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Quote from: JSRAW on June 24, 2020, 11:07:11 PM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 24, 2020, 10:40:15 PM

There has been a lot of uncertainty regarding whether the T20 World Cup 2020 will go ahead as planned, or it may be postponed. We may get a definite answer today. Indications are that the ICC is also in favor of postponing the tournament, after Cricket Australia officials said that staging the tournament this year is "unrealistic". Once the confirmation comes from the ICC, we can expect the BCCI to make their push for a mini-IPL this season.

Today? I was under impression that meeting is schedule to next month, they did met recently around 10ish june.

Cancellation announcement seems only formality to me, every interested parties already seems to favoring cancellation for so long.

I thought that same and I do think that the T20 world cup will be postponed as the situation here in Australia is now getting out of control. The cases in Victoria where the final was to be played is really spiking so I can't see the world cup going ahead unless they move it to another state like Western Australia where the cases are low and under control. State borders are still closed in Australia and the Western Australian government is pushing to have the AFL grand final played in Western Australia and also the boxing day test match so I wouldn't be surprised if they put forward a case to also host the T20 world cup final and most of the matches. Time will tell on what the ICC decide but its looking unlikely to me that it will go ahead as planned.

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Quote from: ene1980 on June 25, 2020, 03:28:55 PM

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^ Full capacity crowds? Shocked

That would be a stupid idea. One thing we should learn from the recent incident with the Pakistan cricketers is that even if you take necessary precautions to not get infected, it just needs 1 unknown carrier to spread the virus to others. So just think about the impact on a huge cheering crowd Lips sealed

It is evident that teh Pakistan cricket board whatever it may be did not take the necessary precautions and if they really did those then they would not have suffered like that, Soccer clubs and the UFC showed how to resume the sports by testing each and every person that is participating in the event and then give them a window to isolate themselves before the test results are out and if you are not doing that then it is bound to see disasters like these.

As I already said we have some more drama about these positive reports hopefully this all will be solved and PCB now take care about this all because now many other players also not feeling good with this all but PCB is now ready to do some better things for any worst happen.

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Quote from: akhjob on June 25, 2020, 10:47:00 AM

^ Full capacity crowds? Shocked

That would be a stupid idea. One thing we should learn from the recent incident with the Pakistan cricketers is that even if you take necessary precautions to not get infected, it just needs 1 unknown carrier to spread the virus to others. So just think about the impact on a huge cheering crowd Lips sealed

It is evident that teh Pakistan cricket board whatever it may be did not take the necessary precautions and if they really did those then they would not have suffered like that, Soccer clubs and the UFC showed how to resume the sports by testing each and every person that is participating in the event and then give them a window to isolate themselves before the test results are out and if you are not doing that then it is bound to see disasters like these.

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^ Full capacity crowds? Shocked

That would be a stupid idea. One thing we should learn from the recent incident with the Pakistan cricketers is that even if you take necessary precautions to not get infected, it just needs 1 unknown carrier to spread the virus to others. So just think about the impact on a huge cheering crowd Lips sealed

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 24, 2020, 10:40:15 PM

There has been a lot of uncertainty regarding whether the T20 World Cup 2020 will go ahead as planned, or it may be postponed. We may get a definite answer today. Indications are that the ICC is also in favor of postponing the tournament, after Cricket Australia officials said that staging the tournament this year is "unrealistic". Once the confirmation comes from the ICC, we can expect the BCCI to make their push for a mini-IPL this season.

@Vishnu.Reang I feel that ICC is not in favour of postponing the World Cup, and the news that the World Cup will be postponed has been spread by the IPL organisers who want to pressurise ICC into postponing the World Cup. Further I’m aware that the CA chairman too has casted doubts about the World Cup, but now Australia’s PM has decided to allow crowds back in the stadium which means that T20 World Cup will definitely go ahead if ICC pushes for it.

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This piece of news will bring in some smiles to the faces of International Cricket Council (ICC), Cricket Australia (CA) and those cricket fans who are eagerly waiting for the ICC T20 World Cup down under in October-Nov this year. With COVID-19 relatively under control in Western Australia (WA), the state government has announced plans to allow full-capacity crowds from July 18, meaning up to 60,000 fans could attend games at Perth’s Optus Stadium while other part of the country also gradually opening up.

