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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on September 08, 2021, 02:39:53 AM

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Nothing is guaranteed, especially if the format is T20. The advantage for Bangladesh is that two of the teams from each group in the qualifying stage will progress to the main tournament. So they can afford to lose one match. They are in a relatively easy group, along with Papua New Guinea, Scotland and Oman. Of the other three teams, PNG has been in pathetic form recently. Oman do have the home advantage, but their players lack experience. Only Scotland has a chance to make an upset.

Actually these qualifying matches are a joke, ony a fluke could change the fortunes and i am sure they do not want a team like Bangladesh to sit out due to a fluke in a major ICC event. What i think is, do they really need these qualifying matches as if there are several hundred teams like in Football trying to claim a place and there is only a limited spot Grin

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Like football, the World Wide Games, cricket has not spread so much yet. Very few countries perform regularly in cricket. The ICC could have increased the number of teams performing in the World Cup if it wanted to. Given the opportunity to play on a platform like the World Cup, maybe the weaker teams would try harder to build themselves stronger, maybe their government would care more about cricket.

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Nothing is guaranteed, especially if the format is T20. The advantage for Bangladesh is that two of the teams from each group in the qualifying stage will progress to the main tournament. So they can afford to lose one match. They are in a relatively easy group, along with Papua New Guinea, Scotland and Oman. Of the other three teams, PNG has been in pathetic form recently. Oman do have the home advantage, but their players lack experience. Only Scotland has a chance to make an upset.

Actually these qualifying matches are a joke, ony a fluke could change the fortunes and i am sure they do not want a team like Bangladesh to sit out due to a fluke in a major ICC event. What i think is, do they really need these qualifying matches as if there are several hundred teams like in Football trying to claim a place and there is only a limited spot Grin

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on September 07, 2021, 06:58:10 PM

Bangladesh will easily qualify as the match is played in spin friendly pitches in the UAE. The main issue is see with New Zealand is that their main players are rested and they cannot come out and play well without any match practice.

Nothing is guaranteed, especially if the format is T20. The advantage for Bangladesh is that two of the teams from each group in the qualifying stage will progress to the main tournament. So they can afford to lose one match. They are in a relatively easy group, along with Papua New Guinea, Scotland and Oman. Of the other three teams, PNG has been in pathetic form recently. Oman do have the home advantage, but their players lack experience. Only Scotland has a chance to make an upset.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 07, 2021, 01:24:25 PM

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The pitch is really playing a good role in every match its an easy thing that the subcontinent is always make such a crease mostly in Bangladesh .However Newzealand played really on the last match they won .The series become more interesting now .The next match is schedule on tomorrow .Newzealand will try hard to make it 2-2 on the other hand Bangladesh will try to win the series before the last match .Let's see what really happen on Mirpur in Banglasdesh.

Anything will be a bonus for New Zealand. Remember that they sent such a young team to Bangladesh, and they got whacked in the first two matches. But they came back strongly in the third match, with the Kiwi spinners routing the much more experienced Bangladeshi batsmen. If they could make it 2-2, then it will be some sort of an achievement. And in all probability, it will give a big boost for New Zealand ahead of the T20 World Cup. Also, it needs to be remembered that Bangladesh needs to play the qualifier stage, while New Zealand goes directly to the main stage of the world cup.

You are expecting too much from and a fresh team like NZ. One win by them does not mean they will be able to level the series. Bangladesh whereas is far much experienced and this will be an advantage for them today. I am sure they would come back and win today's match. It is highly unlikely that NZ will win this series.

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Anything will be a bonus for New Zealand. Remember that they sent such a young team to Bangladesh, and they got whacked in the first two matches. But they came back strongly in the third match, with the Kiwi spinners routing the much more experienced Bangladeshi batsmen. If they could make it 2-2, then it will be some sort of an achievement.

New Zealand is experimenting with the players and giving youngsters the opportunity but it is hard for anyone to bat in pitches like these. The positive aspect is that the New Zealand spinners are taking this opportunity and since the World Cup is played in UAE the spinners will get a chance to play.

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And in all probability, it will give a big boost for New Zealand ahead of the T20 World Cup. Also, it needs to be remembered that Bangladesh needs to play the qualifier stage, while New Zealand goes directly to the main stage of the world cup.

Bangladesh will easily qualify as the match is played in spin friendly pitches in the UAE. The main issue is see with New Zealand is that their main players are rested and they cannot come out and play well without any match practice.

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Quote from: sarmrakib on September 07, 2021, 09:39:56 AM

The pitch is really playing a good role in every match its an easy thing that the subcontinent is always make such a crease mostly in Bangladesh .However Newzealand played really on the last match they won .The series become more interesting now .The next match is schedule on tomorrow .Newzealand will try hard to make it 2-2 on the other hand Bangladesh will try to win the series before the last match .Let's see what really happen on Mirpur in Banglasdesh.

