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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on March 11, 2022, 06:03:29 PM

Shakib Al Hasan recently got a central contract from BCB and earlier he was not having that i believe as he was banned and having some issues with their cricket board and may be that has everything to do with his career in the IPL as well. When it comes to teaching some player a lesson, they cricket boards will come together, other than that there is no reason for his exclusion.

Don't want to take sides here. From what I can see from the previous posts, the general impression here is that Shakib is at least partly to be blamed for his own issues. The ego war between him and the BCB is not doing any favors to the Bangladesh cricket. In the end, it is cricket that suffers. Bangladesh has remained below par, at least in test format ever since they were awarded the full membership. These sort of issues are not helping. Perhaps now it is time for the ICC to step in and clean up the administration in Bangladesh.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 11, 2022, 09:26:05 AM

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If you go with rankings, Shakib in all rounder category is no 4th in Tests, 1st in ODI and 2 in T20I rankings. With such extraordinary rankings don't know why he is still not picked by IPL despite the fact he is not from Pakistan. Every year IPL gives too many surprises in terms of players that went unsold.

I believe this is the main reason him going cheaply or unsold in last 2-3 season.

Shakib Al Hasan recently got a central contract from BCB and earlier he was not having that i believe as he was banned and having some issues with their cricket board and may be that has everything to do with his career in the IPL as well. When it comes to teaching some player a lesson, they cricket boards will come together, other than that there is no reason for his exclusion.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 11, 2022, 09:26:05 AM

He's been into top 4-5 all rounders test ranking for god knows how many years, consistently. Currently No 1 all rounder in ODI and also No 2 all rounder in T-20. Now you tell me why shouldn't we speak highly of him?

Rankings aren't everything. ICC rankings have always been questionable and they don't usually tell the complete picture. I do agree that he is a legendary all-rounder, but he sucks big-time in the IPL which is a fact.

Quote from: JSRAW on March 11, 2022, 09:26:05 AM

I agree in recent time his IPL numbers are not that great with the bat but it's not because he's bad batter. It's just that he always bat down the order according to situation.

Recent times? I disagree. I watched him play in several IPL teams over the years and his performances were almost always mediocre. Batting down the order etc are just bad excuses.

Quote from: Mr.Scott on March 11, 2022, 12:26:35 PM

This person knows how to manipulate the system, get sympathies, and do silly things to benefit himself. He is quite normal in that regard.

Spot on. He is the opposite of a gentleman frankly speaking. He raced ahead of Kohli in this particular aspect.

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Quote from: galambo on March 11, 2022, 02:07:23 PM

There is good news for shakib ul hassan fans while we discuss here that he is ignored by his board and he is underrated player. He get central contract in all three formats Apart from Shakib, the BCB continued with Mushfiqur Rahim, Litton Das, Taskin Ahmed and Shoriful Islam for the all-formats contracts, just as they had in 2021

No matter how strange Shakib Al Hasan may be, he is still the best player in Bangladesh. The Bangladesh board has yet to find a player to replace him. Although Bangladesh has a lot of young talented players, the board of Bangladesh has not been able to develop these players properly. And so Bangladesh still depends a lot on Shakib to win the match. And that is why Shakib is in the central contract of BCB.

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There is good news for shakib ul hassan fans while we discuss here that he is ignored by his board and he is underrated player. He get central contract in all three formats Apart from Shakib, the BCB continued with Mushfiqur Rahim, Litton Das, Taskin Ahmed and Shoriful Islam for the all-formats contracts, just as they had in 2021

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That's why the Bangladesh cricket board always made him look like a villain to the media and public. The overall situation of Bangladesh cricket is not good just because of the stupid people that are running the board.

Nobody can make you look villain unless you do stupid things that made you look villain. There are numerous videos of this guy available where he is doing silly things.

Shakib Al Hasan is one of the most talented cricketers in Bangladesh. The media has covered him well and he has decent followers on social media. This person knows how to manipulate the system, get sympathies, and do silly things to benefit himself. He is quite normal in that regard.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 11, 2022, 09:26:05 AM

Ha!

He's been into top 4-5 all rounders test ranking for god knows how many years, consistently. Currently No 1 all rounder in ODI and also No 2 all rounder in T-20. Now you tell me why shouldn't we speak highly of him?

I agree in recent time his IPL numbers are not that great with the bat but it's not because he's bad batter. It's just that he always bat down the order according to situation. Having said that I think he's underrated player in modern cricket, only because he's not from PIG 3 or Pakistan.

If you go with rankings, Shakib in all rounder category is no 4th in Tests, 1st in ODI and 2 in T20I rankings. With such extraordinary rankings don't know why he is still not picked by IPL despite the fact he is not from Pakistan. Every year IPL gives too many surprises in terms of players that went unsold.

