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What a competitive match! In the fourth T20 match of the series, Australia batted first and set a huge target of 190 runs. 190 in 20 overs is a very big target, because Australia's bowling lineup is strong. The West Indies lost but they fought hard. They needed 36 runs in the last two overs. West Indies scored 25 runs in the 19th over. But in the last over Russel managed to score only 6 runs with 6 balls. Australia won the last over for Starc's experienced bowling. Otherwise, as usual, today's match would have been lost.
They started Women's T20 Challenge /WIPL back in 2018 with 2 teams and then added 1 more team. If you look at the last 2020 season they only played 4 games, included final 
, sounds like a joke to me. The way BCCI conducting business it does look like India lack enough players in domestic arena or they are just ignoring Women cricket. .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Women%27s_T20_Challenge
, sounds like a joke to me. The way BCCI conducting business it does look like India lack enough players in domestic arena or they are just ignoring Women cricket. . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Women%27s_T20_Challenge
The T20 challenge is not WIPL. It is just a handful of exhibition matches and are not played at franchise-level (unlike the case with WBBL). They can start the WIPL with a small number of teams, so that at least the top players get an opportunity to play at franchise level. Else, Australia and England will continue with their dominance in the women's game. Actually the BCCI don't need to spend any of their money. Whatever expenses are there will be covered by the broadcasters and the sponsors.
Could be but let's say if BCCI gives green light to 7-8 teams WIPL then it would require minimum 80-100 quality or okayish players. 40-50 players seems manageable to me because there are many state teams in domestic arena but if we are talking about big talent pool then things might get tricky very quickly.
I don't think that they need to start with 7-8 teams. I would prefer 4 teams, at least for the first 2-3 years. They can recruit 10-12 Indian players and 8-10 overseas players each for the franchises. That means that a total of 40-48 quality Indian players are needed. Given the talent pool in India, I guess that is very much achievable. For the 4 franchises, I would prefer these cities - Delhi, Bangalore, Mumbai and Kolkata. After 2-3 years, the league can be expanded to 6 teams, and finally to 8-10 teams.
, sounds like a joke to me. The way BCCI conducting business it does look like India lack enough players in domestic arena or they are just ignoring Women cricket. . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Women%27s_T20_Challenge
Looking at the performance of the West Indies in the current T20 format, it seems that they are back to their old form. If they can maintain such a great performance till the World Cup, they will also fight hard to win the World Cup title. In the last match against Australia, they scored 142 runs in just 14.5 overs. It is not an easy task to score 142 runs in just 14.5 overs against a strong bowling lineup like Australia.
Have to disagree. Australian bowling is quite ordinary nowadays. Two decades ago, they had the best pace attack in the world, with Glen McGrath, Brett Lee and Jason Gillespie destroying the opposition with seam movement and bounce. And they had the best spinner as well (Shane Warne). But the current bunch can't be compared to them. Mitchell Starc is too wayward and Josh Hazlewood lacks venom. At least when compared to the Kiwi pace attack (Jamieson/Boult/Southee/Ferguson/Milne/Wagner), Australians now look second class. Could be but let's say if BCCI gives green light to 7-8 teams WIPL then it would require minimum 80-100 quality or okayish players. 40-50 players seems manageable to me because there are many state teams in domestic arena but if we are talking about big talent pool then things might get tricky very quickly.
I don't think that they need to start with 7-8 teams. I would prefer 4 teams, at least for the first 2-3 years. They can recruit 10-12 Indian players and 8-10 overseas players each for the franchises. That means that a total of 40-48 quality Indian players are needed. Given the talent pool in India, I guess that is very much achievable. For the 4 franchises, I would prefer these cities - Delhi, Bangalore, Mumbai and Kolkata. After 2-3 years, the league can be expanded to 6 teams, and finally to 8-10 teams.
That i agree, although one reason could be lack of quality women players in the country. We do have state teams but it seems quality is not up to mark. After all, you do need fair amount of domestic talent pool to fill the squads and become self sufficient in some sense as far as revenue is concern. I'm hopeful that in next years or so we'll see some sort of positive updates in this regard.
