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^^ Leg spinners are dominating in the ICC ranking so i agree.

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India improved their last 2 matches.4th T-20 match, Pandya and Karthik played brilliant knock they played match winning batting. Specially Indian bowler's did well their job now series 2-2.Unfortunately South African Captain did not play last match cz he was injured. What do you think who will win series?

Momentum is with India, and therefore I expect them to win the series. For South Africa, the spinners are leaking too many runs, and the pacers are unable to get the wickets. Kagiso Rabada managed to pick up just two wickets, after conceding 81 runs, while Tabraiz Shamsi picked up one solitary wicket for 102 runs. Anrich Nortje and Keshav Maharaj were slightly better. And for South Africa, the lack of form from their captain remains a concern. So far Temba Bavuma has scored 61 runs from 4 innings.

True momentum is with India but we also shouldn't forget that Proteas never lost the T-20 series in India and i guess they are the only team in the world to not lose any bilateral t-20 series.

Only positive sign is our young team has no baggage so this might work in our favor, hope Proteas choke tomorrow but at the same time we are also big time choker. Grin

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Talent is immense, no doubt about it but if you're not incentivizing the strike rates in T-20 then you deserve to doom. You should never expect becoming impact player in T-20 if your SR is below 140, period!!

You are missing one critical point which is the bowling factor. Scoring at lower strike-rates is absolutely fine as long as they don't waste too many balls. On the other hand, bowlers need to focus on improving their economy rates and taking wickets more consistently.

Completely opposite point of view. Bowlers are important part but T-20 is a format for the batters. In this format we can't expect bowlers to bail out team every time.

Lower strike rates are directly connected to batter wasting opportunity to score runs, not the other way around. If Career SR is hanging around 130-132 then it's understandable because sometime you click, sometime you don't but if your match SR is going down from that mark then it's bad for the team.

Just look at the scorecard of English batting in last match against Netherlands.

In the t20 format actually, it does not matter if a team has the best bowlers. All that matters in a t20 match having good batsmen in the team. Honestly, you don't even need good batsmen on your team. You just need someone who can throw his bat around and get some quick runs. That's why I think it is not very important to have really great bowlers in a team for t20 matches.

But I think it is important to have really good leg-spin bowlers. Because leg-spin bowlers are really mysterious. And that is very important for t20 cricket. And if you think about having fast bowlers on the team they better be able to bowl at a 150 km per hour speed.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 18, 2022, 05:52:50 AM

Momentum is with India, and therefore I expect them to win the series. For South Africa, the spinners are leaking too many runs, and the pacers are unable to get the wickets. Kagiso Rabada managed to pick up just two wickets, after conceding 81 runs, while Tabraiz Shamsi picked up one solitary wicket for 102 runs. Anrich Nortje and Keshav Maharaj were slightly better. And for South Africa, the lack of form from their captain remains a concern. So far Temba Bavuma has scored 61 runs from 4 innings.

India now clearly in command. They lost first two T20I but there performance in first T20I was outstanding as they scored 211 runs. Hardik Pandya is back in squad and he along with Kartik are the main batter who helped India giving target of 169 runs. I am of the view that India will win the last game also.

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Quote from: Mamun74 on June 18, 2022, 05:10:10 AM

India improved their last 2 matches.4th T-20 match, Pandya and Karthik played brilliant knock they played match winning batting. Specially Indian bowler's did well their job now series 2-2.Unfortunately South African Captain did not play last match cz he was injured. What do you think who will win series?

Momentum is with India, and therefore I expect them to win the series. For South Africa, the spinners are leaking too many runs, and the pacers are unable to get the wickets. Kagiso Rabada managed to pick up just two wickets, after conceding 81 runs, while Tabraiz Shamsi picked up one solitary wicket for 102 runs. Anrich Nortje and Keshav Maharaj were slightly better. And for South Africa, the lack of form from their captain remains a concern. So far Temba Bavuma has scored 61 runs from 4 innings.

