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I did not mean that Natarajan has fitness problems. My point is that there are many better players in the Indian squad than Natarajan. India has a lot of talented players for ODI matches. And India needs some experienced players for the Tests. Natarajan plays well but is not very experienced.

Got it, with experience and exposure in playing in different countries will help their grow as a player and with his accuracy Natarajan is a prospect for India.

I am disappointed with the match today as India lost the match because of the bad fielding and the captaincy of Kohli. The delay in DRS decision in the 11th over cost the match as Kohli did not take the third umpire decision even though it was the wicket of Wade who was in tremendous touch and if he had gone for the review in time that was plumb in front of the wicket and the dropped catches which is continuing every match.

Although India has fielded a lot of bad. But I think India lost the match because their batsmen could not run. Or it can be said that the Australian bowlers have played well. No Indian batsman was successful except Virat Kohli. There are many qualityful and talented batsmen in the India squad. The 187 run target was not too difficult for India.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 08, 2020, 11:21:53 PM

He did okay captaincy in last WC though but India always reach in semis no matter who captaining the Indian side so i agree in limited over cricket he mess things up regularly. Only Rohit Sharma has capability of replacing him in the shorter format, Dhawan is big no as he can't even lead team in the franchise level.

I also believe that Rohit Sharma can be a good replacement. But then, Virat has captained the Indian team for such a long time. Critics may argue that it can have a negative impact on team bonding and morale (although Rohit has been a regular member of the squad for many years). And then there is always the concern that Rohit and Virat may form their own closed groups, just like the case we had when Dhoni was playing for India.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 08, 2020, 10:12:08 PM

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I am disappointed with the match today as India lost the match because of the bad fielding and the captaincy of Kohli. The delay in DRS decision in the 11th over cost the match as Kohli did not take the third umpire decision even though it was the wicket of Wade who was in tremendous touch and if he had gone for the review in time that was plumb in front of the wicket and the dropped catches which is continuing every match.

Recently, I am not getting very impressed with Kohli's captaincy. I think he should concentrate on the test matches and someone else (such as Rohit Sharma or Shikhar Dhawan) should captain the side in the shorter format. Kohli's decision making ability seems to be getting worse with every passing year. And his selection policy is also getting a lot of flak.

He did okay captaincy in last WC though but India always reach in semis no matter who captaining the Indian side so i agree in limited over cricket he mess things up regularly. Only Rohit Sharma has capability of replacing him in the shorter format, Dhawan is big no as he can't even lead team in the franchise level.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 08, 2020, 10:12:08 PM

Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on December 08, 2020, 07:00:20 PM

I am disappointed with the match today as India lost the match because of the bad fielding and the captaincy of Kohli. The delay in DRS decision in the 11th over cost the match as Kohli did not take the third umpire decision even though it was the wicket of Wade who was in tremendous touch and if he had gone for the review in time that was plumb in front of the wicket and the dropped catches which is continuing every match.

Recently, I am not getting very impressed with Kohli's captaincy. I think he should concentrate on the test matches and someone else (such as Rohit Sharma or Shikhar Dhawan) should captain the side in the shorter format. Kohli's decision making ability seems to be getting worse with every passing year. And his selection policy is also getting a lot of flak.

I was never happy with Kohli's captaincy. If you are a good batsmen does not mean you are a good captain. What I see is only aggression and immature decisions. I do not have any idea how shikhar dhawan will perform as a captain but I am sure Rohit Sharma will be the right person for T20 and ODIs.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on December 08, 2020, 07:00:20 PM

I am disappointed with the match today as India lost the match because of the bad fielding and the captaincy of Kohli. The delay in DRS decision in the 11th over cost the match as Kohli did not take the third umpire decision even though it was the wicket of Wade who was in tremendous touch and if he had gone for the review in time that was plumb in front of the wicket and the dropped catches which is continuing every match.

Recently, I am not getting very impressed with Kohli's captaincy. I think he should concentrate on the test matches and someone else (such as Rohit Sharma or Shikhar Dhawan) should captain the side in the shorter format. Kohli's decision making ability seems to be getting worse with every passing year. And his selection policy is also getting a lot of flak.

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Quote from: Iranus on December 08, 2020, 08:59:26 AM

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I did not mean that Natarajan has fitness problems. My point is that there are many better players in the Indian squad than Natarajan. India has a lot of talented players for ODI matches. And India needs some experienced players for the Tests. Natarajan plays well but is not very experienced.

