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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 15, 2021, 08:36:44 AM

At the most, they can move the tournament to some other country, but this option is not viable now. They should not complain much. There is no entertainment tax or corporate tax in the UAE. If this tournament was conducted in India, then the BCCI will be forced to pay 43% of the total revenues as tax to the government. They are saving all that amount and therefore it would be a good idea to reimburse some of that money to the franchises.

UAE is the only viable solution for the BCCI to conduct the tournament and other countries will not accept any major tournaments with full crowd capacity and the only country that allow crowds in the stadium are UK as have seen crowds during the recent England New Zealand Test match and US where the UFC is filling up stadiums for their PPV.

If they are able to save 43% of tax it is a huge number and they do not need to complain further and look for alternatives.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on June 15, 2021, 11:00:04 AM

You are right, BCCI is saving a lot of money by holding IPL in UAE. Moreover, even though the IPL was held in India at the moment, the Indian government did not allow spectators to go on the field. However, as a general spectator I am happy if the IPL is held. Because IPL is just entertainment for me. And I will bet on IPL matches.

It is true that the BCCI is saving a lot of money by conducting the tournament in one of the tax havens. But at the same time, the government was compelling them to stage the remainder of the tournament in India. The government is also running short of money (as the tax collections have been impacted by the COVID pandemic). In the end, Ganguly and the rest of the BCCI management convinced the central government that foreign players are unlikely to take part if the tournament is held in India.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on June 15, 2021, 07:55:53 AM

@Sithara007 this shall be a blow for the franchises as BCCI had already reduced their revenues, and I feel they’ll try and allow spectators back in the stadium as it makes financial sense. Furthermore I feel Dubai situation is much better, and we should be able to see the fans in the stand unless a new wave of covid starts.

The decision is not in the hands of the BCCI. If the UAE government doesn't allow spectators, then BCCI can't go against that decision. At the most, they can move the tournament to some other country, but this option is not viable now. They should not complain much. There is no entertainment tax or corporate tax in the UAE. If this tournament was conducted in India, then the BCCI will be forced to pay 43% of the total revenues as tax to the government. They are saving all that amount and therefore it would be a good idea to reimburse some of that money to the franchises.

You are right, BCCI is saving a lot of money by holding IPL in UAE. Moreover, even though the IPL was held in India at the moment, the Indian government did not allow spectators to go on the field. However, as a general spectator I am happy if the IPL is held. Because IPL is just entertainment for me. And I will bet on IPL matches.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on June 15, 2021, 07:55:53 AM

@Sithara007 this shall be a blow for the franchises as BCCI had already reduced their revenues, and I feel they’ll try and allow spectators back in the stadium as it makes financial sense. Furthermore I feel Dubai situation is much better, and we should be able to see the fans in the stand unless a new wave of covid starts.

The decision is not in the hands of the BCCI. If the UAE government doesn't allow spectators, then BCCI can't go against that decision. At the most, they can move the tournament to some other country, but this option is not viable now. They should not complain much. There is no entertainment tax or corporate tax in the UAE. If this tournament was conducted in India, then the BCCI will be forced to pay 43% of the total revenues as tax to the government. They are saving all that amount and therefore it would be a good idea to reimburse some of that money to the franchises.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on June 14, 2021, 01:36:42 PM

So the gate collection goes to the franchise, this is new information. So the home team gets the gate collection and how the team owners are getting the compensation and how much revenue they usually make with the gate money, in other sports they make millions of dollars every gate but i have not heard anyone talking about the gate money in cricket even though we see full stadiums all the time.

I guess that is the case with most of the franchise T20 leagues around the world. The gate collection goes to the franchise, although they need to cover the expenses as well (such as security staff, ticket management.etc). Now with the PSL and IPL matches shifted to UAE, I don't know how the revenue sharing agreement is going to work out. There will be zero gate collection, as the crowd is not allowed. But the franchises still need to take care of the expenses related to match hosting. The agreement they have for IPL is that 80% of the gate receipts go to the franchise and the remainder goes to BCCI.

