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Quote from: JSRAW on March 02, 2023, 05:40:44 PM

Normally gate collection hardly generates big profits (unless tickets are pricy) and sometimes it's pocket change for the BCCI so better to pack stands with free women's entry and earn some points.

Also, the packed stadium looks good on tele and it seems their main aim is to bring more women into the stadium, which is a very good sign for women's cricket or women's sports in general.

For the initial 2-3 years, maybe BCCI can toy with the idea of providing free entry to a limited number of fans (especially students). But gate collection is not that insignificant. I don't know how much the tickets for WPL is going to cost, but IPL tickets are priced from ₹800 to ₹35,000 (for matches involving Mumbai Indians at Wankhede stadium). Assuming an average of ₹2,000 per viewer, if 25,000 fans attend the match, the gate collection will amount to ₹50,000,000 per match. After tax and all the cuts, it should be enough to at least pay for the security and other expenses. And don't think that people are not interested in women's cricket. There is a surge in popularity within India recently.

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What a Fantastic Marketing Strategy by BCCI!

WPL will commence on the 4th of March and tickets are now available for purchase on the BookMyShow app. Tickets are priced at INR 100 & INR 400 respectively. What made me my day was when I saw on the app that tickets are free for women on a first come first basis. Do you think any other board can beat this marketing strategy?
[img..]https://i.imgur.com/tdXJEfMl.jpg[/img]

I guess it's fair to say that BCCI knows how to present and sell a product.

This strategy is going to be really hard to beat. And the BCCI knows very well that there will be a lot less spectators on the ground to see women playing cricket. So making a certain number of tickets free is going to ensure that there are of course people on the ground watching the games. This way the tickets are also going to be sold out. I mean the tickets would have been sold out anyway in my opinion. But this "free" idea is going to keep people more interested.

Normally gate collection hardly generates big profits (unless tickets are pricy) and sometimes it's pocket change for the BCCI so better to pack stands with free women's entry and earn some points.

Also, the packed stadium looks good on tele and it seems their main aim is to bring more women into the stadium, which is a very good sign for women's cricket or women's sports in general.

That's really a good marketing strategy as well as it gives an overview that BCCI is giving importance to Women. I find this to be good initiative, and this needs to continue in the upcoming years of WIPL. Only thing annoying is the number of teams. If they've planned better, surely more teams would've got into the league. Anyhow it is just the beginning for another big league of the future. Cheesy

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 02, 2023, 01:49:27 PM

Quote from: pakhitheboss on March 02, 2023, 05:17:00 AM

What a Fantastic Marketing Strategy by BCCI!

WPL will commence on the 4th of March and tickets are now available for purchase on the BookMyShow app. Tickets are priced at INR 100 & INR 400 respectively. What made me my day was when I saw on the app that tickets are free for women on a first come first basis. Do you think any other board can beat this marketing strategy?
[img..]https://i.imgur.com/tdXJEfMl.jpg[/img]

I guess it's fair to say that BCCI knows how to present and sell a product.

This strategy is going to be really hard to beat. And the BCCI knows very well that there will be a lot less spectators on the ground to see women playing cricket. So making a certain number of tickets free is going to ensure that there are of course people on the ground watching the games. This way the tickets are also going to be sold out. I mean the tickets would have been sold out anyway in my opinion. But this "free" idea is going to keep people more interested.

Normally gate collection hardly generates big profits (unless tickets are pricy) and sometimes it's pocket change for the BCCI so better to pack stands with free women's entry and earn some points.

Also, the packed stadium looks good on tele and it seems their main aim is to bring more women into the stadium, which is a very good sign for women's cricket or women's sports in general.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on March 02, 2023, 05:17:00 AM

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What made me my day was when I saw on the app that tickets are free for women on a first come first basis. Do you think any other board can beat this marketing strategy?

It is a good marketing strategy hoping that Women will be flocking into the stadium to witness these events because they need a grand opening with a full capacity crowd and they need to excite the fans to have purchasing power for the BCCI later on. Globally the complaint by Women athletes are that they are not getting equal pay as men ignoring the fact that Women are not able to pull in the same revenue but if WIPL can excite fans then it will be a great beginning for Women's sports.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 02, 2023, 01:49:27 PM

Quote from: pakhitheboss on March 02, 2023, 05:17:00 AM

What a Fantastic Marketing Strategy by BCCI!

