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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on February 03, 2021, 01:39:44 AM

Quote from: mersal on February 03, 2021, 01:28:19 AM

Cricket can't be compared with Soccer or Olympic games because where players compete with each other in equal amounts whereas in cricket only 2 batsmen can be in the middle while 11 opponents stop their runs. 3.5 hours is not even enough to get the real cricket to feel because more longer you play the pitch will get better or worsen which is unlikely to change in a 10 over the game.

In that case, why can't we restrict the 10 over format to just 6 players? 11 players for 10 overs doesn't make any sense. It means that most of the players will never get a chance to showcase their skills. The number of players need to be reduced and that will make sure that everyone gets their chance.

Yup, again I watched an highlight where West Indies players all around the game and they are looking to hit six for every balls from the very first balls which is the actual cricket?

And the radius of cricket ground also should be reduced and probably they are trying to bring the international cricket into gully cricket. Grin

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 03, 2021, 02:32:28 AM

Apart from windies none of the players you mentioned are considered premier players even in their respective countries T-20 squad or national team. Jordan is okay but he's loosing his spot even in English team. Banton is new fish so hardly a premier asset atm. Tahir and Hafeez are about to retire soon although i consider them heavy weight but they can't attract crowd anymore and don't know how much eyeballs can Stirling pull off by his own.

Players such as Pollard, Russell and Gayle are crowd pullers and I need to appreciate the efforts of the Abu Dhabi Cricket Council for organizing such a tournament. They have also given chance to players from smaller nations such as USA, Nepal and Ireland. You can't expect Australian or Indian players in tournaments such as this one, for obvious reasons. Australians are worried about their fitness levels and they will restrict their participation to two leagues at the most in a calendar year (BBL/IPL). Indian players are not allowed to participate in any league apart from the IPL.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on February 03, 2021, 01:39:44 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on February 03, 2021, 01:12:34 AM

So far i didn't find T-10 format interesting, may be because we hardly see any premier international players in such tournament. Windies players do feature once a while but its not enough. Although things could change drastically once "The 100 ball" tournament kicks in or Big teams starts playing T-10.

Well.. this time they have a number of star players, including Pollard, Narine, Gayle, Shinwari, Stirling, Hafeez, Fletcher, Wiese, Ingram, Tahir, Afridi, Salt, Jordan, Banton, Tanvir, Hasan Ali, Dunk, Bravo, Lyth, Pooran and Russell. Obviously you are not going to find any Indian player, but I would say that the presence of international heavyweights is even better than BBL or CPL.

Apart from windies none of the players you mentioned are considered premier players even in their respective countries T-20 squad or national team. Jordan is okay but he's loosing his spot even in English team. Banton is new fish so hardly a premier asset atm. Tahir and Hafeez are about to retire soon although i consider them heavy weight but they can't attract crowd anymore and don't know how much eyeballs can Stirling pull off by his own.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 03, 2021, 01:12:34 AM

So far i didn't find T-10 format interesting, may be because we hardly see any premier international players in such tournament. Windies players do feature once a while but its not enough. Although things could change drastically once "The 100 ball" tournament kicks in or Big teams starts playing T-10.

Well.. this time they have a number of star players, including Pollard, Narine, Gayle, Shinwari, Stirling, Hafeez, Fletcher, Wiese, Ingram, Tahir, Afridi, Salt, Jordan, Banton, Tanvir, Hasan Ali, Dunk, Bravo, Lyth, Pooran and Russell. Obviously you are not going to find any Indian player, but I would say that the presence of international heavyweights is even better than BBL or CPL.

Quote from: mersal on February 03, 2021, 01:28:19 AM

Cricket can't be compared with Soccer or Olympic games because where players compete with each other in equal amounts whereas in cricket only 2 batsmen can be in the middle while 11 opponents stop their runs. 3.5 hours is not even enough to get the real cricket to feel because more longer you play the pitch will get better or worsen which is unlikely to change in a 10 over the game.

