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The Ban on Chinese products will be done in a phased manner. India cannot ban all items in one go, they have already banned a lot of Chinese apps, big infrastructure contracts have been cancelled and now the government is planning to ban Chinese telecommunication products.

By year-end most Chinese products will either get banned or these Chinese companies will have to sell their Indian business to indian companies.

I am not sure how beneficial this is going to be. Because Chinese companies were investing a lot of money in to various sectors in India. They were willing to take up infrastructural projects, at a much lower cost when compared to the other foreign engineering companies. Take the case of BCCI. They have now lost a deal which was worth ₹2,200 crore. The largest bid made by a non-Chinese brand was less than half of that amount.

So, for cheap price should Indians sell their country, I do not think so and it will never happen. As US and other European countries join the league of banning Chinese apps and products, CCP will have to think twice before they go for an aggressive stand.

Now, after VIVO moving out vokuntarily from IPL sponsorship. I feel the CCP would rethink their strategy for India.
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India, didn't ban any Chinese products, they only banned Apps but I heard that import taxes for some Chinese products are increased after the issue but this is going to affect the people only since we are the consumer so extra price will be on the head of the people in India.And actually India can't ban any Chinese products most of the electronics goods used all around the world was manufactured in China even if it is not a Chinese company so India need to build their own brands before banning others.

Recently a ban was imposed on some of the items, such as TV screens. This served two purposes - first, the market share of Chinese screens went down. And secondly, the Indian-made TV screens now got a monopoly in the market. But it is not practical to completely ban the Chinese brands. For example, Vivo was paying ₹2,200 crore for the five-year old deal with the BCCI. The second highest bid was also from a Chinese brand (Oppo) and that was worth ₹1,430 crore. Bids from all the other brands were lower than this amount. BCCI is going to lose a lot of money as a result of the Vivo pullout.

The Ban on Chinese products will be done in a phased manner. India cannot ban all items in one go, they have already banned a lot of Chinese apps, big infrastructure contracts have been cancelled and now the government is planning to ban Chinese telecommunication products.

By year-end most Chinese products will either get banned or these Chinese companies will have to sell their Indian business to indian companies.
I don't think so, the products will be banned because we don't even have alternative products which can match their price that is why people and companies prefer China as a land to manufacture things. Maybe in a five year time this can be possible if Indian companies starts to build successful companies but it is not also possible due to Indian taxation system that is why companies move to other countries when they want to establish a company.
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The Ban on Chinese products will be done in a phased manner. India cannot ban all items in one go, they have already banned a lot of Chinese apps, big infrastructure contracts have been cancelled and now the government is planning to ban Chinese telecommunication products.

By year-end most Chinese products will either get banned or these Chinese companies will have to sell their Indian business to indian companies.

I am not sure how beneficial this is going to be. Because Chinese companies were investing a lot of money in to various sectors in India. They were willing to take up infrastructural projects, at a much lower cost when compared to the other foreign engineering companies. Take the case of BCCI. They have now lost a deal which was worth ₹2,200 crore. The largest bid made by a non-Chinese brand was less than half of that amount.
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About Vivo sponsorship....

Unofficial news is Vivo already pulled out as a sponsor from the IPL. BCCI had no authority to cancel the deal due to signed contract otherwise VIVO could have sue BCCI easily, if rumors are correct then BCCI-VIVO mutually came into conclusion of cancelling the deal.
Did India ban all the goods from China, heard that some of the Chinese application are banned but not heard about any products or imports ban, if there is a blanket ban on all the Chinese products then there is no point for VIVO to advertise if they are not able to sell the products, it is true that BCCI cannot cancel a deal as they can drag them in court.


Not Blanket bans as its not logical, India has long way to go and its not an easy road.
- Restrictions on venture investment and virtually no Chinese participation/partnership in infrastructure, telecom projects.
- CAIT (The  Confederation of All India Traders) bringing down the imports from China to $13B by 2021. Not easy task but if there is a will, there is a way. As of now they are targeting 3000 products and start manufacture locally which is very much possible with extra push. Dependency on China is not sane option anyway and trade deficit is not favoring India, not even balanced so this move could help Indian cause.

Well if someone violates a written contract then they deserve to get sue, no matter who they are and it happens from time to time, so yeah.....

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India, didn't ban any Chinese products, they only banned Apps but I heard that import taxes for some Chinese products are increased after the issue but this is going to affect the people only since we are the consumer so extra price will be on the head of the people in India.And actually India can't ban any Chinese products most of the electronics goods used all around the world was manufactured in China even if it is not a Chinese company so India need to build their own brands before banning others.

Recently a ban was imposed on some of the items, such as TV screens. This served two purposes - first, the market share of Chinese screens went down. And secondly, the Indian-made TV screens now got a monopoly in the market. But it is not practical to completely ban the Chinese brands. For example, Vivo was paying ₹2,200 crore for the five-year old deal with the BCCI. The second highest bid was also from a Chinese brand (Oppo) and that was worth ₹1,430 crore. Bids from all the other brands were lower than this amount. BCCI is going to lose a lot of money as a result of the Vivo pullout.

