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Quote from: JSRAW on August 03, 2020, 02:54:14 AM

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@Royse777 & Others, Now that IPL has been confirmed to be held from September 19 to November 10, shall we have an IPL pool as we did with PSL?

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@Royse777 let's finalize the pool fees etc, 45 days should be enough for everyone to discuss/agree on joining fees or other rules if necessary.

@ Vishnu.Reang Like you said "lollypop" Lips sealed

@JSRAW what were the fees last year round as I’m keen to participate, but I can’t really guarantee if I’ll be able to participate this year due to covid ruining my income. However if it’s upto $10 I may just try to join in, but once again I’m sorry as I cannot commit anything at this stage, however I’ll definitely be watching your announcements out here.

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Quote from: akhjob on August 02, 2020, 12:20:57 PM

@Royse777 & Others, Now that IPL has been confirmed to be held from September 19 to November 10, shall we have an IPL pool as we did with PSL?

Aye......
@Royse777 let's finalize the pool fees etc, 45 days should be enough for everyone to discuss/agree on joining fees or other rules if necessary.

@ Vishnu.Reang Like you said "lollypop" Lips sealed

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 03, 2020, 12:24:05 AM

They are planning for 3 teams and a total of 4 matches. This is just an eyewash. What I would like to see is a full-fledged team with a proper league and not this sort of exhibition matches. They can start with 3-4 teams, but these teams can play against each other for a total of 6-8 matches per team. I don't understand how this proposal of exhibition matches can be beneficial for the women cricketers.

These players need match practice when you are sitting idle for months and you can practice but you need to be in a competitive match even as exhibition to get the confidence and that is the reason they are making these matches, earlier they can tour a country and they will put up some warm up matches but now with the corona situation you cannot expect to have warm up matches and hence they need to put exhibition matches.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 02, 2020, 08:30:33 AM

^^ If i am not wrong they are organizing WIPL at same time as WBBL right? sounds stupid decision from the BCCI/Ganguly if true, considering Women cricket already have limited viewership and both tournament competing with each others.

As far as I know, what they call as the "Women's IPL" is not a full fledged league. This is what I could find from the media:

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"Women’s T20 Challenge will also take place in the UAE and will comprise three teams with four matches to be played during the IPL Playoff week," the statement read. "A meeting with the franchises will be called shortly."

They are planning for 3 teams and a total of 4 matches. This is just an eyewash. What I would like to see is a full-fledged team with a proper league and not this sort of exhibition matches. They can start with 3-4 teams, but these teams can play against each other for a total of 6-8 matches per team. I don't understand how this proposal of exhibition matches can be beneficial for the women cricketers.

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@Royse777 & Others, Now that IPL has been confirmed to be held from September 19 to November 10, shall we have an IPL pool as we did with PSL?

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 02, 2020, 03:50:02 AM

Ah now only Geoffrey boycott and Bhogle remains in this list (include Michael Holding as well). I really hope this trio + Nasser Hussain get commentary contract when England visiting India next year, not sure about Geoffrey boycott tho as he's getting old.

Geoffrey Boycott might not travel as he is getting old, is Bhogle still in the fixture as i do not remember him commentating for a long time, Michael Holding and Nasser Hussain will be travelling.

There was some news that Micheal Holding thinking of retirement from the commentary due to personal reasons (early 2021). If not then he might visit as he has contract with the Sky sports. Harsha has IPL contract from the BCCI, not sure about the Test format tho.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 02, 2020, 03:50:02 AM

If rumors are right then Sanjay got fired due to his remarks on R.Jadeja/team Main reason , there might have some other factors too which no one knows for sure.

The reason is the remarks by Sanjay Manjrekar targeting Ravindra Jadeja for a few series, mocking his three triple centuries in by comparing the low standard of Indian domestic cricket and the fact remains that Jadeja is the only player in the history of Indian first class cricket to score three triple centuries and during the World Cup he was yet again criticizing his inclusion in the team calling him bits and peace player and Jadeja had enough and he responded and then the Indian team complained it to the BCCI and hence he was removed.

Not surprising....

BCCI has a bad reputation of removing commentators due to very same reasons, they did the same thing with the likes of Gavaskar and Harsha bhogle.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 02, 2020, 03:50:02 AM

If rumors are right then Sanjay got fired due to his remarks on R.Jadeja/team Main reason , there might have some other factors too which no one knows for sure.

