being retarded in more ways than one is hardly the same as being gullible.
and then 'FREAAKing out' at other peoples comprehension skills while you yourself remain willfully ignorant and aggressively retarded is sadly hilarious.
@Tolip - i dont think im part of any pity party (other than its a pity KnC are cunts), im actually glad i refunded when i did and wish id done it sooner!
YOU, ConMan & probably ElasticBand are the ONLY guys i know of that should have stuck with their orders.
@ ArcticFox 'not caring' that you lost value, thats pretty disingenuous for someone smart enough to be here in the first place. (dont.be.a.phoenix!)
but each to his own, i understand where you are coming from but KNOW there were better options for you that you chose to 'not care about'
Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 308. (Read 3049515 times)
Q1/Q2 implies possibility in Q1 Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Admittedly, I was gullible enough to think it was a possibility. 
Advertising in most industries is similar.
Been there, done that, got the Tshirt and stitches.
tolip always asks self "tolip you paid for your education, why sleep thru class?"
I vow to pay attention in class and think I make progress.
Then I find myself in line for another Tshirt.
This happens often to bleeding edge junkies.
I just decorate with dried blood colors and move on.
BFL learned me good though.
With KnC my expectations were close to what was delivered.
Perhaps I am teachable, at least in some industries!
YMMV
P.S. tolip is talking to self, about self, in 3rd person again. Place the call!
Q1/Q2 implies possibility in Q1 Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Admittedly, I was gullible enough to think it was a possibility. I frequently got such error message:
KnC: 3.3.328 disabled for 300 seconds due to repeated hardware errors
(the number varies)
Is it normal? My neppy is running at 475MHz and the overal hashrate is around 2.8-3.1 TH/s
KnC: 3.3.328 disabled for 300 seconds due to repeated hardware errors
(the number varies)
Is it normal? My neppy is running at 475MHz and the overal hashrate is around 2.8-3.1 TH/s
It is normal
What matters is pool stats.
7200 @ 475 = 3.42T
3.3T is what I would expect @ pool.
Most ASIC have a few core that do not work,
and some that kind of work sometimes,
and most that work great.
With Neptune and 7200 cores the chatter adjusting core is much more than Hoopiter.
Older ASIC do it too but you gotta stare at screen longer to see it.
I figure it's 1-4% flapping on/off every 5 minutes.
over 10 every minute @ 1% flapping.
Not ideal but still way over 3T at the pool.
YMMV
http://instagram.com/p/qKTBTnwqg-/ - knc cloud in action
What are we looking at? A screencap would be much better than a blurry photo, lol.
haha well im promoting new hashtag #miningporn on instagram.
here is screencap for you!
so 0,1BTC a day on cloud now.
http://instagram.com/p/qKTBTnwqg-/ - knc cloud in action
What are we looking at? A screencap would be much better than a blurry photo, lol.
I frequently got such error message:
KnC: 3.3.328 disabled for 300 seconds due to repeated hardware errors
(the number varies)
Is it normal? My neppy is running at 475MHz and the overal hashrate is around 2.8-3.1 TH/s
KnC: 3.3.328 disabled for 300 seconds due to repeated hardware errors
(the number varies)
Is it normal? My neppy is running at 475MHz and the overal hashrate is around 2.8-3.1 TH/s
That sounds a little low and could be related to the HW errors you are seeing... I just did a write up on what I did to optimize power and reduce HW errors on the hacking thread that should be of use to you:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7746055
I frequently got such error message:
KnC: 3.3.328 disabled for 300 seconds due to repeated hardware errors
(the number varies)
Is it normal? My neppy is running at 475MHz and the overal hashrate is around 2.8-3.1 TH/s
KnC: 3.3.328 disabled for 300 seconds due to repeated hardware errors
(the number varies)
Is it normal? My neppy is running at 475MHz and the overal hashrate is around 2.8-3.1 TH/s
thank you for your kind reply! @proclivity @samsonn25
thank you for your reply!
Actually both my corsair and coolermaster are using 18awg cables. but corsair uses 8-pin at PSU side, while CM uses 6-pin. I use one pci-e cable from corsair in replace of CM, and the temperature becomes normal.
Why 6-pin and 8-pin connector make a big temperature difference?
If they are the same AWG, one might have smaller strands than the other. Smaller strands reduce current carrying capacity. The wire may be a different alloy or different material (it could be aluminum..). Another scenario is that the pins in the PSU connector are not as tight, are not well bonded to the wire, or are of lower quality. The wire then acts as a heat sink to the connector, carrying heat away from the PSU along its length.
If the wire is a very similar temperature along its full length then it is the wire itself, if it's hotter toward the PSU its only a problem with the connector.
Regardless of the cause, hot connectors/wires ultimately are not not safe and can often result in a fire. You'll want to come up with a way to reduce the current through the connector/wire and eliminate the heat source. In the interim, make sure you keep it cool.
Usually 8 pin pcie is thicker wire than 6 pin pcie. Also 8 pin carry more power than 6 pin connection. Or same power but less heat depends on how you look at it.
