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Quote from: pakhitheboss on June 23, 2022, 01:47:16 AM

They are planning to increase IPL duration and by June the monsoon does reach Maharashtra so it will in their best interest.

How can they increase the duration of IPL which is already around 50 odd days? Now they want this IPL to be extended for 2.5 months? Please give them a suggestion that they could extend this duration to 12 months and we don't need any other tournament to be played. Angry

Pakistan has already raised its voice against it as PCB to challenge IPL's proposed extended window at next ICC meet. You cannot block international cricket for one full quarter of the year because you need to generate more revenue through IPL.

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I guess these technicalities will come mainly from Broadcaster but it's correct that BCCI won't able to move anything on this for next 4-5 years.
Punters are going to love this "Mystery free hit"

I am not a big fan of T10. It horrifies me. But if the youngsters want it, then T10 may become the face of cricket in less than a decade.

Although the T10 cricket format is a very short form of cricket , I did not find much attraction here. I think T20 format is better for short form of cricket and this format doesn't attract young people at the moment. Over all T20 is the best.

I think the T10 needs to expand if we want to make new countries interested in cricket. Otherwise, western or European countries will not be interested in cricket. Although there are many football fans in Western or European countries, their spectators are not interested in cricketers. I think the T10 format will make cricket more enjoyable.

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Quote from: Theones on June 24, 2022, 04:20:17 PM

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The BCCI has been successful in recent times because they had a balance of money and improvement.
I cannot say that it was perfectly balanced but some type of balance did exist and that's why they got the success.

If a board is corrupt totally, I don't think they could have had the success that BCCI had in recent times.
But they still have a long way to go to be absolutely professional.

The element of corruption is everywhere and we cannot keep it away from sports and life. Somehow that is the irony of life.
I am unsure if there is any place in the world where there is zero corruption - what an ideal world it would be to live for an honest person.

Here I agree with you about element of corruption is everywhere, but this is having too many shapes because in third world it's killing drastically too much with not good infrastructure and having personal likes and dislikes are also doing the worst things in many countries and in European countries it has different shape like we have few cases about media rights against top ranked UEFA peoples.

I watch in subcontinent too much involvement of politics in all fields which bring some good number of corrupt peoples, and then we have drastically downtrend which mostly kills naturally talented persons with education sector is also needed some revolutionary changes in few counties even country like India doing some positive things but still it's not good enough with still nepotism is having very strong roots in this system.

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I guess these technicalities will come mainly from Broadcaster but it's correct that BCCI won't able to move anything on this for next 4-5 years.

Punters are going to love this "Mystery free hit"

I am not a big fan of T10. It horrifies me. But if the youngsters want it, then T10 may become the face of cricket in less than a decade.

Although the T10 cricket format is a very short form of cricket , I did not find much attraction here. I think T20 format is better for short form of cricket and this format doesn't attract young people at the moment. Over all T20 is the best.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on June 24, 2022, 01:07:15 AM

They are now trying to compete with EPL revenue as per Sourav Ganguly. He also has hinted that they will be evaluating the infrastructure which means that they might be working or are planning to improve the stadium condition. I hope they are looking into retractable roofs also.

You are way too naive if you think Ganguly isn't corrupt. Majority of the people in this world are corrupt and that is a fact basically. They will look into retractable roofs only if they can pocket huge profits from them.

Quote from: teosanru on June 24, 2022, 04:28:14 PM

I think almost everyone who is in governance will always be involved in minting their own profits no matter what. It's really hard to find a very honest person who doesn't do such thing.

Exactly. I have no idea why so many people think that Ganguly isn't corrupt just because he was a successful Indian captain and player in the past.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 24, 2022, 01:18:51 AM

I guess these technicalities will come mainly from Broadcaster but it's correct that BCCI won't able to move anything on this for next 4-5 years.

Punters are going to love this "Mystery free hit"

Already the reputation of cricket is under threat from a large number of match fixing scandal. Innovations such as this one would make the situation even worse. Within the IPL, two of the franchises were suspended for their role in match fixing a few years ago. The owners were directly fixing matches and yet these franchises were allowed back in to the league after a couple of years. On top of that, I am not a big fan of T10. It horrifies me. But if the youngsters want it, then T10 may become the face of cricket in less than a decade.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on June 24, 2022, 01:07:15 AM

In past BCCI was full of corrupt, political members who were busy filling their pockets. Now the situation has changed a lot and with Sourav Ganguly as the president you can expect development.