@Sithara007 this shall be a blow for the franchises as BCCI had already reduced their revenues, and I feel they’ll try and allow spectators back in the stadium as it makes financial sense. Furthermore I feel Dubai situation is much better, and we should be able to see the fans in the stand unless a new wave of covid starts.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on June 14, 2021, 01:36:42 PM

So the gate collection goes to the franchise, this is new information. So the home team gets the gate collection and how the team owners are getting the compensation and how much revenue they usually make with the gate money, in other sports they make millions of dollars every gate but i have not heard anyone talking about the gate money in cricket even though we see full stadiums all the time.

I guess that is the case with most of the franchise T20 leagues around the world. The gate collection goes to the franchise, although they need to cover the expenses as well (such as security staff, ticket management.etc). Now with the PSL and IPL matches shifted to UAE, I don't know how the revenue sharing agreement is going to work out. There will be zero gate collection, as the crowd is not allowed. But the franchises still need to take care of the expenses related to match hosting. The agreement they have for IPL is that 80% of the gate receipts go to the franchise and the remainder goes to BCCI.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 14, 2021, 11:57:38 AM

For the franchises, the gate collection is important. But the PCB and the BCCI can ignore the issue, because they don't benefit from the gate collection. Franchises need to make a difficult choice of allowing spectators in the stand and thereby risking another disruption to the tournament, or the smooth conduct of the remaining matches. I am sure that most of them would opt for the latter option. Some of the fans may be disappointed with the lack of spectators in the stands. That can't be helped, unfortunately.

So the gate collection goes to the franchise, this is new information. So the home team gets the gate collection and how the team owners are getting the compensation and how much revenue they usually make with the gate money, in other sports they make millions of dollars every gate but i have not heard anyone talking about the gate money in cricket even though we see full stadiums all the time.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on June 14, 2021, 11:05:54 AM

Probably the authorities of PSL and IPL are more interested to complete the remaining of the tournament and they can sacrifice the income which may come from the spectators. The deal is good because people can watch and enjoy the remaining tournament on the TV and it does not make much of the difference. We are now used to it . Aren't we ?

For the franchises, the gate collection is important. But the PCB and the BCCI can ignore the issue, because they don't benefit from the gate collection. Franchises need to make a difficult choice of allowing spectators in the stand and thereby risking another disruption to the tournament, or the smooth conduct of the remaining matches. I am sure that most of them would opt for the latter option. Some of the fans may be disappointed with the lack of spectators in the stands. That can't be helped, unfortunately.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on June 14, 2021, 11:05:54 AM

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Quote from: Iranus on June 14, 2021, 02:18:22 AM

The spectator is the lifeblood of the game. When there are spectators on the field, the players get more excited and try to play better. Due to covid, all kinds of games have become a bit slow. The spectators cannot go to the field. The matches of PSL and IPL are not as lively as before.

In case you want spectators, then the tournament needs to be shifted to some country where spectators are allowed (I am talking about countries such as England). The UAE government doesn't allow spectators in stadiums and there is nothing that the PCB or the BCCI (or for that matter the ICC) can do about it. In England the Vitality Blast T20 tournament is going on, and I can see thousands of fans in the stands. And some of the British counties had offered to host the IPL in England, which was turned down by the BCCI.

Probably the authorities of PSL and IPL are more interested to complete the remaining of the tournament and they can sacrifice the income which may come from the spectators. The deal is good because people can watch and enjoy the remaining tournament on the TV and it does not make much of the difference. We are now used to it . Aren't we ?

I agree with you. We are now accustomed to enjoying the game on TV. Most of the revenue for big tournaments like PSL and IPL comes from broadcasting. And so the board wants to end this season of IPL and PSL by any means to please these broadcasters.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on June 14, 2021, 11:05:54 AM

Probably the authorities of PSL and IPL are more interested to complete the remaining of the tournament and they can sacrifice the income which may come from the spectators. The deal is good because people can watch and enjoy the remaining tournament on the TV and it does not make much of the difference. We are now used to it . Aren't we ?

