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I've never heard of a pool operator staying on an old wallet version - they would loose miners very quickly.  It's in their best interest to migrate.

if we are talking about merged mining - it's litecoin or other high hashrate coin pool operators that should update their pool software and install merged mining coin daemon. Will they do it?

That is one of the challenges of putting in merge-mining. I've been approaching pool operators to see what kind of commitments we can get to keep the network balanced.
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I've never heard of a pool operator staying on an old wallet version - they would loose miners very quickly.  It's in their best interest to migrate.

if we are talking about merged mining - it's litecoin or other high hashrate coin pool operators that should update their pool software and install merged mining coin daemon. Will they do it?
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Anyone got sxc coins they want to sell? And is there any idea how long the coins going to be down also is the there going to be a altered or remodelled coin, or is the hope to just end the hack, any decisions made yet?
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But sending from wallet to wallet during an attack is risky,

That's the whole point any person using an Android Wallet could receive funds during these hacks and then loose them a little while later.

The main problem - will the main pools implement this update and what will they gain from it? I don't like tokens and all this Etherium stuff - but maybe the coinswap is better from this side? CasinoCoin - another one coin I was mining along with SXC - swapped to some other codebase - not Etherium tokens and not mineable too. Ripple-based if I am not wrong. The SexCoin idea is very close to CSC - only the markets differ - maybe this way is better?

As far as I can understand your vision is to left behind the "direct mining" and all the problems it brings and concentrate on integration of the coin? - maybe yes, maybe it's time to do so. The only thing I agree with - SCRYPT algo is a "ded end" at the moment. And I'll not leave the project.

Swapping to a Token is that you are relying entirely on another coin to handle your transactions.

The pools are the ones most affected in that they could be just about to do their daily / weekly?? payout for mining when an attack occurs - the pool pays out and then an attack to the network occurs and their funds paid have been reversed.  An argument could occur between the pool operator and a miner about funds received and then lost.

I've never heard of a pool operator staying on an old wallet version - they would loose miners very quickly.  It's in their best interest to migrate.
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Actually, I appreciate your perspective. This is one of the main reasons we have been reluctant to make this decision. But is it worth it to mine a coin knowing that all your mining proceeds could be reversed by an inexpensive attack? Is it possible to get someone like Brazzers to accept a coin that has an insecure network? Wouldn't switching the algo leave us vulnerable to the same scenario playing out in the future? In order to get adaptation, requirement one is that the network is secure. So there is a catch-22 here. We cannot get adaptation without a secure network... and we cannot get a secure network without adaptation. One of these walls must be broken through.

I understand this problem - the funny thing was exactly the same words by the SIA team leader - but regarding GPU mining Smiley - He told everyone - GPU mining is BAD, a lot of hashpower can attack our network and GPU-miners are not interested in supporting the coin, leave it for more profit and let the network unsecured for attackers. So he decided to make ASICs - and all you know what happened next Smiley The only working model (if you are not Bitcoin/Litecoin/DASH) - is to use really new algo never used before or multialgo (attacker must  control 4 or 5 algos - with not enough hashpower for some of the m freely available) or to change algo sometimes as Monero do. This is if you would like to be a "mineable" coin.

The other way - yes, and maybe in 2018 it's time to do so - after all this ASIC delirium - say GOODBYE to direct mining and hung on Litecoin or Bitcoin net with MM. The main problem - will the main pools implement this update and what will they gain from it? I don't like tokens and all this Etherium stuff - but maybe the coinswap is better from this side? CasinoCoin - another one coin I was mining along with SXC - swapped to some other codebase - not Etherium tokens and not mineable too. Ripple-based if I am not wrong. The SexCoin idea is very close to CSC - only the markets differ - maybe this way is better?

