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A T20 series between Namibia and Uganda is taking place at Windhoek (Namibia). The hosts whitewashed the visitors by 3-0. I am interested in this series, because unlike the case with many of the other associate nations, both these teams are comprised mostly of citizens belonging to these nations. Next is the ODI series scheduled between these two teams, comprised of two matches.

Three days to go for the first match in IPL 2021, which will be played between Mumbai Indians and the Royal Challengers Bangalore, at MA Chidambaram Stadium, Chepauk.  Grin
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^^^ If Moeen is so adamant about not wearing the SNJ 10000 logo, then he can be given the option of wearing the logo of other SNJ products, such as British Empire Premium Brown Sugar (SNJ conglomerate is one of the largest sugar producers in South India) or a logo of the hotels that are owned by the SNJ group (Hotel Anitha Towers and Hotel Nandini Palace). If Moeen still has a problem with these options, then his contract should be revised.
This shouldn't be a problem for him, after all he was part of the Royal Challengers Bangalore. Which is basically a Whisky brand (owned by Diageo group company)and RCB is founded and sponsored by Royal Challenge.
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^^^ At the time of the IPL auctions, did Moeen Ali communicated to the BCCI that it will not be possible for him to wear alcohol related logos? If he made that request, then I am OK with an exception being given to him. But if this is a last minute request, then I have to say that he is going overboard. SNJ is sponsoring CSK for many years now (since 2019 if I am not wrong). I would be disappointed if they are given a raw deal here, despite spending a lot of money in sponsorship through all these years.

BTW, there are Muslim players such as Imran Tahir and KM Asif in the CSK squad, who have been wearing this jersey for long time now.
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If Moeen is so adamant about not wearing the SNJ 10000 logo, then he can be given the option of wearing the logo of other SNJ products, such as British Empire Premium Brown Sugar (SNJ conglomerate is one of the largest sugar producers in South India) or a logo of the hotels that are owned by the SNJ group (Hotel Anitha Towers and Hotel Nandini Palace). If Moeen still has a problem with these options, then his contract should be revised.
I guess Moeen Ali will not have any problem to wear the jersey which is free from alcohol/tobacco related advertisements. Instead of SNJ's alcohol related thing, if management makes any other replacement which are still belongs to SNJ, I guess Moeen Ali will accept that. This must be matter of conflict of personal interests between players and managements, but unfortunately it came to limetight due to media hype.

Moreover, we must respect individuals opinion and beliefs; there cannot be any rule to overcome those things by contracts. There are player supporting rules and organization which will come into scene if these things lead to revise of Moeen's contract. Like how management has agreement with players in similar manner internal players are also having their own right protecting agreement with management.
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^^^ If Moeen is so adamant about not wearing the SNJ 10000 logo, then he can be given the option of wearing the logo of other SNJ products, such as British Empire Premium Brown Sugar (SNJ conglomerate is one of the largest sugar producers in South India) or a logo of the hotels that are owned by the SNJ group (Hotel Anitha Towers and Hotel Nandini Palace). If Moeen still has a problem with these options, then his contract should be revised.
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Moen Ali has been taken by Chennai Super Kings once after he got out from Royal Challengers Bangalore. He was auctioned for seven crore rupees. Now he have requested a good thing with the CSK authority and it has agreed to it. The CSK jersey had got SNJ 1000 logo, and he didn't want this to be on his jersey. He doesn't want to promote anything related to alcohol. The CSK authority have agreed and earlier similar thing was done by Hasim Amla. Good work from Moen Ali.
Why are they not promoting alcohol if they are paying the team to advertise them  Roll Eyes. Is this because of religious believes and even with that how come it is possible to skip where the contract is with the team so that everyone use them whenever they are in the ground. If everyone can pick and choose then it would be great  Grin.
How is the situation and things are getting worse everywhere and what is the situation with IPL as i saw an article about the situation getting worse in India as well. 
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Moen Ali has been taken by Chennai Super Kings once after he got out from Royal Challengers Bangalore. He was auctioned for seven crore rupees. Now he have requested a good thing with the CSK authority and it has agreed to it. The CSK jersey had got SNJ 1000 logo, and he didn't want this to be on his jersey. He doesn't want to promote anything related to alcohol. The CSK authority have agreed and earlier similar thing was done by Hasim Amla. Good work from Moen Ali.