There were no spectators even when the tournament was undergoing and their respective boards were not having any plans to allow audience and that is what they are doing now and the need to continue the tournament because the loss they will be encountering because of media rights will be huge and so is the reason they are forced to continue elsewhere and that is what i understand.

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Quote from: Iranus on June 14, 2021, 02:18:22 AM

The spectator is the lifeblood of the game. When there are spectators on the field, the players get more excited and try to play better. Due to covid, all kinds of games have become a bit slow. The spectators cannot go to the field. The matches of PSL and IPL are not as lively as before.

In case you want spectators, then the tournament needs to be shifted to some country where spectators are allowed (I am talking about countries such as England). The UAE government doesn't allow spectators in stadiums and there is nothing that the PCB or the BCCI (or for that matter the ICC) can do about it. In England the Vitality Blast T20 tournament is going on, and I can see thousands of fans in the stands. And some of the British counties had offered to host the IPL in England, which was turned down by the BCCI.

Probably the authorities of PSL and IPL are more interested to complete the remaining of the tournament and they can sacrifice the income which may come from the spectators. The deal is good because people can watch and enjoy the remaining tournament on the TV and it does not make much of the difference. We are now used to it . Aren't we ?

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Quote from: Iranus on June 14, 2021, 02:18:22 AM

The spectator is the lifeblood of the game. When there are spectators on the field, the players get more excited and try to play better. Due to covid, all kinds of games have become a bit slow. The spectators cannot go to the field. The matches of PSL and IPL are not as lively as before.

In case you want spectators, then the tournament needs to be shifted to some country where spectators are allowed (I am talking about countries such as England). The UAE government doesn't allow spectators in stadiums and there is nothing that the PCB or the BCCI (or for that matter the ICC) can do about it. In England the Vitality Blast T20 tournament is going on, and I can see thousands of fans in the stands. And some of the British counties had offered to host the IPL in England, which was turned down by the BCCI.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on June 13, 2021, 11:40:21 AM

I am watching PSL matches regularly but was not active on the forum in the last week or so, so could not discuss about it recently.
By the way there are no issues so far and tournament is going good so far. However, empty stadiums are only thing which i don't like at the present.

The situation in the UAE is not that great and the government might not allow huge gathering and you need to comply with empty stadiums if the match is taking place in India or any other Asian countries or in the UAE. England started allowing audience in the stadium and the match between England and New Zealand was interesting as we are seeing audience after a long gap.

The spectator is the lifeblood of the game. When there are spectators on the field, the players get more excited and try to play better. Due to covid, all kinds of games have become a bit slow. The spectators cannot go to the field. The matches of PSL and IPL are not as lively as before.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on June 13, 2021, 11:40:21 AM

I am watching PSL matches regularly but was not active on the forum in the last week or so, so could not discuss about it recently.
By the way there are no issues so far and tournament is going good so far. However, empty stadiums are only thing which i don't like at the present.

Most of the revenues are coming from the TV broadcast deals and from sponsorship. So it doesn't make sense to allow fans in to the stadiums. I know that the UAE has managed to vaccinate more than 60% of its population, but recently there have been reports of vaccinated people getting infected with the Delta (B.1.617.2) strain. The organizers can't be complacent this time. They were complacent once, and then paid the price for it. In all probability, they don't want a repeat of what happened back then, when the tournament had to be suspended due to bubble-breach.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on June 13, 2021, 11:40:21 AM

I am watching PSL matches regularly but was not active on the forum in the last week or so, so could not discuss about it recently.
By the way there are no issues so far and tournament is going good so far. However, empty stadiums are only thing which i don't like at the present.