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In the fourth T20I, India registered a comprehensive victory over South Africa! It was a great performance from the Indian bowlers, they did their job perfectly. From 2-0 down, India moves on to 2-2 to level the series. For the final T20I and to confirm the victory in the T20 series, they just need to keep their motivation high.

India improved their last 2 matches.4th T-20 match, Pandya and Karthik played brilliant knock they played match winning batting. Specially Indian bowler's did well their job now series 2-2.Unfortunately South African Captain did not play last match cz he was injured. What do you think who will win series?

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In the fourth T20I, India registered a comprehensive victory over South Africa! It was a great performance from the Indian bowlers, they did their job perfectly. From 2-0 down, India moves on to 2-2 to level the series. For the final T20I and to confirm the victory in the T20 series, they just need to keep their motivation high.

I was impressed by the performance of the Indian bowlers. India could not win the first match even after giving a target of 212 runs. We then blamed the Indian bowlers. But in the third and fourth matches, the Indian bowlers proved their mettle. In the fourth match, the Indian bowlers were able to pick up all the wickets of South Africa by just 87 runs. Avesh Khan's performance in particular was excellent. He has been able to take four important wickets.

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Talent is immense, no doubt about it but if you're not incentivizing the strike rates in T-20 then you deserve to doom. You should never expect becoming impact player in T-20 if your SR is below 140, period!!

You are missing one critical point which is the bowling factor. Scoring at lower strike-rates is absolutely fine as long as they don't waste too many balls. On the other hand, bowlers need to focus on improving their economy rates and taking wickets more consistently.

Completely opposite point of view. Bowlers are important part but T-20 is a format for the batters. In this format we can't expect bowlers to bail out team every time.

Lower strike rates are directly connected to batter wasting opportunity to score runs, not the other way around. If Career SR is hanging around 130-132 then it's understandable because sometime you click, sometime you don't but if your match SR is going down from that mark then it's bad for the team.

Just look at the scorecard of English batting in last match against Netherlands.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 17, 2022, 10:37:40 AM

Talent is immense, no doubt about it but if you're not incentivizing the strike rates in T-20 then you deserve to doom. You should never expect becoming impact player in T-20 if your SR is below 140, period!!

You are missing one critical point which is the bowling factor. Scoring at lower strike-rates is absolutely fine as long as they don't waste too many balls. On the other hand, bowlers need to focus on improving their economy rates and taking wickets more consistently.

Quote from: Mahdirakib on June 17, 2022, 12:52:19 PM

Probably no one expected such disaster of South Africa batting lineup. I was thinking that South Africa will easily win this series, but now I have doubts about it.

Wrong. These ups and downs are pretty common in the T-20 format(Especially the IPL). Never underestimate any team in the T-20 format which is drastically different when compared to the ODI and Test formats.

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In today's match, India scored only 56 runs in the first 10 overs. The run rate was less than 6. They should have collected at least 70 runs in the first 10 overs.

So? The final result is all that matters at the end of the day. India convincingly destroyed SA in recent matches which is the crucial point.

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Competition for the position of pace bowlers in the Indian national team just got more difficult, with the entry of Avesh Khan. There are just 2-3 spots available, and at least a dozen bowlers are competing for these places. Bhuvneshwar Kumar is the only experienced bowler who is being considered for the T20 selection (I don't think that Jasprit Bumrah will be part of T20 anymore). Among the younger brigade, we have Avesh Khan, Harshal Patel, Natarajan, Umran Malik, Khaleel Ahmed, Mohammad Siraj and Deepak Chahar.

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I am not surprised that India has won. I was surprised to see South Africa's batting. This team won the first match by collecting 212 runs in 19.1 overs. In the second match, they won by scoring 149 runs in 18.2 overs. I am very surprised that the same team will accept a shameful defeat by losing all the wickets for only 87 runs. However, I am waiting for the last match. I think South Africa will win the series.