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That's why the Bangladesh cricket board always made him look like a villain to the media and public. The overall situation of Bangladesh cricket is not good just because of the stupid people that are running the board.

Nobody can make you look villain unless you do stupid things that made you look villain. There are numerous videos of this guy available where he is doing silly things.

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As far as his IPL career is concern, i believe BCB is culprit here. They never give him any clear idea if he can take part in full IPL season and when its not clear (which is necessary), then he attracts low bid (last year) or no bid at all (This year).

Why in the world are you people praising Shakib to high heavens? I agree that he is easily one of the best all-rounders in Cricket history and is basically a legend, but his personality and character suck big-time.

We all know how many controversies he has been part of over the years. This is why I don't find it surprising that he had a fallout with the BCB most probably due to ego issues on both sides.

Also, his IPL career has been mediocre so far to say the least which is why it makes sense why no franchise expressed any interest in him.

Ha!

He's been into top 4-5 all rounders test ranking for god knows how many years, consistently. Currently No 1 all rounder in ODI and also No 2 all rounder in T-20. Now you tell me why shouldn't we speak highly of him?

I agree in recent time his IPL numbers are not that great with the bat but it's not because he's bad batter. It's just that he always bat down the order according to situation. Having said that I think he's underrated player in modern cricket, only because he's not from PIG 3 or Pakistan.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on March 11, 2022, 09:35:31 AM

If you go with rankings, Shakib in all rounder category is no 4th in Tests, 1st in ODI and 2 in T20I rankings. With such extraordinary rankings don't know why he is still not picked by IPL despite the fact he is not from Pakistan. Every year IPL gives too many surprises in terms of players that went unsold.

I believe this is the main reason him going cheaply or unsold in last 2-3 season.

Quote from: JSRAW on March 10, 2022, 10:18:02 AM

As far as his IPL career is concern, i believe BCB is culprit here. They never give him any clear idea if he can take part in full IPL season and when its not clear (which is necessary), then he attracts low bid (last year) or no bid at all (This year). Don't take his wife social media's allegations, clarification etc very seriously, chances are Shakib is handling her account.

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And about Shakib Al Hasan playing the 2022 IPL, I cannot understand and am at a loss. Because in mid-February I saw a news that his wife said he will not be playing the IPL because he has international duties. And now this. Why would he do something like this if it's not for the IPL?

The fact that Shakib was not picked up by any of the IPL franchises has to do something with the scandal in which he was involved earlier. He was banned for one year, for failing to report the approach from a bookie, during one of the IPL matches. That said, it is an open secret that the Bangladeshi cricket board has a stormy relationship with Shakib. Both the sides were involved in open conflicts more than once, and Shakib never received the support from his cricket board when he faced difficulties in his career.

^ Actually, Shakib Al Hassan has good enough reasons to have some beef with the board. People who are on the Bangladesh cricket board are not qualified for the job and still, they are not removed from their place. Hasan is the best cricketer in the world and he did not get that spot for free. He earned it, and if he wants he can do a lot of things that probably the other cricketers cannot.
That's why the Bangladesh cricket board always made him look like a villain to the media and public. The overall situation of Bangladesh cricket is not good just because of the stupid people that are running the board.

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Quote from: Haunebu on March 10, 2022, 02:54:50 PM

Why in the world are you people praising Shakib to high heavens? I agree that he is easily one of the best all-rounders in Cricket history and is basically a legend, but his personality and character suck big-time.

We all know how many controversies he has been part of over the years. This is why I don't find it surprising that he had a fallout with the BCB most probably due to ego issues on both sides.

Also, his IPL career has been mediocre so far to say the least which is why it makes sense why no franchise expressed any interest in him.

Similar sort of situation was seen in BCCI and kohli recent row but BCCI take a bold decision and tool back all three format captaincy from Kohli. So now kohli will be a disciplined player. Same sort of decision must be taken by all boards if there is something related to discipline no matter how key a player is.
BCB keep compromising despite Shakib continuous discipline issues. That's why he never maintained his discipline.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 10, 2022, 10:18:02 AM

As far as his IPL career is concern, i believe BCB is culprit here. They never give him any clear idea if he can take part in full IPL season and when its not clear (which is necessary), then he attracts low bid (last year) or no bid at all (This year).

Why in the world are you people praising Shakib to high heavens? I agree that he is easily one of the best all-rounders in Cricket history and is basically a legend, but his personality and character suck big-time.

We all know how many controversies he has been part of over the years. This is why I don't find it surprising that he had a fallout with the BCB most probably due to ego issues on both sides.

