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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 23, 2019, 08:22:40 PM

The T20 series is over now... what's left is the ODI series and the three test matches. I don't think that the selectors will think about too much experimentation, either during the ODIs or for the tests. They should be fielding the full strength side.

Is there ODI matches in this series? I remember the South African tour to be 3 T20 and 3 Test series. I don't think there is an ODI match in between them. Or are referring to any other series.

Edit: Just checked. India don't have a ODI match until Dec 15 with West Indies. In between India has a Bangladesh tour which is also T20, test series.

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Always I used state India is completely depending upon Kohli. Last match he performed and India won the match. This time the starting missed, and the middle order too didn't performed well. This is not the first time, and this too is a result of over confidence from the Indian cricket team.

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Quote from: erikalui on September 23, 2019, 02:45:17 PM

I don't know much about India experimenting with their bowlers but when bowlers and batsmen fail so miserably, everyone should be blamed. It's OK if they try to choose these youngsters for T20 matches but hope they continue with experienced batsmen in the test ones. Disappointed with Rohit's performance especially as he had enough time to rest but performed badly. Sundar, Chahar, Saini all couldn't take a single wicket and bowled at the economy rate of 6+ with Saini bowling at 12.5 which is itself shows how bad they were. Both the teams failed in the last match. Chasing down 134 runs so easily proves it.

It is true that the Indian batsmen failed to put enough runs on the board and this in turn put the bowlers in to a lot of pressure. But the inexperienced bowlers also failed to live up to their mark. For many of them, it was a rare chance to impress the selectors ahead of the selection for the 2020 T20 World cup, but there wasn't any extraordinary performance from any of them.

On top of all this, Virat Kohli earned 3 demerit points after he behaved aggressively to South African bowler Beuran Hendricks. The T20 series is over now... what's left is the ODI series and the three test matches. I don't think that the selectors will think about too much experimentation, either during the ODIs or for the tests. They should be fielding the full strength side.

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Quote from: erikalui on September 23, 2019, 02:45:17 PM

I don't know much about India experimenting with their bowlers but when bowlers and batsmen fail so miserably, everyone should be blamed.

India does not have a good bench strength for batsman but they have world class bowlers and they are giving them ample rest to avoid any injuries during major tournaments and the intention to groom young talents but what i did not understand is that they should have kept one experienced fast bowler in the team rather than giving them rest at once. India is good at chasing because of Kohli and if they won the toss they must put the opposition to bat and then chase the score rather than trying to restrict the opposition with a weak bowling line up.

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I don't know much about India experimenting with their bowlers but when bowlers and batsmen fail so miserably, everyone should be blamed. It's OK if they try to choose these youngsters for T20 matches but hope they continue with experienced batsmen in the test ones. Disappointed with Rohit's performance especially as he had enough time to rest but performed badly. Sundar, Chahar, Saini all couldn't take a single wicket and bowled at the economy rate of 6+ with Saini bowling at 12.5 which is itself shows how bad they were. Both the teams failed in the last match. Chasing down 134 runs so easily proves it.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 23, 2019, 09:42:41 AM

By the way why were you looking to buy the tickets for the stand which is near the Bangladesh team Huh

Maybe you wanted to jump into their dressing room and offer your batting services in case your team was struggling in the final Cheesy

Lolzz..i could not figure out a better reason. Tongue

If you are fan of your national team, then you would want to be near them, so that you could see them close. Almost everyone, will want their national team to win every game they play.

But yeah wasting 6 hours a day just to get a ticket for the match is too bad Sad

They should have arranged for online booking.

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Is this a line to buy ticket for final? Don't you have online facilities? How much is the ticket price in there?

Before this series, UCB bank provided ticket. I don't know why they don't give this advantage in this series. I had waited 6 hours in the line, 9.30 am to 3.30 pm. Bad luck here that I couldn't buy. Ticket counter has been closed and will start again tomorrow. Probably I will miss this match, I will not be able to go again tomorrow.
Price is low, minimum $3 to max $80. I was trying to get grand stand, place near where BAN players will sit. Ended with no stand at the end.

I couldn't believe that for an international match, there is no online ticket booking system. Already cricket is facing a lot of criticism for taking too much time from the fans. And ordinary people can't afford to spend 6 hours standing in queue, just to purchase tickets. What is the point in wasting so much time, when they can make it easy for everyone involved by creating an online system?

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Quote from: Little Mouse on September 23, 2019, 06:42:17 AM

Price is low, minimum $3 to max $80. I was trying to get grand stand, place near where BAN players will sit. Ended with no stand at the end.

