Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 403. (Read 3050076 times)

I'm not selling anything either. I'm just supporting a good company with a good miner and also I'm trying to donate something to charities and to bitcoin software developers.

There is nothing to match.

What mining equipment do you own right now?

The key ingredient here is to use people's pre order money to currently mine then resell the used equipment at market price and keep lowering as diff increases but they are mining them in meantime.  They can go as low as their cost to build the machine.  They get away with what they can.  No one wants to be a hero now with the difficulty rising and with buyers buying less equipment as they suspect the jig is up. Meaning they know the game is  up soon.  

Companies in China can design and manufacture faster for themselves.  Such as bitmain and others.  Less r and d now because they improve what they can from previous gen. Not trying to be pioneers as time is too much of a risk factor.

August had 2 batches....spondoolies was imho trying to grab market share
thus the 4495 group buy offer with free shipping other discounts ....to again get
market share (which i think they did ) new kid on the block and all trying to show 'chops'

the 5K for september is the batch 1 offer...not sure of price on batch 2 for september offer

spondoolies is in house they farm stuff out 'continuously' as they can ..build as they go...thus the above batch arrangement
which seems to get the stuff out in the timeline they mention (so far) with little trouble

but as in my previous post

at 575 coin...just buy coin....elec and a/c etc at least for me at 15c kwh even at a low 40 diff increase a month in my case anyway

buying bitcoin right now vs equipment is dead even from my guesses/calcs

(hey again no slam we are all guessing here)

but timeline/vs $$$ invested in the equip is the issue...KNC at this time is over priced imho that may change..to 'salvage' the
Neptune to at least a break even situation...they need to get everyone's their equip in hand by July 15th (same  2 week rush
out like original 28mm equip last oct 2013)...with that done again imho it is a wash..neptune has advantage and sorta ok with the
somewhat 'dated' 3rd batch 3th offer later...so all would be good imho or as good as buying equip can be at this time vs buying
coin with the past refund at 450 a couple months back heh..but we are talking equip here...so they would salvage much imho

if people don't get equip (or equiv plan b hashing) till say middle of august well ouch...they took a 'credibility" hit big time esp
for repeat customers imho

anyway my view i know squat..i have a Titan (no refund) coming ..the above is my warped view

er as an added point if time is the key ...you can within 48 hours have from www.bitmain.com ship a 1 TH unit at $2261 USd so for $6783 usd that is like getting your Neptune in 1 week...so this link right now BEATS EVERYBODY imho

https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140429083756017VwGm90Xx06B5

things change quick

Searing

edit: last point/link also had cost incorrect see above 6783 usd for 3th

RoadStress, you are the one who needs to answer my question. I'm not selling anything here.
Will you or will you not SP30 match KNC $/GH on the Neptune they ship and include a 100% refund guarantee ?

Don't rush into anything RoadStress, I'll check back later to see what you have to say

~L)L~

it is actually a wash i can do just as well buying bitcoin now and holding as i can/could have done either keeping my batch 1 Neptune or
the $4495 group buy batch 1 that was previously offered for august

just buy coin...from my calcs on www.thegeneisisblock.com at 40% diff rise a month (which I think is low by the way) and 15c kwh and A/C in July/Aug or whatever..

i figure I make 0.20 more btc with equip then coin

whoop de do!

so it goes...(the boat may have sailed..big farms unite....create skynet ack!)

that would suck 'bitcoin network is skynet!"

Searing

And RoadStress is trying to get $5K for September delivery ? What a tosser ...

What mining equipment do you own right now?

I am waiting to see what KNC and Bitmain do in the next month or so before I commit any more money to equipment.
The SP30 could well be still born ...

faetos I'm just bored while waiting for BTC to hit $1000. The shilltard is owning himself so nobody can fall for him.


