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Quote from: pakhitheboss on July 05, 2020, 09:48:27 PM

Forget about other countries if BCCI cannot organize the IPL tournament in India due to COVID19. It will get canceled. Indian Government will not allow the matches to happen anywhere outside India. National sentiments are too high in India at the moment and this government is known for encouraging it.

It has nothing to do with nationalist sentiments, and IPL has been staged outside India earlier. The second edition of the IPL in 2009 was staged in South Africa, as the scheduling in India was affected due to the general elections. The organization of the tournament in South Africa was regarded as a grand success, and there were talks of hosting IPL editions outside India on a regular basis. But then, financial considerations came to play and the BCCI chose to limit the tournament to India.

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Fair argument..
1. Empty stands is not alien scenario in the cricket or any sports. @7788bitcoin already pointed out one counter argument.
2. For starters BCCI aiming to conduct IPL season in UAE or Srl Lanka not India bc both countries are much safer destination in comparison of India.
3. When any series/tournaments takes place in tough condition, the first thing everyone discuss is safety so i think we should leave this to interesting parties.

Coming back to @vishnu statement, his position on audience's fatigue or overdose of IPL is true and might backfire on BCCI but we shouldn't forget that after 3-4 months halt due to pandemic audience are hungry for some sort of entertainment in the cricket and then we have revenue angle too.

Sri Lanka may be safer when compared to India, but I would disagree with you regarding UAE. The GCC nations have been severely affected by this pandemic, and the UAE is not an exception. If you want to talk about the numbers, then UAE is having 5,142 cases per 1 million population, while in India the same figure is 489 per million (almost 10 times lower). On top of that, there are rumors that the GCC nations are under-counting both the cases and casualties from COVID 19.

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Coming back to @vishnu statement, his position on audience's fatigue or overdose of IPL is true and might backfire on BCCI but we shouldn't forget that after 3-4 months halt due to pandemic audience are hungry for some sort of entertainment in the cricket and then we have revenue angle too.

Why is there a talk about audience fatigue when there is no possibility that the ICC will allow the BCCI to conduct their tournament consecutively when the international schedule is halted in the name of pandemic and it will not help anyone as other cricket boards will come up with their franchise cricket and ICC will be forced to take a neutral stand.

Because once ICC officially announce the complete cancellation of T-20 WC, then no one could stop BCCI (except covid-19) as slots are technically free to use for anyone and BCCI just got lucky. One could argue what about FTP (Bilateral series)? but BCCI is already covered as there was no bilateral commitment during that period except World Cup and Australia's tour (Schedule in Nov-Dec-Jan). There is one more factor "Asia Cup" but schedule is not fixed yet and decision is pending for quite some time, let's see what happens.

About other boards.
PSL - Already finished (3 games left only)
BBL - They might go with the league as India already touring Australia at the same time, it happens every year. (Dec-Nov-Feb)

After all this comes fatigue argument...

@Vishnu.Reang May be.. As of now everything is speculation so let's see. Having said that BCCI really want to organize IPL due to revenue, which is very understandable argument, nothing wrong with that and no one should really blame them for it, money is important too IMO. Players can't sit out whole year without playing any cricket.

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I think that if back-to-back IPL tournament will be held, there will haven't any problem. IMO, it is good for BCCI. because they can get much profit from sponsor. on the other hand, it is good news for those people, who do like sports gambling. we all know that "IPL" is a big platform for gambling. so, if IPL will be held, I won't be mined anything. it will be good for me too. I am just waiting for this tournament,

I am not sure if they can consider this back to back IPL. Because if it does not happen in India which is most likely for this year due to the pandemic so the country would lose the revenue opportunity related to the hosting of IPL. So they may just consider it for this year if it happens and then might be next year could get postponed to latter half of the year rather than usual April month.

yahh you got my point. if the IPL is postponed this year, then BCCI will lose a large amount of money. I don't think BCCI want this type of financial damage. they will try their best to organize the IPL in this year. and I think, they may postpone the date of IPL next year. but if really, they want to held IPL in this year, they have to ensure players safety first. if any player will be affected by covid-19 during the IPL, all of his responsibility has to be taken by the IPL committee.

They will postpone the tournament, if they wanted to cancel it then they would have done that in the month of May or June. They still can conduct it by the end of this year, How and Where is still unknown? I am sure most of the executive members of the BCCI do not have a clue as to how will the organise it in such a situation wherein India is ranking as the top 5 countries worst affected by the pandemic.

One of the reasons what BCCI would be thinking at this point of time and may be it is getting delayed is that just while playing IPL if some players get Covid positive and due to which later on few other players also get positive in such instance it can backfire them because the people and the other governments may say that was playing during this time necessary or cannot it be postponed to later date or next year. This may be a worrying factor to them.

Yes, this disease can happen to anyone if proper precaution are not taken and if one player gets infected he can become a super spreader which will easily jeopardize the reputation of IPL and BCCI. The government of India has still placed a ban on huge gathering at the moment. You need to take permission from local authorities in order to organize an event. BCCI is also waiting for it to be removed

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They will postpone the tournament, if they wanted to cancel it then they would have done that in the month of May or June. They still can conduct it by the end of this year, How and Where is still unknown? I am sure most of the executive members of the BCCI do not have a clue as to how will they organize it in such a situation wherein India is ranking as the top 5 countries worst affected by the pandemic.

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Nothing new they have done this in the past and it was all political. This was supposed to happen before even they started it they canceled it and after few years again they will come and do the same. The Srilankan Sports Minister was high on something when he spoke about this issue to the media.