By the way why were you looking to buy the tickets for the stand which is near the Bangladesh team Huh

Maybe you wanted to jump into their dressing room and offer your batting services in case your team was struggling in the final Cheesy

Lolzz..i could not figure out a better reason. Tongue

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Quote from: Little Mouse on September 23, 2019, 06:42:17 AM

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on September 23, 2019, 03:55:48 AM

Is this a line to buy ticket for final? Don't you have online facilities? How much is the ticket price in there?

Before this series, UCB bank provided ticket. I don't know why they don't give this advantage in this series. I had waited 6 hours in the line, 9.30 am to 3.30 pm. Bad luck here that I couldn't buy. Ticket counter has been closed and will start again tomorrow. Probably I will miss this match, I will not be able to go again tomorrow.
Price is low, minimum $3 to max $80. I was trying to get grand stand, place near where BAN players will sit. Ended with no stand at the end.

It must be very hectic for you to stand in the queue for whole day and even then do not get the tickets for the final. Even to get the tickets from bank queue is not feasible. There should be online facitilty of buying the tickets with credit cards or people should be able to buy the matches tickets with bitcoins.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on September 23, 2019, 03:55:48 AM

Is this a line to buy ticket for final? Don't you have online facilities? How much is the ticket price in there?

Before this series, UCB bank provided ticket. I don't know why they don't give this advantage in this series. I had waited 6 hours in the line, 9.30 am to 3.30 pm. Bad luck here that I couldn't buy. Ticket counter has been closed and will start again tomorrow. Probably I will miss this match, I will not be able to go again tomorrow.
Price is low, minimum $3 to max $80. I was trying to get grand stand, place near where BAN players will sit. Ended with no stand at the end.

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Quote from: JSRAW on September 23, 2019, 01:56:16 AM

I see many posters here seems to surprised about why Indian not going with their first-class bowlers. It's not overconfidence, but it's another way around, and they lost last game because of batsmen, not bowlers.

I agree. I find it hilarious when people talk about India being over-confident when the truth is pretty obvious which is the Indian team are simply experimenting with the younger players to find prospective gems for the future.

Bumrah deserves a break and bowlers like Sundar, Saini and Chahar(Who impressed me as expected) deserve a shot. India lost. So what? The series is a draw and both teams played well. Great to see new players getting chances in big matches.

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So, India lost against an average performing team like South Africa. The batting was a disaster for India. Defending 134 is not that easy and when the scoreboard does not have run pressure then everything else become very easy. That's what exactly happened with South Africa yesterday.

Series tie and India my need to learn some lessons from it. The IPL nations should be ashamed for their performance.

Quote from: Little Mouse on September 22, 2019, 11:40:01 PM

Is this a line to buy ticket for final? Don't you have online facilities? How much is the ticket price in there?

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I see many posters here seems to surprised about why Indian not going with their first-class bowlers. It's not overconfidence, but it's another way around, and they lost last game because of batsmen, not bowlers.

Don't forget India lags in ICC ranking in T-20 format and Indian team want to change their mindset when it comes to the shorter format. What that means is they are targeting more all-rounders now and make their batting line up deep as much as possible. That comes with a cost of Quality Spin duo Kuldeep- Chahal. It might be the wrong or right approach in a longer run, only time will tell. But IMHO that's the wrong approach because I think at least one wrist spinners should always be in the Playing XI if they can't fit both of them.

No Front line Seamer in T-20 series (Bumrah). I am in Favor of this mindset when Test Match included in any bilateral series. Virat and his seamers are taking Test format very seriously which is good, and I don't see this thinking changing anytime soon except high profile competition T-20 WC and when there is no test match in their schedule.

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After the win in last match against Afghan, BD peoples are more inspired to watch the final. Line is getting longer each minute.

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This is where I'm. Behind at least 400 people. Problem is I will get 2 tickets at max. I could have some more from black market, but I don't like that to be honest. I don't get why the hell they don't available this series's ticket in Bank. I would get 5/6 if it would.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 22, 2019, 08:48:50 PM

Quote from: vella85 on September 22, 2019, 06:02:17 PM

I sometimes think teams get over confident and rest their good players thinking that the opposition don't have a chance to win with their recent form. This time it turned out to be a bad decision by the Indian selectors as SA played well to restrict India to a moderate total and were able to chase down the runs easily with only losing 1 wicket. T20 cricket is too hard to predict as any team can win even if they have been in poor form and that is why I never bet on T20 matches.