The Ban on Chinese products will be done in a phased manner. India cannot ban all items in one go, they have already banned a lot of Chinese apps, big infrastructure contracts have been cancelled and now the government is planning to ban Chinese telecommunication products.

By year-end most Chinese products will either get banned or these Chinese companies will have to sell their Indian business to indian companies.
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India, didn't ban any Chinese products, they only banned Apps but I heard that import taxes for some Chinese products are increased after the issue but this is going to affect the people only since we are the consumer so extra price will be on the head of the people in India.And actually India can't ban any Chinese products most of the electronics goods used all around the world was manufactured in China even if it is not a Chinese company so India need to build their own brands before banning others.

Recently a ban was imposed on some of the items, such as TV screens. This served two purposes - first, the market share of Chinese screens went down. And secondly, the Indian-made TV screens now got a monopoly in the market. But it is not practical to completely ban the Chinese brands. For example, Vivo was paying ₹2,200 crore for the five-year old deal with the BCCI. The second highest bid was also from a Chinese brand (Oppo) and that was worth ₹1,430 crore. Bids from all the other brands were lower than this amount. BCCI is going to lose a lot of money as a result of the Vivo pullout.
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About Vivo sponsorship....

Unofficial news is Vivo already pulled out as a sponsor from the IPL. BCCI had no authority to cancel the deal due to signed contract otherwise VIVO could have sue BCCI easily, if rumors are correct then BCCI-VIVO mutually came into conclusion of cancelling the deal.
Did India ban all the goods from China, heard that some of the Chinese application are banned but not heard about any products or imports ban, if there is a blanket ban on all the Chinese products then there is no point for VIVO to advertise if they are not able to sell the products, it is true that BCCI cannot cancel a deal as they can drag them in court.

India, didn't ban any Chinese products, they only banned Apps but I heard that import taxes for some Chinese products are increased after the issue but this is going to affect the people only since we are the consumer so extra price will be on the head of the people in India.And actually India can't ban any Chinese products most of the electronics goods used all around the world was manufactured in China even if it is not a Chinese company so India need to build their own brands before banning others.
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About Vivo sponsorship....

Unofficial news is Vivo already pulled out as a sponsor from the IPL. BCCI had no authority to cancel the deal due to signed contract otherwise VIVO could have sue BCCI easily, if rumors are correct then BCCI-VIVO mutually came into conclusion of cancelling the deal.
Did India ban all the goods from China, heard that some of the Chinese application are banned but not heard about any products or imports ban, if there is a blanket ban on all the Chinese products then there is no point for VIVO to advertise if they are not able to sell the products, it is true that BCCI cannot cancel a deal as they can drag them in court.
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About Vivo sponsorship....

Unofficial news is Vivo already pulled out as a sponsor from the IPL. BCCI had no authority to cancel the deal due to signed contract otherwise VIVO could have sue BCCI easily, if rumors are correct then BCCI-VIVO mutually came into conclusion of cancelling the deal.
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The BCCI may be able to find another sponsor

The BCCI can easily find a sponsor, IPL is not a small domestic tournament, it is an international tournament that has a fanbase and viewship across the globe.

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I don't think that it is possible for the BCCI to unilaterally cancel this deal, unless they reach a compromise with Vivo. Also, other sponsors may not be willing to pay this much for the IPL sponsorship.

The deal can easily be cancelled! but, Why should BCCI cancel it? when BCCI is bringing in Chinese money to India and not sending Indian money to China.

Those who are opposing this deal are basically contradicting the narrative.


The sponsorship is mainly for advertisement purpose so India is really advertising a Chinese brand all over the world which means China is going to make the invested money from all over the world so which is kind of reason for people opposing it.
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The deal can easily be cancelled! but, Why should BCCI cancel it? when BCCI is the only is bringing in Chinese money to India and not sending it to China.

You have a point there. But the political parties in India are using this opportunity to take sides. Vivo is a Chinese brand, but the sponsorship is being given by Vivo India, which is based in India. This is a mutually beneficial relationship, as Vivo is paying much more than what the other brands would pay. Now the competitors of Vivo are indulging in cheap tactics, as they are unable to compete directly.
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The BCCI may be able to find another sponsor

The BCCI can easily find a sponsor, IPL is not a small domestic tournament, it is an international tournament that has a fanbase and viewship across the globe.

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I don't think that it is possible for the BCCI to unilaterally cancel this deal, unless they reach a compromise with Vivo. Also, other sponsors may not be willing to pay this much for the IPL sponsorship.

The deal can easily be cancelled! but, Why should BCCI cancel it? when BCCI is bringing in Chinese money to India and not sending Indian money to China.

Those who are opposing this deal are basically contradicting the narrative.

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I bet it won't, when it comes to entertainment people won't take the political things into it and I don't know why we want to boycott IPL, if we really want then boycott Vivo then they won't sponsor the IPL in the coming years.Remember BCCI is trying to make the IPL possible for revenue reasons that is why they retained the sponsorship as well.

