Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 532.

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Quote from: davebodger on April 08, 2014, 06:13:53 PM

Quote from: joeventura on April 08, 2014, 04:53:19 PM

Quote from: sbfree on April 08, 2014, 04:44:57 PM

Quote from: joeventura on April 08, 2014, 04:42:00 PM

Quote from: sbfree on April 08, 2014, 04:24:43 PM

Just Checked my order history with KNC, and it is now officially changed to 3TH Jupiter instead of Neptunes. It is happening.

Yes its really happening you can now buy a 3 TH Jupiter for what you would get 4TH from most anyone else.
Antminer, Cointerra etc and all you had to do was wait for KNC to fall on their faces and/or buy too many Jupiter modules to fit in their data center.
You are buying their crumbs.

Joe, it is what it is. I have done well with KNC, and all this for me is really added bonuses, especially since I didn't consider the overclocking that padrino mentioned.

You are getting 18 Jupiter Modules (166gh each) are they new Modules? If so how much more do you expect to overclock out of them?
2nd batch (November) were the same chips no? So isn't 166gh per chip the top end already?
I could be wrong but you may want to double check your math.

Extrapolating from my November Jupiter, which uses 820W at wall using Platinum PSU to provide 760GH/s (190GH/s per board overclocked to 1000MHz) - so 18 boards = 3420GH/s @ 3690W.
Personally I would go with 4 x 1000W PSUs, but 3 x 1250W should be possible if you like running close to the wind.

thanks for that, so they shall actually be 3.4TH Jupiters (AKA FrankenJup) @4000W

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Quote from: joeventura on April 08, 2014, 04:53:19 PM

Quote from: sbfree on April 08, 2014, 04:44:57 PM

Quote from: joeventura on April 08, 2014, 04:42:00 PM

Quote from: sbfree on April 08, 2014, 04:24:43 PM

Just Checked my order history with KNC, and it is now officially changed to 3TH Jupiter instead of Neptunes. It is happening.

Yes its really happening you can now buy a 3 TH Jupiter for what you would get 4TH from most anyone else.
Antminer, Cointerra etc and all you had to do was wait for KNC to fall on their faces and/or buy too many Jupiter modules to fit in their data center.
You are buying their crumbs.

Joe, it is what it is. I have done well with KNC, and all this for me is really added bonuses, especially since I didn't consider the overclocking that padrino mentioned.

You are getting 18 Jupiter Modules (166gh each) are they new Modules? If so how much more do you expect to overclock out of them?
2nd batch (November) were the same chips no? So isn't 166gh per chip the top end already?
I could be wrong but you may want to double check your math.

Extrapolating from my November Jupiter, which uses 820W at wall using Platinum PSU to provide 760GH/s (190GH/s per board overclocked to 1000MHz) - so 18 boards = 3420GH/s @ 3690W.
Personally I would go with 4 x 1000W PSUs, but 3 x 1250W should be possible if you like running close to the wind.

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Quote from: xstr8guy on April 08, 2014, 04:22:30 PM

What is the power usage on that monster? What kind of PSU(s) will it require. Can it be run safely on household circuits?

Is it just parts or is it somewhat preassembled?

Are these used Datorhall boards?

Many more questions remain unanswered.

Power usage, its Jupiter Nov version so probably similar 1.3W/GH or more overclocked.

As to the rest of the questions some of it is answered in the email

Quote from: knc

Each setup contains
•   18 of our own 28nm 8 DC/DC module ASIC boards with coolers,
•   3 controller cards,
•   all cables needed,
•   Power supplies not included.
The boards are in aluminum boxes, each box contains 3 chips side by side with front and rear cooling vents. Each controller card runs two boxes.

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Glow Stick Dance!

I converted to the FrankenJup. Sad

So what, I'll need 3 1200w PSUs to run this abortion then?

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https://www.kncminer.com/pages/faq

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Why are you selling the Miners and don’t mine yourself (will you use the miners for mining yourself)? ▾

We will not mine with more than 5% of the hash rate we sell

Wow, they still have that up.

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Quote from: sbfree on April 08, 2014, 05:18:09 PM

Quote from: FUKT on April 08, 2014, 05:10:52 PM

Quote from: sbfree on April 08, 2014, 04:24:43 PM

Just Checked my order history with KNC, and it is now officially changed to 3TH Jupiter instead of Neptunes. It is happening.

LOL you just paid for NRE costs on their 20nm product while giving you a product with NRE already paid for close to 10k. You just got ripped.

FUKT, I have stopped putting up cash for hardware for what seems like a long time ago and have done well, so whatever comes out of this from KNC is really an added bonus for me. I have plenty of hardware present and on the way and it is all paid for with an initial cash investment made last year under $20k, it has been an incredible ride.

I'm in the same boat, I only drop in now and then to make snappy comments every now and then.

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Quote from: FUKT on April 08, 2014, 05:10:52 PM

Quote from: sbfree on April 08, 2014, 04:24:43 PM

Just Checked my order history with KNC, and it is now officially changed to 3TH Jupiter instead of Neptunes. It is happening.

LOL you just paid for NRE costs on their 20nm product while giving you a product with NRE already paid for close to 10k. You just got ripped.

FUKT, I have stopped putting up cash for hardware for what seems like a long time ago and have done well, so whatever comes out of this from KNC is really an added bonus for me. I have plenty of hardware present and on the way and it is all paid for with an initial cash investment made last year under $20k, it has been an incredible ride.

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Quote from: RoadStress on April 08, 2014, 04:20:06 PM

A refund would be far more profitable only if you buy bitcoins ~~and the exchange rate goes up~~.

