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It was a clean sweep during the ODI series and for me it looks as if the outcome of the T20I series won't be any different.

It was not a big surprise as i expected this outcome and Bangladesh never performs outside the subcontinent and any team coming to New Zealand will struggle unless they have the bowlers to counter the attack and normally the grounds are really small and as a spinner it is hard to contain the runs and it will be another clean sweep and the odds are not that great either.

Bangladesh is over-dependent on one or two players and they need to change this. On top of that, every now and then Shakib al Hasan seems to be having some issue with the Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB). And these internal disputes had a negative impact on the team stability and performance. But all that is not an excuse for their pathetic performance in New Zealand so far. Afterall, they are a test nation and the fans expect them to put up a strong fight.

Bangladesh managed to loss 30 matches consecutively. They have such countless issues, it's true they are very much dependent on two or three players and Shakib al Hasan is there backbone. I think what Bangladesh lacking is patience and concentration on the field. They have abilities yet every time failed seriously. You can see the statistics, their recent performance are not good enough but rather it's been downhill most recent two years.

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It was a clean sweep during the ODI series and for me it looks as if the outcome of the T20I series won't be any different.

It was not a big surprise as i expected this outcome and Bangladesh never performs outside the subcontinent and any team coming to New Zealand will struggle unless they have the bowlers to counter the attack and normally the grounds are really small and as a spinner it is hard to contain the runs and it will be another clean sweep and the odds are not that great either.

Bangladesh is over-dependent on one or two players and they need to change this. On top of that, every now and then Shakib al Hasan seems to be having some issue with the Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB). And these internal disputes had a negative impact on the team stability and performance. But all that is not an excuse for their pathetic performance in New Zealand so far. Afterall, they are a test nation and the fans expect them to put up a strong fight.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 27, 2021, 10:15:27 PM

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It was a clean sweep during the ODI series and for me it looks as if the outcome of the T20I series won't be any different.

It was not a big surprise as i expected this outcome and Bangladesh never performs outside the subcontinent and any team coming to New Zealand will struggle unless they have the bowlers to counter the attack and normally the grounds are really small and as a spinner it is hard to contain the runs and it will be another clean sweep and the odds are not that great either.

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^^^ Shreyas Iyer is neither a very senior member of the team nor he is one of Kohli's favorites. So there is no guaranteed slot for him in the playing XI. If he is fit enough to play in the IPL, then he need to do that. It can have a huge financial impact on him as well. His contract with the Delhi Capitals is worth $980,000 per year and if he is unable to play then he need to forfeit all this amount (which I really doubt he can afford).

Yes, you are right he does not fall under the good books of Kohli but does that matter he still got selected for the national team. He will not be playing this series because of his injury. It is a serious injury and as per the news on ESPNcricinfo, he will be missing IPL 2021. This means he will have to forego the amount that he was earning from IPL. But as he is part of the BCCI C team he still will get paid this year a good amount. Till last year he was getting paid INR 1CR annually which is 10 million USD. You can find out pay details here

LOL.. it is not 10 million USD, but 10 million INR, which translates to $133,333. This is roughly one-eighth of what he receive for playing in the IPL for less than two months. Also, the peak period for a cricketer lasts only for 4-5 years and he need to earn as much as possible during this period. If he misses the entire season of the IPL, then it will be a big financial blow for him. Hopefully he'll be declared fit within the next few weeks.

We cannot do anything as it is confirmed he will be missing out of IPL. If we talk about earnings of an average cricket player in India it far better than global players. Yes, he will lose his IPL earning but I am sure he is more intrested in being part of the Indian A team.

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Quote from: ene1980 on March 27, 2021, 06:42:49 PM

I find it hard to see a competitive match between Bangladesh and New Zealand until New Zealand give opportunity to the young players and rest the established players. It is not an easy task for top teams to defeat New Zealand in their ground and Bangladesh is not having success outside the subcontinent and if the pitch is not helping their spinners they usually struggle badly.

