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Quote from: JSRAW on June 29, 2020, 07:53:11 PM

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West Indies and Pakistan are already setting their camps in England for test series or some limited overs cricket. How about ECB use this opportunity in their favor and come up with the one Triangular T-20 series? Eng vs WI vs Pak .. That would be great initiative.

So what is stopping them doing a triangular series, they have not scheduled any series and it is possible to set up an international tournament in a short period of time as i think it is a long process to get approval from the authorities and the visa status should be changed if they are to compete for a triangular series after reaching the shores of England, if there is no other tournaments scheduled up i would like to see that happen and hopefully the cricket board could sort the visa issues.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 29, 2020, 07:53:11 PM

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West Indies and Pakistan are already setting their camps in England for test series or some limited overs cricket. How about ECB use this opportunity in their favor and come up with the one Triangular T-20 series? Eng vs WI vs Pak .. That would be great initiative.

This is a great thought as it would be really fun as well to watch them playing against each other. T20 would be the real fun watching those WI players smashing the ball out of the park. And also, it would bring back smiles on our faces which we had being missing due to no matches in past 3 months. But can they setup it immediately or some prior permission might be required I guess so.

Yeah, they have all the time they need to conduct a small T20 tournament. All teams do not have any other games planned for the future as most tournaments have got cancelled. I do. It see any issue in conducting this tournament.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 29, 2020, 07:53:11 PM

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West Indies and Pakistan are already setting their camps in England for test series or some limited overs cricket. How about ECB use this opportunity in their favor and come up with the one Triangular T-20 series? Eng vs WI vs Pak .. That would be great initiative.

This is a great thought as it would be really fun as well to watch them playing against each other. T20 would be the real fun watching those WI players smashing the ball out of the park. And also, it would bring back smiles on our faces which we had being missing due to no matches in past 3 months. But can they setup it immediately or some prior permission might be required I guess so.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 29, 2020, 07:53:11 PM

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West Indies and Pakistan are already setting their camps in England for test series or some limited overs cricket. How about ECB use this opportunity in their favor and come up with the one Triangular T-20 series? Eng vs WI vs Pak .. That would be great initiative.

Excellent idea. This would be a lot more fun to watch when compared to watching the tests or ODI matches. However, I don't think they can change the schedule that easily unless all the boards cooperate.

I would especially love to watch the West Indian team play since it's the T-20 format. England are taking a big risk here by allowing foreigners into their country during these times and I hope it pays off.

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West Indies and Pakistan are already setting their camps in England for test series or some limited overs cricket. How about ECB use this opportunity in their favor and come up with the one Triangular T-20 series? Eng vs WI vs Pak .. That would be great initiative.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 29, 2020, 11:33:33 AM

Pakistan team has already reached England and till now there is no news of any additional infections. The entourage consists of 20 players and 11 non-playing staff. Even if any of them test positive later, I believe that PCB has taken enough precautions to avoid any community spread. All of them are using masks, and there is no physical contact with anyone outside the group.

It is a great news that Pakistan already reached England and hope everything goes smoothly as Cricket is the only sport to return after the pandemic while the rest of the major sports resumed and i really miss wagging a bet on some real games as i am wagging bets on T10 and eCricket all this while. I am sure they will be careful in avoiding outside contact but to be frank it is a really hard situation, just hoping for the best so that we would see other teams resuming the game.

Quote from: Haunebu on June 29, 2020, 03:37:46 PM

I never claimed that BCCI would collapse. I mentioned how corrupt they are which is why they won't just collapse out of the blue, but these constant issues have been hitting them hardly lately. Also, the COVID situation in India is getting worse every second.

May be, i am not following those and hence i cannot comment on the corruption, economy wise everyone is struggling not just India but the COVID situation will play a major role in resuming cricket in India as the situation is getting worse.

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Quote from: akhjob on June 28, 2020, 11:33:22 AM

Do you still think that VIVO sponsorship is a problem?

I do actually. This isn't a normal situation. The COVID situation has brought the economies of India and China down drastically which is why what seemed to be impossible before seems completely possible now.

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Are you claiming that BCCI has gone from the richest cricket body to loosing everything, what about the other cricket bodies during this period, there is no matches and everyone is suffering during this period and it is not a situation that is enforced on BCCI alone and with the sponsorship issue, they will get a thousand other sponsors if they loose one and hence it is not even a big deal.

I never claimed that BCCI would collapse. I mentioned how corrupt they are which is why they won't just collapse out of the blue, but these constant issues have been hitting them hardly lately. Also, the COVID situation in India is getting worse every second.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on June 29, 2020, 10:43:16 AM

This is even worse if you a allow a positive corona patient to travel all the way to Europe and then tested for covid19. If he is effected the virus, everyone in the plane will be at risk and they need to be tested too.
I think ICC should conduct some independent tests under the monitoring of international doctors and testing, so that the correct results are revealed.