They are now trying to compete with EPL revenue as per Sourav Ganguly. He also has hinted that they will be evaluating the infrastructure which means that they might be working or are planning to improve the stadium condition. I hope they are looking into retractable roofs also.

You are right in many ways but keep one thing in mind Sourav Ganguly is here only for one tenure after this he has no control what's going on and how is happening and things which he wants to do need very long time which is essential for this all. After him may be we have another corrupt or political person which done changes for his own nothing is sure they need to be professional like we have in UEFA soccer this can bring some revolutionary changes and this can bring IPL one of role model for cricketing world.

If BCCI able to have retractable roof's then surely it's going to big success for them and this can bring more revenue and more profit for broadcaster's as well.

Do you guys really think Sourav ganguly is doing everything very honestly? I feel that incharge of everything is Jay Shah and not sourav Ganguly is more like a puppet to Jay Shah. Talking about filling pockets, I think almost everyone who is in governance will always be involved in minting their own profits no matter what. It's really hard to find a very honest person who doesn't do such thing. The only problem I feel about IPL is that it develops the local talent but BCCI being such a big entity is responsible for global development of cricket as well.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on June 24, 2022, 02:43:13 PM

The BCCI has been successful in recent times because they had a balance of money and improvement.
I cannot say that it was perfectly balanced but some type of balance did exist and that's why they got the success.

If a board is corrupt totally, I don't think they could have had the success that BCCI had in recent times.
But they still have a long way to go to be absolutely professional.

The element of corruption is everywhere and we cannot keep it away from sports and life. Somehow that is the irony of life.
I am unsure if there is any place in the world where there is zero corruption - what an ideal world it would be to live for an honest person.

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Quote from: jaberwock on June 24, 2022, 12:28:41 PM

Quote from: pakhitheboss on June 24, 2022, 01:07:15 AM

In past BCCI was full of corrupt, political members who were busy filling their pockets. Now the situation has changed a lot and with Sourav Ganguly as the president you can expect development.

They are now trying to compete with EPL revenue as per Sourav Ganguly. He also has hinted that they will be evaluating the infrastructure which means that they might be working or are planning to improve the stadium condition. I hope they are looking into retractable roofs also.

You are right in many ways but keep one thing in mind Sourav Ganguly is here only for one tenure after this he has no control what's going on and how is happening and things which he wants to do need very long time which is essential for this all. After him may be we have another corrupt or political person which done changes for his own nothing is sure they need to be professional like we have in UEFA soccer this can bring some revolutionary changes and this can bring IPL one of role model for cricketing world.

If BCCI able to have retractable roof's then surely it's going to big success for them and this can bring more revenue and more profit for broadcaster's as well.

The BCCI has been successful in recent times because they had a balance of money and improvement.
I cannot say that it was perfectly balanced but some type of balance did exist and that's why they got the success.

If a board is corrupt totally, I don't think they could have had the success that BCCI had in recent times.
But they still have a long way to go to be absolutely professional.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on June 24, 2022, 01:07:15 AM

In past BCCI was full of corrupt, political members who were busy filling their pockets. Now the situation has changed a lot and with Sourav Ganguly as the president you can expect development.

They are now trying to compete with EPL revenue as per Sourav Ganguly. He also has hinted that they will be evaluating the infrastructure which means that they might be working or are planning to improve the stadium condition. I hope they are looking into retractable roofs also.

You are right in many ways but keep one thing in mind Sourav Ganguly is here only for one tenure after this he has no control what's going on and how is happening and things which he wants to do need very long time which is essential for this all. After him may be we have another corrupt or political person which done changes for his own nothing is sure they need to be professional like we have in UEFA soccer this can bring some revolutionary changes and this can bring IPL one of role model for cricketing world.

If BCCI able to have retractable roof's then surely it's going to big success for them and this can bring more revenue and more profit for broadcaster's as well.

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^^ I agree we're not ready but if for some weird reason it get hits in the subcontinent specially India then BCCI is going to exploit it without any doubt.

It happened with the T-20 so i don't think BCCI is going to ignore another milking cow, if it's realistic business model.

As per the terms and conditions of the IPL, the BCCI can't come up with another league that can become the competitor. Unless the BCCI allows the existing franchises to take part in the new T10 league (without any franchise fee), I don't believe that the other side will agree to the proposal. But in this case, the BCCI doesn't gain much. Anyway, I am not comfortable with some of the rules, such as the "mystery free hit". It can be easily manipulated based on voting and I am afraid that it is going to be another disaster like the much hyped "super sub".