Probably no one expected such disaster of South Africa batting lineup. South Africa played very well in the first two games. They have chased a big target in the first match. But their batting performance has broken in front of Indian bowling lineup in the third and fourth T20. South Africa got all out in both of those games. I was thinking that South Africa will easily win this series, but now I have doubts about it.

India lost the first two match, which could have been a question mark over the bowling of the Indian cricket team. But the way India have comeback in the last two matches, which I expected. Because a team like India can play one or two match bad but can also come back in a strong way. Now the series has become competitive. I would not be surprised now if India wins the next match and wins the series.

While Indian bowlers have been able to improve their performance, the performance of Indian batsmen has not been good enough. I am not satisfied with the performance of Indian batsmen. In today's match, India scored only 56 runs in the first 10 overs. The run rate was less than 6. They should have collected at least 70 runs in the first 10 overs.

Indo not think the performance of Indian batters was bad. The pitch was suitable for bowlers and I feel SA was not able to keep the pressure on the indian batters after the 12 over. Dinesh Karthik was too agressive and Hardik did the right thing to stay put with him on the pitch. Avesh Khan bowling was excellent yesterday and Chehal has shown consistent performance.

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I am not surprised that India has won. I was surprised to see South Africa's batting. This team won the first match by collecting 212 runs in 19.1 overs. In the second match, they won by scoring 149 runs in 18.2 overs. I am very surprised that the same team will accept a shameful defeat by losing all the wickets for only 87 runs. However, I am waiting for the last match. I think South Africa will win the series.

Probably no one expected such disaster of South Africa batting lineup. South Africa played very well in the first two games. They have chased a big target in the first match. But their batting performance has broken in front of Indian bowling lineup in the third and fourth T20. South Africa got all out in both of those games. I was thinking that South Africa will easily win this series, but now I have doubts about it.

India lost the first two match, which could have been a question mark over the bowling of the Indian cricket team. But the way India have comeback in the last two matches, which I expected. Because a team like India can play one or two match bad but can also come back in a strong way. Now the series has become competitive. I would not be surprised now if India wins the next match and wins the series.

While Indian bowlers have been able to improve their performance, the performance of Indian batsmen has not been good enough. I am not satisfied with the performance of Indian batsmen. In today's match, India scored only 56 runs in the first 10 overs. The run rate was less than 6. They should have collected at least 70 runs in the first 10 overs.

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I am not surprised that India has won. I was surprised to see South Africa's batting. This team won the first match by collecting 212 runs in 19.1 overs. In the second match, they won by scoring 149 runs in 18.2 overs. I am very surprised that the same team will accept a shameful defeat by losing all the wickets for only 87 runs. However, I am waiting for the last match. I think South Africa will win the series.

Probably no one expected such disaster of South Africa batting lineup. South Africa played very well in the first two games. They have chased a big target in the first match. But their batting performance has broken in front of Indian bowling lineup in the third and fourth T20. South Africa got all out in both of those games. I was thinking that South Africa will easily win this series, but now I have doubts about it.

India lost the first two match, which could have been a question mark over the bowling of the Indian cricket team. But the way India have comeback in the last two matches, which I expected. Because a team like India can play one or two match bad but can also come back in a strong way. Now the series has become competitive. I would not be surprised now if India wins the next match and wins the series.

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I am not surprised that India has won. I was surprised to see South Africa's batting. This team won the first match by collecting 212 runs in 19.1 overs. In the second match, they won by scoring 149 runs in 18.2 overs. I am very surprised that the same team will accept a shameful defeat by losing all the wickets for only 87 runs. However, I am waiting for the last match. I think South Africa will win the series.

Probably no one expected such disaster of South Africa batting lineup. South Africa played very well in the first two games. They have chased a big target in the first match. But their batting performance has broken in front of Indian bowling lineup in the third and fourth T20. South Africa got all out in both of those games. I was thinking that South Africa will easily win this series, but now I have doubts about it.

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India VS South Africa

The fourth T20 match between South Africa and India will be played today. If India can win today's match then the series will be drawn 2-2. And the outcome of the series will depend on the last match. India's performance in the third match was excellent. They have improved on both batting and bowling. But a little better batting was expected from the batsmen. My guess is that India will win today's match and draw the series.