Pakistan team has already reached England and till now there is no news of any additional infections. The entourage consists of 20 players and 11 non-playing staff. Even if any of them test positive later, I believe that PCB has taken enough precautions to avoid any community spread. All of them are using masks, and there is no physical contact with anyone outside the group.

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Few Days back I already posted this is going to be drama because every Pakistani team going England or Australia we have tactics like this and PCB is already in shit position and cannot handle this all just packing their bags with families for free visit of England its kinda un professional behaviour by them.

Wait a min, how can this be a drama ? Were the players were not tested positive for covid19 ?

If so, how can the media and everywhere else this false news can spread and what is the benefit in it for the PCB and players ?

This should turn out against their favor as other international players may show concerns playing with them.

Paistan's medical system completely exposed by this Corona so many fake laborteries and medical institutes was not on merit just because of this we have many players was positive and then negative PCB is also not good management mostly they are favouring their own peoples so they give contract to wrong person and have result in wrong as Hafeez check by his own then all this exposed and now PCB is also in shameful situation and doing new tests and have better results.

What worst could get it from here is that once the players reach to England and again if the test are being done and they turned into positive then what will happen, will they be sent back to their country or will they be treating them there and after that they can play the matches once their results become negative. Many more such things could happen in coming time.

This is even worse if you a allow a positive corona patient to travel all the way to Europe and then tested for covid19. If he is effected the virus, everyone in the plane will be at risk and they need to be tested too.
I think ICC should conduct some independent tests under the monitoring of international doctors and testing, so that the correct results are revealed.

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Quote from: RapTarX on June 28, 2020, 05:26:21 PM

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Moreover, Vivo sponsorship wouldn't be a problem, the cries for boycotting Chinese products is just a publicity stunt nothing more.

The public chaos is none but a chaos; as said they are posting video on tiktok to boycott Chinese product using Chinese Mobile Cheesy

These will never be a problem with IPL unless some more serious condition arises and India put some ban on trades with China.

It is not practical to boycott China, since they produce 99% of the electronic spare parts. Even non-Chinese companies such as Sony, Samsung and Apple use Chinese parts in their products. All this talk about boycotting China is done by some political parties in India (both ruling and opposition). After sometime, everyone will forget about it, and Chinese companies will go ahead with their sponsorship deals with the BCCI.

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Quote from: RapTarX on June 28, 2020, 05:26:21 PM

The public chaos is none but a chaos; as said they are posting video on tiktok to boycott Chinese product using Chinese Mobile Cheesy

These will never be a problem with IPL unless some more serious condition arises and India put some ban on trades with China.

That is funny, asking to boycott Chinese products using Chinese products and TikTok is also a Chinese company Cheesy

. Is there any Indian mobile phone brands that does not have Chinese manufacturing units and i highly doubt those, if India starts boycotting the products the same can be done by China when it comes to exporting manufactured goods to India and if that happens then electronic products will become expensive as you can only get Chinese electronic items for cheaper rates.

I saw an article today about possible venues for the IPL and the Caribbean is the choice it was given espcially in Barbados and then Saint Kitts and Nevis and the West Indies cricket board will accept any offeres from the BCCI and majority of the players are from these region playing in the IPL, so if BCCI wants to conduct the tournament it is possible to move to these countries like they did in the past when they moved to South Africa .

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Quote from: akhjob on June 28, 2020, 11:33:22 AM

Moreover, Vivo sponsorship wouldn't be a problem, the cries for boycotting Chinese products is just a publicity stunt nothing more.

The public chaos is none but a chaos; as said they are posting video on tiktok to boycott Chinese product using Chinese Mobile Cheesy

These will never be a problem with IPL unless some more serious condition arises and India put some ban on trades with China.

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Quote from: Haunebu on June 28, 2020, 10:34:37 AM

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I don't think you understand the current situation of the BCCI. They are usually in the news for corruption and other reasons and now these sponsorship and advertiser issues made their situation even worse.

Are you claiming that BCCI has gone from the richest cricket body to loosing everything, what about the other cricket bodies during this period, there is no matches and everyone is suffering during this period and it is not a situation that is enforced on BCCI alone and with the sponsorship issue, they will get a thousand other sponsors if they loose one and hence it is not even a big deal.

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On top of all this, they have suffered huge losses thanks to COVID which is why it isn't just about the funds. It seems that they are looking at Sep-Oct to conduct IPL though I am expecting them to postpone the event once again.

As i mentioned above the COVID situation is not exclusively for BCCI or cricket, there is no NBA and they are loosing millions and so does many sports and some are not even willing to restart the sport without live gate.

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Being a regular visitor to India, I would say that the Indian laws are flexible. VIVO can go to the court and it is even possible that they may get a favorable ruling from the judges. But the government can pass a bill with two-third majority in the parliament to reverse the judgement. And under current circumstances, it will be suicidal for the Indian opposition parties to support VIVO.