Hi. I am using three 850W PSU (1x corsair RM850 and 2x CoolerMaster V850) to power the neppy. I noticed that the temperature varies on the PCI-E cables: on the CM v850, from PSU side to the Neppy, the temperature decreases along the PCI-E cable: i.e. at the connector to the PSU, it is really hot! in the middle it is warm; and at the neppy side connector it feels normal.
I read some previous posts that someone has the connector or PCI-E cable melted. I am afraid my cable may have the same problems. Why the PCI-E cable is so hot (especially at the PSU connector side)? What should I do to prevent it from melting?
While the two CoolerMaster PSU's pci-e cable is hot, the cable on Corsair RM850 is not warm at all. Why Corsair's cable is much colder than CM's?
Thank you for your attention!
I read some previous posts that someone has the connector or PCI-E cable melted. I am afraid my cable may have the same problems. Why the PCI-E cable is so hot (especially at the PSU connector side)? What should I do to prevent it from melting?
While the two CoolerMaster PSU's pci-e cable is hot, the cable on Corsair RM850 is not warm at all. Why Corsair's cable is much colder than CM's?
Thank you for your attention!
I've had more than one melt on me with the Jupiters. The wires on your CoolerMastet are probably 18AWG, and the ones on Corsair are 16AWG which has a higher capacity to carry current.
You're going to want to use a fan to keep the wire and connector cool in the short term. In the long term I'd recommend building or buying a wire harness that will lower your risk of a fire.
thank you for your reply!
Actually both my corsair and coolermaster are using 18awg cables. but corsair uses 8-pin at PSU side, while CM uses 6-pin. I use one pci-e cable from corsair in replace of CM, and the temperature becomes normal.
Why 6-pin and 8-pin connector make a big temperature difference?
http://instagram.com/p/qKTBTnwqg-/ - knc cloud in action
Q1/Q2 implies possibility in Q1 Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Perhaps, to KnC management it looked like a betrayal and sophisticated hedging strategies, but I think it was quite simple-just math.
They shouldn't have promised Q1/Q2 shipping. They lied about shipping in Q1, and rightly people refunded when they failed to meet it.
when did they say Q1 shipping?
Perhaps, to KnC management it looked like a betrayal and sophisticated hedging strategies, but I think it was quite simple-just math.
They shouldn't have promised Q1/Q2 shipping. They lied about shipping in Q1, and rightly people refunded when they failed to meet it.
Regarding refunds.
I think that most people went into ordering Neptune because we expected it in March, maybe April, at least I was.
Then in January-February it slipped out that development is not that far off from the drawing board and datorhall pictures were posted, upsetting some.
This caused the first wave of refunds.
Second wave was caused by the depressed price of BTC where it became obvious that it would be difficult to make any money at those prices.
Perhaps, to KnC management it looked like a betrayal and sophisticated hedging strategies, but I think it was quite simple-just math.
However, going forward, i don't think that pre-ordering money collection would work to the same level of success as with Neptune. There are too many entrenched players with a low cost base. The only thing that could re-invigorate the pre-orders is a spike in BTC price.
I think that most people went into ordering Neptune because we expected it in March, maybe April, at least I was.
Then in January-February it slipped out that development is not that far off from the drawing board and datorhall pictures were posted, upsetting some.
This caused the first wave of refunds.
Second wave was caused by the depressed price of BTC where it became obvious that it would be difficult to make any money at those prices.
Perhaps, to KnC management it looked like a betrayal and sophisticated hedging strategies, but I think it was quite simple-just math.
However, going forward, i don't think that pre-ordering money collection would work to the same level of success as with Neptune. There are too many entrenched players with a low cost base. The only thing that could re-invigorate the pre-orders is a spike in BTC price.
gentlemen, to your corners.
all in good fun. I mean no harm
gentlemen, to your corners.
I just noticed your sig:
You've accepted you've been screwed. Therefore, why all the fuss?
You do realise if you mine 5BTC with a Neptune and the price of BTC skyrockets to $2000/coin, all that means to you is you make back what you spent.
The guys with sense and good timing got back 22BTC for Neptune refunds. And if the price of BTC skyrockets to $2000/coin, they will have pocketed a cool $44,000. With no hassles, no electricity costs, no RMA's etc.
Argue away, but you do know you were screwed by KNC. I don't see why you are defending them. Unless it's Stockholm Syndrome
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My BTC mining address : 1NoRoihSKUCsXy1XKuy5KaFhqZsad1ETUn
You've accepted you've been screwed. Therefore, why all the fuss?
You do realise if you mine 5BTC with a Neptune and the price of BTC skyrockets to $2000/coin, all that means to you is you make back what you spent.
The guys with sense and good timing got back 22BTC for Neptune refunds. And if the price of BTC skyrockets to $2000/coin, they will have pocketed a cool $44,000. With no hassles, no electricity costs, no RMA's etc.