Anything will be a bonus for New Zealand. Remember that they sent such a young team to Bangladesh, and they got whacked in the first two matches. But they came back strongly in the third match, with the Kiwi spinners routing the much more experienced Bangladeshi batsmen. If they could make it 2-2, then it will be some sort of an achievement. And in all probability, it will give a big boost for New Zealand ahead of the T20 World Cup. Also, it needs to be remembered that Bangladesh needs to play the qualifier stage, while New Zealand goes directly to the main stage of the world cup.

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Bangladeshi batsmen's performance is not consistent so they have been defeated. The pitch cannot be blamed. The pitch in this series is good enough. Bigger than that, Bangladesh is accustomed to playing on such a pitch. They know what the pitch is like. Even then their performance was dismal.

The pitch has received a lot of blame, because it was tailormade for the Bangladeshi players. Unfortunately the next two matches are also scheduled to be played at the Sher-e-Bangla National Stadium at Mirpur and I don't expect any improvement in ground conditions. The good news for New Zealand is that now their players (both the batsmen and the bowlers) have got adjusted to the conditions, as seen from the exceptional performance by Ajaz Patel and Cole McConchie during the third T20I match. The remaining two matches can go either way.

A good overall performance by the NZ team. Bangladesh lost because their batsmen were not able to face the Kiwi bowlers. Two more matches are left. Bangladesh is already leading 2-1 and I expect the next match might be won by the Bangladesh team. If they win then they will win the tournament.

The pitch is really playing a good role in every match its an easy thing that the subcontinent is always make such a crease mostly in Bangladesh .However Newzealand played really on the last match they won .The series become more interesting now .The next match is schedule on tomorrow .Newzealand will try hard to make it 2-2 on the other hand Bangladesh will try to win the series before the last match .Let's see what really happen on Mirpur in Banglasdesh .

In this series, as Bangladesh has made the pitch, if you want to win, you must play well. You have to perform well in both batting and bowling. The bowlers bowled well but the batsmen did not perform their duties properly, in which case it is not possible to win the match. So it is difficult to say which team will win on such a pitch. However, Bangladesh will definitely be a little ahead, as they are used to playing on such a pitch.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on September 07, 2021, 01:32:29 AM

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Bangladeshi batsmen's performance is not consistent so they have been defeated. The pitch cannot be blamed. The pitch in this series is good enough. Bigger than that, Bangladesh is accustomed to playing on such a pitch. They know what the pitch is like. Even then their performance was dismal.

The pitch has received a lot of blame, because it was tailormade for the Bangladeshi players. Unfortunately the next two matches are also scheduled to be played at the Sher-e-Bangla National Stadium at Mirpur and I don't expect any improvement in ground conditions. The good news for New Zealand is that now their players (both the batsmen and the bowlers) have got adjusted to the conditions, as seen from the exceptional performance by Ajaz Patel and Cole McConchie during the third T20I match. The remaining two matches can go either way.

A good overall performance by the NZ team. Bangladesh lost because their batsmen were not able to face the Kiwi bowlers. Two more matches are left. Bangladesh is already leading 2-1 and I expect the next match might be won by the Bangladesh team. If they win then they will win the tournament.

The pitch is really playing a good role in every match its an easy thing that the subcontinent is always make such a crease mostly in Bangladesh .However Newzealand played really on the last match they won .The series become more interesting now .The next match is schedule on tomorrow .Newzealand will try hard to make it 2-2 on the other hand Bangladesh will try to win the series before the last match .Let's see what really happen on Mirpur in Banglasdesh .

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Quote from: BALIK on September 07, 2021, 04:00:50 AM

Batsmen must perform well to win today's match. Since the pitch is spin-friendly, the spin bowlers of both the teams are bowling well. Now the batsmen of the team who can perform a little better will win. My guess is that the team that gets the chance to bat first will get some extra facilities.

The 4th match is scheduled for tomorrow and not today. I don't expect any big surprises, as it will be played on the same ground as the first three matches. We can expect another spin-friendly track. But the question is which side would make the maximum use out of it. In the third match, the New Zealand spinners bowled really well and destroyed the Bangladeshi batting lineup. Let's see whether the Bangladeshis will fare better this time. I have to say that this is a credible performance from New Zealand. Given the fact that they are without their best players and facing very hostile conditions.

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Bangladeshi batsmen's performance is not consistent so they have been defeated. The pitch cannot be blamed. The pitch in this series is good enough. Bigger than that, Bangladesh is accustomed to playing on such a pitch. They know what the pitch is like. Even then their performance was dismal.

