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i want to slowly invest more into this company, and therefore would like to see a rising stock price, and a solid-growing venture. I am offcourse willing to pay this growth with smaller dividends. I suggest we put back some 10% of the net gain in bitcoin for reserves.

Also.. since butteflylabs delivered to some people, we should really discuss about ordering some of those. maybe with an new IPO? i don't think this will lower the shareprice at all, rather increas it. having some asskicking, electricity-cost-lowering FPGAs wont turn investors away, i think!

what do you think about those 2 matters?!

regarding the reserves i heard some supporting words from goat..

greets

13/1500

Seconded. p2pool may be bad for dividends, but possibly good for share price. Lots of idealists around. Idunno -- how bout a two-week trial on p2pool about a month (so additional dividends aren't as much an additional variable) after the new hardware's installed? If share price doesn't increase, I'd vote for GPUMax. Ultimately, I much prefer a higher share price over higher dividend payout as I want to be able to put money in and take it out on demand.

fwiw.

I personally think that we should move to p2pool, because it's good for bitcoin.
And i also do think that shareholders should be able to control the coins that come in, via block explorer.
Don't see it as a lack of confidence, Transparency is just good for business.

Obviously this should be put to vote, that's just my personal opinion

For the record, you said "61.24 coins mined".  Apparently that was not very careful wording, since its just a hypothetical number.

Dividends are paid on a companies actual profits, based on actual costs and revenues, not based on  what one might expect if a certain business plan were to be followed - but isnt.  Share holders own a substantial part of your company, they are entitled to know exactly whats going on. Just making a blanket statement "12GH in theory ought to bring in x BTC so lets assume we did" is something quite different.

It doesnt matter if your losses due to downtime were offset by profits made hopping or from gpumax, it could be the other way as well, shareholders ought to know. Its not like Intel pays dividends based on theoretical costs and revenue with management pocketing (or paying out of pocket) the difference between theory and reality. The latter is what you do when running a proxy or pool as service to customers. Its not how you treat shareholder.

My 2 cents.

So you are buying hashrate from everyone else at 105-115% and making a profit on top of that by hopping and/or gpumax, but your own farm is only yielding ~98% PPS? Really?

How do your shareholders know you are not hopping with your farm, and frankly, why wouldnt you?

Since you have an obligation to maximize shareholder value, at the very least one would expect you to direct your hashes towards your GPUmax account where you will get significantly more than what you are stating.

i recently thought about tygrr tech withholding some small percentage (like 10%) or something in bitcoins to make some reserves over the time..

i would vote for it.

I didn't receive my dividend payout yesterday.  Usually I see it when I see the announcement.  Have you made it, and who do I need to talk to if you have?

+1

You've been consistent enough, take your time 

will you sell some stocks to me at btc 3?!

Derp. Reason "last price" right now is 1.25BTC is because I mis-typed and sold the wrong stock @ .38BTC :x

Not sure if you decided to add the new hardware, but if you do I can volunteer to buy this in HK and bring it in my suitcase to HK. I am flying to Thailand within a week or two.

*rubs "morning sand" out of eyes* 434 to 3.

38 YAY
3 NAY

in the vote till now..
since there are NAYs i would like to discuss them.. why NAY?

get them running! now!

*10/1500 just voted for it*

1. i think goat is doing a good&authentic job
2. the dividends are quite nice
3. lowest ask now are 4 BTC/share .. but i won't sell my 10 shares - i don't think i can get shares of such a good mining venture somewhere else

Most people familiar with stocks in general think no in value, but it seems to me like big name stocks with price tags in the hundreds don't typically move as much as big name stocks with price tags below 100 (in terms of % change, with Apple clearly breaking that rule after their last earnings report).  I'm not advocating for a split or arguing that it would add value, it was just something that occurred to me.  Like maybe people look at the price of a share more than the value of the share, so .33 BTC 10 times is easier to stomach than 3 BTC 1 time.  If it really worked that way (and it shouldn't), it would mean the guy that sold 10 shares post-split gained 10% just beacuse of the split.  Regardless, the split could make future public offerings to increase capital less likely to succeed because people could feel like there are too many shares and people are clearly afraid of dilution even when the threat doesn't exist (based on other threads).  All of that said, if a split is proposed and passed, I would look into whether or not the split functionality affects open bids, because otherwise some people with bids that are lowball right now will likely get screwed over by some opportunists with newly-split shares, and those people would probbly blame TyGrr before GLBSE or themselves.

Would a 10-to-1 split add liquidity/value for shareholders?  I ask because I notice that FPGA.contract seems to have more liquidity at ~ 1/10th of TyGrr and pay a similar dividend per 10 shares (or per BTC if you count TyGrr as 3 BTC and FPGA.contract as .3).  I'm not sure exactly what % the dividend would be in either case and obviously it would vary with mining, but I wonder if there wouldn't be more reasonable bids if the TyGrr shares sold for sub 1BTC like most other securities on GLBSE.

If that's true I am sure Goat would be more than happy to donate the $1,000 to Bitcoin Magazine. 

Looking forward to it. Dont forget to tape the whole thing and ask the engineers ID. Goat is offering a $1000 reward:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1ghs-20w-500-butterflylabs-is-it-a-scam-48863

And a 10% discount on anyone purchasing from BFL:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1ghs-20w-500-butterflylabs-is-it-a-scam-48863