This is actually better than Inaba!

er huh...the sp30 price was $4495.00 incl shipping that ships in august vs 10,131.80 knc neptune which you will likely get around (being optimistic) say July 1st if they really scream them out..more likely July 15th unit in hand...so we are talking 1 month diff likely?

not sure if I'd go with that Neptune plan (oh wait did not do so dumped my neptune for a Titan..yeah yean laugh I deserve it...still the better of
2 bad choices if it is neptune or titan imho) to be fair you do get a 3rd batch neptune probably end of sept/oct for waiting that long but 3th then don't lift much at that point...

anyway we will see

but with the price diff it is a 'wash' at worst or a win for SP30 under current situations (at this time crap changes) but imho

not a slam here...just saying (trying to be objective here)

Searing

Just for you foetus. RoadStress is the one who needs to put up or shut up. Match KNC or not RoadStress ? Guaranteed SP30 refund or not RoadStress ?

Samsonn25, no bitcoin ASIC miner company manufactures their own chips. They all have similar design and foundry costs.

Playing dumb huh ? Not everybody here is as dumb as you RoadStress.

Will you sell SP30 machines for Sept delivery with a 100% refund guarantee for the equivalent $/GH price of the Neptune that KNC ships ?

you guys are falling hard for this shill that has no orders with kfc. Dude's a tool, you guys are smarter than that. Seriously, put up or shut up, s1gshill

For ego maybe but its not cost effective:

It cost maunfacturers $500-600 per TH now and thats only 1.5w/gh performance, KNC cant even buy at price because they dont manufacture the chips themselves.  Prob cost them  $1000 TH to build their machines.

Someone please explain me what matching offer is s1gs3gv talking about! Please! I just don't get it.

They would kill all their competitors permanently and own the market for a long time … if I were KNC I'd ship 12 TH, even if it cost me a little money up front ...

Yup. Another piece of the puzzle .. but I think it will be July before we find out. Meanwhile I think Spond is desperately trying to dump SP30 machines before the next deja vu. KNC is being very quiet … which means to me that they have the Ace up their sleeve ...

"1.  How do you know what $/GH and J/GH KNC are going to deliver in the Neptune ? (hint: you do know that the Titan has gone from 100mh to 400mh since it was offered for sale … what will you do if KNC deliver a 12TH Neptune ? Cancel your SP30 orders ? Sorry - no refunds on SP30 orders … )

2.  How do you know what kind of manufacturing capabilities KNC has so that you can confidently say "shipping out obviously another 30-60 days after batch 1 is released" ?

3.  Do you have a prejudice against the Chinese ? FWIW Chinese companies like Foxconn probably make half the stuff you own, including your IPhone, and their QC is excellent.

4.  If RoadStress is so confident that the SP30 is such a better deal than the Neptune he won't have a problem agreeing to match Neptune $/GH and then we can see what KNC ships. If its a 3TH machine, he hasn't got anything to worry about. If he won't agree to match KNC, then he's just trying to dump SP30 machines at the best possible price before KNC ship their monster Neptune machine. Thats what shills do."


I am  well intentioned unbiased.

1.  I dont know final mining specs for knc jupiter or titan, but they dont have any working prototypes yet for wither machine.  Why would KNC deliver 12TH Nptune if they took all the money 21 million for the suckers that prepaid already and they only promised minimum 3TH?  they are not stupid.  As a matter of fact they can still sell 3TH Neptunes for 6k

2.  It is possible KNC can ship faster that scheduled.  But also possibility they can delay again, even the promised cloud hashing compensation is late, so you think about their credibility.

3.  Chinese makers are the fastest, thats why im sure they are studying the KNC chip design to see if they can improve on it.

4.  We will see, as its a possibility KNC can ship in July so thats earlier than the Sp30.

All depends on shipping any real product out.

Still if KNC only ships 3-4TH in earliest July timeframe the 1 month headstart is probably not enough in savings to a 6TH for 5k in August.  This includes the Free 3TH Neptune KNC promises after Batch 2 is finished shipping out.

Lets see what Bitmain can do this month.  lol     As its a good time to take some market share if they stop being greedy.