Is the accusation came from the present sports minister, i thought some former minister came out with the accusation to have some media exposure. I still think this is a media circus as some have mentioned that the investigation is called off.

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I think its the end for the T20 world cup this year as the virus cases continue to grow in Victoria where the final was meant to be played. Its a shame as Australia have been doing a good job at containing the virus but a cluster started when overseas travellers arrived in Melbourne and the staff and security at the hotels contracted the virus and now its out of control so the T20 world cup most likely won't go ahead now.

More here: https://www.insidesport.co/all-is-over-for-t20-world-cup-as-cases-increase-in-victoria-ipl-2020-set-to-get-lifeline/

Cricket enthusiasts will really bad for now because T20 world cup is something more attracted to new generation people but this year we are going to miss that entertainment and also they missed IPL as well.Its time for to save human kind from deadly virus so safe distance from everyone to save you as well as others.

@vella85 this is sad news for fans like me who were eagerly waiting for the T20 World Cup, and I can’t believe that few days ago situation was completely under control, and there were even talks of fans being allowed back in the stadium, and hence it’s difficult for me to understand why did Australia suddenly let it’s guard down?. Further IPL will definitely be scheduled if the World Cup is off, but with no fans in the stadium and limited over seas player’s, I'm not sure if it’ll be as entertaining as it usually is?.

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https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cricket/story/ipl-2020-to-be-held-behind-closed-doors-want-foreign-players-say-franchises-1654822-2020-03-12

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-12/national-cabinet-coronavirus-restrictions-prime-minister-protes/12348718

Yes it is sad because even I was looking forward to the T20 world cup being held in my country but it just isn't going to happen with the cases rising here in Victoria with over 100 cases being recorded yesterday. The problem has come from overseas travellers going into hotel quarantine which is where the outbreak started and hasn't stopped. Now some suburbs are in lockdown once again but it doesn't seem to be helping. Other states are doing well so I was thinking that if there is any chance for the T20 world cup being played maybe the other states can host the final as the football teams from Victoria are now relocating to the other states to keep the season alive so it could also be done for the T20 world cup if they want to. That's of course that the situation in these other states remains under control.

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As expected, the Sri Lankan dropped the investigation.

https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/sri-lanka-drops-wc-cricket-fixing-probe-lack-000646403--spt.html

I cannot believe the fact that they grilled Sangakarra for 10 freaking hours. This is messed up. I hope someone takes serious action against the dumb sports minister who initiated this bullshit.

Some learning must have being learnt by the Sri Lankan Sports Ministry and hoping that in future they would not do such acts which can insult the image in the eye of the world of the team and their players who had given their soul for the Sril Lankan team and somebody like Sangakkara who has lived each moment for his team to become No 1 and played the best of the innings possible in each match and still was investigated. This would have been his worst moment for sure.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 03, 2020, 07:49:17 AM

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I don't know why you guys always talk about postponing the IPL instead of cancelling it. Do you really think that it is a good idea to have an IPL during the 4th quarter of 2020, and then have the next year's edition just 3 months later? It will be like having back-to-back tournaments without any break in between. I am saying this for many months now. The only viable option is to cancel the IPL 2020 and to concentrate on the preparations for IPL 2021.

you have mentioned about the back to back tournaments. I even think that the number of matches will get reduced in those tournaments.
Still it's better to cancel IPL this year. There are lots of problems to conduct the IPL.
1. Spectator less gallery.
2. Problem to conduct home and away match.
3. Regular checkups for the players and supporting staff.

Everyone ,including me is eagerly waiting for the matches to start. I don't care if there is no crowd in the stadium, all I want is to see the players in action and opportunity to bet on the matches.
I think UAE is a much better venue than srilanka for the IPL. There are many more indians in the UAE as compare to srilanka.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on July 03, 2020, 02:46:01 PM

It is wishful thinking that we will see back to back IPL tournaments but for that to happen we should think that the corona situation will be over by the end of this year but the way things are going globally it is highly unlikely we will see the normal days anytime soon, the second and third waves will be keep on hitting and with the huge number of population in India it will take a really long time and if the BCCI consider to take the series outside then it is possible but lets see what they are planning for this year and whether they can do it successfully and after that we can think about other series.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 03, 2020, 07:49:17 AM

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Hopefully BCCI will understand this all and announces postponed this year's event because right now all things going against them and if they will insist for this then surely they will face some serious trouble from common peoples and may be from government as well because they cannot ignore main sponsor and its not good for them.

I don't know why you guys always talk about postponing the IPL instead of cancelling it. Do you really think that it is a good idea to have an IPL during the 4th quarter of 2020, and then have the next year's edition just 3 months later? It will be like having back-to-back tournaments without any break in between. I am saying this for many months now. The only viable option is to cancel the IPL 2020 and to concentrate on the preparations for IPL 2021.

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Quote from: suvo05 on July 03, 2020, 01:29:39 PM

The IPL is not making a huge amount of money with spectators as far as i know when you compare them with NBA or any other major sports and the major revenue is broadcasting rights and if the channel is not getting the contents then they will loose out millions of dollars and hence the BCCI will try to carry on with the tournament if it is possible without audience. IPL already conducted outside India in the past and hence it is not a big deal if there is no home or away matches and regular check up is necessary if they want to carry on with the tournament.

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Finally got to know that IPL 2020 mostly likely will not happen in India and UAE and Sri Lanka are the front runners to host it. BCCI are in talks with this two boards and trying to figure out how and when it can happen. And the worst if BCCI decides to cancel IPL for this years they expect around 4000 crore INR loss . That is the reason they are trying very hard to ensure the IPL happens for this season.