WPL will commence on the 4th of March and tickets are now available for purchase on the BookMyShow app. Tickets are priced at INR 100 & INR 400 respectively. What made me my day was when I saw on the app that tickets are free for women on a first come first basis. Do you think any other board can beat this marketing strategy?
[img..]https://i.imgur.com/tdXJEfMl.jpg[/img]

I guess it's fair to say that BCCI knows how to present and sell a product.

This strategy is going to be really hard to beat. And the BCCI knows very well that there will be a lot less spectators on the ground to see women playing cricket. So making a certain number of tickets free is going to ensure that there are of course people on the ground watching the games. This way the tickets are also going to be sold out. I mean the tickets would have been sold out anyway in my opinion. But this "free" idea is going to keep people more interested.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 02, 2023, 01:40:52 AM

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The CEO of South African Cricket, Pholetsi Moseki says they, along with the commissioner of the SA20 Graeme Smith, have intentions of establishing a women's version of the T20, but they need more teams before they can implement it.

Source : https://www.sowetanlive.co.za/sport/cricket/2023-03-01-we-need-more-players-for-us-to-implement-womens-t20-moseki/

I watched many of the World Cup matches and I agree with him that the quality of the cricket are high enough to merit a T20 tournament. I think this world cup in South Africa sparked a lot of interest in the game for many women en school kids, so we might see something in the future. Wink

I don't understand the sudden interest being shown by some of these boards in establishing women's franchise leagues. 15 years ago, when the ECB and CA invested heavily in franchise leagues for women, the other boards were making fun of them. Now they have noticed that these two teams (Australia and England) are dominating women's cricket because of that visionary step. BTW, I don't know how the CSA will get any profits out of this league. Even their men's league (SA20) is struggling to make profits.

Yeah, these guys are late and kinda missed a trick but at least they are waking up now and it's a big positive for Women's cricket, so I won't criticize them as it's better late than never.

I think it's already established that no one expects massive returns on Women's cricket (financially), self-sustainability is everyone's main goal and they should cross the line with a better products.

Quote from: pakhitheboss on March 02, 2023, 05:17:00 AM

What a Fantastic Marketing Strategy by BCCI!

WPL will commence on the 4th of March and tickets are now available for purchase on the BookMyShow app. Tickets are priced at INR 100 & INR 400 respectively. What made me my day was when I saw on the app that tickets are free for women on a first come first basis. Do you think any other board can beat this marketing strategy?

[img..]https://i.imgur.com/tdXJEfMl.jpg[/img]

I guess it's fair to say that BCCI knows how to present and sell a product.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 02, 2023, 01:40:52 AM

Quote from: Kakmakr on March 02, 2023, 12:51:16 AM

The CEO of South African Cricket, Pholetsi Moseki says they, along with the commissioner of the SA20 Graeme Smith, have intentions of establishing a women's version of the T20, but they need more teams before they can implement it.
Source : https://www.sowetanlive.co.za/sport/cricket/2023-03-01-we-need-more-players-for-us-to-implement-womens-t20-moseki/
I watched many of the World Cup matches and I agree with him that the quality of the cricket are high enough to merit a T20 tournament. I think this world cup in South Africa sparked a lot of interest in the game for many women en school kids, so we might see something in the future. Wink

I don't understand the sudden interest being shown by some of these boards in establishing women's franchise leagues. 15 years ago, when the ECB and CA invested heavily in franchise leagues for women, the other boards were making fun of them. Now they have noticed that these two teams (Australia and England) are dominating women's cricket because of that visionary step. BTW, I don't know how the CSA will get any profits out of this league. Even their men's league (SA20) is struggling to make profits.

Main reason for these cricket boards to show interest in women's cricket is the start of women's IPL in my opinion. With the certain popularity of women's IPL, more and more cricket boards are going to arrange women's T20 leagues. And that is going to bring in good revenue.

If we talk about profits, I am quite certain that in some way South Africa will find a way to actually find profit. At this moment even I am not sure how. But it is going to be tough. In a country where men cricketers are very popular and still not being able to generate a good amount of money, it is going to be hard for women to bring profit for sure.

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What a Fantastic Marketing Strategy by BCCI!

WPL will commence on the 4th of March and tickets are now available for purchase on the BookMyShow app. Tickets are priced at INR 100 & INR 400 respectively. What made me my day was when I saw on the app that tickets are free for women on a first come first basis. Do you think any other board can beat this marketing strategy?