Another massive score was put up by New Zealand (210/3) and the chances are very low for Bangladesh. Apart from Nasum Ahmed, all the other Bangladesh bowlers went for more than 10 runs per over. The Bangladesh bowlers seems to be clueless on how to bowl in New Zealand ground conditions. Devon Conway came so close to another century, but he couldn't get it (92 not out). It was a clean sweep during the ODI series and for me it looks as if the outcome of the T20I series won't be any different.

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Quote from: vella85 on March 27, 2021, 04:19:46 PM

Today starts the first T20 match between New Zealand and Bangladesh. I hope we see a more competitive T20 series then the ODI series which New Zealand won easily. The good thing with T20 cricket is that is some what more even and even though Bangladesh had a poor ODI series they can bounce back in this series. I still think New Zealand will win the series but hopefully its more evenly matched between the two teams.

I find it hard to see a competitive match between Bangladesh and New Zealand until New Zealand give opportunity to the young players and rest the established players. It is not an easy task for top teams to defeat New Zealand in their ground and Bangladesh is not having success outside the subcontinent and if the pitch is not helping their spinners they usually struggle badly.

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Today starts the first T20 match between New Zealand and Bangladesh. I hope we see a more competitive T20 series then the ODI series which New Zealand won easily. The good thing with T20 cricket is that is some what more even and even though Bangladesh had a poor ODI series they can bounce back in this series. I still think New Zealand will win the series but hopefully its more evenly matched between the two teams.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 25, 2021, 11:03:23 PM

^^^ Shreyas Iyer is neither a very senior member of the team nor he is one of Kohli's favorites. So there is no guaranteed slot for him in the playing XI. If he is fit enough to play in the IPL, then he need to do that. It can have a huge financial impact on him as well. His contract with the Delhi Capitals is worth $980,000 per year and if he is unable to play then he need to forfeit all this amount (which I really doubt he can afford).

Yes, you are right he does not fall under the good books of Kohli but does that matter he still got selected for the national team. He will not be playing this series because of his injury. It is a serious injury and as per the news on ESPNcricinfo, he will be missing IPL 2021. This means he will have to forego the amount that he was earning from IPL. But as he is part of the BCCI C team he still will get paid this year a good amount. Till last year he was getting paid INR 1CR annually which is 10 million USD. You can find out pay details here

LOL.. it is not 10 million USD, but 10 million INR, which translates to $133,333. This is roughly one-eighth of what he receive for playing in the IPL for less than two months. Also, the peak period for a cricketer lasts only for 4-5 years and he need to earn as much as possible during this period. If he misses the entire season of the IPL, then it will be a big financial blow for him. Hopefully he'll be declared fit within the next few weeks.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 25, 2021, 11:03:23 PM

^^^ Shreyas Iyer is neither a very senior member of the team nor he is one of Kohli's favorites. So there is no guaranteed slot for him in the playing XI. If he is fit enough to play in the IPL, then he need to do that. It can have a huge financial impact on him as well. His contract with the Delhi Capitals is worth $980,000 per year and if he is unable to play then he need to forfeit all this amount (which I really doubt he can afford).

Yes, you are right he does not fall under the good books of Kohli but does that matter he still got selected for the national team. He will not be playing this series because of his injury. It is a serious injury and as per the news on ESPNcricinfo, he will be missing IPL 2021. This means he will have to forego the amount that he was earning from IPL. But as he is part of the BCCI C team he still will get paid this year a good amount. Till last year he was getting paid INR 1CR annually which is 10 million USD. You can find out pay details here

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^^^ Shreyas Iyer is neither a very senior member of the team nor he is one of Kohli's favorites. So there is no guaranteed slot for him in the playing XI. If he is fit enough to play in the IPL, then he need to do that. It can have a huge financial impact on him as well. His contract with the Delhi Capitals is worth $980,000 per year and if he is unable to play then he need to forfeit all this amount (which I really doubt he can afford).