FTFY. A refund (used to purchase bitcoins if not given directly in bitcoins) will give you more bitcoins than the Neptune will ever mine.

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Quote from: sbfree on April 08, 2014, 04:24:43 PM

Just Checked my order history with KNC, and it is now officially changed to 3TH Jupiter instead of Neptunes. It is happening.

LOL you just paid for NRE costs on their 20nm product while giving you a product with NRE already paid for close to 10k. You just got ripped.

sbfree

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Avenger, before you go, re-edit the picture please. Make it Frankenjup, lose the 'iter', sounds better without extra syllable. thx Cheesy

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Latest KNC schematic for 18 board Jupiter:

I'm done

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Quote from: joeventura on April 08, 2014, 04:53:19 PM

Quote from: sbfree on April 08, 2014, 04:44:57 PM

Quote from: joeventura on April 08, 2014, 04:42:00 PM

Quote from: sbfree on April 08, 2014, 04:24:43 PM

Just Checked my order history with KNC, and it is now officially changed to 3TH Jupiter instead of Neptunes. It is happening.

Yes its really happening you can now buy a 3 TH Jupiter for what you would get 4TH from most anyone else.
Antminer, Cointerra etc and all you had to do was wait for KNC to fall on their faces and/or buy too many Jupiter modules to fit in their data center.

You are buying their crumbs.

Joe, it is what it is. I have done well with KNC, and all this for me is really added bonuses, especially since I didn't consider the overclocking that padrino mentioned.

You are getting 18 Jupiter Modules (166gh each) are they new Modules? If so how much more do you expect to overclock out of them?

2nd batch (November) were the same chips no? So isn't 166gh per chip the top end already?

I could be wrong but you may want to double check your math.

I meant the 3Th Jup's are bonuses, at least for me, even if they aren't overclockable. And it was padrino's math, I'm too lazy to do it myself.

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Quote from: sbfree on April 08, 2014, 04:44:57 PM

Quote from: joeventura on April 08, 2014, 04:42:00 PM

Quote from: sbfree on April 08, 2014, 04:24:43 PM

Just Checked my order history with KNC, and it is now officially changed to 3TH Jupiter instead of Neptunes. It is happening.

Yes its really happening you can now buy a 3 TH Jupiter for what you would get 4TH from most anyone else.
Antminer, Cointerra etc and all you had to do was wait for KNC to fall on their faces and/or buy too many Jupiter modules to fit in their data center.

You are buying their crumbs.

Joe, it is what it is. I have done well with KNC, and all this for me is really added bonuses, especially since I didn't consider the overclocking that padrino mentioned.

You are getting 18 Jupiter Modules (166gh each) are they new Modules? If so how much more do you expect to overclock out of them?

2nd batch (November) were the same chips no? So isn't 166gh per chip the top end already?

I could be wrong but you may want to double check your math.

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Quote from: joeventura on April 08, 2014, 04:42:00 PM

Quote from: sbfree on April 08, 2014, 04:24:43 PM

Just Checked my order history with KNC, and it is now officially changed to 3TH Jupiter instead of Neptunes. It is happening.

Yes its really happening you can now buy a 3 TH Jupiter for what you would get 4TH from most anyone else.
Antminer, Cointerra etc and all you had to do was wait for KNC to fall on their faces and/or buy too many Jupiter modules to fit in their data center.

You are buying their crumbs.

In fact they are upgrading the Jupiter chips to the newer Neptune chips Angry

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Quote from: joeventura on April 08, 2014, 04:42:00 PM

Quote from: sbfree on April 08, 2014, 04:24:43 PM

Just Checked my order history with KNC, and it is now officially changed to 3TH Jupiter instead of Neptunes. It is happening.

Yes its really happening you can now buy a 3 TH Jupiter for what you would get 4TH from most anyone else.
Antminer, Cointerra etc and all you had to do was wait for KNC to fall on their faces and/or buy too many Jupiter modules to fit in their data center.

You are buying their crumbs.

Joe, it is what it is. I have done well with KNC, and all this for me is really added bonuses, especially since I didn't consider the overclocking that padrino mentioned.

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Status:Jupiter 3TH

@sbfree: me too Tongue

Last time ever I pay upfront for a miner. Next time I book a plane and trade "hand-in-hand" with BTC or cash money.

E.g. When someone tells me to visit me at Q1/Q2 I expect that he is coming around March / April.
Not January, not June. KNC created this expectation.

When I was informed that the deadline was June 30, I didn't order, because I also looked in January at the rising difficulty.
With that information, and the by KNC created expectation, I ordered in full trust the Neptune.

Also, with that amount of payed upfront money, invested in KNC to create a new product, clients can demand transparancy.
But all I heard was news about a huge mining hashrate from the new-build datacenter and developing a Scryptminer, and cashing a lot of BTC into dollars so much that the BTC falls again.

E.g. when you buy a house, you expect the contractor to get to work on that house, with your money, because you payed him for that. When you hear that the contractor is investing your money into a nailshop for his wife, you became angry I guess.

Edit: You can see (as we speak) on their website the text "Shipment begins in Q2 of 2014"

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Quote from: sbfree on April 08, 2014, 04:24:43 PM

Just Checked my order history with KNC, and it is now officially changed to 3TH Jupiter instead of Neptunes. It is happening.

Yes its really happening you can now buy a 3 TH Jupiter for what you would get 4TH from most anyone else.
Antminer, Cointerra etc and all you had to do was wait for KNC to fall on their faces and/or buy too many Jupiter modules to fit in their data center.

You are buying their crumbs.

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