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Quote from: JSRAW on November 27, 2020, 11:25:36 AM

It seems majority of here were excited about only Ind vs Aus clash? No one even gave much thought on (T-20) WI vs NZ. In which NZ won the game nicely because of their lower middle order. I missed the game so i am guilty as well.

Another game is in progress in Cape Town (Eng vs SA).

SA : 50/1 (5 overs) raining 4s, 6s Shocked

In first match you was guilty but in second match BE Hendricks is guilty party as in 17th over he give 28 runs and match to England Jonny Bairstow is also on good touch as he give matching inning 86 of 48 balls match was very interesting but suddenly 17th over change all momentum in England favour.

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It seems majority of here were excited about only Ind vs Aus clash? No one even gave much thought on (T-20) WI vs NZ. In which NZ won the game nicely because of their lower middle order. I missed the game so i am guilty as well.

Another game is in progress in Cape Town (Eng vs SA).

SA : 50/1 (5 overs) raining 4s, 6s Shocked

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on November 27, 2020, 01:58:55 AM

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Fan base for cricket in India is really huge and when elites know how to use their cricket enthusiasm for their profits then these kind of things will happen.Other cricket boards are also making money but not up to the level of BCCI and BCCI is making more profits than ICC I guess.

To be honest cricket is expected to be much shorter in the future and I am scared that it could end up the sport's future! Undecided

India, being a country of 1.4 billion would be a prime market not just for cricket, but also for all the other sports. Many of the sports boards in India have successful franchise leagues established by them.

Apart from cricket not much sports got same amount of fan base as cricket in India, Soccer the sport which got more fan base than cricket even is struggling to find the fan base and sponsors there.That is why most leagues are only based on cricket but India has talent from all sports but they are not rich enough to support the activities and give up even before reaching their goals.

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Quote from: mersal on November 27, 2020, 01:45:02 AM

Fan base for cricket in India is really huge and when elites know how to use their cricket enthusiasm for their profits then these kind of things will happen.Other cricket boards are also making money but not up to the level of BCCI and BCCI is making more profits than ICC I guess.

To be honest cricket is expected to be much shorter in the future and I am scared that it could end up the sport's future! Undecided

India, being a country of 1.4 billion would be a prime market not just for cricket, but also for all the other sports. Many of the sports boards in India have successful franchise leagues established by them. Some of them are well established, such as the Tamil Nadu Premier League and the Karnataka Premier League, while others are still in their infancy. But these state leagues don't feature any foreign players and the salaries are low. On the other hand, Sri Lanka is having a population of around 20 million (less than one-third of that of Tamil Nadu), and they have launched a glitzy T20 league with international players. I would be glad, if the league is successful. But I am skeptical, given the limited size of the market in Sri Lanka.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on November 26, 2020, 11:42:07 PM

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Seeing the revenue earned by BCCI through IPL most boards started their own leagues and to date they have not been able to equal the revenue amount of IPL.

And this is where things go wrong for the other boards. Everyone want to copy the IPL and establish their own franchise T20 leagues. They never do proper research on the viability of such leagues. Even smaller boards like the Sri Lanka Cricket (SLC) have jumped in with their LPL. In most cases, these leagues end up as loss making ventures, because the boards overestimate the potential revenues.

Fan base for cricket in India is really huge and when elites know how to use their cricket enthusiasm for their profits then these kind of things will happen.Other cricket boards are also making money but not up to the level of BCCI and BCCI is making more profits than ICC I guess.

To be honest cricket is expected to be much shorter in the future and I am scared that it could end up the sport's future! Undecided

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on November 26, 2020, 11:28:58 PM

Seeing the revenue earned by BCCI through IPL most boards started their own leagues and to date they have not been able to equal the revenue amount of IPL.

And this is where things go wrong for the other boards. Everyone want to copy the IPL and establish their own franchise T20 leagues. They never do proper research on the viability of such leagues. Even smaller boards like the Sri Lanka Cricket (SLC) have jumped in with their LPL. In most cases, these leagues end up as loss making ventures, because the boards overestimate the potential revenues.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on November 26, 2020, 11:18:42 PM

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Quote from: mersal on November 26, 2020, 12:48:35 PM

IPL is really created to find the young talents in India and we also have to accept that it changed the cricket era to the next level after the introduction of IPL but now IPL is now turning into more business than sports so we may see the increase in the overseas player limit but I don't think there will be an increase in the teams because they tried it in the past but it didn't worked.