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 02, 2023, 01:40:52 AM

Quote from: Kakmakr on March 02, 2023, 12:51:16 AM

The CEO of South African Cricket, Pholetsi Moseki says they, along with the commissioner of the SA20 Graeme Smith, have intentions of establishing a women's version of the T20, but they need more teams before they can implement it.

Source : https://www.sowetanlive.co.za/sport/cricket/2023-03-01-we-need-more-players-for-us-to-implement-womens-t20-moseki/

I watched many of the World Cup matches and I agree with him that the quality of the cricket are high enough to merit a T20 tournament. I think this world cup in South Africa sparked a lot of interest in the game for many women en school kids, so we might see something in the future. Wink

I don't understand the sudden interest being shown by some of these boards in establishing women's franchise leagues. 15 years ago, when the ECB and CA invested heavily in franchise leagues for women, the other boards were making fun of them. Now they have noticed that these two teams (Australia and England) are dominating women's cricket because of that visionary step. BTW, I don't know how the CSA will get any profits out of this league. Even their men's league (SA20) is struggling to make profits.

That's true this world cup is a reminder for all women cricket boards and their countries that Australia and England are dominating in cricket world and winning again and again, so they are thinking to work on their women teams to improve standards and bringing trophies to home.

South Africa women team have shown great improvement and performance in recent World Cup.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on March 02, 2023, 12:51:16 AM

The CEO of South African Cricket, Pholetsi Moseki says they, along with the commissioner of the SA20 Graeme Smith, have intentions of establishing a women's version of the T20, but they need more teams before they can implement it.

Source : https://www.sowetanlive.co.za/sport/cricket/2023-03-01-we-need-more-players-for-us-to-implement-womens-t20-moseki/

I watched many of the World Cup matches and I agree with him that the quality of the cricket are high enough to merit a T20 tournament. I think this world cup in South Africa sparked a lot of interest in the game for many women en school kids, so we might see something in the future. Wink

I don't understand the sudden interest being shown by some of these boards in establishing women's franchise leagues. 15 years ago, when the ECB and CA invested heavily in franchise leagues for women, the other boards were making fun of them. Now they have noticed that these two teams (Australia and England) are dominating women's cricket because of that visionary step. BTW, I don't know how the CSA will get any profits out of this league. Even their men's league (SA20) is struggling to make profits.

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The CEO of South African Cricket, Pholetsi Moseki says they, along with the commissioner of the SA20 Graeme Smith, have intentions of establishing a women's version of the T20, but they need more teams before they can implement it.

Source : https://www.sowetanlive.co.za/sport/cricket/2023-03-01-we-need-more-players-for-us-to-implement-womens-t20-moseki/

I watched many of the World Cup matches and I agree with him that the quality of the cricket are high enough to merit a T20 tournament. I think this world cup in South Africa sparked a lot of interest in the game for many women en school kids, so we might see something in the future. Wink

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on March 01, 2023, 10:45:24 PM

The South African women's team is very lucky to have qualified for the finals. It was unexpected for me to see the South African team in the final. The performance of the England women's team suddenly deteriorated in the semi-finals. Despite leading at the start of the innings, their batting slowed down after 10 overs and they failed to win. However, South Africa did not have a strong and experienced squad to win against the likes of Australia in the final. Despite qualifying for the finals, this team lacks experienced players.

England Women vs. South Africa Women, in the Semi-Final match, England start well but lost their rhythm towards the end which resulted in South Africa Women qualifying for the final. Two South African bowlers must be praised in that match. Ayabonga Khaka and Shabnim Ismail managed to pick up a total of seven wickets at 4 and 3 respectively. However, playing the Final match as the host country is a big achievement for the South Africa Women team. However, we know that they were not qualified enough to play against the Australian women's team. It could have been more exciting if Australia Women and England Women participate in the final match.

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At times it feels like South Africa Women team is unlucky. Maybe its true, because the similar situation is with the Men's team. They have good team and they easily get out of the tournament at the early stages. Atleast in Women's cricket they've come close to the winning. In men's cricket they don't even reach the finals in all the three formats of cricket.