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Oh boy entire IPL? Not looking good, recently Lancashire also signed him for their upcoming ODI domestic season so would be good if he recover soon, he need practice games for England tour as well. Hope for the best.

I think it will be better for him to skip the IPL for this season, even if he is declared fit for the last round of matches. Right now Shreyas need to concentrate on his role with the national team. His target should be to replace Virat Kohli as the Indian captain after 3-4 years. Among the younger players in the Indian team, I believe that Shreays is the person who is most suitable for this job. So my opinion is that he should give a lower priority to IPL right now.

@bryant.coleman if he’s declared fit then he’ll have to play in IPL and perform in it, otherwise he’ll lose out on a spot for the playing 11 in the upcoming T20 World Cup. Also I feel that Pant could be a contender too for captaining the team, as he’s full of energy and has a stylish personality which I feel will help him communicate effectively with the team.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 25, 2021, 01:38:25 AM

Oh boy entire IPL? Not looking good, recently Lancashire also signed him for their upcoming ODI domestic season so would be good if he recover soon, he need practice games for England tour as well. Hope for the best.

I think it will be better for him to skip the IPL for this season, even if he is declared fit for the last round of matches. Right now Shreyas need to concentrate on his role with the national team. His target should be to replace Virat Kohli as the Indian captain after 3-4 years. Among the younger players in the Indian team, I believe that Shreays is the person who is most suitable for this job. So my opinion is that he should give a lower priority to IPL right now.

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Quote from: Haunebu on March 24, 2021, 04:52:42 PM

Huge blow to DC sadly. Hope he recovers properly soon. This could probably affect their chances of winning IPL 2021 in my opinion.

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Iyer took over the mantle from Gambhir and did a fantastic job which is why his presence as the captain will be missed. Am expecting Ashwin or Smith to lead the team in his absence.

Oh boy entire IPL? Not looking good, recently Lancashire also signed him for their upcoming ODI domestic season so would be good if he recover soon, he need practice games for England tour as well. Hope for the best.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 24, 2021, 02:13:08 PM

What makes those 3 cricketing nations more deserving than Zimbabwe? They all looks same to me as far as performance goes, Zim arguably comes at top when comparing them.

And again its not BCCI job to entertain every associate members.

They may not deserve more. But they don't deserve less. Anyway, this argument has nothing to do with the BCCI. Test status is decided by the ICC and the BCCI has not much say on such decisions. The issue props up because Zimbabwe receives $94 million for the 8-year cycle, but the smaller teams receive less than $1 million for this duration. I don't think that there is anything that could justify such a difference in funding between various countries. If Zimbabwe was a high-income generating country for the ICC, then it could have been justified.

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Huge blow to DC sadly. Hope he recovers properly soon. This could probably affect their chances of winning IPL 2021 in my opinion.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.timesofindia.com/sports/cricket/england-in-india/shreyas-iyer-out-of-england-odis-to-miss-entire-ipl-too/amp_articleshow/81670858.cms

Iyer took over the mantle from Gambhir and did a fantastic job which is why his presence as the captain will be missed. Am expecting Ashwin or Smith to lead the team in his absence.

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If every board started thinking like that then there would be no international cricket. Only BIG 3 and couple of more nations would play dandiya with each other every now and then.

Having said that i am in favor of quadrilateral and trilateral series instead of bilateral. One sided or not, doesn't matter as long as its helping with the scheduling.

But why Zimbabwe, when there are more deserving sides out there? Why India and the other big 3 nations need to play against Zimbabwe, when they never give that opportunity to the smaller teams. If the BCCI can organize a tour of 3 T20Is and 3 ODIs against Zimbabwe, then why can't they give just one game to Nepal, Kenya or Papua New Guinea? Even that one game would be life changer for these countries.