The reason is the remarks by Sanjay Manjrekar targeting Ravindra Jadeja for a few series, mocking his three triple centuries by comparing the low standard of Indian domestic cricket and the fact remains that Jadeja is the only player in the history of Indian first class cricket to score three triple centuries and during the World Cup he was yet again criticizing his inclusion in the team calling him bits and peace player and Jadeja had enough and he responded and then the Indian team complained it to the BCCI and hence he was removed.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 02, 2020, 03:50:02 AM

Ah now only Geoffrey boycott and Bhogle remains in this list (include Michael Holding as well). I really hope this trio + Nasser Hussain get commentary contract when England visiting India next year, not sure about Geoffrey boycott tho as he's getting old.

Geoffrey Boycott might not travel as he is getting old, is Bhogle still in the fixture as i do not remember him commentating for a long time, Michael Holding and Nasser Hussain will be travelling.

Good news for IPL fans, i saw a report that the Indian government has given the green signal for the IPL to be conducted in UAE and the tournament date is fixed on September 19 till November 10 , 24 members per squad and they are allowed to have unlimited substitute if any players is tested positive.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 02, 2020, 08:30:33 AM

^^ If i am not wrong they are organizing WIPL at same time as WBBL right? sounds stupid decision from the BCCI/Ganguly if true, considering Women cricket already have limited viewership and both tournament competing with each others.

Women's Cricket over the years have gained more importance. Now such a plan is good from my view, because more number of women players from India gets identified. When IPL started there were similar talks, what's the need for such a league. Later it got to be one among the top leagues played. Same as that WIPL might get more support.

Women's cricket never got support like men's cricket, there are only one or two matches will be conducted even if there is some league matches for women.But certainly we can see some growth all over the world for women's cricket but the cricket boards are not ready to spend money for their development activities.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 02, 2020, 08:30:33 AM

^^ If i am not wrong they are organizing WIPL at same time as WBBL right? sounds stupid decision from the BCCI/Ganguly if true, considering Women cricket already have limited viewership and both tournament competing with each others.

Women's Cricket over the years have gained more importance. Now such a plan is good from my view, because more number of women players from India gets identified. When IPL started there were similar talks, what's the need for such a league. Later it got to be one among the top leagues played. Same as that WIPL might get more support.

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^^ If i am not wrong they are organizing WIPL at same time as WBBL right? sounds stupid decision from the BCCI/Ganguly if true, considering Women cricket already have limited viewership and both tournament competing with each others.

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Quote from: MFahad on August 02, 2020, 07:12:19 AM

BCCI and all the board focus mainly on the games which give good revenue and i don't think women matches are popular enough. In these times of covid19, they should only focus on men's matches and women matches should be postponed.

Postponed? There is no WIPL to be postponed. The BCCI usually allows a few exhibition matches in between the IPL and that's it. The women's cricketers have been requesting them to start a tournament, but till now the BCCI have ignored their demands. Obviously if they start a tournament, it is not going to benefit them in financial terms. But they need to do something for the women's cricketers, who get paid only a fraction of what the men are getting.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 02, 2020, 07:01:10 AM

The BCCI is once again giving some lollipops to the women cricketers. Check here:

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/29581951/sourav-ganguly-women-t20-challenge-ipl-very-much-on

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BCCI president Sourav Ganguly on Sunday said the women's IPL or the Women's T20 Challenge, as it is better known, is "very much on". The men's IPL will be held between September 19 and November 8 or 10 in the UAE due to the surge in Covid-19 cases in India. The women's T20 matches will also be fit into the schedule, according to Ganguly.

He is trying to fool the women cricketers. What they need is a franchise T20 league, similar to the WBBL in Australia. What the BCCI is offering them is a few (2-3) exhibition matches in between the IPL schedule. This reluctance from the part of the BCCI is really surprising. If CA can sponsor a women's tournament, then why can't the BCCI do it? Initially they can go for a small tournament, with just 3-4 teams.

BCCI and all the board focus mainly on the games which give good revenue and i don't think women matches are popular enough. In these times of covid19, they should only focus on men's matches and women matches should be postponed.

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The BCCI is once again giving some lollipops to the women cricketers. Check here:

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/29581951/sourav-ganguly-women-t20-challenge-ipl-very-much-on

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BCCI president Sourav Ganguly on Sunday said the women's IPL or the Women's T20 Challenge, as it is better known, is "very much on". The men's IPL will be held between September 19 and November 8 or 10 in the UAE due to the surge in Covid-19 cases in India. The women's T20 matches will also be fit into the schedule, according to Ganguly.