Very unprofessional. A part of his salary comes from the sponsorship by SNJ 10000. As long as CSK is in a sponsorship deal with them, all the players are obliged to wear the logo. Those who have a problem with it should stay out of IPL. These guys need to treat IPL like a sports event and there is no need to mix religion here. If the BCCI allow this, then the next demand would be even more ridiculous.
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Moen Ali has been taken by Chennai Super Kings once after he got out from Royal Challengers Bangalore. He was auctioned for seven crore rupees. Now he have requested a good thing with the CSK authority and it has agreed to it. The CSK jersey had got SNJ 1000 logo, and he didn't want this to be on his jersey. He doesn't want to promote anything related to alcohol. The CSK authority have agreed and earlier similar thing was done by Hasim Amla. Good work from Moen Ali.
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You did the right thing, stay safe. Fingers crossed for Mumbai.
Another news coming out from Mumbai is that eight ground staff members tested positive for covid and with the situation getting worse you never know what will happen with the entire tournament. The recently concluded legends series was a disaster as the players tested positive after the series which includes Sachin Tendulkar, Badrinath and the Pathan brothers and we know these because they announced these in twitter and they might be others as well. Just curious to see how things will work in a situation like this.

Although it was unfortunate, the point to note here is that the players tested positive after the matches were finished. The organizer were able to complete the 2020–21 Road Safety World Series on time, because in between the tournament none of the players tested positive. Also, all of the matches were conducted in a single stadium in the same city (Shaheed Veer Narayan Singh International Cricket Stadium, Raipur), and obviously that helped.
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Influence of Mumbai cricket association, not Ambani.

Why Mumbai Cricket Association? I mean they don't have anything to influence BCCI. Politically speaking BCCI is quite powerful on it's own today. State Associations aren't that sovereign in our country as they look. Moreover, with Jay Shah in the management team, I don't think there would have been lot of questions regarding who would be heard. Even Ambani factors aren't quite a reason because he won't earn a lot from non-Mumbai Indian matches. So I think we need to settle for the fact without any perfect answer. But yes Pandemic is a great concern now for the whole team. When last IPL was played things were quite settled even in India and despite that the folks moved to Dubai this year the Covid seems to me on peak and yet we are hosting the IPL right at the Corona Capital. Governments and Authorities can be wierd sometimes.
They were always dominant force in the Indian cricket (Selections criteria, Money and Political power). In recent time they are declining in terms of cricket but politically they are still very much strong. Gujarat also ranked up in the last decade or so but politically they are behind Mumbai by miles. Jay Shah is good with the lobbying and got plenty of experience under his belt but he's kid when comparing with the likes of Sharad Pawar, he holds the all key there.



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Just curious to see how things will work in a situation like this.
With all the hurdles and the increasing case of corona virus means the BCCI will be forced to move the tournament elsewhere or will suffer the same fate as PSL and if that happens they have the money to move the tournament entirely to any other safe country and continue the matches within a month and i am not sure when PCB is planning to resume the PSL .
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You did the right thing, stay safe. Fingers crossed for Mumbai.
Another news coming out from Mumbai is that eight ground staff members tested positive for covid and with the situation getting worse you never know what will happen with the entire tournament. The recently concluded legends series was a disaster as the players tested positive after the series which includes Sachin Tendulkar, Badrinath and the Pathan brothers and we know these because they announced these in twitter and they might be others as well. Just curious to see how things will work in a situation like this.