Got it, with experience and exposure in playing in different countries will help their grow as a player and with his accuracy Natarajan is a prospect for India.

I am disappointed with the match today as India lost the match because of the bad fielding and the captaincy of Kohli. The delay in DRS decision in the 11th over cost the match as Kohli did not take the third umpire decision even though it was the wicket of Wade who was in tremendous touch and if he had gone for the review in time that was plumb in front of the wicket and the dropped catches which is continuing every match.

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India looked like they were cruising to victory with only 2 wickets down at 94 with 8 overs to go but them two quick wickets in the 13th over really helped get Australia back on track and the momentum which in the end saw them get the victory. So it was just like the ODI series but the opposite way around. I think this now sets us all up for a great test series, I know its a different format but both teams now have had success against each other so hopefully now we see a hard fought test series which I still think Australia will win but not sure if it will be a easy victory for Australia as some have suggested.

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I don't think India will win a Test match against Australia. India did not perform as well as expected in the ODIs. They played great in T20 series. I think they played IPL recently so they have been able to do so excellent performance in T20 series. But Test matches are completely different from ODI and T20. At the Australian home ground, it is very difficult to win a Test match against Australia.

I think they might win 1 or 2 test matches at the very least since Kohli will be playing in the first test while Sharma and Pujara will be back in the squad. Also, the winning momentum is equally distributed between both teams currently.

Australia also has potential weaknesses which India will try to exploit. I am predicting a 2-2 draw since both teams are coming in hot.

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I think Saini is suitable for T20 match. But the Indian team for Odi or Test matches has more skilled and experienced players than Saini. Saini will have to work harder to play an ODI match for the Indian team. I think if he gets close to a good and experienced coach. He can improve his bowling. The Indian team management should build Saini properly.

Agreed. Temperament is needed for the longer format and Saini lacks that. On the other hand, I have a feeling that Natarajan is suitable for both the shorter format, as well as the longer format. Anyway, it is nice to see so much competition for the slot of pace-bowlers in the Indian team. Apart from Natarajan, Saini and Siraj, we have a bunch of young pacers waiting for their opportunity, including Nagarkoti, Tyagi, Shivam Mavi.etc.

Natrajan seems to be suitable for all kinds of cricket. A talented young player. The Indian Cricket Board should take proper care of Natarajan. Otherwise, this talent will be lost. Indian team have a lot of young players now. If someone is injured or off form, there are many talented players to replace him. So, whoever plays badly or stays off form will lose his place in the India team.

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Quote from: onecall123 on December 08, 2020, 09:27:27 AM

Australia won by 12 runs in their 3rd T20I. Somehow India prevent their whitewashed in ODI series likewise Australia prevent from being whitewashed. T20I series an action replay of ODI series with both teams. Anyway, first T20I lose this year for India.

Both the series One day and T20 ended in 2-1, first in the favor of Australia and the later one in favor of India. This means that we will have a thrill test series between the two countries and i am sure this will be the best most awaiting test series for 2020.

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ODI series went to Australia while T20 series went to India. Superb competition. The decider is the long test series between both these teams which will start soon.

This test acts not only as a decider, but it will help both teams gain valuable points in the Test Championship rankings.

This is an amazing opportunity for players like Gill, Shaw, Mayank etc to prove themselves. It's good to see Siraj playing despite his tragic loss. I hope he performs well.

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Quote from: onecall123 on December 08, 2020, 09:27:27 AM

Australia won by 12 runs in their 3rd T20I. Somehow India prevent their whitewashed in ODI series likewise Australia prevent from being whitewashed. T20I series an action replay of ODI series with both teams. Anyway, first T20I lose this year for India.

I was expecting 3-0 or at least a 2-1 series win for Australia. But India played really well to win the series. The last match defeat doesn't bother me much, as it was more like a consolation win for the Aussies. The way Hardik Pandya, Jadeja and Natarajan played during the series, gives a lot of hope for the Indian T20 side ahead of the world cup in 2021.

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Quote from: onecall123 on December 08, 2020, 09:27:27 AM

Australia won by 12 runs in their 3rd T20I. Somehow India prevent their whitewashed in ODI series likewise Australia prevent from being whitewashed. T20I series an action replay of ODI series with both teams. Anyway, first T20I lose this year for India.

India won the series and probably you meant to say OZ losing the series. The match was exciting as even in the end Thakur quick innings just boosted up an outside chance for India but were little short in the end. If Hardik could have managed to remain not out till end, India could have won the game and rightly he was also awarded player of the series with his sensational batting display in T20.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on December 08, 2020, 08:57:52 AM

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Shreyas and Samson need impressive IPL season next year 2021. If they want to get in the T-20 WC squad, otherwise there is no chance for them. Surya Kumar Yadav might be good contender if he clicks in IPL one more time.