I guess these technicalities will come mainly from Broadcaster but it's correct that BCCI won't able to move anything on this for next 4-5 years.

Punters are going to love this "Mystery free hit"

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Quote from: Haunebu on June 23, 2022, 11:31:10 PM

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The current situation of COVID19 is not that bad yet not that good. I understand there will be many hurdles but if BCCI wants to increase its revenue kitty then they need to consider such options. They are planning to increase IPL duration and by June the monsoon does reach Maharashtra so it will in their best interest.

They don't really need to increase their revenue through retractable roofs because they are swimming in money these days thanks to the recent IPL rights record amounts which is their primary focus these days.

Why do you think they haven't decided to add retractable roofs even though IPL has been running for more than a decade? Think about it.

In past BCCI was full of corrupt, political members who were busy filling their pockets. Now the situation has changed a lot and with Sourav Ganguly as the president you can expect development.

They are now trying to compete with EPL revenue as per Sourav Ganguly. He also has hinted that they will be evaluating the infrastructure which means that they might be working or are planning to improve the stadium condition. I hope they are looking into retractable roofs also.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 23, 2022, 12:51:41 PM

^^ I agree we're not ready but if for some weird reason it get hits in the subcontinent specially India then BCCI is going to exploit it without any doubt.

It happened with the T-20 so i don't think BCCI is going to ignore another milking cow, if it's realistic business model.

I really don't have any problem with a certain cricket board exploiting something that is legal, but the problem that I have is if this gets a good amount of popularity I think cricket is going to lose the actual skill that is needed to play. Everyone is just going to go and try to smash the ball out of the field and I think bowlers are going to lose their relevance.

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As per the terms and conditions of the IPL, the BCCI can't come up with another league that can become the competitor. Unless the BCCI allows the existing franchises to take part in the new T10 league (without any franchise fee), I don't believe that the other side will agree to the proposal. But in this case, the BCCI doesn't gain much. Anyway, I am not comfortable with some of the rules, such as the "mystery free hit". It can be easily manipulated based on voting and I am afraid that it is going to be another disaster like the much hyped "super sub".

Actually, cricket was not ready for this. And this is going to be confusing as well as some of the rules can also be quite manipulative. I really don't think that this should be a big hit, I hope that it does not get very popular for the sake of cricket.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on June 23, 2022, 01:47:16 AM

The current situation of COVID19 is not that bad yet not that good. I understand there will be many hurdles but if BCCI wants to increase its revenue kitty then they need to consider such options. They are planning to increase IPL duration and by June the monsoon does reach Maharashtra so it will in their best interest.

They don't really need to increase their revenue through retractable roofs because they are swimming in money these days thanks to the recent IPL rights record amounts which is their primary focus these days.

Why do you think they haven't decided to add retractable roofs even though IPL has been running for more than a decade? Think about it.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 23, 2022, 12:51:41 PM

^^ I agree we're not ready but if for some weird reason it get hits in the subcontinent specially India then BCCI is going to exploit it without any doubt.

It happened with the T-20 so i don't think BCCI is going to ignore another milking cow, if it's realistic business model.

As per the terms and conditions of the IPL, the BCCI can't come up with another league that can become the competitor. Unless the BCCI allows the existing franchises to take part in the new T10 league (without any franchise fee), I don't believe that the other side will agree to the proposal. But in this case, the BCCI doesn't gain much. Anyway, I am not comfortable with some of the rules, such as the "mystery free hit". It can be easily manipulated based on voting and I am afraid that it is going to be another disaster like the much hyped "super sub".

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^^ I agree we're not ready but if for some weird reason it get hits in the subcontinent specially India then BCCI is going to exploit it without any doubt.

It happened with the T-20 so i don't think BCCI is going to ignore another milking cow, if it's realistic business model.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 23, 2022, 08:05:24 AM

CPL and Windies cricket board are coming up new form of T-10 cricket. Some interesting rules out there like 6 wickets (all out), Mystery free hit (this one sounds fun) and most important one penalty for slow over rate.

