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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on December 08, 2020, 06:50:27 AM

Glad that Australia could avoid the white wash in the T20 series. India needs 23 runs from the last 4 balls and it is an impossible target.
The lower order can throw their bat as they hit a six again and they need to score 3 more sixes to win the match, i expect Australia could avoid that.

Damn. 15 off 2, game over for India.

Kudos to Aussie bowlers. They handled pressure really well, its not easy for bowlers when you are bowling against 2 gun batsmen at the death overs. Big plus for Australia is their 2 wrist spinners they are complimenting each others quite convincingly during the middle overs.

Shreyas and Samson need impressive IPL season next year 2021. If they want to get in the T-20 WC squad, otherwise there is no chance for them. Surya Kumar Yadav might be good contender if he clicks in IPL one more time.

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Glad that Australia could avoid the white wash in the T20 series. India needs 23 runs from the last 4 balls and it is an impossible target.
The lower order can throw their bat as they hit a six again and they need to score 3 more sixes to win the match, i expect Australia could avoid that.

Damn. 15 off 2, game over for India.

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Shikhar Dhawan and Virat Kohli seems to have consolidated the innings after the fall of KL Rahul. Shikhar Dhawan just got out, and Sanju Samson has come to the crease. Now this is an ideal opportunity for Sanju to play a crucial innings, after his repeated failures. And the required run rate is still under two runs per ball, so he has enough time to settle in.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 08, 2020, 04:44:21 AM

Not taking review on time, wasting all review, taking wicket on no ball and dropping catches. Seems Indians trying to lose game real bad. Still 15 balls left for Aussie and almost 9.20 run rate so today they should reach close to 200 easily.

Edit : May be 190ish

Edit : Nataaaraajaan!

You were spot on, OZ finally managed to reach 186/5 and India would just feel better that they dint allowed them to cross 200 because they had wickets in hand but bowlers managed to restrict them and not allowed them to clear the boundary easily. Overall, only 5 sixes were hit in the innings.
India lost Rahul on 2nd ball of innings which was not the start looking for. India are now 27/1 in 3.1 and Dhawan-Kohli partnership will be crucial if they build the innings and do not lose wickets then India would have chance to whitewash this series.

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Not taking review on time, wasting all review, taking wicket on no ball and dropping catches. Seems Indians trying to lose game real bad. Still 15 balls left for Aussie and almost 9.20 run rate so today they should reach close to 200 easily.

Edit : May be 190ish

Edit : Nataaaraajaan!

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on December 08, 2020, 02:11:23 AM

I think Saini is suitable for T20 match. But the Indian team for Odi or Test matches has more skilled and experienced players than Saini. Saini will have to work harder to play an ODI match for the Indian team. I think if he gets close to a good and experienced coach. He can improve his bowling. The Indian team management should build Saini properly.

Agreed. Temperament is needed for the longer format and Saini lacks that. On the other hand, I have a feeling that Natarajan is suitable for both the shorter format, as well as the longer format. Anyway, it is nice to see so much competition for the slot of pace-bowlers in the Indian team. Apart from Natarajan, Saini and Siraj, we have a bunch of young pacers waiting for their opportunity, including Nagarkoti, Tyagi, Shivam Mavi.etc.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on December 06, 2020, 11:32:41 AM

I have a feeling that Natarajan would make an excellent pace bowling duo with Jasprit Bumrah. Saini is too inconsistent, and he always attempt to bowl as fast as possible, rather than trying to maintain good line and length. He is very expensive, especially when playing against good teams such as England and Australia.

I never liked Saini's bowling from the beginning, but many posters here appreciated his bowling. I feel there are better alternatives out there.

I like Saini as a bowler and i think he could do very well in the international cricket. May be it would be good if he's training under likes of Dravid or Zaheer so that he could learn to keep his emotion and raw pace in check otherwise Virat's influence could turn him into another Umesh Yadav in the limited over cricket.

I think Saini is suitable for T20 match. But the Indian team for Odi or Test matches has more skilled and experienced players than Saini. Saini will have to work harder to play an ODI match for the Indian team. I think if he gets close to a good and experienced coach. He can improve his bowling. The Indian team management should build Saini properly.

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 07, 2020, 09:38:20 PM

I like Saini as a bowler and i think he could do very well in the international cricket. May be it would be good if he's training under likes of Dravid or Zaheer so that he could learn to keep his emotion and raw pace in check otherwise Virat's influence could turn him into another Umesh Yadav in the limited over cricket.

Both Dravid and Zaheer are known as mild natured and I don't know whether Saini would be able to adjust working with them. Aggression, up to some extent is good. But when someone repeatedly bowls beamers directed at the batsmen and then refuse to apologize, then the term is not "aggression". It is more like bullying rather than aggression. Saini is not the fastest bowler in the world. We had legends such as Curtly Ambrose, Alan Donald, Glenn McGrath and Courtney Walsh in the international cricket scene two decades ago. They never bowled intentional beamers even once in their career. But that didn't prevented them from winning matches for their team.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on December 06, 2020, 11:32:41 AM

I have a feeling that Natarajan would make an excellent pace bowling duo with Jasprit Bumrah. Saini is too inconsistent, and he always attempt to bowl as fast as possible, rather than trying to maintain good line and length. He is very expensive, especially when playing against good teams such as England and Australia.