But at the same time, this news will disappoint the Indian Premier League (IPL 2020) fans who are hoping for the T20 World Cup window to be utilized by IPL 2020 this year.

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https://www.insidesport.co/big-positive-for-icc-t20-world-cup-perths-optus-stadium-to-allow-full-house-crowd/

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 24, 2020, 10:40:15 PM

There has been a lot of uncertainty regarding whether the T20 World Cup 2020 will go ahead as planned, or it may be postponed. We may get a definite answer today. Indications are that the ICC is also in favor of postponing the tournament, after Cricket Australia officials said that staging the tournament this year is "unrealistic". Once the confirmation comes from the ICC, we can expect the BCCI to make their push for a mini-IPL this season.

Today? I was under impression that meeting is schedule to next month, they did met recently around 10ish june.

Cancellation announcement seems only formality to me, every interested parties already seems to favoring cancellation for so long.

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There has been a lot of uncertainty regarding whether the T20 World Cup 2020 will go ahead as planned, or it may be postponed. We may get a definite answer today. Indications are that the ICC is also in favor of postponing the tournament, after Cricket Australia officials said that staging the tournament this year is "unrealistic". Once the confirmation comes from the ICC, we can expect the BCCI to make their push for a mini-IPL this season.

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Quote from: Indymoney on June 24, 2020, 05:58:22 PM

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Right now we have many jokes around but one thing is serious that many peoples already died and thousands on vantilators but really weired situation for me as stick locl down and lives still not safe hospitals full and Doctors also losing lives in this all need some very good mind for understanding this all.

That is the nature of the virus, the WHO is funded heavily and they get around $5 billion annual and if they are not able to conduct valid test and research and get to the bottom of the situation and if they would have started the preparation when the virus started spreading in China we would not have seen these kind of catastrophes and when they change important statements every week then what is the real use of the World Health Organization that does not deliver anything and helps in combating the virus.

Just think, the WHO could have prevented this pandemic if they had taken actions when the virus started spreading in China.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on June 24, 2020, 05:37:12 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on June 24, 2020, 08:52:34 AM

i think let's wait for 1 week at least, we might have some clear picture because today Mohammad Hafiz claimed that he's took second test and result came negative.

I hope the rest of the fighters will not be affected because if you are not taking the testing serious you are bound to see a disaster as it is evident from the recent Tennis tournament conducted by Djokovic and many of the players who participated in the event are corona positive including Djokovic which is really unfortunate and it is a lesson for every sporting event that are planning to resume.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 24, 2020, 11:34:47 AM

There is a lot of confusion here. The WHO initially claimed that asymptomatic patients are unlikely to spread the disease. They retracted the statement recently, claiming that there is not enough data available to confirm this finding.

WHO is a joke.

Right now we have many jokes around but one thing is serious that many peoples already died and thousands on vantilators but really weired situation for me as stick locl down and lives still not safe hospitals full and Doctors also losing lives in this all need some very good mind for understanding this all.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 24, 2020, 08:52:34 AM

i think let's wait for 1 week at least, we might have some clear picture because today Mohammad Hafiz claimed that he's took second test and result came negative.

I hope the rest of the fighters will not be affected because if you are not taking the testing serious you are bound to see a disaster as it is evident from the recent Tennis tournament conducted by Djokovic and many of the players who participated in the event are corona positive including Djokovic which is really unfortunate and it is a lesson for every sporting event that are planning to resume.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 24, 2020, 11:34:47 AM

There is a lot of confusion here. The WHO initially claimed that asymptomatic patients are unlikely to spread the disease. They retracted the statement recently, claiming that there is not enough data available to confirm this finding.

WHO is a joke.

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May be the real reason is that they cannot afford missing the series because of financial reason, three months of no cricket and the board is already suffering because there is not much cricket played in Pakistan and with the lock down and the virus they might be in financial crisis and it makes sense that they want to continue even thought 10 of their players are infected, asymptomatic does not mean they are not carriers of the virus and they need to check what is going on with the players to get everyone infected.