Also, his IPL career has been mediocre so far to say the least which is why it makes sense why no franchise expressed any interest in him.

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Quote from: repear7 on March 10, 2022, 10:54:04 AM

The president of the Bangladesh Cricket Board and those who run the game will not allow any good players to be made from their country. Shakib doesn't get help from the board because Shakib always protests the right time for him. There are many good players in Bangladesh but they are not given a chance. I still don't know exactly why Shakib was not bought in IPL. Many good players are being ruined due to extra politics of Bangladesh Cricket Board.

Surely politics has big influence in BCB and just because of this they never have any proper set up even now after introduction of BPL they are having some good income and Government is also helping them for having some good set up which is worst for them and allowing players like Shakib to blackmail management on these occasions. Here they need to take some good stance as right now they have few very good players those can provide them good services in future without any problem.

But foremost they need to do some hard work for bringing transparency in their set-up and encourage youths to develop their skills on merits instead of giving bribery or having any other shortcut which is never been suitable for game and these youths.

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And about Shakib Al Hasan playing the 2022 IPL, I cannot understand and am at a loss. Because in mid-February I saw a news that his wife said he will not be playing the IPL because he has international duties. And now this. Why would he do something like this if it's not for the IPL?

The fact that Shakib was not picked up by any of the IPL franchises has to do something with the scandal in which he was involved earlier. He was banned for one year, for failing to report the approach from a bookie, during one of the IPL matches. That said, it is an open secret that the Bangladeshi cricket board has a stormy relationship with Shakib. Both the sides were involved in open conflicts more than once, and Shakib never received the support from his cricket board when he faced difficulties in his career.

Thank you for clarifying that he cant play IPL 2022 because of his previous scandal. These days icc is very much after fixing and small boards can't help there players if found involved in any such scandal. Shakib is lucky that he is still playing international cricket despite being so ill disciplined. If he has in country like Australia, England his career would be long ago over.

The president of the Bangladesh Cricket Board and those who run the game will not allow any good players to be made from their country. Shakib doesn't get help from the board because Shakib always protests the right time for him. There are many good players in Bangladesh but they are not given a chance. I still don't know exactly why Shakib was not bought in IPL. Many good players are being ruined due to extra politics of Bangladesh Cricket Board.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on March 09, 2022, 02:48:52 PM

The thing is there is a big communication gap between the board and the players in Bangladesh. And the main reason for it is most people in the Bangladesh cricket board are not qualified for their job, to be honest.

We all know that Shakib Al Hasan is a really important player for Bangladesh because he is the best player in the world. But the board does not give him that type of importance. And the board also needs to realize something he is 34.

They really need to look for a replacement for Shakib Al Hasan. But I think Mashrafe Mortaza said it right.

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There is no replacement for Shakib Al Hasan in the whole world. How do you expect to find the replacement of Shakib Al Hasan in Bangladesh?

And about Shakib Al Hasan playing the 2022 IPL, I cannot understand and am at a loss. Because in mid-February I saw a news that his wife said he will not be playing the IPL because he has international duties. And now this. Why would he do something like this if it's not for the IPL?

BCB main complaint with Shakib is that he's not taking Test cricket seriously, mainly away series. Every time there is any away tour is schedule, Shakib pull out his name for various reason and its becoming a norm for him.

Shakib feels that board didn't treat him fairly, specially BCB's president and sometime it does look like that they are running character assassination campaign against him, not sure what's the real story.

So its clear that BCB and Shakib are not in good term and both parties have genuine grievances. From neutral point of view it looks like Shakib genuinely wants to retire from the Test cricket but Board is against it.

As far as his IPL career is concern, i believe BCB is culprit here. They never give him any clear idea if he can take part in full IPL season and when its not clear (which is necessary), then he attracts low bid (last year) or no bid at all (This year). Don't take his wife social media's allegations, clarification etc very seriously, chances are Shakib is handling her account.

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And about Shakib Al Hasan playing the 2022 IPL, I cannot understand and am at a loss. Because in mid-February I saw a news that his wife said he will not be playing the IPL because he has international duties. And now this. Why would he do something like this if it's not for the IPL?

The fact that Shakib was not picked up by any of the IPL franchises has to do something with the scandal in which he was involved earlier. He was banned for one year, for failing to report the approach from a bookie, during one of the IPL matches. That said, it is an open secret that the Bangladeshi cricket board has a stormy relationship with Shakib. Both the sides were involved in open conflicts more than once, and Shakib never received the support from his cricket board when he faced difficulties in his career.