The BCCI may be able to find another sponsor, but the deal between them and the BCCI is for the period of 2018-2022 (worth somewhere around ₹2,200 crore). I don't think that it is possible for the BCCI to unilaterally cancel this deal, unless they reach a compromise with Vivo. Also, other sponsors may not be willing to pay this much for the IPL sponsorship.
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If you look at other sports the viewership are breaking records as there is no other contents to watch and you think that the viewership in India will drop because they retain Chinese brands as sponsors Cheesy. One more month and we will see that these concepts were wrong as people who love cricket will watch the matches irrespective of the political struggle and i wont be surprised if viewership records are higher than last years.
Higher than previous years? I doubt it. Get your facts right.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.economictimes.com/industry/media/entertainment/tv-viewership-sports-loss-is-news-genres-gain-in-first-half-of-2020/amp_articleshow/76877675.cms

In a country like India where Cricket is very popular, you can clearly see the slump in ratings whereas new ratings rose dramatically for obvious reasons. Chinese brands boycott will probably impact these ratings even further.
I bet it won't, when it comes to entertainment people won't take the political things into it and I don't know why we want to boycott IPL, if we really want then boycott Vivo then they won't sponsor the IPL in the coming years.Remember BCCI is trying to make the IPL possible for revenue reasons that is why they retained the sponsorship as well.
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If you look at other sports the viewership are breaking records as there is no other contents to watch and you think that the viewership in India will drop because they retain Chinese brands as sponsors Cheesy. One more month and we will see that these concepts were wrong as people who love cricket will watch the matches irrespective of the political struggle and i wont be surprised if viewership records are higher than last years.

India is a cricket crazy nation and there has been no action involving the local teams for the last 4-5 months. On top of that, a lot of people are now sitting at home because of lockdown restrictions. These two factors can propel the IPL viewership to all time high figures. And regarding the contentious issue of sponsorship by the Chinese corporations, I am sure that the BCCI will come up with some eyewash a few days before the tournament starts (such as a large donation to the make in India platform, or towards the armed forces).
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Higher than previous years? I doubt it. Get your facts right.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.economictimes.com/industry/media/entertainment/tv-viewership-sports-loss-is-news-genres-gain-in-first-half-of-2020/amp_articleshow/76877675.cms

In a country like India where Cricket is very popular, you can clearly see the slump in ratings whereas new ratings rose dramatically for obvious reasons. Chinese brands boycott will probably impact these ratings even further.
Are you not seeing the obvious, since you asked me to get my facts right, what is the article you posted says ? People are watching news content and the viewership increased for news channels because there is no sports content, is it that hard to understand the basic structure of this news  Roll Eyes.
I bet people are waiting for cricket to resume and then watch the article once again and then you will understand the obvious logical situation Tongue.
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If you look at other sports the viewership are breaking records as there is no other contents to watch and you think that the viewership in India will drop because they retain Chinese brands as sponsors Cheesy. One more month and we will see that these concepts were wrong as people who love cricket will watch the matches irrespective of the political struggle and i wont be surprised if viewership records are higher than last years.
Higher than previous years? I doubt it. Get your facts right.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.economictimes.com/industry/media/entertainment/tv-viewership-sports-loss-is-news-genres-gain-in-first-half-of-2020/amp_articleshow/76877675.cms

In a country like India where Cricket is very popular, you can clearly see the slump in ratings whereas new ratings rose dramatically for obvious reasons. Chinese brands boycott will probably impact these ratings even further.
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IPL 2020 is already under heavy scrutiny guys though I don't really care about them retaining Chinese brands to be honest. Viewership figures will probably drop because of this move.
If you look at other sports the viewership are breaking records as there is no other contents to watch and you think that the viewership in India will drop because they retain Chinese brands as sponsors Cheesy. One more month and we will see that these concepts were wrong as people who love cricket will watch the matches irrespective of the political struggle and i wont be surprised if viewership records are higher than last years.
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@Royse777 & Others, Now that IPL has been confirmed to be held from September 19 to November 10, shall we have an IPL pool as we did with PSL?
Sorry guys, not much into these threads these days since there are not much cricket but this is great news. I have not read much but IPL is starting is the biggest news in the last few months for me.

Yes we will have the pool and let's continue discussion about it in the thread for IPL: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ipl-mutual-pool-discussion-5209354

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IPL 2020 is already under heavy scrutiny guys though I don't really care about them retaining Chinese brands to be honest. Viewership figures will probably drop because of this move.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news18.com/amp/news/buzz/shame-on-you-fans-want-to-boycott-ipl-2020-as-chinese-sponsors-retained-in-cricket-carnival-2752341.html

Aye......
@Royse777 let's finalize the pool fees etc, 45 days should be enough for everyone to discuss/agree on joining fees or other rules if necessary.
Mutual pool huh? Cool. Enjoyed the previous editions though I ended up in the middle of the table by the end of the tournament, but had a ton of fun. Would definitely join as long as everything goes as planned.
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