In that case, why can't we restrict the 10 over format to just 6 players? 11 players for 10 overs doesn't make any sense. It means that most of the players will never get a chance to showcase their skills. The number of players need to be reduced and that will make sure that everyone gets their chance.

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Quote from: mersal on February 02, 2021, 11:44:02 AM

Youtube suggested me a highlight by Nicholas pooran until I didn't know about T10 league actually exists, good attempt and building their own kind of shorter form of league but I don't think this is going to be in International matches because even T20 itself the shortest and further reducing the match can't give actual essence of cricketing experience so with this kind of leagues we are actually killing the future of cricket.

The logic being given is that an average T20 match last for 3 to 3.5 hours, which is almost double the duration of a football or hockey match. They want to reduce the duration, in order to make it comparable with the other sports. T10 match takes around 1.5-2.0 hours at the most, which is similar to the duration for other sports. The organizers say that this variety is most suited for multi-sports events such as Olympics and Asian Games. But I have watched a few matches and I didn't liked the format. It is just mad hitting and nothing else. For me 10 over format is too short.

Cricket can't be compared with Soccer or Olympic games because where players compete with each other in equal amounts whereas in cricket only 2 batsmen can be in the middle while 11 opponents stop their runs. 3.5 hours is not even enough to get the real cricket to feel because more longer you play the pitch will get better or worsen which is unlikely to change in a 10 over the game.

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So far i didn't find T-10 format interesting, may be because we hardly see any premier international players in such tournament. Windies players do feature once a while but its not enough. Although things could change drastically once "The 100 ball" tournament kicks in or Big teams starts playing T-10.

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Quote from: mersal on February 02, 2021, 11:44:02 AM

Youtube suggested me a highlight by Nicholas pooran until I didn't know about T10 league actually exists, good attempt and building their own kind of shorter form of league but I don't think this is going to be in International matches because even T20 itself the shortest and further reducing the match can't give actual essence of cricketing experience so with this kind of leagues we are actually killing the future of cricket.

The logic being given is that an average T20 match last for 3 to 3.5 hours, which is almost double the duration of a football or hockey match. They want to reduce the duration, in order to make it comparable with the other sports. T10 match takes around 1.5-2.0 hours at the most, which is similar to the duration for other sports. The organizers say that this variety is most suited for multi-sports events such as Olympics and Asian Games. But I have watched a few matches and I didn't liked the format. It is just mad hitting and nothing else. For me 10 over format is too short.

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Quote from: mersal on February 02, 2021, 11:44:02 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on January 31, 2021, 10:01:19 PM

Anyone following the Abu Dhabi T10 League? By now it has established a brand name for itself, and some of the big names in international cricket are participating. A few big names include Andre Russell, Chris Gayle, Nicholas Pooran, Andre Fletcher, Mujeeb Ur Rahman, Dawid Malan, Hardus Viljoen, Wahab Riaz, Brandon King, Paul Stirling and Kieron Pollard. I watched some of the matches, and they were exciting. But the only thing I didn't liked was the tournament format and the name of the teams. They could have named teams after the emirates in the UAE. On the other hand, they named teams like Delhi Bulls and Pune Devils, without any player from Delhi and Pune respectively.

Youtube suggested me a highlight by Nicholas pooran until I didn't know about T10 league actually exists, good attempt and building their own kind of shorter form of league but I don't think this is going to be in International matches because even T20 itself the shortest and further reducing the match can't give actual essence of cricketing experience so with this kind of leagues we are actually killing the future of cricket.

I am not a big fan of T10 as you said the match is reduced to 50% from T20, which may not be preferred by many, I guess. If something like 10 overs a team’s bats first and second team bats 10 overs and then again each team plays 10 overs something like this which means a change in T20 format may just be little interesting rather than just playing 10 -10 overs. In next couple of years then we may have T5 too.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 31, 2021, 10:01:19 PM

Anyone following the Abu Dhabi T10 League? By now it has established a brand name for itself, and some of the big names in international cricket are participating. A few big names include Andre Russell, Chris Gayle, Nicholas Pooran, Andre Fletcher, Mujeeb Ur Rahman, Dawid Malan, Hardus Viljoen, Wahab Riaz, Brandon King, Paul Stirling and Kieron Pollard. I watched some of the matches, and they were exciting. But the only thing I didn't liked was the tournament format and the name of the teams. They could have named teams after the emirates in the UAE. On the other hand, they named teams like Delhi Bulls and Pune Devils, without any player from Delhi and Pune respectively.