Well, that seems a main reason, i suppose and i don't blame them for that. Pandemic is quite hard on every cricket board and more so on when some board are already facing some financial challenges.

In reply to @Vishnu.Reang and you on contagious topic, i think let's wait for 1 week at least, we might have some clear picture because today Mohammad Hafiz claimed that he's took second test and result came negative.

Hafeez claims negative Covid-19 result a day after testing positive

Look like we are going to watch some more drama about this Covid-19 in next few days as many local peoples already complaining about this and they are now feeling its really serious issue many labortries and Doctors taking good benefit of this all wrongly government is also feeling heat and they will take some action about this all.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on June 24, 2020, 01:07:46 PM

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Since the beginning of the coronavirus, “WHO” has been giving wrong and misleading information. Their Attitude are such that they do not understand anything, they eventually make a comment and within a few days they are withdraw that. such an unprofessional things, we cannot expect this kind of Irresponsible work from “WHO”. I don't think “WHO” can be trusted anymore with the coronavirus issue.

It is true that WHO especially Tedros Adhanom who is having contradictory statement one after another from the beginning, initially they said the Corona virus will not spread from human to human and then they changed that, it was a lack of competence from their part to identify the situation and rather than banning all the flights from China they assured that everything is alright. It is a new virus and naturally the scientific world will not have much information about the virus but to have contradicting statement one after the other will not help in containing the virus.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 24, 2020, 11:34:47 AM

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This is rather worrying, considering World Health Organisation let out a statement recently, saying that COVID-19 transmission rate from asymptomatic patients is "rare". However, soon after, they retracted the statement, adding that the statement was misinterpreted and much data remains unknown and there, actually was a 40% chance of patients transmitting the illness onto others without being symptomatic. The debate created a big furore and sparked controversy in the community.

There is a lot of confusion here. The WHO initially claimed that asymptomatic patients are unlikely to spread the disease. They retracted the statement recently, claiming that there is not enough data available to confirm this finding.

Since the beginning of the coronavirus, “WHO” has been giving wrong and misleading information. Their Attitude are such that they do not understand anything, they eventually make a comment and within a few days they are withdraw that. such an unprofessional things, we cannot expect this kind of Irresponsible work from “WHO”. I don't think “WHO” can be trusted anymore with the coronavirus issue.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 24, 2020, 08:23:11 AM

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Hmm.. so they are trying to make use of this one month buffer. I have to point out one thing. The players may be asymptomatic right now. But that doesn't mean that all of them will remain as such. If the infection sets in, then at least some of them may experience symptoms such as coughing, fever or even pneumonia. And that would make them contagious.

If you are infected then you are contagious even if you are asymptomatic, the majority of the spread is because people who are asymptotic is spreading the disease and so is the reason it is difficult to contain the spread and difficult to identify the source of infection and we do not have a concrete data on that yet but i am pretty sure no one in the right sense would stay in an area if someone is coughing or showing some symptoms and if you think logically the asymptomatic contagious situation is the most damaging aspect of Corona virus.

To have more clarity of the issue:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/health-fitness/health-news/coronavirus-who-retracts-statement-within-a-day-that-said-asymptomatic-covid-19-carriers-cannot-spread-infection-here-is-an-explainer/photostory/76299600.cms

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This is rather worrying, considering World Health Organisation let out a statement recently, saying that COVID-19 transmission rate from asymptomatic patients is "rare". However, soon after, they retracted the statement, adding that the statement was misinterpreted and much data remains unknown and there, actually was a 40% chance of patients transmitting the illness onto others without being symptomatic. The debate created a big furore and sparked controversy in the community.