I am not familiar how the law works in India but the supreme court could uphold the law if it is unconstitutional and if there is an agreement and they want to annul the contract without proper reason then logically they could get the protection from the court.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on June 28, 2020, 10:15:46 AM

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With Coca Cola cutting ties, the franchise needs suitable replacements asap which probably will take time. The issues with Chinese brands like VIVO etc due to the current India-Chinese problems is another major hurdle.

Do you think the BCCI will void the sponsorship because they are Chinese brands, there are written contracts and what happens if VIVO goes to court, i have no idea about the contract agreement but i am pretty sure they will have clause that will aide them in voiding a contract just like that as they are not paying small amount for these sponsorship. What is the reason for Coco Cola to cut the ties, whatever it may be the reason the BCCI has more funds to conduct the tournament if they have a favorable situation regarding the virus.

Being a regular visitor to India, I would say that the Indian laws are flexible. VIVO can go to the court and it is even possible that they may get a favorable ruling from the judges. But the government can pass a bill with two-third majority in the parliament to reverse the judgement. And under current circumstances, it will be suicidal for the Indian opposition parties to support VIVO.

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Quote from: Haunebu on June 28, 2020, 08:27:01 AM

With Coca Cola cutting ties, the franchise needs suitable replacements asap which probably will take time. The issues with Chinese brands like VIVO etc due to the current India-Chinese problems is another major hurdle.

Cocacola cutting the ties might lead to some loss in funds for BCCI but that is not going to stop the IPL if they plan to conduct it. Moreover, Vivo sponsorship wouldn't be a problem, the cries for boycotting Chinese products is just a publicity stunt nothing more. And as 7788bitcoin mentioned, they might have a written contract in place and if BCCI breaks the contract they might have to pay some compensation.
Just check this - OnePlus 8 Pro sold out within minutes of going on sale even as calls for boycotting Chinese items.
Do you still think that VIVO sponsorship is a problem?

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on June 28, 2020, 10:15:46 AM

whatever it may be the reason the BCCI has more funds to conduct the tournament if they have a favorable situation regarding the virus.

I don't think you understand the current situation of the BCCI. They are usually in the news for corruption and other reasons and now these sponsorship and advertiser issues made their situation even worse.

On top of all this, they have suffered huge losses thanks to COVID which is why it isn't just about the funds. It seems that they are looking at Sep-Oct to conduct IPL though I am expecting them to postpone the event once again.

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Quote from: Haunebu on June 28, 2020, 08:27:01 AM

With Coca Cola cutting ties, the franchise needs suitable replacements asap which probably will take time. The issues with Chinese brands like VIVO etc due to the current India-Chinese problems is another major hurdle.

Do you think the BCCI will void the sponsorship because they are Chinese brands, there are written contracts and what happens if VIVO goes to court, i have no idea about the contract agreement but i am pretty sure they will have clause that will aide them in voiding a contract just like that as they are not paying small amount for these sponsorship. What is the reason for Coco Cola to cut the ties, whatever it may be the reason the BCCI has more funds to conduct the tournament if they have a favorable situation regarding the virus.

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Another sad update regarding IPL 2020. It might take a miracle for it to take place this year.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/sportscafe.in/cricket/articles/2020/jun/28/reports-ipl-2020-to-lose-advertisement-partner-coca-cola/amp

With Coca Cola cutting ties, the franchise needs suitable replacements asap which probably will take time. The issues with Chinese brands like VIVO etc due to the current India-Chinese problems is another major hurdle.

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What worst could get it from here is that once the players reach to England and again if the test are being done and they turned into positive then what will happen, will they be sent back to their country or will they be treating them there and after that they can play the matches once their results become negative. Many more such things could happen in coming time.

Under normal circumstances, if a foreign national tests positive upon arrival in England, he'll be either admitted to a hospital there, or he'll be placed under supervised isolation quarantine (for asymptomatic cases). The patient will be allowed to travel to the home country, only in cases where he has all the required permissions from both the countries, and the travel will be permitted only in an air-ambulance.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on June 28, 2020, 05:46:32 AM

Quote from: Indymoney on June 28, 2020, 05:28:57 AM

Few Days back I already posted this is going to be drama because every Pakistani team going England or Australia we have tactics like this and PCB is already in shit position and cannot handle this all just packing their bags with families for free visit of England its kinda un professional behaviour by them.

Wait a min, how can this be a drama ? Were the players were not tested positive for covid19 ?

If so, how can the media and everywhere else this false news can spread and what is the benefit in it for the PCB and players ?

This should turn out against their favor as other international players may show concerns playing with them.

Paistan's medical system completely exposed by this Corona so many fake laborteries and medical institutes was not on merit just because of this we have many players was positive and then negative PCB is also not good management mostly they are favouring their own peoples so they give contract to wrong person and have result in wrong as Hafeez check by his own then all this exposed and now PCB is also in shameful situation and doing new tests and have better results.

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