The excuse given by them was that they wanted to experiment as many players as possible before the T20 world cup. But it sounds ridiculous for me. If they want to experiment, then they have these A team tours. International T20 matches are not meant for experimenting. Anyway, yesterday India lost because of poor batting and not as a result of poor bowling.

And they had superstars such as Virat Kohli, Shikhar Dhawan and Rohit Sharma in the squad (and apart from Dhawan, all of them failed). And I wouldn't make the mistake of calling Pant and Iyer as inexperienced. The batting lineup was not very inexperienced and it was the bowling that lacked experience. Playing a match at home against weak opponents, and still they can't build a total in excess of 150.

They had 1-0 lead over them and I think their statement was understandable. You can test out players in A team but you won't be facing opponents like players from the main team. So I think there is a big difference.

Continuously making the same players over and over again may make them susceptible to injuries. Plus it's good to hand over chances to young players to build a good team in future.

IMO batsman should have done a better job giving a challenging target.

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Quote from: vella85 on September 22, 2019, 06:02:17 PM

I sometimes think teams get over confident and rest their good players thinking that the opposition don't have a chance to win with their recent form. This time it turned out to be a bad decision by the Indian selectors as SA played well to restrict India to a moderate total and were able to chase down the runs easily with only losing 1 wicket. T20 cricket is too hard to predict as any team can win even if they have been in poor form and that is why I never bet on T20 matches.

The excuse given by them was that they wanted to experiment as many players as possible before the T20 world cup. But it sounds ridiculous for me. If they want to experiment, then they have these A team tours. International T20 matches are not meant for experimenting. Anyway, yesterday India lost because of poor batting and not as a result of poor bowling.

And they had superstars such as Virat Kohli, Shikhar Dhawan and Rohit Sharma in the squad (and apart from Dhawan, all of them failed). And I wouldn't make the mistake of calling Pant and Iyer as inexperienced. The batting lineup was not very inexperienced and it was the bowling that lacked experience. Playing a match at home against weak opponents, and still they can't build a total in excess of 150.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 22, 2019, 11:12:47 AM

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. SA bowled really well and restricted India to a sub par score and now they are cruising to victory and they are yet to loose a wicket and with India resting their top bowlers we should expect these results too .

Whats the logic behind resting the top bowlers for India in the final T20 match ? Is Kholi too confident that his team will win even if they do not play their best bowlers. This is called over confidence and over confidence always give you a loss.

I sometimes think teams get over confident and rest their good players thinking that the opposition don't have a chance to win with their recent form. This time it turned out to be a bad decision by the Indian selectors as SA played well to restrict India to a moderate total and were able to chase down the runs easily with only losing 1 wicket. T20 cricket is too hard to predict as any team can win even if they have been in poor form and that is why I never bet on T20 matches.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 22, 2019, 11:12:47 AM

Whats the logic behind resting the top bowlers for India in the final T20 match ? Is Kholi too confident that his team will win even if they do not play their best bowlers. This is called over confidence and over confidence always give you a loss.

I am not sure who took the decision to rest their top bowlers as Jasprit Bumrah, Mohammed Shami nor Bhuvneshwar Kumar were playing for them and if they were in the team they could have defended any total as i consider them as the best bowling unit in world cricket at this time, may be they are rested as they are playing in Indian pitches and wanted to try new players and if the Indian batsmen does not put enough score on the board then the current second hand bowling unit cannot defend that and we saw that in this match.

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Great knock from De Cock, couldn't watch the match, I was late from office.
India scored pretty low, for a batting line up like India must have scored 160.

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Glad that i did not make a bet today on India v SA and i am lucky enough not to loose my money Cheesy

. SA bowled really well and restricted India to a sub par score and now they are cruising to victory and they are yet to loose a wicket and with India resting their top bowlers we should expect these results too .

Whats the logic behind resting the top bowlers for India in the final T20 match ? Is Kholi too confident that his team will win even if they do not play their best bowlers. This is called over confidence and over confidence always give you a loss.

Hey UmerIdrees, I noticed you are writing Kholi instead of Kohli, you did it yesterday as well Grin

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Missed watching the match today and right enough India lost. I'm glad now I did not follow it as it looks like the score is nearing 140s all the time. Rohit again lost his wicket and I feel this guy needs to rest and they should bring in Rahul. Mostly all the big batsmen lost with Rohit and even Virat failed. Not being superstitious but looking at the score, the number 9 and 4 is scary. The scores are all 9, 19, 4, 14. Dhawan got the highest with 36. SA was lucky that we don't have Bumrah or Shami to take wickets. They managed just 1 wicket which is really horrible. Bad batting and miserable bowling.

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