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As far as the potential of relegating Sexcoin to another faceless shitcoin, I strongly disagree with that. The age verification is a big differentiator, no other coin has that, and strong verification is on the horizon. In addition, we are working on ways to continue the path of making Sexcoin the most attractive coin for the Adult Industry. The European Projects are heating up, but have been ready to pull back because of the low hash-rates. This last attack has given everyone working on adaptation serious pause, and at a time where confidence needs to be highest.

I'm going to assume, since you remember the 0% pool fee, that you really are OG on this... what was your BCT account then? We are not saying 'fuck you' to the 'mine and hodl'ers. We are not saying the coin has no value. We are saying that the coin has no value if the network remains insecure. We are saying "we are protecting your investment". If you haven't figured it out, I'm also a 'mine and hodl'er, I have a fair stake in this project myself. Do you think I would support a decision that would harm the coin?

As far as I can understand your vision is to left behind the "direct mining" and all the problems it brings and concentrate on integration of the coin? - maybe yes, maybe it's time to do so. The only thing I agree with - SCRYPT algo is a "ded end" at the moment. And I'll not leave the project.
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But sending from wallet to wallet during an attack is risky,
LJ is there anyway to send coins safely, you can think of.

Also is there any benefit these hackers would get from attacking sxc other than holding it in a sense ransom, i know it's hard to predict but is there any timeframe you think it might take until up again.

Also are coins stuck on the markets that.

I am still willing to swap sxc for gems if anyone is interested take a look,

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.44558878
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Is there any way to safely trade sxc?

The exchange trading is paused at the moment. Private sale? One thing's for sure, this project has a killer brand name!
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Is there any way to safely trade sxc?
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I was mining it for god knows how long - on GRIDSIDs and so on. And never sold - holy HODL Smiley - the pool with 0% fee was running from that time too.

I know the history of the DOGE - it's not the place to discuss - but they had all the things to become a main Donation CryptoConcurrency - but everything failed after merged mining...

The main problem of SexCoin - it the luck of places it can be used. So the low hashrate is the backside of the coin that no one needs - the GameCredits - scrypt coin too - is forcing themselves to the game industry, what SexCoin do? - If some studios like Brazzers or Adult "youtubes" start to accept SexCoins - the price will skyrocket and the miners will return. Where, the hell, is this?

And now you say - you will not support? I'm a miner, a hodler, a pool operator - and what can I do more? - And now all the team says - sorry, our coin has no value, so to simply "live everything as it goes" - we will use MM?

Why not to switch algo? Why not multi-algo as Digibyte, for example? - Choose Blake2b - and the ARMY of Antmainer A3 users will spread the word about SexCoin - new blood, new PR - they have NOTHING to mine!

But - no, all you can say - another faceless MM scrypt shitcoin.... with the price 30-40 sat like DOGE. OK.

ArchitektoR,

Actually, I appreciate your perspective. This is one of the main reasons we have been reluctant to make this decision. But is it worth it to mine a coin knowing that all your mining proceeds could be reversed by an inexpensive attack? Is it possible to get someone like Brazzers to accept a coin that has an insecure network? Wouldn't switching the algo leave us vulnerable to the same scenario playing out in the future? In order to get adaptation, requirement one is that the network is secure. So there is a catch-22 here. We cannot get adaptation without a secure network... and we cannot get a secure network without adaptation. One of these walls must be broken through.

As far as the potential of relegating Sexcoin to another faceless shitcoin, I strongly disagree with that. The age verification is a big differentiator, no other coin has that, and strong verification is on the horizon. In addition, we are working on ways to continue the path of making Sexcoin the most attractive coin for the Adult Industry. The European Projects are heating up, but have been ready to pull back because of the low hash-rates. This last attack has given everyone working on adaptation serious pause, and at a time where confidence needs to be highest.

I'm going to assume, since you remember the 0% pool fee, that you really are OG on this... what was your BCT account then? We are not saying 'fuck you' to the 'mine and hodl'ers. We are not saying the coin has no value. We are saying that the coin has no value if the network remains insecure. We are saying "we are protecting your investment". If you haven't figured it out, I'm also a 'mine and hodl'er, I have a fair stake in this project myself. Do you think I would support a decision that would harm the coin?