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They ideally should do that but they wont. Mumbai has a VIP status when it comes to cricket and they are willing to risk a few deaths to not change the location. That's how things really are in the Indian sub-continent. I just hope it doesnt go through the same treatment as PSL and get cancelled. Hopefully they have strict rules and bubbles so that the possibility of infection among players remain very low and IPL doesnt turn into a joke like the neighboring countries league turned out to be.  

In case of PSL, it was Wahab Riaz, Darren Sammy and one of the franchise owners who breached the biosecure bubble. PCB was afraid to take any action, due to the larger-than-life stature of those who were involved. The same can happen with the IPL as well. I don't think that the BCCI will be having the courage to take solid action, in case some of the franchise owners like N Srinivasan or the star players such as Virat Kohli or Rohit Sharma breach the bio-secure bubble.
That is the worry and I hope it doesn't come to that. I mean, we have seen examples of what can potentially happen and how sad it could end for sponsors and organizers. So, I am optimistic that the tournament will happen successfully as it is a pretty important event for the cricketing world and the domestic cricket development of India but there's a doubt lingering because of the casual attitude that our stars have. That "
we'll see when it happens"
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I don't understand why BCCI is hell bent to host so many fixtures in the Mumbai? Hyderabad and Himachal seems pretty okay but no game for them, although Hyderabad did some drama over their revenue reporting which cost them hosting rights but in recent time they look better bet in comparison to Mumbai.
At least they are bent towards Mumbai. I was expecting the whole IPL to be played at Narendra Modi Stadium, Ahmedabad.  Grin Grin

Jokes Apart I think they want to minimize travel as much as possible. Give maximum matches to a stadium at least the maximum it can host considering it's pitch and all. Moreover venues this time isn't going to be a big concern for BCCI as there are no revenues involved for them. Earlier adding more stadiums meant opening up your Revenues to a new city altogether. So they are keeping it as simple as possible that's all. Extra stadiums is just extra cost with no substantial revenue.
lol but In all seriousness i think we need more stadium like Motera. It can host 2 matches back 2 back without any problem. Gate revenue is out of the equation this time so stadium doesn't matter. If travelling was concern then they should have opt for the Hyderabad instead of Mumbai from the start.

For pride reasons of Ambani family I guess? Huh
Influence of Mumbai cricket association, not Ambani.

Why Mumbai Cricket Association? I mean they don't have anything to influence BCCI. Politically speaking BCCI is quite powerful on it's own today. State Associations aren't that sovereign in our country as they look. Moreover, with Jay Shah in the management team, I don't think there would have been lot of questions regarding who would be heard. Even Ambani factors aren't quite a reason because he won't earn a lot from non-Mumbai Indian matches. So I think we need to settle for the fact without any perfect answer. But yes Pandemic is a great concern now for the whole team. When last IPL was played things were quite settled even in India and despite that the folks moved to Dubai this year the Covid seems to me on peak and yet we are hosting the IPL right at the Corona Capital. Governments and Authorities can be wierd sometimes.
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In case of PSL, it was Wahab Riaz, Darren Sammy and one of the franchise owners who breached the biosecure bubble. PCB was afraid to take any action, due to the larger-than-life stature of those who were involved. The same can happen with the IPL as well. I don't think that the BCCI will be having the courage to take solid action, in case some of the franchise owners like N Srinivasan or the star players such as Virat Kohli or Rohit Sharma breach the bio-secure bubble.
If two players are responsible for the entire event to extend then they will take actions against these players as they are loosing money, PCB will be loosing broadcasting profit and the teams will be loosing money as well, may be the precautions they took was the reason for the players getting positive. In the case with the IPL they need to be extra cautious while conducting the tournament if not this years World cup will be in jeopardy.
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They ideally should do that but they wont. Mumbai has a VIP status when it comes to cricket and they are willing to risk a few deaths to not change the location. That's how things really are in the Indian sub-continent. I just hope it doesnt go through the same treatment as PSL and get cancelled. Hopefully they have strict rules and bubbles so that the possibility of infection among players remain very low and IPL doesnt turn into a joke like the neighboring countries league turned out to be. 