Youtube suggested me a highlight by Nicholas pooran until I didn't know about T10 league actually exists, good attempt and building their own kind of shorter form of league but I don't think this is going to be in International matches because even T20 itself the shortest and further reducing the match can't give actual essence of cricketing experience so with this kind of leagues we are actually killing the future of cricket.

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Anyone following the Abu Dhabi T10 League? By now it has established a brand name for itself, and some of the big names in international cricket are participating. A few big names include Andre Russell, Chris Gayle, Nicholas Pooran, Andre Fletcher, Mujeeb Ur Rahman, Dawid Malan, Hardus Viljoen, Wahab Riaz, Brandon King, Paul Stirling and Kieron Pollard. I watched some of the matches, and they were exciting. But the only thing I didn't liked was the tournament format and the name of the teams. They could have named teams after the emirates in the UAE. On the other hand, they named teams like Delhi Bulls and Pune Devils, without any player from Delhi and Pune respectively.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on January 31, 2021, 11:06:58 AM

The odds were disappointing but the strength of Tamil Nadu was evident throughout the tournament and it is a matter of time they life the trophy and congrats on placing the bet.

I followed your path, made a parlay which included South Africa women in cricket, BSC Young Boys and Napoli in soccer and a couple of Tennis matches which gave a odd of over 9 and had a great day in sports and waiting for a couple of NCAA Basketball matches to get over to calculate my total profit today Cheesy

. If there is domestic matches and if you are following them hope you will post your predictions Wink

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Such a one sided match... Anyway, congratulations to Manimaran Siddharth. Now he has got the attention of the selectors. And this couldn't come at a better time for him, as the IPL auction is about to take place in a few days time. Recently a lot of T20 spinners have emerged from Tamil Nadu, and Siddharth is just one of them. We already have Murugan Ashwin, Varun Chakravarthy and Washington Sundar as IPL stars.

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Quote from: JSRAW on January 31, 2021, 09:22:52 AM

Oh well fuck me...

now its 1.01 for TamilNadu... no bets sorry @SaShiRaJaVu

Dinesh Karthik surprised me when he included Manimaran Siddharth who is playing his first game in the tournament and it turned out to be a trump card as he troubled everyone and picked up 4 wickets and he went with 4 spinners in the final and it turned out to be the best decision.

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I placed a bet on Tamil Nadu to win the match and the odds were 1.5 and shout out to @SaShiRaJaVu for a detailed pick

The odds were disappointing but the strength of Tamil Nadu was evident throughout the tournament and it is a matter of time they life the trophy and congrats on placing the bet.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on January 31, 2021, 08:11:14 AM

LOL.. Natarajan is not taking any rest. The last time I heard, he was busy visiting all the temples in Tamil Nadu and doing strange rituals. He just posted this:

https://twitter.com/Natarajan_91/status/1355760220375420930

I am from Singapore and around 6%-7% of the population is made up of Tamils. But never noticed anyone shaving their head. So what is the reason? Is it mandatory to shave your head after something big happens in your life?

Not only Tamil, but most of the Indians also have such a habit.

Did you remember what happened that night when India lifted the world cup after 28 years in 2011? MSD did the same as well.

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Quote from: JSRAW on January 31, 2021, 09:22:52 AM

Oh well fuck me...
now its 1.01 for TamilNadu... no bets sorry @SaShiRaJaVu

I placed a bet on Tamil Nadu to win the match and the odds were 1.5 and shout out to @SaShiRaJaVu for a detailed pick and with the way things are going they will win the match easily as Baroda is struggling at 75 for the loss of 6 wickets and if they are able to score above 100 runs i do not think they can be competitive as @SaShiRaJaVu already mentioned they like to chase and hence i am confident of a win here.