There is a lot of confusion here. The WHO initially claimed that asymptomatic patients are unlikely to spread the disease. They retracted the statement recently, claiming that there is not enough data available to confirm this finding.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on June 24, 2020, 01:20:55 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on June 24, 2020, 12:14:02 AM

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May be the real reason is that they cannot afford missing the series because of financial reason, three months of no cricket and the board is already suffering because there is not much cricket played in Pakistan and with the lock down and the virus they might be in financial crisis and it makes sense that they want to continue even thought 10 of their players are infected, asymptomatic does not mean they are not carriers of the virus and they need to check what is going on with the players to get everyone infected.

Well, that seems a main reason, i suppose and i don't blame them for that. Pandemic is quite hard on every cricket board and more so on when some board are already facing some financial challenges.

In reply to @Vishnu.Reang and you on contagious topic, i think let's wait for 1 week at least, we might have some clear picture because today Mohammad Hafiz claimed that he's took second test and result came negative.

Hafeez claims negative Covid-19 result a day after testing positive

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 24, 2020, 08:23:11 AM

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Hmm.. so they are trying to make use of this one month buffer. I have to point out one thing. The players may be asymptomatic right now. But that doesn't mean that all of them will remain as such. If the infection sets in, then at least some of them may experience symptoms such as coughing, fever or even pneumonia. And that would make them contagious.

If you are infected then you are contagious even if you are asymptomatic, the majority of the spread is because people who are asymptotic is spreading the disease and so is the reason it is difficult to contain the spread and difficult to identify the source of infection and we do not have a concrete data on that yet but i am pretty sure no one in the right sense would stay in an area if someone is coughing or showing some symptoms and if you think logically the asymptomatic contagious situation is the most damaging aspect of Corona virus.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 24, 2020, 12:14:02 AM

PCB is not in mood of any cancellation, they clarified this during their briefing. My guess are...

- May be because they have 1 month as buffer.
- Players are asymptomatic.
- Considering replacement players, this one looks shady tho..

Hmm.. so they are trying to make use of this one month buffer. I have to point out one thing. The players may be asymptomatic right now. But that doesn't mean that all of them will remain as such. If the infection sets in, then at least some of them may experience symptoms such as coughing, fever or even pneumonia. And that would make them contagious.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 24, 2020, 12:14:02 AM

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PCB is not in mood of any cancellation, they clarified this during their briefing. My guess are...

- May be because they have 1 month as buffer.
- Players are asymptomatic.
- Considering replacement players, this one looks shady tho..

May be the real reason is that they cannot afford missing the series because of financial reason, three months of no cricket and the board is already suffering because there is not much cricket played in Pakistan and with the lock down and the virus they might be in financial crisis and it makes sense that they want to continue even thought 10 of their players are infected, asymptomatic does not mean they are not carriers of the virus and they need to check what is going on with the players to get everyone infected.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 23, 2020, 11:06:28 AM

^^^^ Perhaps it may be better to call off the tour. So many players have tested positive, and these players have interacted with the other players who have tested negative for now. The other players should be in quarantine, as it is not sure whether they have contracted the virus or not. So in my opinion, rather than announcing the replacements, the tour should be called off.

PCB is not in mood of any cancellation, they clarified this during their briefing. My guess are...

- May be because they have 1 month as buffer.
- Players are asymptomatic.
- Considering replacement players, this one looks shady tho..

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Quote from: ene1980 on June 23, 2020, 03:21:15 PM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 23, 2020, 12:20:21 PM

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Actually, the future of this tour is not at the hands of PCB now. Given the number of infections, I don't think that the ECB will give permission for the Pakistan team to tour England. Only after the second round of tests, the picture will be clear. It is very likely that more players may test positive during the next round of tests. Anyway, how can the Pakistan team perform without so many of their regular players?

With the number of players testing positive there is no point in sending a second class team to tour England, Pakistan is usually struggling to put up a strong team even when the entire players are fit and with the current situation entirely not in their favor the best option is to postpone the series rather than carrying on with it. When the rest of the teams continue to put together the team who knows what the situation will be.

This tour might not go ahead anyway as Europe is already talking about not allowing US residents into Europe as its one of the hardest hit nations and with the current situation in Pakistan with the cases rising and with their players contracting the virus its hard to see this tour going ahead. I think it will be best to call it off as this virus doesn't look like slowing down.

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