Nope. IPL was not created to find young talent. We have various domestic tournaments, especially the Ranji Trophy to do that job. The main purpose of the IPL is to provide funds to the BCCI, so that they can develop the domestic cricket tournaments. IPL was always a business and will be so for the remainder of its lifespan. They are considering increasing the number of teams to 9, and a number of industry heavyweights (especially Adani and Goenka) are making their moves. Let's see whether the new team will be permitted from 2021 or not.

I partially agree with you. The main purpose of IPL is to provide funds for BCCI. And at the end of every ipl we see BCCI got an huge amount of revenue from ipl in an era. You said that new players are being sought in the Ranji Trophy. You are right.But whether those players are suitable for the national team is tested in IPL. Because all the best players in the world play in IPL.

Yes, you are absolutely correct main purpose of IPL is to generate revenue for BCCI and the second one is to test potential T20 players for the A team.

Seeing the revenue earned by BCCI through IPL most boards started their own leagues and to date they have not been able to equal the revenue amount of IPL.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on November 26, 2020, 11:18:42 PM

I partially agree with you. The main purpose of IPL is to provide funds for BCCI. And at the end of every ipl we see BCCI got an huge amount of revenue from ipl in an era. You said that new players are being sought in the Ranji Trophy. You are right.But whether those players are suitable for the national team is tested in IPL. Because all the best players in the world play in IPL.

IPL is just like a mini-T20 World Cup, because you may find the best players from all over the world. And that's the reason why it may be logical to increase the overseas player limit to 5. It will remove the useless players such as Kedar Jadhav, and replace them with quality international players.

During IPL 2020, I noticed a large number of quality international players, who didn't got enough opportunities due to the 4-player limit. Some of them are Mitchell Santner, Imran Tahir, Sandeep Lamichhane, Mujeeb Ur Rahman, Hardus Viljoen, Mitchell McClenaghan, Adam Zampa, Mohammad Nabi and Fabian Allen.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on November 26, 2020, 01:01:36 PM

Quote from: mersal on November 26, 2020, 12:48:35 PM

IPL is really created to find the young talents in India and we also have to accept that it changed the cricket era to the next level after the introduction of IPL but now IPL is now turning into more business than sports so we may see the increase in the overseas player limit but I don't think there will be an increase in the teams because they tried it in the past but it didn't worked.

Nope. IPL was not created to find young talent. We have various domestic tournaments, especially the Ranji Trophy to do that job. The main purpose of the IPL is to provide funds to the BCCI, so that they can develop the domestic cricket tournaments. IPL was always a business and will be so for the remainder of its lifespan. They are considering increasing the number of teams to 9, and a number of industry heavyweights (especially Adani and Goenka) are making their moves. Let's see whether the new team will be permitted from 2021 or not.

I partially agree with you. The main purpose of IPL is to provide funds for BCCI. And at the end of every ipl we see BCCI got an huge amount of revenue from ipl in an era. You said that new players are being sought in the Ranji Trophy. You are right.But whether those players are suitable for the national team is tested in IPL. Because all the best players in the world play in IPL.

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Quote from: Indymoney on November 26, 2020, 04:18:36 PM

This is real steal because ICL was on and they started this all with huge money and good management some reall big names was also doing good marketing for them as BCCI check first edition they start their own plan as Lalit Modi was also really good even he was some corrupt and greedy but started very good on good time which is now Gold Mine for BCCI after Australian Cricket Board BCCI mean business these two boards are doing all this for good money but India is going with big advantage of big market in cricket.

It was Subhash Chandra who came up with the ICL, because the BCCI under Srinivasan and Sharad Pawar would award TV rights only to their cronies. BCCI never expected the ICL to be successful, but it was able to generate a lot of revenues. Ego was hurt and the BCCI decided to destroy the ICL once and for all, by starting a league of their own. So they revived the idea of a franchise based league, which was discarded multiple times earlier. In the end, it turned out to be a boon for the BCCI. The IPL now accounts for the majority of the BCCI revenues.

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The main purpose of the IPL is to provide funds to the BCCI, so that they can develop the domestic cricket tournaments. IPL was always a business and will be so for the remainder of its lifespan. They are considering increasing the number of teams to 9, and a number of industry heavyweights (especially Adani and Goenka) are making their moves. Let's see whether the new team will be permitted from 2021 or not.