Argue away, but you do know you were screwed by KNC. I don't see why you are defending them. Unless it's Stockholm Syndrome
i got 21 BTC in fiat back from my originally bought Neptune with ~11 BTC. Thank you KNC for giving me the option to refund at around $1150 BTC price. Zero reason for me to hold on to my Neptune order in February when i can just get twice the amount of BTC without the risk of ASIC preorder blues.
Bought 20 BTC when it was ~$40
preordered a Neptune with ~11 BTC
refunded and used the fiat to buy ~21 BTC
zero heartache now about KNC screwing me over.
Funny thing about refunds, they only help the company with confidence of its consumers if they actually stick to their promises and production schedule.
I can guarantee you im not the only one that was keen enough to understand that if you used BTC to order a neptune at the high of the price then you basically locked in selling BTC at that price if you refunded.
Im not surprised they eventually are flipping over their refund policy. They are probably bleeding BTC for fiat like crazy now that it costs twice as much BTC to get fiat refunds into peoples hands.
Go back and re-sharpen that pencil.... I find this hard to believe... You refunded on the opening day of Neptune preorder and made coin?
The price never went that high at any time during the Neptune pre-order "refund era",
Neptunes went up for preorder on December 2nd, and the price was indeed "peaking" around the 1150 price you quote...
It then went down from that day, and NEVER returned.... so how could you have possibly refunded at 1150 and still make coin?
Impossible. You would have had to have refunded at a LOWER price to make coin on that deal.
It's obvious you came here to join the trolling bandwagon with a fistfull of Bullshit.
If you're gonna make shit up, at least get the numbers right.
There is nothing wrong with that math. If you bought a Neptune with 11 BTC worth $13K USD and you get a refund of $13K USD, then buy 21BTC, then you just earned 10BTC.
You are easily fooled... he said he refunded at 1150... Which is total bullshit. That's opening day for Neppie pre-order.
...and that price lasted MOMENTS on Neppie preorder opening day... there's no way KNC refunded so quickly either. Every refund took WEEKS to MONTHS!
Obvious lies.
NOBODY refunded at 1150, That's quite Impossible.
Seriously buddy, go take a reading comprehension course! It's very obvious that you have a serious deficiency in this area.
He ordered when BTC was $1150 and refunded when BTC was nearly half of the original value, hence his profit in BTC.
I just noticed your sig:
You've accepted you've been screwed. Therefore, why all the fuss?
You do realise if you mine 5BTC with a Neptune and the price of BTC skyrockets to $2000/coin, all that means to you is you make back what you spent.
The guys with sense and good timing got back 22BTC for Neptune refunds. And if the price of BTC skyrockets to $2000/coin, they will have pocketed a cool $44,000. With no hassles, no electricity costs, no RMA's etc.
Argue away, but you do know you were screwed by KNC. I don't see why you are defending them. Unless it's Stockholm Syndrome
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My BTC mining address : 1NoRoihSKUCsXy1XKuy5KaFhqZsad1ETUn
You've accepted you've been screwed. Therefore, why all the fuss?
You do realise if you mine 5BTC with a Neptune and the price of BTC skyrockets to $2000/coin, all that means to you is you make back what you spent.
The guys with sense and good timing got back 22BTC for Neptune refunds. And if the price of BTC skyrockets to $2000/coin, they will have pocketed a cool $44,000. With no hassles, no electricity costs, no RMA's etc.
Argue away, but you do know you were screwed by KNC. I don't see why you are defending them. Unless it's Stockholm Syndrome
i got 21 BTC in fiat back from my originally bought Neptune with ~11 BTC. Thank you KNC for giving me the option to refund at around $1150 BTC price. Zero reason for me to hold on to my Neptune order in February when i can just get twice the amount of BTC without the risk of ASIC preorder blues.
Bought 20 BTC when it was ~$40 ------------------------ great so far
preordered a Neptune with ~11 BTC----------------------- okay... so you bought around 909 (11btc for a 10k machine is 909)
refunded and used the fiat to buy ~21 BTC--------------- Hold on.. refunded and got 21BTC on December 2nd(only day price was 1150), the same day you ordered? Refunding at 1150 when bought at 909 results in a BTC loss, not a gain. When it took weeks and months for people to get refunds? Refunding a Neptune at 1150 bought for 10k would yeild 8.69BTC, not 21, which is a loss of 2.31BTC if bought for 11BTC
zero heartache now about KNC screwing me over.
Funny thing about refunds, they only help the company with confidence of its consumers if they actually stick to their promises and production schedule.
I can guarantee you im not the only one that was keen enough to understand that if you used BTC to order a neptune at the high of the price then you basically locked in selling BTC at that price if you refunded.
Im not surprised they eventually are flipping over their refund policy. They are probably bleeding BTC for fiat like crazy now that it costs twice as much BTC to get fiat refunds into peoples hands.
*If he did any business with KNC at 1150/BTC, that would make him a "CA Batch" customer.
With that in mind... he would have had 28nm machines to talk about back in October-November...
busted. 
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