I don't think that the lack of quality players is the reason. Last time, the women's domestic tournament involved a total of 38 teams and the quality was satisfactory (at least for the elite division). I have noticed a number of talented female players, who are not fortunate enough to be considered by the national selectors. But some of them have performed consistently well in the domestic circuit for many years now. Without the WIPL, these talented players will just vanish from the limelight after sometime, just like what happened to dozens like them in the previous decades. There needs to be a level between the national team and the domestic tournaments. WIPL would have filled that gap.
Looking at the performance of the West Indies in the current T20 format, it seems that they are back to their old form. If they can maintain such a great performance till the World Cup, they will also fight hard to win the World Cup title. In the last match against Australia, they scored 142 runs in just 14.5 overs. It is not an easy task to score 142 runs in just 14.5 overs against a strong bowling lineup like Australia.
Have to disagree. Australian bowling is quite ordinary nowadays. Two decades ago, they had the best pace attack in the world, with Glen McGrath, Brett Lee and Jason Gillespie destroying the opposition with seam movement and bounce. And they had the best spinner as well (Shane Warne). But the current bunch can't be compared to them. Mitchell Starc is too wayward and Josh Hazlewood lacks venom. At least when compared to the Kiwi pace attack (Jamieson/Boult/Southee/Ferguson/Milne/Wagner), Australians now look second class.
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West Indies will give all us surprise in T20 world cup. See the performance of this team in the T20 matches against Australia. West Indies have won last three T20 Matches against Australia which shows the form the current team is in. If they could perform a similar manner in the world cup, they could be one of the favorites for the cup.
West Indies looks to be in great form. One thing they need to look in to, is the team cohesion. And this is one department where they have consistently faced issues. They have some of the best players in cricket, but if the team bonding is not good then the star power is of no use. But I saw a lot of encouraging signs during their series against Australia. They played with a lot of cohesion, during each of the T20 matches. That makes West Indies, the favorites to win this year's world cup IMO.
Looking at the performance of the West Indies in the current T20 format, it seems that they are back to their old form. If they can maintain such a great performance till the World Cup, they will also fight hard to win the World Cup title. In the last match against Australia, they scored 142 runs in just 14.5 overs. It is not an easy task to score 142 runs in just 14.5 overs against a strong bowling lineup like Australia.
West Indies will give all us surprise in T20 world cup. See the performance of this team in the T20 matches against Australia. West Indies have won last three T20 Matches against Australia which shows the form the current team is in. If they could perform a similar manner in the world cup, they could be one of the favorites for the cup.
West Indies looks to be in great form. One thing they need to look in to, is the team cohesion. And this is one department where they have consistently faced issues. They have some of the best players in cricket, but if the team bonding is not good then the star power is of no use. But I saw a lot of encouraging signs during their series against Australia. They played with a lot of cohesion, during each of the T20 matches. That makes West Indies, the favorites to win this year's world cup IMO.
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The catch here is that West Indies is strongest when they play in the T20 format. Because their team is full of T20 specialists - Kieron Pollard, Andre Russell, Nicholas Pooran, Andre Fletcher, Chris Gayle and Shimron Hetmyer to name a few. It is always going to be a tough task to take on West Indies in this format. On the other hand, Australia is weakest while playing the T20 format. And to make matters worse, this time they were lacking the services of their T20 specialists. Three matches remain, but going with the current form I don't think that Australia will be able to make a comeback.
Australia can still bounce back and win matches and West Indies are not consistent with their performance even though they have some of the biggest players in the T20 format and we have seen that in the series against South Africa where they started with huge promises but in the end lost the match and the series draining off anyone who placed a bet on West Indies to win the series.The catch here is that West Indies is strongest when they play in the T20 format. Because their team is full of T20 specialists - Kieron Pollard, Andre Russell, Nicholas Pooran, Andre Fletcher, Chris Gayle and Shimron Hetmyer to name a few. It is always going to be a tough task to take on West Indies in this format. On the other hand, Australia is weakest while playing the T20 format. And to make matters worse, this time they were lacking the services of their T20 specialists. Three matches remain, but going with the current form I don't think that Australia will be able to make a comeback.