The pitch has received a lot of blame, because it was tailormade for the Bangladeshi players. Unfortunately the next two matches are also scheduled to be played at the Sher-e-Bangla National Stadium at Mirpur and I don't expect any improvement in ground conditions. The good news for New Zealand is that now their players (both the batsmen and the bowlers) have got adjusted to the conditions, as seen from the exceptional performance by Ajaz Patel and Cole McConchie during the third T20I match. The remaining two matches can go either way.

A good overall performance by the NZ team. Bangladesh lost because their batsmen were not able to face the Kiwi bowlers. Two more matches are left. Bangladesh is already leading 2-1 and I expect the next match might be won by the Bangladesh team. If they win then they will win the tournament.

Batsmen must perform well to win today's match. Since the pitch is spin-friendly, the spin bowlers of both the teams are bowling well. Now the batsmen of the team who can perform a little better will win. My guess is that the team that gets the chance to bat first will get some extra facilities.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 06, 2021, 10:25:08 PM

Quote from: BALIK on September 06, 2021, 02:02:29 PM

Bangladeshi batsmen's performance is not consistent so they have been defeated. The pitch cannot be blamed. The pitch in this series is good enough. Bigger than that, Bangladesh is accustomed to playing on such a pitch. They know what the pitch is like. Even then their performance was dismal.

The pitch has received a lot of blame, because it was tailormade for the Bangladeshi players. Unfortunately the next two matches are also scheduled to be played at the Sher-e-Bangla National Stadium at Mirpur and I don't expect any improvement in ground conditions. The good news for New Zealand is that now their players (both the batsmen and the bowlers) have got adjusted to the conditions, as seen from the exceptional performance by Ajaz Patel and Cole McConchie during the third T20I match. The remaining two matches can go either way.

A good overall performance by the NZ team. Bangladesh lost because their batsmen were not able to face the Kiwi bowlers. Two more matches are left. Bangladesh is already leading 2-1 and I expect the next match might be won by the Bangladesh team. If they win then they will win the tournament.

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Quote from: BALIK on September 06, 2021, 02:02:29 PM

Bangladeshi batsmen's performance is not consistent so they have been defeated. The pitch cannot be blamed. The pitch in this series is good enough. Bigger than that, Bangladesh is accustomed to playing on such a pitch. They know what the pitch is like. Even then their performance was dismal.

The pitch has received a lot of blame, because it was tailormade for the Bangladeshi players. Unfortunately the next two matches are also scheduled to be played at the Sher-e-Bangla National Stadium at Mirpur and I don't expect any improvement in ground conditions. The good news for New Zealand is that now their players (both the batsmen and the bowlers) have got adjusted to the conditions, as seen from the exceptional performance by Ajaz Patel and Cole McConchie during the third T20I match. The remaining two matches can go either way.

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Bangladesh got a taste of their own medicine for preparing spin friendly wickets when New Zealand had two spinners in their playing eleven and they took majority of the wickets Cheesy

. New Zealand set a moderate target and Bangladesh struggled against New Zealand spinners, this is what we call a turn around Cheesy

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Bangladesh must keep their feet on the ground. We do not blame the pitch thoroughly, since conditions are improving. Batsmen get the runs smoothly as runs keep coming in. Are they trapped in their own cheap trick? However, spinning friendly wickets are no longer suitable to them. As a result of batting negligence, Bangladesh lose the third T20I, while New Zealand bowls in well manner.

Bangladeshi batsmen's performance is not consistent so they have been defeated. The pitch cannot be blamed. The pitch in this series is good enough. Bigger than that, Bangladesh is accustomed to playing on such a pitch. They know what the pitch is like. Even then their performance was dismal.

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Quote from: onecall123 on September 06, 2021, 11:17:29 AM

Bangladesh must keep their feet on the ground. We do not blame the pitch thoroughly, since conditions are improving. Batsmen get the runs smoothly as runs keep coming in. Are they trapped in their own cheap trick? However, spinning friendly wickets are no longer suitable to them. As a result of batting negligence, Bangladesh lose the third T20I, while New Zealand bowls in well manner.

There have been some criticism directed at the pitch.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/ban-vs-nz-2021-mirpur-pitches-could-do-bangladesh-t20-world-cup-prep-more-harm-than-good-1276510

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Less than 45 days out from the T20 World Cup, Bangladesh are walking a tightrope between whipping up a winning feeling and experiencing a slump in their batters' confidence, with the pitches at the Shere Bangla National Stadium in Dhaka at the centre of this conundrum. The surfaces haven't come together well; they have lacked pace and produced sharp spin and uneven bounce. It's unlikely Bangladesh will play on similar tracks in Oman and the UAE when the T20 World Cup gets underway on October 17.