The situation in the UAE is not that great and the government might not allow huge gathering and you need to comply with empty stadiums if the match is taking place in India or any other Asian countries or in the UAE. England started allowing audience in the stadium and the match between England and New Zealand was interesting as we are seeing audience after a long gap.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on June 12, 2021, 11:57:23 AM

Isn't anyone here interested in PSL? Why doesn't anyone discuss about PSL related issues? It is also a big betting platform.

I am watching PSL matches regularly but was not active on the forum in the last week or so, so could not discuss about it recently.
By the way there are no issues so far and tournament is going good so far. However, empty stadiums are only thing which i don't like at the present.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on June 13, 2021, 07:40:26 AM

Absolutely once the momentum is gone the interest fades away. Yes, big names have already left the tournaments not much is left to see and enjoy. I am least interested now and rather wait for the upcoming tournament.

I am just waiting for the T20 World Cup to start. IPL has become too money-minded anyways. What worries me is that the ICC hasn't yet confirmed the schedule and the fixtures. There is a real chance that the tournament may be postponed yet again, to accommodate the BCCI. That would be real tragedy, as it was already postponed once. It is such a packed calendar now. PSL is ongoing, and once it ends the CPL will begin. And after that we will have the IPL. Ideally the franchise leagues should be moved to make room for the international events. But in cricket it is the other way around.

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Frankly I have no interest in PSL or IPL as they go interrupted in between. Plus you again need to go back to check what was the standing of teams at the time of interruption to enjoy the present matches which I am bit lazy to check. What intrest me now is the upcoming World Cup.

Same here as well. When the tournament gets disrupted in between, the interest gets lost. I don't even remember the points table for IPL, and don't know which team is on top and which ones are at the bottom. Also, many of the players who took part in the initial stage of the IPL is going to be unavailable for the second phase. The franchises have made the replacement, but the quality will go down without a doubt. Some of the Australian and New Zealand players may still participate, but I am doubtful about the England players. They have already stated that apart from a few exceptions the England players are going to skip the remainder of the tournament.

Absolutely once the momentum is gone the interest fades away. Yes, big names have already left the tournaments not much is left to see and enjoy. I am least interested now and rather wait for the upcoming tournament.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on June 13, 2021, 02:13:16 AM

Frankly I have no interest in PSL or IPL as they go interrupted in between. Plus you again need to go back to check what was the standing of teams at the time of interruption to enjoy the present matches which I am bit lazy to check. What intrest me now is the upcoming World Cup.

Same here as well. When the tournament gets disrupted in between, the interest gets lost. I don't even remember the points table for IPL, and don't know which team is on top and which ones are at the bottom. Also, many of the players who took part in the initial stage of the IPL is going to be unavailable for the second phase. The franchises have made the replacement, but the quality will go down without a doubt. Some of the Australian and New Zealand players may still participate, but I am doubtful about the England players. They have already stated that apart from a few exceptions the England players are going to skip the remainder of the tournament.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on June 13, 2021, 02:13:16 AM

Quote from: LittleBitFunny on June 12, 2021, 11:57:23 AM

Isn't anyone here interested in PSL? Why doesn't anyone discuss about PSL related issues? It is also a big betting platform.
The match between Peshawar Zalmi and Quetta Gladiator is being held at the moment. And Peshawre has collected only 67 runs in 10 overs, by losing only 2 wickets. I bet on the victory of Quetta Gladiators in this match.

Frankly I have no interest in PSL or IPL as they go interrupted in between. Plus you again need to go back to check what was the standing of teams at the time of interruption to enjoy the present matches which I am bit lazy to check. What intrest me now is the upcoming World Cup.

Once the match starts you'll get interested on it, because when you start watching you'll get all the related updates provided by the AI backed Google search engine.

I was amazed to see the maturity level of Shakib Al Hasan on the Dhaka Premier League. Being a senior player of the team he needs to have patience and should make the players in discipline. Anyhow the board is good to ban him for three matches and fined $5800

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