West Indies will give all us surprise in T20 world cup. See the performance of this team in the T20 matches against Australia. West Indies have won last three T20 Matches against Australia which shows the form the current team is in. If they could perform a similar manner in the world cup, they could be one of the favorites for the cup.
I don't think that the lack of quality players is the reason. Last time, the women's domestic tournament involved a total of 38 teams and the quality was satisfactory (at least for the elite division). I have noticed a number of talented female players, who are not fortunate enough to be considered by the national selectors.
I am not ready to hear that earlier excuse because you are literally telling that the selectors are corrupted which i highly doubt. Earlier we had discussion regarding that BCCI is looking to cash in the next big thing and if they compare the pay-scale they are bound to get it is not going to be easy. I am not aware of the television viewership numbers in sports but the reason BCCI is not entertaining is because of the revenue model they will get..I don't think that the post implies that the selectors are corrupt. Some amount of nepotism exists in selection, and that combined with regional bias and an oversupply of talent means that at least some of the talented players never manage to promote themselves from the domestic level to the national level. The WIPL, if implemented will bridge these two levels. National team can only accommodate 14-15 players, while 500 plus play in the domestic cricket. WIPL will represent an intermediate level, with a pool of 50-60 top domestic players.
I don't think that the lack of quality players is the reason. Last time, the women's domestic tournament involved a total of 38 teams and the quality was satisfactory (at least for the elite division). I have noticed a number of talented female players, who are not fortunate enough to be considered by the national selectors.
I am not ready to hear that earlier excuse because you are literally telling that the selectors are corrupted which i highly doubt. Earlier we had discussion regarding that BCCI is looking to cash in the next big thing and if they compare the pay-scale they are bound to get it is not going to be easy. I am not aware of the television viewership numbers in sports but the reason BCCI is not entertaining is because of the revenue model they will get.. ~
The catch here is that West Indies is strongest when they play in the T20 format. Because their team is full of T20 specialists - Kieron Pollard, Andre Russell, Nicholas Pooran, Andre Fletcher, Chris Gayle and Shimron Hetmyer to name a few. It is always going to be a tough task to take on West Indies in this format. On the other hand, Australia is weakest while playing the T20 format. And to make matters worse, this time they were lacking the services of their T20 specialists. Three matches remain, but going with the current form I don't think that Australia will be able to make a comeback.
Australia can still bounce back and win matches and West Indies are not consistent with their performance even though they have some of the biggest players in the T20 format and we have seen that in the series against South Africa where they started with huge promises but in the end lost the match and the series draining off anyone who placed a bet on West Indies to win the series. The catch here is that West Indies is strongest when they play in the T20 format. Because their team is full of T20 specialists - Kieron Pollard, Andre Russell, Nicholas Pooran, Andre Fletcher, Chris Gayle and Shimron Hetmyer to name a few. It is always going to be a tough task to take on West Indies in this format. On the other hand, Australia is weakest while playing the T20 format. And to make matters worse, this time they were lacking the services of their T20 specialists. Three matches remain, but going with the current form I don't think that Australia will be able to make a comeback.
That i agree, although one reason could be lack of quality women players in the country. We do have state teams but it seems quality is not up to mark. After all, you do need fair amount of domestic talent pool to fill the squads and become self sufficient in some sense as far as revenue is concern. I'm hopeful that in next years or so we'll see some sort of positive updates in this regard.
I don't think that the lack of quality players is the reason. Last time, the women's domestic tournament involved a total of 38 teams and the quality was satisfactory (at least for the elite division). I have noticed a number of talented female players, who are not fortunate enough to be considered by the national selectors. But some of them have performed consistently well in the domestic circuit for many years now. Without the WIPL, these talented players will just vanish from the limelight after sometime, just like what happened to dozens like them in the previous decades. There needs to be a level between the national team and the domestic tournaments. WIPL would have filled that gap.