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Quote from: JSRAW on January 31, 2021, 08:01:50 AM

I think Tamil Nadu dropped Murli Vijay for good and Vijay Shankar is already there in the squad.

There is a history between Dinesh Karthik and Murali Vijay and they will not play in the same team as long as Dinesh Karthik is the captain, Murali Vijay was having an illegal relation with Dinesh karthik's wife behind his back and so is the reason he divorced her and now the ex wife of Dinesh Karthik is the wife of Murali Vijay Cheesy

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Tamil Nadu is dominated the match and they could win the match, the pitch is helping the spinners.

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Quote from: JSRAW on January 30, 2021, 11:58:08 PM

Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on January 30, 2021, 04:27:08 AM

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on January 29, 2021, 10:57:31 AM

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Well we now have final tomorrow between Tamil Nadu vs Baroda. Bookies are favoring Tamil Nadu, @2.62 odds for Baroda. You seems to follow some games, any tips for finals? I don't mind betting small amount on your pick at least for final match.

Till the finals Baroda played really well, the batting is decent enough but their strength is their bowlers as they restricted teams even with sub par score. Toss is important, Tamil Nadu is comfortable in chasing as they have done throughout the tournament.

My pick is Tamil Nadu because they lost the last tournament for just one run and they are here in this tournament to win it and Dinesh Karthik is a really great captain and i really liked his tactical approach and how he manages the bowlers and giving them advice every delivery on where to bowl and giving them confidence even if they are hit for boundaries.

Thanks.. I looked into winner list and the last time they won the trophy was way back in 2006-07. Their opponent Baroda won 2 finals so far. Presence of DK in Tamil Nadu giving some confidence tho so will go with Tamil Nadu as well, odds are not encouraging atm so will wait for at least few overs before making any bets.

Oh well fuck me...

now its 1.01 for TamilNadu... no bets sorry @SaShiRaJaVu

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Quote from: JSRAW on January 31, 2021, 08:01:50 AM

Washington is in the Test Squad, you don't want any sort of injury before the England series (Ashwin is in test squad also). Natarajan deserve some rest, he's has been in bubble since August last year.

I think Tamil Nadu dropped Murli Vijay for good and Vijay Shankar is already there in the squad.

LOL.. Natarajan is not taking any rest. The last time I heard, he was busy visiting all the temples in Tamil Nadu and doing strange rituals. He just posted this:

https://twitter.com/Natarajan_91/status/1355760220375420930

I am from Singapore and around 6%-7% of the population is made up of Tamils. But never noticed anyone shaving their head. So what is the reason? Is it mandatory to shave your head after something big happens in your life?

BTW, good to hear that Vijay Shankar is in the TN squad. India is facing a shortage of pace-bowling all rounders and if this guy performs well, then he may be considered by the selectors.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on January 31, 2021, 07:41:32 AM

Around 1 hour to go for the SMA Trophy final. Apart from Dinesh Karthik, I can't find any big names participating in this match, which is quite disappointing. At least I expected emerging players such as T Natarajan, Washington Sundar.etc to take part. Tamil Nadu players such as R Ashwin, Murali Vijay, Vijay Shankar.etc used to take part regularly in the domestic tournaments, and I am not sure why they skipped this one.

Washington is in the Test Squad, you don't want any sort of injury before the England series (Ashwin is in test squad also). Natarajan deserve some rest, he's has been in bubble since August last year.

I think Tamil Nadu dropped Murli Vijay for good and Vijay Shankar is already there in the squad.

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Around 1 hour to go for the SMA Trophy final. Apart from Dinesh Karthik, I can't find any big names participating in this match, which is quite disappointing. At least I expected emerging players such as T Natarajan, Washington Sundar.etc to take part. Tamil Nadu players such as R Ashwin, Murali Vijay, Vijay Shankar.etc used to take part regularly in the domestic tournaments, and I am not sure why they skipped this one.

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