SA is looking too good in this T20 series though India fight back well and they have to win today's game to keep the series alive. In today's game India will definitely play in pressure as a loss today means they will lose the series. SA on the other are favorite for today's game as de kock is in good touch.

India scored 169 runs in their first innings and gave them a target of 170 runs. Do you think this is enough score for the Indians to defend? Remember in the last T20, Indian scored 179 runs and won the match. Do you think India will be able to defend this score and make the series a level with 2 - 2 ?
I think if South Africa does not lose early wickets, they may win this match however it won't be an easy task.

I am not surprised that India has won. I was surprised to see South Africa's batting. This team won the first match by collecting 212 runs in 19.1 overs. In the second match, they won by scoring 149 runs in 18.2 overs. I am very surprised that the same team will accept a shameful defeat by losing all the wickets for only 87 runs. However, I am waiting for the last match. I think South Africa will win the series.

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In the fourth match like the third T20, we can see the dominance of Indian bowlers. They are bowling exceptionally. India has given a target of only 170 runs. But despite batting at this target, South Africa has faced a batting disaster. And the match is completely under Indian control at the moment. South Africa lost 7 wickets for only 78 runs. 92 runs needed in just 6 overs to win more. Which is impossible for South Africa to collect.

After winning the first two matches with great batting, I never imagined that I would see such bad batting from South Africa. Batting for 212 in the first match, South Africa won easily. But they lost all their wickets for only 131 runs in the third match. And in the fourth match, their condition is more terrible. They lost all their wickets for just 87 runs. At the moment it looks like India will win the series.

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It looks like we won very convincedly, i don't think no one expected that, except curator i suppose.

I'm not going to lie, i didn't even watch a single ball of this match but i was keeping tab on crickbuzz when we were batting and i still stand on my previous statement.

It's good that we won but fans should be honest and it's a fact that these young blood didn't showed any intent at all when batting.

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In the fourth match like the third T20, we can see the dominance of Indian bowlers. They are bowling exceptionally. India has given a target of only 170 runs. But despite batting at this target, South Africa has faced a batting disaster. And the match is completely under Indian control at the moment. South Africa lost 7 wickets for only 78 runs. 92 runs needed in just 6 overs to win more. Which is impossible for South Africa to collect.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 17, 2022, 10:37:40 AM

I'm going to be honest.

The way Indian cricket team treats the limited overs cricket, they are never going to become the World Cup winner.

Talent is immense, no doubt about it but if you're not incentivizing the strike rates in T-20 then you deserve to doom. You should never expect becoming impact player in T-20 if your SR is below 140, period!!

You never know - I think luck is a very important factor in sports. But if there is one team which proved that only the team work and determination helps winning the match - that is Australia.

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I'm going to be honest.

The way Indian cricket team treats the limited overs cricket, they are never going to become the World Cup winner.

Talent is immense, no doubt about it but if you're not incentivizing the strike rates in T-20 then you deserve to doom. You should never expect becoming impact player in T-20 if your SR is below 140, period!!

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India VS South Africa

The fourth T20 match between South Africa and India will be played today. If India can win today's match then the series will be drawn 2-2. And the outcome of the series will depend on the last match. India's performance in the third match was excellent. They have improved on both batting and bowling. But a little better batting was expected from the batsmen. My guess is that India will win today's match and draw the series.

SA is looking too good in this T20 series though India fight back well and they have to win today's game to keep the series alive. In today's game India will definitely play in pressure as a loss today means they will lose the series. SA on the other are favorite for today's game as de kock is in good touch.

India scored 169 runs in their first innings and gave them a target of 170 runs. Do you think this is enough score for the Indians to defend? Remember in the last T20, Indian scored 179 runs and won the match. Do you think India will be able to defend this score and make the series a level with 2 - 2 ?
I think if South Africa does not lose early wickets, they may win this match however it won't be an easy task.

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