In case of PSL, it was Wahab Riaz, Darren Sammy and one of the franchise owners who breached the biosecure bubble. PCB was afraid to take any action, due to the larger-than-life stature of those who were involved. The same can happen with the IPL as well. I don't think that the BCCI will be having the courage to take solid action, in case some of the franchise owners like N Srinivasan or the star players such as Virat Kohli or Rohit Sharma breach the bio-secure bubble.
If the breach happens then BCCI should punish those who were involved but, it has not happened yet. In a 90 day tournament there is a high chance of breach as players will get frustrated with time but the only thing that will keep them motivated to not breach the bio bubble is the money I guess.
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They ideally should do that but they wont. Mumbai has a VIP status when it comes to cricket and they are willing to risk a few deaths to not change the location. That's how things really are in the Indian sub-continent. I just hope it doesnt go through the same treatment as PSL and get cancelled. Hopefully they have strict rules and bubbles so that the possibility of infection among players remain very low and IPL doesnt turn into a joke like the neighboring countries league turned out to be. 

In case of PSL, it was Wahab Riaz, Darren Sammy and one of the franchise owners who breached the biosecure bubble. PCB was afraid to take any action, due to the larger-than-life stature of those who were involved. The same can happen with the IPL as well. I don't think that the BCCI will be having the courage to take solid action, in case some of the franchise owners like N Srinivasan or the star players such as Virat Kohli or Rohit Sharma breach the bio-secure bubble.
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The IPL was held even in the most difficult moment of the coronavirus the previous season, when there was no vaccine. The infection rate is now somewhat lower than in previous years and everyone is quite health conscious. Hopefully all the matches of IPL will be held on time.
The big difference here was the fact that UAE had far lower cases when compared to India back in 2020 and they followed strict bio-bubble security measures which ultimately helped the tournament progress smoothly.

BCCI should have shifted the matches to Hyderabad from Mumbai immediately due to the difference in cases. Absolute fools.
They ideally should do that but they wont. Mumbai has a VIP status when it comes to cricket and they are willing to risk a few deaths to not change the location. That's how things really are in the Indian sub-continent. I just hope it doesnt go through the same treatment as PSL and get cancelled. Hopefully they have strict rules and bubbles so that the possibility of infection among players remain very low and IPL doesnt turn into a joke like the neighboring countries league turned out to be. 
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The IPL was held even in the most difficult moment of the coronavirus the previous season, when there was no vaccine. The infection rate is now somewhat lower than in previous years and everyone is quite health conscious. Hopefully all the matches of IPL will be held on time.
The big difference here was the fact that UAE had far lower cases when compared to India back in 2020 and they followed strict bio-bubble security measures which ultimately helped the tournament progress smoothly.

BCCI should have shifted the matches to Hyderabad from Mumbai immediately due to the difference in cases. Absolute fools.
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I do not see any possibility of IPL being canceled. The IPL will be held even if the coronavirus grows. Maybe some rules and obligations may increase, but the IPL will not be abandoned. The IPL was held even in the most difficult moment of the coronavirus the previous season, when there was no vaccine. The infection rate is now somewhat lower than in previous years and everyone is quite health conscious. Hopefully all the matches of IPL will be held on time.

There is only a remote possibility of the IPL getting cancelled in case the protocols are strictly followed. But in case, if someone makes a breach in the biosecure bubbles and if those inside it gets infected, then things can get complicated. And this is one of the issues in conducting such a big tournament in multiple cities, especially in the crowded Indian metros. The BCCI needs to make sure that players and non-playing staff strictly adheres to the safety protocols. A single mistake may put the entire tournament in jeopardy.
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