


 
legendary
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November 08, 2014, 05:04:23 AM

I see lots of new details in the terms and conditions - https://www.kncminer.com/pages/tandc

any one wish to list the changes made from August ? - http://web.archive.org/web/20140818114553/https://www.kncminer.com/pages/tandc
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