The real concept was big money and Lalit Modi knew that they could make huge money with it and i am sure he pocketed some and hence he was under the scanner and then in exile and with India winning the inaugural T20 World Cup it was the perfect timing to launch the IPL and it was a big success and the entire franchise format was stolen from the ICL and BCCI along with ICC killed the tournament entire private tournament and BCCI started their own Cheesy

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This is real steal because ICL was on and they started this all with huge money and good management some reall big names was also doing good marketing for them as BCCI check first edition they start their own plan as Lalit Modi was also really good even he was some corrupt and greedy but started very good on good time which is now Gold Mine for BCCI after Australian Cricket Board BCCI mean business these two boards are doing all this for good money but India is going with big advantage of big market in cricket.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on November 26, 2020, 01:01:36 PM

The main purpose of the IPL is to provide funds to the BCCI, so that they can develop the domestic cricket tournaments. IPL was always a business and will be so for the remainder of its lifespan. They are considering increasing the number of teams to 9, and a number of industry heavyweights (especially Adani and Goenka) are making their moves. Let's see whether the new team will be permitted from 2021 or not.

The real concept was big money and Lalit Modi knew that they could make huge money with it and i am sure he pocketed some and hence he was under the scanner and then in exile and with India winning the inaugural T20 World Cup it was the perfect timing to launch the IPL and it was a big success and the entire franchise format was stolen from the ICL and BCCI along with ICC killed the tournament entire private tournament and BCCI started their own Cheesy

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Quote from: mersal on November 26, 2020, 12:48:35 PM

IPL is really created to find the young talents in India and we also have to accept that it changed the cricket era to the next level after the introduction of IPL but now IPL is now turning into more business than sports so we may see the increase in the overseas player limit but I don't think there will be an increase in the teams because they tried it in the past but it didn't worked.

Nope. IPL was not created to find young talent. We have various domestic tournaments, especially the Ranji Trophy to do that job. The main purpose of the IPL is to provide funds to the BCCI, so that they can develop the domestic cricket tournaments. IPL was always a business and will be so for the remainder of its lifespan. They are considering increasing the number of teams to 9, and a number of industry heavyweights (especially Adani and Goenka) are making their moves. Let's see whether the new team will be permitted from 2021 or not.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on November 25, 2020, 11:12:25 PM

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I think the decision to have 4 foreign players in the squad is the perfect decision. Because the main goal of BCCI is to find talented young players. And after every IPL we can see BCCI has got a lot of young talented players. As a result, the idian squad is always strong. I agree with you, older players should be avoided. And young players should be given more opportunities. Because the youngsters will lead the next Indian team.

I would personally go for a 5 player per team limit for foreign players. It would mean that low quality players such as Kedar Jadhav, Piyush Chawla and Dinesh Karthik are weeded out from the playing XI. Right now the limitation of 4 overseas players is only benefiting these oldies and not any younger player. Also, there are plans to increase the number of teams from the current 8 to either 9 or 10, and that should give room for fringe players.

IPL is really created to find the young talents in India and we also have to accept that it changed the cricket era to the next level after the introduction of IPL but now IPL is now turning into more business than sports so we may see the increase in the overseas player limit but I don't think there will be an increase in the teams because they tried it in the past but it didn't worked.

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Quote from: ene1980 on November 26, 2020, 12:35:35 AM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on November 25, 2020, 11:12:25 PM

Right now the limitation of 4 overseas players is only benefiting these oldies and not any younger player. Also, there are plans to increase the number of teams from the current 8 to either 9 or 10, and that should give room for fringe players.

There are some young talents that were in display and if not for the IPL we would not hear from them and there was one player from MI who was consistent throughout the tournament and did not get a place in the Australian tour and there was legit heat from everyone for not including that player, if not for the IPL no one would know about him or his performance, it is helping the young players as well as the retired players Cheesy

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Obviously with the domestic cricket in India not being in good shape, the IPL is the primary platform for the younger players to showcase their talent in front of the selectors. A number of good young players were noticed during this edition of the IPL. My only concern is that the test format may get overshadowed by the glitz of IPL. Everyone is after T20 these days.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on November 25, 2020, 11:12:25 PM

Right now the limitation of 4 overseas players is only benefiting these oldies and not any younger player. Also, there are plans to increase the number of teams from the current 8 to either 9 or 10, and that should give room for fringe players.