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For this, the league has come up with brand new rules under which the matches will be played. Here are some.
-Each batting team has six wickets – at the fall of the sixth they are all out
-Each batting team has two PowerPlay overs. They can unlock a third PowerPlay by hitting two sixes in the first 12 balls. This extra PowerPlay over can be taken at any time between overs 3-9.
-There will be 30 balls bowled from one end before the action switches to the other end for the final 30 balls.
-The 30 balls will be delivered as 5 separate overs, with no bowler being able to bowl more than 2 overs for the innings.
-Teams have 45 minutes to bowl their overs. If they are too slow a member of their team is removed from the field for the final six balls.
-Fans will vote for the timing of a “Mystery Free Hit” where a batter can’t be dismissed by the bowler.
-The first edition of THE 6IXTY will take place from 24 to 28 August in St Kitts & Nevis at one of world cricket’s fastest scoring grounds – Warner Park. Future expansion plans of the 6IXTY include the potential of multiple events at different locations around the Caribbean and beyond.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/news/say-hello-to-6ixty-cpl-west-indies-crickets-brand-new-t10-baby/articleshow/92391512.cms

Honestly, I did not want this to happen so early and I think first of all it is going to be confusing to a lot of people. Secondly, I don't think the cricket world is ready for the t10 format right now.
I think it would have been better if this was introduced to the cricketing world a lot later. Now with the introduction of the t10 format cricket is going to lose its skill.
Now I think it is going to be baseball instead of playing genuine cricket shots.

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CPL and Windies cricket board are coming up new form of T-10 cricket. Some interesting rules out there like 6 wickets (all out), Mystery free hit (this one sounds fun) and most important one penalty for slow over rate.

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For this, the league has come up with brand new rules under which the matches will be played. Here are some.

-Each batting team has six wickets – at the fall of the sixth they are all out

-Each batting team has two PowerPlay overs. They can unlock a third PowerPlay by hitting two sixes in the first 12 balls. This extra PowerPlay over can be taken at any time between overs 3-9.

-There will be 30 balls bowled from one end before the action switches to the other end for the final 30 balls.

-The 30 balls will be delivered as 5 separate overs, with no bowler being able to bowl more than 2 overs for the innings.

-Teams have 45 minutes to bowl their overs. If they are too slow a member of their team is removed from the field for the final six balls.

-Fans will vote for the timing of a “Mystery Free Hit” where a batter can’t be dismissed by the bowler.

-The first edition of THE 6IXTY will take place from 24 to 28 August in St Kitts & Nevis at one of world cricket’s fastest scoring grounds – Warner Park. Future expansion plans of the 6IXTY include the potential of multiple events at different locations around the Caribbean and beyond.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/news/say-hello-to-6ixty-cpl-west-indies-crickets-brand-new-t10-baby/articleshow/92391512.cms

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Quote from: Haunebu on June 22, 2022, 11:46:00 PM

It is close to impossible currently to convince the government due to post-COVID economic issues. Also, they stand to lose hefty profits because of retractable roofs which is another reason why they won't agree.

Also, adding a retractable roof to an existing stadium is definitely possible, but it still requires crazy levels of effort, time and money which is why corrupt BCCI won't agree.

OK.. so in short, the proposal is dead on arrival. Actually the BCCI does not lose any money from rain interruptions. Always it is the TV broadcasters and the fans who suffer. If I am not wrong, the gate collection also goes towards the state associations and not towards the BCCI coffers. And as I mentioned, if there is even a proposal to spend anything upwards of $1 billion on a stadium with retractable roof, then the opposition parties will burn the country. For at least the next 3-4 years, we can forget about such facilities in stadiums.

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Quote from: Haunebu on June 22, 2022, 11:46:00 PM

Quote from: pakhitheboss on June 22, 2022, 05:31:17 AM

It won't be an easy task but convincing of the amount of revenue such stadium will generate might make th state government and the state board agree. If I am correct you can construct retractable celing on an existing stadium. Therefore no need to construct a new one.

It is close to impossible currently to convince the government due to post-COVID economic issues. Also, they stand to lose hefty profits because of retractable roofs which is another reason why they won't agree.

Also, adding a retractable roof to an existing stadium is definitely possible, but it still requires crazy levels of effort, time and money which is why corrupt BCCI won't agree.

The current situation of COVID19 is not that bad yet not that good. I understand there will be many hurdles but if BCCI wants to increase its revenue kitty then they need to consider such options. They are planning to increase IPL duration and by June the monsoon does reach Maharashtra so it will in their best interest.

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