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In ninety-one pages of posts, this is your first post to say you aren't going to support SexCoin.?

We're sorry to see you go - just remember that DOGE was started as a joke / meme coin.

I was mining it for god knows how long - on GRIDSIDs and so on. And never sold - holy HODL Smiley - the pool with 0% fee was running from that time too.

I know the history of the DOGE - it's not the place to discuss - but they had all the things to become a main Donation CryptoConcurrency - but everything failed after merged mining...

The main problem of SexCoin - it the luck of places it can be used. So the low hashrate is the backside of the coin that no one needs - the GameCredits - scrypt coin too - is forcing themselves to the game industry, what SexCoin do? - If some studios like Brazzers or Adult "youtubes" start to accept SexCoins - the price will skyrocket and the miners will return. Where, the hell, is this?

And now you say - you will not support? I'm a miner, a hodler, a pool operator - and what can I do more? - And now all the team says - sorry, our coin has no value, so to simply "live everything as it goes" - we will use MM?

Why not to switch algo? Why not multi-algo as Digibyte, for example? - Choose Blake2b - and the ARMY of Antmainer A3 users will spread the word about SexCoin - new blood, new PR - they have NOTHING to mine!

But - no, all you can say - another faceless MM scrypt shitcoin.... with the price 30-40 sat like DOGE. OK.
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Merge-mining is a process where we can leverage the hashpower that is being dedicated to litecoin. A miner can mine both litecoin and sexcoin using the same mining gear at the same time. This is done in a way that the full amount of hashpower is used on both networks at the same time. So merge-mining sexcoin is a bonus, and not merge-mining sexcoin would be leaving money on the table. This creates a very strong incentive to mine sexcoin and help secure the network. It does this while still preserving the ability to mine sexcoin on its own.

dogecoin did so and now it's almost a DEAD project - yes, the net is live - but no interest at all - only for pump-n-dump on exchanges... the same for ALL other merged-mining coins - they never get any "new blood" after this.

For me - merged mining = dead coin/project. It's your decision - OK, but I'm not supporting it.

In ninety-one pages of posts, this is your first post to say you aren't going to support SexCoin.?

We're sorry to see you go - just remember that DOGE was started as a joke / meme coin.
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Merge-mining is a process where we can leverage the hashpower that is being dedicated to litecoin. A miner can mine both litecoin and sexcoin using the same mining gear at the same time. This is done in a way that the full amount of hashpower is used on both networks at the same time. So merge-mining sexcoin is a bonus, and not merge-mining sexcoin would be leaving money on the table. This creates a very strong incentive to mine sexcoin and help secure the network. It does this while still preserving the ability to mine sexcoin on its own.

dogecoin did so and now it's almost a DEAD project - yes, the net is live - but no interest at all - only for pump-n-dump on exchanges... the same for ALL other merged-mining coins - they never get any "new blood" after this.

For me - merged mining = dead coin/project. It's your decision - OK, but I'm not supporting it.
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::Very Important::


If you are not aware by now, Sexcoin has been the recipient of block-withholding attacks, both last year and two weeks ago. The dev team has been in discussion about the state of Sexcoin and crypto in general. We are aware that exchanges are particularly vulnerable to these attacks because of the nature of how they work. Although this should be obvious, we would like to go ahead and state it plainly. Sexcoin, (any scrypt based coin, with a few exceptions.. i.e. litecoin ), is currently insecure under its present metrics... and no coin that is insecure can really be taken seriously by people wanting to either invest or use it. Crypto's single largest selling point is the security of the block-chain.

Current holdings are not at risk. What is at risk are coins that are sent or recieved during an attack.

Since July, Sexcoin has had an average of 25 - 30 GH/s on its network. It has peaked at around 45 GH/s and been as low as 15 GH/s. Over that same timespan, Litecoin has had an average of about 300 TH/s on its network, peaking at 385 TH/s and going as low as 210 TH/s.