Why do you think so? I thought that they were lucky to win the semi-final match against England. They were on backfoot during the chase, but then the England middle and lower order collapsed. And during the final, they were simply outclassed by a vastly superior team (Australia). On top of that, they had the advantage of playing at home. If anyone was unfortunate, it was the Indian women's team. Look at the way Harmanpreet Kaur got run out. I don't know whether it was unfortunate or just plain stupid, but that made them lose the match.

The South African women's team is very lucky to have qualified for the finals. It was unexpected for me to see the South African team in the final. The performance of the England women's team suddenly deteriorated in the semi-finals. Despite leading at the start of the innings, their batting slowed down after 10 overs and they failed to win. However, South Africa did not have a strong and experienced squad to win against the likes of Australia in the final. Despite qualifying for the finals, this team lacks experienced players.

I agree with you that the Indian women's team had very poor luck in this world cup. Because before the start of the World Cup, the Indian women's team had performed well in several series. And the Indian team was the favourite for this year's World Cup. But in the World Cup, we did not get the expected good performance from the Indian women's team.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 01, 2023, 08:43:13 PM

If anyone was unfortunate, it was the Indian women's team. Look at the way Harmanpreet Kaur got run out. I don't know whether it was unfortunate or just plain stupid, but that made them lose the match.

I do not think the Indian side was unfortunate. I believe they lost because they were not good enough against the Australian side. I also believe the controversial runout of Harmanpreet Kaur could have been avoided if she had dived rather than trying to stretch her bat. I do not understand why everyone is still thinking about this humiliating defeat as unfortunate or unlucky. Smriti Mandhana & Shafali Verma could have given a good start but failed to do so. Renuka Thakur who has been touted as a replacement for Jhulan Goswami was ineffective throughout the tournament. The problem with the Indian team was that they were overconfident rather being confident in this tournament.

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Quote from: n0ne on March 01, 2023, 06:10:09 PM

At times it feels like South Africa Women team is unlucky. Maybe its true, because the similar situation is with the Men's team. They have good team and they easily get out of the tournament at the early stages. Atleast in Women's cricket they've come close to the winning. In men's cricket they don't even reach the finals in all the three formats of cricket.

Why do you think so? I thought that they were lucky to win the semi-final match against England. They were on backfoot during the chase, but then the England middle and lower order collapsed. And during the final, they were simply outclassed by a vastly superior team (Australia). On top of that, they had the advantage of playing at home. If anyone was unfortunate, it was the Indian women's team. Look at the way Harmanpreet Kaur got run out. I don't know whether it was unfortunate or just plain stupid, but that made them lose the match.

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The ICC Women's T20 World Cup final match was truly remarkable. I have enjoyed this game since the beginning I really like it. In the final match, Australia won the toss and batted first, collecting 156 runs for 6 wickets in the allotted 20 overs. The hosts lost 6 wickets in the scheduled 20 overs and stopped at 137 runs. Australia won the women's T20 final match for the third consecutive time after defeating South Africa. With this, Australia won the world's best title for the 6th time in T20. My best wishes and congratulations to Australia for winning this World Cup final match.

Australia was a strong team from the start of the tournament and they rightly deserve to win this tournament.

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No doubt, Australia Women team is strong from the beginning of the tournament.
Against South Africa won by 19 runs to lift the trophy.

ICC women's T20 world cup 2023, Australia women's cricket team went undefeated to become the champions of this tournament. Australia women's cricket team remained undefeated from the start and won the title by defeating South Africa women's team in the final. With this, Australia women's team won the honor of winning the ICC Women's Twenty20 tournament for the sixth time. But one thing is very sad that the South African women's cricket team met in the final for the third time and each time they lost and had to settle for the consolation of runners-up.

At times it feels like South Africa Women team is unlucky. Maybe its true, because the similar situation is with the Men's team. They have good team and they easily get out of the tournament at the early stages. Atleast in Women's cricket they've come close to the winning. In men's cricket they don't even reach the finals in all the three formats of cricket.

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It was very disappointing from Isle of Man. IoM is one of the few European teams with a 100% native squad. They are a small island located between Ireland and England, having their own distinct culture and language (Manx). On the other hand, half of the Spanish squad were foreigners (still better than teams like Norway and Belgium, which doesn't even have a single citizen in their squads). Naturally I wanted IoM to win, but they lost in a very unfortunate way. Anyway, this was just a friendly series and will have no impact on their prospects to qualify for the 2024 T20 World Cup.