He is trying to fool the women cricketers. What they need is a franchise T20 league, similar to the WBBL in Australia. What the BCCI is offering them is a few (2-3) exhibition matches in between the IPL schedule. This reluctance from the part of the BCCI is really surprising. If CA can sponsor a women's tournament, then why can't the BCCI do it? Initially they can go for a small tournament, with just 3-4 teams.

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Quote from: ene1980 on August 01, 2020, 05:43:49 PM

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Everyone including BCCI/Players needs to grow some thick skin, you shouldn't fire someone for criticizing your fav player or team, unless you want cheerleaders in the commentary box.

There were some classic world class commentators like Richie Benaud, John Arlott, Tony Grieg, Geoffrey Boycott and Harsha Bhogle which i liked and enjoyed and they were not cheerleaders but good commentators who captivate the audience sitting at home and that is what a good commentator should do. Not sure what the deal is with Sanjay but the viewers watching the game does not want a debate about the situation all the time but to hear the play by play.

Ah now only Geoffrey boycott and Bhogle remains in this list (include Michael Holding as well). I really hope this trio + Nasser Hussain get commentary contract when England visiting India next year, not sure about Geoffrey boycott tho as he's getting old.

If rumors are right then Sanjay got fired due to his remarks on R.Jadeja/team Main reason , there might have some other factors too which no one knows for sure.

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Quote from: BitSat19 on August 01, 2020, 04:51:42 PM

This is really shocking all was set to happen in UAE but suddenly they announces again that its going to be reviewed again so now we have to wait for next announcement from BCCI about this all but today I was reading that UAE authorities want 35% to 50% crowd will allow in every IPL match this is surely going to be more good for many peoples.

In countries such as England, they are allowing limited number of spectators (for the domestic matches). But 50% looks a bit high for me. There are practical issues. For example, what will happen if some of the batsmen hit the ball for a six and it lands among the spectators? Is it practical to disinfect the ball every time? It is going to be a time consuming process (or they can replace the ball), as we can expect a lot of boundaries to be hit in a tournament such as the IPL.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 31, 2020, 05:59:17 AM

So I guess everyone is busy with the IPL now. We were supposed to have the T20 World Cup in a few months time, but it was postponed by a year, so that the IPL can be played. In financial terms, I don't have any doubt that this was the best thing to do. But in the long-term, is this really beneficial? A franchise league is given preference over an ICC tournament, that too a World Cup.

Well even if the IPL was not going to be played, the world cup wouldn't either with the situation in Australia right now. The final was going to be played at the MCG in Melbourne but the virus is now out of control in that city and also cases are going up in Sydney and Brisbane which where a lot of games were going to be played. I would agree with you but with the situation in Australia the world cup would of been postponed anyway so lets just enjoy the IPL as at least we got some T20 cricket to watch even though I would prefer the world cup being played.

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Quote from: JSRAW on July 31, 2020, 05:49:01 AM

Everyone including BCCI/Players needs to grow some thick skin, you shouldn't fire someone for criticizing your fav player or team, unless you want cheerleaders in the commentary box.

There were some classic world class commentators like Richie Benaud, John Arlott, Tony Grieg, Geoffrey Boycott and Harsha Bhogle which i liked and enjoyed and they were not cheerleaders but good commentators who captivate the audience sitting at home and that is what a good commentator should do. Not sure what the deal is with Sanjay but the viewers watching the game does not want a debate about the situation all the time but to hear the play by play.

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Quote from: bitcoinisbest on July 31, 2020, 03:55:26 AM

What I do not like one think about him is that he is more of criticizer rather than appreciating the people. You can say something politely or if you were the top world class player yourself then yes you can command that about the game. But he way of speaking seems that he was the best batsman as such in his time which is not true, and this is what might be hurting to the upcoming players. This demoralizes the player as well.

This is a problem is see when Sanjay Manjrekar and Sunil Gavaskar criticize players for not playing their shots and counter attack if Virender Sehwag is making those comments we can understand but to sit in a commentary booth and then criticize players for showing their emotions and calling to suspend them i usually have a laugh while these players were rude to the umpires many times in their playing career and they were not stroke makers but defense based players. Cheesy

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Is there any official news about IPL happening? when it is going to be played!

They are still waiting for the gov clearance
https://www.timesnownews.com/sports/cricket/article/ipl-13-hoping-to-get-all-government-clearance-soon-bcci-official/630621

This is really shocking all was set to happen in UAE but suddenly they announces again that its going to be reviewed again so now we have to wait for next announcement from BCCI about this all but today I was reading that UAE authorities want 35% to 50% crowd will allow in every IPL match this is surely going to be more good for many peoples.

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