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Today starts the first T20 match between New Zealand and Bangladesh. I hope we see a more competitive T20 series then the ODI series which New Zealand won easily. The good thing with T20 cricket is that is some what more even and even though Bangladesh had a poor ODI series they can bounce back in this series. I still think New Zealand will win the series but hopefully its more evenly matched between the two teams.
I find it hard to see a competitive match between Bangladesh and New Zealand until New Zealand give opportunity to the young players and rest the established players. It is not an easy task for top teams to defeat New Zealand in their ground and Bangladesh is not having success outside the subcontinent and if the pitch is not helping their spinners they usually struggle badly.
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Today starts the first T20 match between New Zealand and Bangladesh. I hope we see a more competitive T20 series then the ODI series which New Zealand won easily. The good thing with T20 cricket is that is some what more even and even though Bangladesh had a poor ODI series they can bounce back in this series. I still think New Zealand will win the series but hopefully its more evenly matched between the two teams.
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^^^ Shreyas Iyer is neither a very senior member of the team nor he is one of Kohli's favorites. So there is no guaranteed slot for him in the playing XI. If he is fit enough to play in the IPL, then he need to do that. It can have a huge financial impact on him as well. His contract with the Delhi Capitals is worth $980,000 per year and if he is unable to play then he need to forfeit all this amount (which I really doubt he can afford).

Yes, you are right he does not fall under the good books of Kohli but does that matter he still got selected for the national team. He will not be playing this series because of his injury. It is a serious injury and as per the news on ESPNcricinfo, he will be missing IPL 2021. This means he will have to forego the amount that he was earning from IPL. But as he is part of the BCCI C team he still will get paid this year a good amount. Till last year he was getting paid INR 1CR annually which is 10 million USD. You can find out pay details here

LOL..  it is not 10 million USD, but 10 million INR, which translates to $133,333. This is roughly one-eighth of what he receive for playing in the IPL for less than two months. Also, the peak period for a cricketer lasts only for 4-5 years and he need to earn as much as possible during this period. If he misses the entire season of the IPL, then it will be a big financial blow for him. Hopefully he'll be declared fit within the next few weeks.
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^^^ Shreyas Iyer is neither a very senior member of the team nor he is one of Kohli's favorites. So there is no guaranteed slot for him in the playing XI. If he is fit enough to play in the IPL, then he need to do that. It can have a huge financial impact on him as well. His contract with the Delhi Capitals is worth $980,000 per year and if he is unable to play then he need to forfeit all this amount (which I really doubt he can afford).

Yes, you are right he does not fall under the good books of Kohli but does that matter he still got selected for the national team. He will not be playing this series because of his injury. It is a serious injury and as per the news on ESPNcricinfo, he will be missing IPL 2021. This means he will have to forego the amount that he was earning from IPL. But as he is part of the BCCI C team he still will get paid this year a good amount. Till last year he was getting paid INR 1CR annually which is 10 million USD. You can find out pay details here
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^^^ Shreyas Iyer is neither a very senior member of the team nor he is one of Kohli's favorites. So there is no guaranteed slot for him in the playing XI. If he is fit enough to play in the IPL, then he need to do that. It can have a huge financial impact on him as well. His contract with the Delhi Capitals is worth $980,000 per year and if he is unable to play then he need to forfeit all this amount (which I really doubt he can afford).
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Oh boy entire IPL? Not looking good, recently Lancashire also signed him for their upcoming ODI domestic season so would be good if he recover soon, he need practice games for England tour as well. Hope for the best.

I think it will be better for him to skip the IPL for this season, even if he is declared fit for the last round of matches. Right now Shreyas need to concentrate on his role with the national team. His target should be to replace Virat Kohli as the Indian captain after 3-4 years. Among the younger players in the Indian team, I believe that Shreays is the person who is most suitable for this job. So my opinion is that he should give a lower priority to IPL right now.

@bryant.coleman if he’s declared fit then he’ll have to play in IPL and perform in it, otherwise he’ll lose out on a spot for the playing 11 in the upcoming T20 World Cup. Also I feel that Pant could be a contender too for captaining the team, as he’s full of energy and has a stylish personality which I feel will help him communicate effectively with the team.
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Oh boy entire IPL? Not looking good, recently Lancashire also signed him for their upcoming ODI domestic season so would be good if he recover soon, he need practice games for England tour as well. Hope for the best.