Oh no, i was not implying that they're not as strong as other teams. In fact they are pretty good team and very competitive. Don't know about qualifier thingy but they were finalist in the last 50 over WC so that's count, right? Its just that their batting collapse sometime, which looks bad. I think they are going to do well if BCCI start WIPL.
Stop dreaming about the WIPL. Do you really think that a cash-minded administrative body such as the BCCI would approve the WIPL? The ECB and CA started their own leagues ages ago, and their budgets are like a small fraction of what the BCCI has. I think someone need to start a rebel league for the women, similar to the ICL started by Subhash Chandra in 2007. The BCCI approved IPL only due to the potential competition from ICL. Previously they had rejected suggestions to start a franchise T20 league.
Oh no, i was not implying that they're not as strong as other teams. In fact they are pretty good team and very competitive. Don't know about qualifier thingy but they were finalist in the last 50 over WC so that's count, right? Its just that their batting collapse sometime, which looks bad. I think they are going to do well if BCCI start WIPL.
Stop dreaming about the WIPL. Do you really think that a cash-minded administrative body such as the BCCI would approve the WIPL? The ECB and CA started their own leagues ages ago, and their budgets are like a small fraction of what the BCCI has. I think someone need to start a rebel league for the women, similar to the ICL started by Subhash Chandra in 2007. The BCCI approved IPL only due to the potential competition from ICL. Previously they had rejected suggestions to start a franchise T20 league.
They won a good game yesterday but they batted badly after first power play despite getting tremendous start from the openers especially Verma. As soon as openers got out Run rate went down drastically. This is actually becoming habit of Indian Women team, they always gets excellent start but fail to capitalize every single time.
Well.. that is good.. at least one team from the sub-continent is winning some matches in England. Indian women's team is not as strong as their men's team. If I am not wrong, they had to play the qualifier tournament last time to get a slot for the world cup. On top of that, the women's domestic cricket in India is in very bad state, due to the pandemic. If they still manage to win a few matches, then good for them. But I don't expect them to be competitive against professional sides such as England or Australia in the near term.
They won a good game yesterday but they batted badly after first power play despite getting tremendous start from the openers especially Verma. As soon as openers got out Run rate went down drastically. This is actually becoming habit of Indian Women team, they always gets excellent start but fail to capitalize every single time.
Well.. that is good.. at least one team from the sub-continent is winning some matches in England. Indian women's team is not as strong as their men's team. If I am not wrong, they had to play the qualifier tournament last time to get a slot for the world cup. On top of that, the women's domestic cricket in India is in very bad state, due to the pandemic. If they still manage to win a few matches, then good for them. But I don't expect them to be competitive against professional sides such as England or Australia in the near term.
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At least Women cricket is going okay. Today India won against England in exciting match.
It is not a simple victory, to win against England in England is a huge deal as they are strong performers and England won the first match and it was reduced due to the weather situation and winning the second T20 is a huge deal and India level the series and even though India lost the ODI series if they can win the T20 series it will be a huge deal.At least Women cricket is going okay. Today India won against England in exciting match.
^^ Sri Lanka vs England was boring series. Pakistan vs England 3rd ODI is going to be dead rubber as well (Again not looking at points). Recent trend is not looking good for bilateral series so really want Australia to bounce back in the next game, which we can expect from the Aussie. Their key players are missing but their bowling still good so may be there is some hope.
At least Women cricket is going okay. Today India won against England in exciting match.
At least Women cricket is going okay. Today India won against England in exciting match.
The COVID restrictions have made matters worse. Subcontinent teams are struggling to get adjusted to the conditions in England and that may be one of the reasons for the lop-sided nature of the matches. It was not just Sri Lanka and Pakistan. Even India struggled against the New Zealand pace battery during the WTC finals. In case of Pakistan, they could not organize any warmup matches and have to stay inside the bio-bubbles all the time. So it might have affected their performance. The England players on the other hand are playing county cricket.
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