Preparing tracks that suit the spin bowlers is OK... but in this case the BCB seems to have gone too far. I don't expect the ICC to prepare similar wickets for the T20 World Cup, because that will have an impact on the television revenues. The tracks are likely to be very flat, with totals of 180-200 enough for a win. Now the question is whether Bangladesh can get adjusted to the conditions in UAE and Oman, after playing in spin-friendly tracks for the last few months.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on September 05, 2021, 12:41:03 PM

Bangladesh got a taste of their own medicine for preparing spin friendly wickets when New Zealand had two spinners in their playing eleven and they took majority of the wickets Cheesy

. New Zealand set a moderate target and Bangladesh struggled against New Zealand spinners, this is what we call a turn around Cheesy

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Bangladesh must keep their feet on the ground. We do not blame the pitch thoroughly, since conditions are improving. Batsmen get the runs smoothly as runs keep coming in. Are they trapped in their own cheap trick? However, spinning friendly wickets are no longer suitable to them. As a result of batting negligence, Bangladesh lose the third T20I, while New Zealand bowls in well manner.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 06, 2021, 06:22:23 AM

World Cup matches are going to take place in the UAE and Oman, and the pitches are supposed to be either flat or spin-friendly (although up to a certain limit). It would be good, if they prepare surfaces that are more conductive to batting for the remaining matches. This time Bangladesh have to play in the qualifier stage (among the full member nations, only Bangladesh and Sri Lanka need to do that). So they need to play matches against Oman, Papua New Guinea and Scotland. Those matches will provide them with good practise.

Although UAE and Oman pitches are spin-friendly,but it is possible to collect good enough runs on such pitches. Not as bad as the pitches in Bangladesh. Besides, I think Bangladesh will play in the qualifying round, which is good for them. They can consider these matches as preparation matches. However, even if the opponent is weak, any batsman can become terrible at any time in T20 format. Bangladesh players must show good performance.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on September 06, 2021, 01:55:08 AM

The pitch doesn't seem to be completely spin-friendly. We have seen in previous matches that batting is good enough on such a pitch. From this pitch, the pitches that Bangladesh made against Australia were even more terrible. However, ahead of the World Cup, Bangladesh should have built a world-class pitch instead of a spin-friendly pitch. So that their batsmen are able to gain some experience.

World Cup matches are going to take place in the UAE and Oman, and the pitches are supposed to be either flat or spin-friendly (although up to a certain limit). It would be good, if they prepare surfaces that are more conductive to batting for the remaining matches. This time Bangladesh have to play in the qualifier stage (among the full member nations, only Bangladesh and Sri Lanka need to do that). So they need to play matches against Oman, Papua New Guinea and Scotland. Those matches will provide them with good practise.

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^^ What do you expect when Asian batsman loose 7 wickets to spinners and that is how Bangladesh lost the match. Bangladesh was chocking other touring countries by preparing spin friendly wickets and now they chocked themselves. I am yet to watch the highlights of the match but looking at the scoreboard the verdict is clear as Bangladesh choked playing the spin as the total they are chasing was not that huge.

The pitch doesn't seem to be completely spin-friendly. We have seen in previous matches that batting is good enough on such a pitch. From this pitch, the pitches that Bangladesh made against Australia were even more terrible. However, ahead of the World Cup, Bangladesh should have built a world-class pitch instead of a spin-friendly pitch. So that their batsmen are able to gain some experience.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on September 05, 2021, 12:41:03 PM

Bangladesh got a taste of their own medicine for preparing spin friendly wickets when New Zealand had two spinners in their playing eleven and they took majority of the wickets Cheesy

. New Zealand set a moderate target and Bangladesh struggled against New Zealand spinners, this is what we call a turn around Cheesy

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That happens once every now and then. The reverse also happens sometimes. SENA nations prepare pace-friendly pitches and sometimes it is the sub-continental pacers who make the maximum use of it. Bangladeshi batsmen couldn't handle the spinners this time. Yesterday the star of the show was Ajaz Patel. He castled four of the top Bangladeshi batsmen. Ajaz was born in India, and migrated to New Zealand when he was 7 years old. His case is similar to Ish Sodhi (who also immigrated to NZ when he was a child).

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^^ What do you expect when Asian batsman loose 7 wickets to spinners and that is how Bangladesh lost the match. Bangladesh was chocking other touring countries by preparing spin friendly wickets and now they chocked themselves. I am yet to watch the highlights of the match but looking at the scoreboard the verdict is clear as Bangladesh choked playing the spin as the total they are chasing was not that huge.

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