Thank you for clarifying that he cant play IPL 2022 because of his previous scandal. These days icc is very much after fixing and small boards can't help there players if found involved in any such scandal. Shakib is lucky that he is still playing international cricket despite being so ill disciplined. If he has in country like Australia, England his career would be long ago over.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on March 09, 2022, 02:48:52 PM

And about Shakib Al Hasan playing the 2022 IPL, I cannot understand and am at a loss. Because in mid-February I saw a news that his wife said he will not be playing the IPL because he has international duties. And now this. Why would he do something like this if it's not for the IPL?

The fact that Shakib was not picked up by any of the IPL franchises has to do something with the scandal in which he was involved earlier. He was banned for one year, for failing to report the approach from a bookie, during one of the IPL matches. That said, it is an open secret that the Bangladeshi cricket board has a stormy relationship with Shakib. Both the sides were involved in open conflicts more than once, and Shakib never received the support from his cricket board when he faced difficulties in his career.

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Recently I was reading that he had never been good against India, so this is also acceptable because when he was on top in India we have some greatest batsmen those were great in playing spin, and they have great time with their technique at home which give them this disadvantage.

It is true that Shane Warne had a hard time playing against India, he made his debut against India and Ravi Shastri scored a double century in that match and he never had a great time playing against India. The next time he toured India, Sachin Tendulkar was in his prime form and it was a great battle and Sachin Tendulkar took Shane Warne and he won the series against Australia when they were literally defeating every other country.

Shane Warne was a great bowler but his stats are not great against India.
see this: https://www.sportsadda.com/cricket/features/shane-warne-record-stats-india

I don't think that the state is bad but considering that he was the greatest leg spin bowler ever and dominated almost every other batting team this certainly looks a little below par.
But in his defense, India has always been a great batting team who plays spin really great particularly.

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Well, I have a question, what do you think is going to attract you more when you are an athlete at the age of 34?
Your international duty or for the tournament where you can get a lot of money from?
I think the answer is simple. And there is a reason why he actually prefers IPL over international cricket. Because the Bangladesh board is not in a great position right now and only those who are really connected with Bangladesh cricket know about that.

Can he still play IPL 2022? He and Adam Zampa remained unsold in mega auction. Players like shakib have played alot of international cricket from there country and I don't think money can be an issue for such a senior player who has been part of every T20 league.
Boards must have some regulations on players about there national duty and T20 leagues.

The thing is there is a big communication gap between the board and the players in Bangladesh. And the main reason for it is most people in the Bangladesh cricket board are not qualified for their job, to be honest.

We all know that Shakib Al Hasan is a really important player for Bangladesh because he is the best player in the world. But the board does not give him that type of importance. And the board also needs to realize something he is 34.

They really need to look for a replacement for Shakib Al Hasan. But I think Mashrafe Mortaza said it right.

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There is no replacement for Shakib Al Hasan in the whole world. How do you expect to find the replacement of Shakib Al Hasan in Bangladesh?

And about Shakib Al Hasan playing the 2022 IPL, I cannot understand and am at a loss. Because in mid-February I saw a news that his wife said he will not be playing the IPL because he has international duties. And now this. Why would he do something like this if it's not for the IPL?

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on March 09, 2022, 02:06:24 PM

Well, I have a question, what do you think is going to attract you more when you are an athlete at the age of 34?

Your international duty or for the tournament where you can get a lot of money from?

I think the answer is simple. And there is a reason why he actually prefers IPL over international cricket. Because the Bangladesh board is not in a great position right now and only those who are really connected with Bangladesh cricket know about that.

Can he still play IPL 2022? He and Adam Zampa remained unsold in mega auction. Players like shakib have played alot of international cricket from there country and I don't think money can be an issue for such a senior player who has been part of every T20 league.
Boards must have some regulations on players about there national duty and T20 leagues.

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Last T-20 series Bangladesh vs Afghanistan was really enjoyable. Both team played well and this was level 1-1.Both team played good cricket. Afghanistan legi spinner and Bangladeshi spinner bowler's performance was good and pesser also. Waiting for IPL.2-3week after IPL start.Every cricket fan waiting for IPL.

@Mamun74 IPL hasn’t yet began, but there’s already a controversy on Bangladesh player Skahib decision of skipping national duty, citing fatigue when he had submitted his name to play in the IPL. Also it’s pertinent to note that he wasn’t picked by any teams in the IPL, and the selectors have rightly raised an important question was he trying to pick IPL over national duty, if yes then I believe that they should immediately drop him as they should only have player’s committed to playing for the national team.

Well, I have a question, what do you think is going to attract you more when you are an athlete at the age of 34?

Your international duty or for the tournament where you can get a lot of money from?

I think the answer is simple. And there is a reason why he actually prefers IPL over international cricket. Because the Bangladesh board is not in a great position right now and only those who are really connected with Bangladesh cricket know about that.

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