Both Shreyas Iyer and Sanju Samson have the talents but failed to deliver when given the opportunity but they just need one good innings to change their fortunes and hopefully they will do so in the next tournament.

Don't know how many International T-20 series left for India in the next 6-7 months and i have no idea if India and England are playing any T-20 series (England upcoming tour to India). T-20 WC coming soon and 2 months already booked for IPL.

Time is running out for them, although Sanju need more games as he's still very young in international arena (only played 7 games). Guess he needs longer rope and some backing in the squad similar to Pandaya, Pant and KL Rahul.

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Quote from: onecall123 on December 08, 2020, 09:27:27 AM

Australia won by 12 runs in their 3rd T20I. Somehow India prevent their whitewashed in ODI series likewise Australia prevent from being whitewashed. T20I series an action replay of ODI series with both teams. Anyway, first T20I lose this year for India.

I never thought Australia would lose the T20 series. Australia's performance in the T20 series was very poor. Although Australia won today's match. However, I would say that even today, Australia did not perform as expected. I expected them to score more than 200 runs. Swepson bowled great today. Had Swepson not performed well today, Australia would have lost today's match as well.

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Australia won by 12 runs in their 3rd T20I. Somehow India prevent their whitewashed in ODI series likewise Australia prevent from being whitewashed. T20I series an action replay of ODI series with both teams. Anyway, first T20I lose this year for India.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 08, 2020, 08:20:11 AM

And from what we have seen, good performances in the IPL doesn't necessary translates to big scores in the international scene. This holds true for Samson, who has repeated failures to his name.

Certainly they are different, different in venue different in everything but still it should not be much for Samson because he is not like lord Tewatia. Sanju Samson is a genuine batsman and he had proven that a lot of times. Sadly he has always been flopped in international matches although he played 7 matches so far.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on December 07, 2020, 05:53:12 PM

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I think Natarajan is now fit to play T20 and ODI matches for the Indian national team. Now he is in good form. The Indian coach should now collaborate to further develop Natarajan’s talent and skill. Otherwise, Natarajan will not be able to service the India team for a long time. He will be lost in the crowd of other players. We have seen before that many good talented players are lost due to lack of perfect direction.

To play IPL for a month and now playing in Australia and performing you think Natarajan has fitness issues Tongue

. The talents that did not fulfill is because they did not change with the demands of international cricket and you need to evolve as a cricketer because the opposition team is always learning your bowling skills and until you evolve and change you will fade out.

I did not mean that Natarajan has fitness problems. My point is that there are many better players in the Indian squad than Natarajan. India has a lot of talented players for ODI matches. And India needs some experienced players for the Tests. Natarajan plays well but is not very experienced.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 08, 2020, 07:07:59 AM

Shreyas and Samson need impressive IPL season next year 2021. If they want to get in the T-20 WC squad, otherwise there is no chance for them. Surya Kumar Yadav might be good contender if he clicks in IPL one more time.

Both Shreyas Iyer and Sanju Samson have the talents but failed to deliver when given the opportunity but they just need one good innings to change their fortunes and hopefully they will do so in the next tournament.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 08, 2020, 08:20:11 AM

The Australian spinners really bowled well, which is surprising considering the fact that Indian batsmen are being regarded as good players of spin bowling. Both Zampa and Swepson handled the pressure well.

When you have a huge target to chase the spinners will be always a challenge especially Zampa and Swepson who could bowl with different grips and they are T20 specialist.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 08, 2020, 07:07:59 AM

Kudos to Aussie bowlers. They handled pressure really well, its not easy for bowlers when you are bowling against 2 gun batsmen at the death overs. Big plus for Australia is their 2 wrist spinners they are complimenting each others quite convincingly during the middle overs.

Shreyas and Samson need impressive IPL season next year 2021. If they want to get in the T-20 WC squad, otherwise there is no chance for them. Surya Kumar Yadav might be good contender if he clicks in IPL one more time.

The Australian spinners really bowled well, which is surprising considering the fact that Indian batsmen are being regarded as good players of spin bowling. Both Zampa and Swepson handled the pressure well. And from what we have seen, good performances in the IPL doesn't necessary translates to big scores in the international scene. This holds true for Samson, who has repeated failures to his name.

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