The last time India has played against Kenya was in 2004. And India have never played against Nepal or PNG. On the other hand, India and Zimbabwe have played against each other in ODI a total of 63 times.

What makes those 3 cricketing nations more deserving than Zimbabwe? They all looks same to me as far as performance goes, Zim arguably comes at top when comparing them.

And again its not BCCI job to entertain every associate members.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 24, 2021, 12:06:36 PM

If every board started thinking like that then there would be no international cricket. Only BIG 3 and couple of more nations would play dandiya with each other every now and then.

Having said that i am in favor of quadrilateral and trilateral series instead of bilateral. One sided or not, doesn't matter as long as its helping with the scheduling.

But why Zimbabwe, when there are more deserving sides out there? Why India and the other big 3 nations need to play against Zimbabwe, when they never give that opportunity to the smaller teams. If the BCCI can organize a tour of 3 T20Is and 3 ODIs against Zimbabwe, then why can't they give just one game to Nepal, Kenya or Papua New Guinea? Even that one game would be life changer for these countries.

The last time India has played against Kenya was in 2004. And India have never played against Nepal or PNG. On the other hand, India and Zimbabwe have played against each other in ODI a total of 63 times.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on March 23, 2021, 11:54:28 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on March 23, 2021, 08:49:10 AM

BCCI can't entertain every Test playing nation and every associate member. Indian team schedule is already jam packed in every calendar year, they can't play with everyone. All they can do is support some boards, which they are already doing.

Only possible solution i can find is, organize 16-20 teams T-20 World cup.

There is no point in organizing bilateral series against countries such as Zimbabwe. I guess it has more to do with politics rather than cricket. The BCCI needs some votes in various ICC elections and that is the reason why they are giving a few lollipops to teams such as Zimbabwe. But I really don't understand what the Indian team will gain from such one-sided matches. A few million USD in revenue will be generated inside Zimbabwe, and most of it will be stolen by the corrupt administrators.

If every board started thinking like that then there would be no international cricket. Only BIG 3 and couple of more nations would play dandiya with each other every now and then.

Having said that i am in favor of quadrilateral and trilateral series instead of bilateral. One sided or not, doesn't matter as long as its helping with the scheduling.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 23, 2021, 08:49:10 AM

BCCI can't entertain every Test playing nation and every associate member. Indian team schedule is already jam packed in every calendar year, they can't play with everyone. All they can do is support some boards, which they are already doing.

Only possible solution i can find is, organize 16-20 teams T-20 World cup.

There is no point in organizing bilateral series against countries such as Zimbabwe. I guess it has more to do with politics rather than cricket. The BCCI needs some votes in various ICC elections and that is the reason why they are giving a few lollipops to teams such as Zimbabwe. But I really don't understand what the Indian team will gain from such one-sided matches. A few million USD in revenue will be generated inside Zimbabwe, and most of it will be stolen by the corrupt administrators.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 22, 2021, 10:23:06 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on March 22, 2021, 05:07:15 PM

I doubt that because financially it would be really bad for countries like Afg, Ban, SL, Zim. When Indian team tour someone they also bring big fat checks for the host nations so all these extra tours are part of the eco system. But yeah 2-3 big players should rest, especially Bumrah and Kohli and i'm sure they will.

Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe receive annual payments from the ICC ranging from $12 million to $15 million. Afghanistan was promoted to the test status relatively recently, so they receive a smaller payment. From these numbers, the financial situation looks very comfortable for these cricket boards. It is the smaller cricket boards (Netherlands, Nepal, Scotland, Kenya.etc) which are facing financial crunch, because they receive very small payments from the ICC.

BCCI can't entertain every Test playing nation and every associate member. Indian team schedule is already jam packed in every calendar year, they can't play with everyone. All they can do is support some boards, which they are already doing.

Only possible solution i can find is, organize 16-20 teams T-20 World cup.

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