This brings to light what Sexcoin is really up against by using the scrypt algorithm at this time. Here are some points to keep in mind:

  • At any given time there is AT LEAST 385 TH/s available globally to mine scrypt.
  • Sexcoin, during 'normal' operation ( not under attack ) has attracted as high as 45 GH/s, this is 0.00015% of the total global hashrate available.
  • In order to overwhelm the network, a bad actor only has to use 0.00030% of the total global hashrate. Approximately 80 GH/s.
  • On MRR, there is 22.15 TH/s of scrypt power available for rent.
  • As I write this, 3 hours of hashpower at 80 GH/s can be bought for 0.0080 BTC or $52

IF we were to attract 3 times the peak amount of honest hashpower, that would be 45 x 3 or 135 GH/s, the bad actor would need to purchase 135 X 2 ( the argument could be made that it could be pulled off with only 135+1 ), which can be purchased for 0.0180 BTC or $117... Doubling that to create a sustained attack for 6 hours would cost $234. That is not a lot of money, and well within reach of most people.

Again, right now, renting 45 GH/s for 24 hours would cost 0.0297 BTC ( $193 ), A quick rent for 12 Hours comes in at 0.01 BTC ( $65 ) The differences are because of how the rigs are selected and what's available for how long.. but we are looking at around $150 - $200 per day to provide a baseline of 45 GH/s to keep the network secured. Even with this effort, we would have been overwhelmed by an attack at the $230 level for 6 hours.

Sexcoin, as a project, is at a crossroads. We feel a responsibility both to the supporters of Sexcoin and the crypto community at large. Sexcoin was built on being available for miners and has enjoyed the fact that it was a coin that could still be mined in your basement. That time is over. We have had a number of discussions about different ways to keep the block-chain secure. POS, checkpoint servers, switching algorithms and coin swaps to token based have all been on the table since last year. Our real hope was that Sexcoin would realize its place in the eco-system and attract enough miners so that we could continue its course. These last attacks have convinced us that it has not.

Again, considering the global availability of hashrate, we cannot run sexcoin as pure scrypt under its present metrics any longer.

Therefore, in consideration of the current holders, miners and supporters of sexcoin, we are going to institute merge-mining. The intent here is to decisively secure the block-chain going forward, in a way that is both fair to current holders and people that are newly attracted to Sexcoin.

I have been in contact with both Livecoin and Cryptopia. They have both expressed a willingness to continue listing Sexcoin, under certain conditions. We believe merge-mining will satisfy those conditions, and we fully support the efforts they have made to protect both themselves and their clients. The perpetrators of these attacks are thieves, and their attacks are by design. Last year there was still some question as to whether or not the forks were malicious, this time there is no doubt.

Merge-mining is a process where we can leverage the hashpower that is being dedicated to litecoin. A miner can mine both litecoin and sexcoin using the same mining gear at the same time. This is done in a way that the full amount of hashpower is used on both networks at the same time. So merge-mining sexcoin is a bonus, and not merge-mining sexcoin would be leaving money on the table. This creates a very strong incentive to mine sexcoin and help secure the network. It does this while still preserving the ability to mine sexcoin on its own.

We will be publishing a time-line with more information soon™.

EDIT: Here is the followup and timeline




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Are there any news regarding SXC when will there be livecoin up again?  Smiley

Short answer: Yes.

I've almost got the post finished. It'll be in the next few hours.
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Are there any news regarding SXC when will there be livecoin up again?  Smiley
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Hey guys We have re opend the sexcoin pool happy mining 


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You guys have been around since 2013? What was the token based on back then?

it used to have its own chain not sure what it is now but its been around forever

It's a coin and always will be a coin. If you see anyone claiming to have a "SexCoin" token it is a fraud. Our wallet still have its underlying basis off of the LiteCoin Wallet (and can poke your eye out too!)  Wink
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