The team of Isle of Man is not composed to cricket players rather they just gather few people and send them to play cricket. If the team have even average type of players we wouldn't witness such a horrible performance. Team of Spain is composed of expats (mostly from South Asia).
There must be some regulations where ICC must ensure that a country is sending proper cricket team to avoid such embarrassing match results.

Actually the Isle of Man is not a very weak team. I regularly follow associate cricket, and they have performed credibly in the ICC tournaments. Recently, they participated in the ICC Men's T20 World Cup Europe Qualifier. In this tournament, they finished at the top position in Group 2 of Qualifier A. They won all 4 of their matches, however lost the final match to Group1 topper Italy. If they had won the match against Italy, then IoM could have qualified for the regional final (from where top 2 qualify for the T20 World Cup in 2024).

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Quote from: noormcs5 on February 27, 2023, 10:50:40 AM

Quote from: Rigon on February 27, 2023, 12:48:58 AM

The ICC Women's T20 World Cup final match was truly remarkable. I have enjoyed this game since the beginning I really like it. In the final match, Australia won the toss and batted first, collecting 156 runs for 6 wickets in the allotted 20 overs. The hosts lost 6 wickets in the scheduled 20 overs and stopped at 137 runs. Australia won the women's T20 final match for the third consecutive time after defeating South Africa. With this, Australia won the world's best title for the 6th time in T20. My best wishes and congratulations to Australia for winning this World Cup final match.

Australia was a strong team from the start of the tournament and they rightly deserve to win this tournament.

Quote from: n0ne on February 27, 2023, 11:01:37 AM

No doubt, Australia Women team is strong from the beginning of the tournament.
Against South Africa won by 19 runs to lift the trophy.

ICC women's T20 world cup 2023, Australia women's cricket team went undefeated to become the champions of this tournament. Australia women's cricket team remained undefeated from the start and won the title by defeating South Africa women's team in the final. With this, Australia women's team won the honor of winning the ICC Women's Twenty20 tournament for the sixth time. But one thing is very sad that the South African women's cricket team met in the final for the third time and each time they lost and had to settle for the consolation of runners-up.

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Quote from: WatChe on February 27, 2023, 11:35:14 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on February 27, 2023, 09:29:48 PM

It was very disappointing from Isle of Man. IoM is one of the few European teams with a 100% native squad. They are a small island located between Ireland and England, having their own distinct culture and language (Manx). On the other hand, half of the Spanish squad were foreigners (still better than teams like Norway and Belgium, which doesn't even have a single citizen in their squads). Naturally I wanted IoM to win, but they lost in a very unfortunate way. Anyway, this was just a friendly series and will have no impact on their prospects to qualify for the 2024 T20 World Cup.

The team of Isle of Man is not composed to cricket players rather they just gather few people and send them to play cricket. If the team have even average type of players we wouldn't witness such a horrible performance. Team of Spain is composed of expats (mostly from South Asia).
There must be some regulations where ICC must ensure that a country is sending proper cricket team to avoid such embarrassing match results.

Actually the Isle of Man is not a very weak team. I regularly follow associate cricket, and they have performed credibly in the ICC tournaments. Recently, they participated in the ICC Men's T20 World Cup Europe Qualifier. In this tournament, they finished at the top position in Group 2 of Qualifier A. They won all 4 of their matches, however lost the final match to Group1 topper Italy. If they had won the match against Italy, then IoM could have qualified for the regional final (from where top 2 qualify for the T20 World Cup in 2024).

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 27, 2023, 09:29:48 PM

It was very disappointing from Isle of Man. IoM is one of the few European teams with a 100% native squad. They are a small island located between Ireland and England, having their own distinct culture and language (Manx). On the other hand, half of the Spanish squad were foreigners (still better than teams like Norway and Belgium, which doesn't even have a single citizen in their squads). Naturally I wanted IoM to win, but they lost in a very unfortunate way. Anyway, this was just a friendly series and will have no impact on their prospects to qualify for the 2024 T20 World Cup.

The team of Isle of Man is not composed to cricket players rather they just gather few people and send them to play cricket. If the team have even average type of players we wouldn't witness such a horrible performance. Team of Spain is composed of expats (mostly from South Asia).
There must be some regulations where ICC must ensure that a country is sending proper cricket team to avoid such embarrassing match results.

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