There are some young talents that were in display and if not for the IPL we would not hear from them and there was one player from MI who was consistent throughout the tournament and did not get a place in the Australian tour and there was legit heat from everyone for not including that player, if not for the IPL no one would know about him or his performance, it is helping the young players as well as the retired players Cheesy

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on November 25, 2020, 11:05:39 PM

I think the decision to have 4 foreign players in the squad is the perfect decision. Because the main goal of BCCI is to find talented young players. And after every IPL we can see BCCI has got a lot of young talented players. As a result, the idian squad is always strong. I agree with you, older players should be avoided. And young players should be given more opportunities. Because the youngsters will lead the next Indian team.

I would personally go for a 5 player per team limit for foreign players. It would mean that low quality players such as Kedar Jadhav, Piyush Chawla and Dinesh Karthik are weeded out from the playing XI. Right now the limitation of 4 overseas players is only benefiting these oldies and not any younger player. Also, there are plans to increase the number of teams from the current 8 to either 9 or 10, and that should give room for fringe players.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on November 25, 2020, 02:41:37 PM

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They are just copying IPL. One of the most exciting part of IPL is a team can play at most 4 international players in a team. Which gives it an international feel. It makes it popular in the countries of the players participating as well becomes more thrilling to local users.

The exciting part of IPL according to me is the level of competition and the quality of players and they should increase the number of foreign players in a team for the real excitement but they have their restrictions and we assume that they are doing that to help the domestic players and it is a good thing as it is giving them a financial boost as well.

You cannot call other tournaments copying IPL, club matches are not a new concept and Soccer is more popular in the club circuit than International matches other than World Cup and Cricket is just trying to replicate that in the T20 format.

If they increase the number of foreign player in a team, then what is will be the benefit of holding a T-20 competition?
The primary goal is to find aggressive all rounders and to earn money for BCCI. In my opinion it is okay to have only 4 foreign players and put an age cap to avoid the oldies. There are many young foreign talents who are not getting an opportunity here because IPL allows franchises to buy old or retired players.
I think they should also do the same for Indians as most veterans are now playing as if it is a domestic cricket.

I think the decision to have 4 foreign players in the squad is the perfect decision. Because the main goal of BCCI is to find talented young players. And after every IPL we can see BCCI has got a lot of young talented players. As a result, the Indian squad is always strong. I agree with you, older players should be avoided and young players should be given more opportunities. Because the youngsters will lead the next Indian team.

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Quote from: covfefe_ on November 22, 2020, 08:50:56 PM

They are just copying IPL. One of the most exciting part of IPL is a team can play at most 4 international players in a team. Which gives it an international feel. It makes it popular in the countries of the players participating as well becomes more thrilling to local users.

The exciting part of IPL according to me is the level of competition and the quality of players and they should increase the number of foreign players in a team for the real excitement but they have their restrictions and we assume that they are doing that to help the domestic players and it is a good thing as it is giving them a financial boost as well.

You cannot call other tournaments copying IPL, club matches are not a new concept and Soccer is more popular in the club circuit than International matches other than World Cup and Cricket is just trying to replicate that in the T20 format.

If they increase the number of foreign player in a team, then what is will be the benefit of holding a T-20 competition?
The primary goal is to find aggressive all rounders and to earn money for BCCI. In my opinion it is okay to have only 4 foreign players and put an age cap to avoid the oldies. There are many young foreign talents who are not getting an opportunity here because IPL allows franchises to buy old or retired players.
I think they should also do the same for Indians as most veterans are now playing as if it is a domestic cricket.

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Quote from: covfefe_ on November 22, 2020, 08:50:56 PM

They are just copying IPL. One of the most exciting part of IPL is a team can play at most 4 international players in a team. Which gives it an international feel. It makes it popular in the countries of the players participating as well becomes more thrilling to local users.

The exciting part of IPL according to me is the level of competition and the quality of players and they should increase the number of foreign players in a team for the real excitement but they have their restrictions and we assume that they are doing that to help the domestic players and it is a good thing as it is giving them a financial boost as well.

You cannot call other tournaments copying IPL, club matches are not a new concept and Soccer is more popular in the club circuit than International matches other than World Cup and Cricket is just trying to replicate that in the T20 format.

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