I never liked Saini's bowling from the beginning, but many posters here appreciated his bowling. I feel there are better alternatives out there.

I like Saini as a bowler and i think he could do very well in the international cricket. May be it would be good if he's training under likes of Dravid or Zaheer so that he could learn to keep his emotion and raw pace in check otherwise Virat's influence could turn him into another Umesh Yadav in the limited over cricket.

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Quote from: Iranus on December 07, 2020, 11:46:48 AM

I think Natarajan is now fit to play T20 and ODI matches for the Indian national team. Now he is in good form. The Indian coach should now collaborate to further develop Natarajan’s talent and skill. Otherwise, Natarajan will not be able to service the India team for a long time. He will be lost in the crowd of other players. We have seen before that many good talented players are lost due to lack of perfect direction.

To play IPL for a month and now playing in Australia and performing you think Natarajan has fitness issues Tongue

. The talents that did not fulfill is because they did not change with the demands of international cricket and you need to evolve as a cricketer because the opposition team is always learning your bowling skills and until you evolve and change you will fade out.

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So far its turning out to be a great all round series between Australian and India with Australia winning the ODI series and now India winning the T20 series. Australia will be fighting to at least win the game tonight as they don't want to get white washed in the series heading into the test match series.

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I totally agree with you. I think Natarajan plays much better than Saini and Siraj. He will do better if he is trained well. He has bowled brilliantly in the last T20 match against Australia. He is far ahead of Saini and Siraj.

Agreed. IMO, Natarajan will be a better partner for Bumrah, when compared to either Saini or Siraj. India didn't had a quality left-arm pacer for quite sometime now, and I am sure that Natarajan will be able to fill that vacuum. The fact that he plays for SRH shouldn't be held against him. And the Indian selectors need to tell Kohli that he should not get too biased while selecting the playing XI.

Now its all on his fitness and selectors how they settle this young talent because now first they need to give him some good time in these two short formats as he gain some good expereince then bring him in test format which could be great for him and surely he is going to be very good for Indian bowling attack which was looking for replacing Ishant as now his time is coming up and this could be great for this younster as well.

I think Natarajan is now fit to play T20 and ODI matches for the Indian national team. Now he is in good form. The Indian coach should now collaborate to further develop Natarajan’s talent and skill. Otherwise, Natarajan will not be able to service the India team for a long time. He will be lost in the crowd of other players. We have seen before that many good talented players are lost due to lack of perfect direction.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on December 06, 2020, 10:24:05 PM

The advantage for Navdeep Saini and Mohammed Siraj is that both of them play for RCB, which happens to be Virat Kohli's IPL franchise. Earlier there was a "CSK quota" in the Indian team, through which Mahendra Singh Dhoni got players such as Kedar Jadhav selected for the Indian team. Now this CSK quota has been replaced with the RCB quota. I am not saying that Saini and Siraj are bad players. But it is a fact that more deserving (or even equally deserving) players get overlooked in their favor.

This is true, but this doesn't mean that Kohli or MSD were wrong. If Rohit was the captain, he would probably focus on MI players too. They got to work with these players and have experience playing with them which is why they trusted them.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 06, 2020, 11:41:54 PM

The fact that he plays for SRH shouldn't be held against him. And the Indian selectors need to tell Kohli that he should not get too biased while selecting the playing XI.

His recent performances helped him get noticed, but he still has a long way to go. 1 or 2 good performances are not enough to judge a player in any sport. He needs to be given more opportunities though.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 06, 2020, 11:41:54 PM

Quote from: Iranus on December 06, 2020, 11:23:45 PM

I totally agree with you. I think Natarajan plays much better than Saini and Siraj. He will do better if he is trained well. He has bowled brilliantly in the last T20 match against Australia. He is far ahead of Saini and Siraj.

Agreed. IMO, Natarajan will be a better partner for Bumrah, when compared to either Saini or Siraj. India didn't had a quality left-arm pacer for quite sometime now, and I am sure that Natarajan will be able to fill that vacuum. The fact that he plays for SRH shouldn't be held against him. And the Indian selectors need to tell Kohli that he should not get too biased while selecting the playing XI.

Now its all on his fitness and selectors how they settle this young talent because now first they need to give him some good time in these two short formats as he gain some good expereince then bring him in test format which could be great for him and surely he is going to be very good for Indian bowling attack which was looking for replacing Ishant as now his time is coming up and this could be great for this younster as well.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 06, 2020, 11:41:54 PM

Quote from: Iranus on December 06, 2020, 11:23:45 PM

I totally agree with you. I think Natarajan plays much better than Saini and Siraj. He will do better if he is trained well. He has bowled brilliantly in the last T20 match against Australia. He is far ahead of Saini and Siraj.