I think it will be better for him to skip the IPL for this season, even if he is declared fit for the last round of matches. Right now Shreyas need to concentrate on his role with the national team. His target should be to replace Virat Kohli as the Indian captain after 3-4 years. Among the younger players in the Indian team, I believe that Shreays is the person who is most suitable for this job. So my opinion is that he should give a lower priority to IPL right now.
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Huge blow to DC sadly. Hope he recovers properly soon. This could probably affect their chances of winning IPL 2021 in my opinion.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.timesofindia.com/sports/cricket/england-in-india/shreyas-iyer-out-of-england-odis-to-miss-entire-ipl-too/amp_articleshow/81670858.cms

Iyer took over the mantle from Gambhir and did a fantastic job which is why his presence as the captain will be missed. Am expecting Ashwin or Smith to lead the team in his absence.
Oh boy entire IPL? Not looking good, recently Lancashire also signed him for their upcoming ODI domestic season so would be good if he recover soon, he need practice games for England tour as well. Hope for the best.
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What makes those 3 cricketing nations more deserving than Zimbabwe? They all looks same to me as far as performance goes, Zim arguably comes at top when comparing them.

And again its not BCCI job to entertain every associate members. 

They may not deserve more. But they don't deserve less. Anyway, this argument has nothing to do with the BCCI. Test status is decided by the ICC and the BCCI has not much say on such decisions. The issue props up because Zimbabwe receives $94 million for the 8-year cycle, but the smaller teams receive less than $1 million for this duration. I don't think that there is anything that could justify such a difference in funding between various countries. If Zimbabwe was a high-income generating country for the ICC, then it could have been justified.
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Huge blow to DC sadly. Hope he recovers properly soon. This could probably affect their chances of winning IPL 2021 in my opinion.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.timesofindia.com/sports/cricket/england-in-india/shreyas-iyer-out-of-england-odis-to-miss-entire-ipl-too/amp_articleshow/81670858.cms

Iyer took over the mantle from Gambhir and did a fantastic job which is why his presence as the captain will be missed. Am expecting Ashwin or Smith to lead the team in his absence.
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If every board started thinking like that then there would be no international cricket. Only BIG 3 and couple of more nations would play dandiya with each other every now and then.

Having said that i am in favor of quadrilateral and trilateral series instead of bilateral. One sided or not, doesn't matter as long as its helping with the scheduling.

But why Zimbabwe, when there are more deserving sides out there? Why India and the other big 3 nations need to play against Zimbabwe, when they never give that opportunity to the smaller teams. If the BCCI can organize a tour of 3 T20Is and 3 ODIs against Zimbabwe, then why can't they give just one game to Nepal, Kenya or Papua New Guinea? Even that one game would be life changer for these countries.

The last time India has played against Kenya was in 2004. And India have never played against Nepal or PNG. On the other hand, India and Zimbabwe have played against each other in ODI a total of 63 times.
What makes those 3 cricketing nations more deserving than Zimbabwe? They all looks same to me as far as performance goes, Zim arguably comes at top when comparing them.

And again its not BCCI job to entertain every associate members. 
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If every board started thinking like that then there would be no international cricket. Only BIG 3 and couple of more nations would play dandiya with each other every now and then.

Having said that i am in favor of quadrilateral and trilateral series instead of bilateral. One sided or not, doesn't matter as long as its helping with the scheduling.

But why Zimbabwe, when there are more deserving sides out there? Why India and the other big 3 nations need to play against Zimbabwe, when they never give that opportunity to the smaller teams. If the BCCI can organize a tour of 3 T20Is and 3 ODIs against Zimbabwe, then why can't they give just one game to Nepal, Kenya or Papua New Guinea? Even that one game would be life changer for these countries.

The last time India has played against Kenya was in 2004. And India have never played against Nepal or PNG. On the other hand, India and Zimbabwe have played against each other in ODI a total of 63 times.
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BCCI can't entertain every Test playing nation and every associate member. Indian team schedule is already jam packed in every calendar year, they can't play with everyone. All they can do is support some boards, which they are already doing.

Only possible solution i can find is, organize 16-20 teams T-20 World cup.

There is no point in organizing bilateral series against countries such as Zimbabwe. I guess it has more to do with politics rather than cricket. The BCCI needs some votes in various ICC elections and that is the reason why they are giving a few lollipops to teams such as Zimbabwe. But I really don't understand what the Indian team will gain from such one-sided matches. A few million USD in revenue will be generated inside Zimbabwe, and most of it will be stolen by the corrupt administrators.
If every board started thinking like that then there would be no international cricket. Only BIG 3 and couple of more nations would play dandiya with each other every now and then.

Having said that i am in favor of quadrilateral and trilateral series instead of bilateral. One sided or not, doesn't matter as long as its helping with the scheduling.
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BCCI can't entertain every Test playing nation and every associate member. Indian team schedule is already jam packed in every calendar year, they can't play with everyone. All they can do is support some boards, which they are already doing.

Only possible solution i can find is, organize 16-20 teams T-20 World cup.

There is no point in organizing bilateral series against countries such as Zimbabwe. I guess it has more to do with politics rather than cricket. The BCCI needs some votes in various ICC elections and that is the reason why they are giving a few lollipops to teams such as Zimbabwe. But I really don't understand what the Indian team will gain from such one-sided matches. A few million USD in revenue will be generated inside Zimbabwe, and most of it will be stolen by the corrupt administrators.
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I doubt that because financially it would be really bad for countries like Afg, Ban, SL, Zim. When Indian team tour someone they also bring big fat checks for the host nations so all these extra tours are part of the eco system. But yeah 2-3 big players should rest, especially Bumrah and Kohli and i'm sure they will.

Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe receive annual payments from the ICC ranging from $12 million to $15 million. Afghanistan was promoted to the test status relatively recently, so they receive a smaller payment. From these numbers, the financial situation looks very comfortable for these cricket boards. It is the smaller cricket boards (Netherlands, Nepal, Scotland, Kenya.etc) which are facing financial crunch, because they receive very small payments from the ICC.
BCCI can't entertain every Test playing nation and every associate member. Indian team schedule is already jam packed in every calendar year, they can't play with everyone. All they can do is support some boards, which they are already doing.

Only possible solution i can find is, organize 16-20 teams T-20 World cup.
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I doubt that because financially it would be really bad for countries like Afg, Ban, SL, Zim. When Indian team tour someone they also bring big fat checks for the host nations so all these extra tours are part of the eco system. But yeah 2-3 big players should rest, especially Bumrah and Kohli and i'm sure they will.

Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe receive annual payments from the ICC ranging from $12 million to $15 million. Afghanistan was promoted to the test status relatively recently, so they receive a smaller payment. From these numbers, the financial situation looks very comfortable for these cricket boards. It is the smaller cricket boards (Netherlands, Nepal, Scotland, Kenya.etc) which are facing financial crunch, because they receive very small payments from the ICC.
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Why do they need permission from the ICC? As far as I know, retired players don't need any NOC from their own respective cricket board or from the ICC. They are free to play wherever they want. And in case the ICC is afraid that these events will generate good revenue and it will in turn affect their own tournaments, then they should STFU. I have never seen a more incompetent sports body other than the ICC. They are composed of a bunch of greedy businessmen with no love for the game and during the last two decades they have done a lot of damage to the globalization of cricket. Fuck the ICC.
I was asking whether the ICC would give permission if they want to see tournaments with legends and other ICC cricket nations who are not getting opportunity to play top class cricket. ICC or any sports body will be looking to make money and i have no complaints about that if they are taking the sport and making it better.

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It was just an idea thrown for fun and ICC will not be allowing any country to match up against retired players, you might watch them  if they put together a fun warm up match or for charity as the players are retired for a reason  Tongue.
There can be many reasons for retirement, if you are not performing in optimum situation and there are other team members waiting in the ranks and yet they can still play much better cricket than players outside the big teams in cricket. Too much cricket also kills the fun, once in a while seeing these tournaments is fine but not all the time.
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Same story every year, Indian team is cash cow for BCCI and other boards so their schedule is heavily packed no matter what. I think we're are going to see rotation policy soon for all 3 format. Majority of premiere player might get fair amount of rest during SL/Zim and Asia cup if it happens. 

Ideally India should not be playing against Zimbabwe, as the latter doesn't even have a stable team now. But since the tour is finalized, I would like the BCCI to send a young team led by Shreyas Iyer. The top players (Kohli, Rohit, Bumrah.etc) should be limited to matches against Big 3 plus New Zealand. For the remaining tours, they can have a rotational policy for the top players and younger players can fill some of the slots.
I doubt that because financially it would be really bad for countries like Afg, Ban, SL, Zim. When Indian team tour someone they also bring big fat checks for the host nations so all these extra tours are part of the eco system. But yeah 2-3 big players should rest, especially Bumrah and Kohli and i'm sure they will.




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Yuvi, Pathan, Sehwag and Sachin were hitting the ball well along with the rest of the players as well and they can be competitive and there is no doubt regarding that. Not sure whether these retired players kept of practicing even after retirement but as long as you have your reflexes and eyesight they will play brilliant knocks if the bowling lineup is weak.

That's what I was trying to say that these big hitters can still play better than our young batsmen (I'm not against any player but it's just my opinion) and we only need our bowlers to be with them and we can still conquer the rest. As you said, I also know that it's just for fun and I'm also revealing some "fun facts" and know that it's almost impossible for me to see them playing on the ground with young players again.
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Yuvi, Pathan, Sehwag and Sachin were hitting the ball well along with the rest of the players as well and they can be competitive and there is no doubt regarding that. Not sure whether these retired players kept of practicing even after retirement but as long as you have your reflexes and eyesight they will play brilliant knocks if the bowling lineup is weak.

I am not sure about Sachin Tendulkar and Virender Sehwag, but the other two (Irfan Pathan and Yuvraj Singh) were playing regular cricket and they were even part of various franchise T20 leagues. Irfan Pathan was a part of the Kandy Tuskers squad for the Lanka Premier League 2020. Yuvraj was involved in multiple franchise T20 leagues. He was a part of the Toronto Nationals squad, and then he represented the Maratha Arabians during Abu Dhabi T10 in 2019.

 
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