Agreed. IMO, Natarajan will be a better partner for Bumrah, when compared to either Saini or Siraj. India didn't had a quality left-arm pacer for quite sometime now, and I am sure that Natarajan will be able to fill that vacuum. The fact that he plays for SRH shouldn't be held against him. And the Indian selectors need to tell Kohli that he should not get too biased while selecting the playing XI.

The Indian team looks really strong, indeed a brilliant bowling figure against Australia. Natarajan is an asset for Indian team, he is in finest form. Such a great left arm bowler and yorker like Bumrah, with legitimate direction from senior members of Indian team his confidence will certainly boost.

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Quote from: Iranus on December 06, 2020, 11:23:45 PM

I totally agree with you. I think Natarajan plays much better than Saini and Siraj. He will do better if he is trained well. He has bowled brilliantly in the last T20 match against Australia. He is far ahead of Saini and Siraj.

Agreed. IMO, Natarajan will be a better partner for Bumrah, when compared to either Saini or Siraj. India didn't had a quality left-arm pacer for quite sometime now, and I am sure that Natarajan will be able to fill that vacuum. The fact that he plays for SRH shouldn't be held against him. And the Indian selectors need to tell Kohli that he should not get too biased while selecting the playing XI.

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Quote from: Iranus on December 06, 2020, 11:23:45 PM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on December 06, 2020, 10:24:05 PM

Quote from: Haunebu on December 06, 2020, 12:16:46 PM

I never liked Saini's bowling from the beginning, but many posters here appreciated his bowling. I feel there are better alternatives out there.

The advantage for Navdeep Saini and Mohammed Siraj is that both of them play for RCB, which happens to be Virat Kohli's IPL franchise. Earlier there was a "CSK quota" in the Indian team, through which Mahendra Singh Dhoni got players such as Kedar Jadhav selected for the Indian team. Now this CSK quota has been replaced with the RCB quota. I am not saying that Saini and Siraj are bad players. But it is a fact that more deserving (or even equally deserving) players get overlooked in their favor.

I totally agree with you. I think Natarajan plays much better than Saini and Siraj. He will do better if he is trained well. He has bowled brilliantly in the last T20 match against Australia. He is far ahead of Saini and Siraj.

@bryant.coleman I would like to take a different approach here, and say whether you see from the ex Indian captain’s eye i.e. Ms Dhoni, or the current captain Virat’s eyes then you’ll see that they selected the player’s they felt that can execute their game plan better than the other player’s. Furthermore many times it’s not overall records that matter, but it’s the trust that the captain has in his chosen player’s which often proves decisive in important matches.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on December 06, 2020, 10:24:05 PM

Quote from: Haunebu on December 06, 2020, 12:16:46 PM

I never liked Saini's bowling from the beginning, but many posters here appreciated his bowling. I feel there are better alternatives out there.

The advantage for Navdeep Saini and Mohammed Siraj is that both of them play for RCB, which happens to be Virat Kohli's IPL franchise. Earlier there was a "CSK quota" in the Indian team, through which Mahendra Singh Dhoni got players such as Kedar Jadhav selected for the Indian team. Now this CSK quota has been replaced with the RCB quota. I am not saying that Saini and Siraj are bad players. But it is a fact that more deserving (or even equally deserving) players get overlooked in their favor.

I totally agree with you. I think Natarajan plays much better than Saini and Siraj. He will do better if he is trained well. He has bowled brilliantly in the last T20 match against Australia. He is far ahead of Saini and Siraj.

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Quote from: Haunebu on December 06, 2020, 12:16:46 PM

I never liked Saini's bowling from the beginning, but many posters here appreciated his bowling. I feel there are better alternatives out there.

The advantage for Navdeep Saini and Mohammed Siraj is that both of them play for RCB, which happens to be Virat Kohli's IPL franchise. Earlier there was a "CSK quota" in the Indian team, through which Mahendra Singh Dhoni got players such as Kedar Jadhav selected for the Indian team. Now this CSK quota has been replaced with the RCB quota. I am not saying that Saini and Siraj are bad players. But it is a fact that more deserving (or even equally deserving) players get overlooked in their favor.

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Quote from: yeamin.rsl on December 06, 2020, 06:42:42 AM

Now India need 14 runs in the final over.Pandya and Iyer playing really well today.Let's see can india secure their 2 nd win in a row.
Edit : Pandya just sealed their win with a huge six and india won by 6 wickets.

Pandya is unstoppable .....
India team is far more superior in T20 than any other team courtesy IPL.

There were many users here who thought India would lose, but it maintained its streak. I smell the next T20 is going to be exciting as both the teams are now in great form and India is not looking in a mood to lose any games off the 3, but I adore Australia for their batting and if in the next match, they will present a score over 210, then India will lose.

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