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Actually JSRAW explained why he was picked and that is mainly due to his performance in the domestic level and not because of any secret deal that is going on as expected. I checked out his domestic average which is well above 55 and played over 100 first class matches and has the reputation of scoring big hundreds as per his profile when i checked.

Yes, he did well in the Ranji trophy, I'll give you that. But was he better than the other options that they had? And by other options, we are obviously talking about Ravichandran Ashwin and Ravindra Jadeja.

I really don't think that he is at the same level as these two players. These two players give a lot more stability to the team in both batting and bowling which Hanuma Vihari cannot provide. But obviously, that's my opinion and opinions can differ.

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Quote from: jaberwock on March 17, 2022, 05:11:56 PM

This Nepotism, Personal links and bribery is all now part of this cricket game in subcontinent as it is most famous game and many peoples want to have some name and wealth through this so from this we have many bad players and some done good like we have Imam-ul-Haque he is nephew of Legendary Pakistan captain Inzi and now doing good even have some good criticism but still going through and now done some magical performance against Australian side so it is almost part of culture we can't ignore this until we have very strong domestic system and boards without any political influence which is not possible in next few decades because of their deep connections.

But still BCCI is having some better policies and this is giving them some good benefits and skilled players those are performing at top level in good way.

Imam ul haq no matter how good he performs has made his way to national team only because of his uncle Inzama ul Haq. Another such player is usman qadir who is son of Pakistani cricketer Abdul Qadir. Can't say about BCCI and BCB but this nepotism has greatly ruined every field of life in Pakistan not just cricket. Its part of culture now.

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Hanuma Vihari is one of those players who have benefitted immensely from nepotism within the selection board. Look at his test record and you will be surprised to know that manytimes he was preferred instead of quality players such as Shreyas Iyer and Ravindra Jadeja. That said, I am still perplexed by the stand taken by the BCCI. They are banning players from participating in franchise T20 leagues around the world (including those who haven't played any international cricket) and at the same time they have allowed these players in the DPL.

Nepotism goes a long way everywhere in every department and in every society. There is no use of discussing who deserves what. It is seen so much in cricket in film industry and in all the fields around the world. But what I believe - BCCI does very serious decisions based on their own interest. Who would care for the national interest though?

This Nepotism, Personal links and bribery is all now part of this cricket game in subcontinent as it is most famous game and many peoples want to have some name and wealth through this so from this we have many bad players and some done good like we have Imam-ul-Haque he is nephew of Legendary Pakistan captain Inzi and now doing good even have some good criticism but still going through and now done some magical performance against Australian side so it is almost part of culture we can't ignore this until we have very strong domestic system and boards without any political influence which is not possible in next few decades because of their deep connections.

But still BCCI is having some better policies and this is giving them some good benefits and skilled players those are performing at top level in good way.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 16, 2022, 10:08:36 PM

Hanuma Vihari is one of those players who have benefitted immensely from nepotism within the selection board. Look at his test record and you will be surprised to know that manytimes he was preferred instead of quality players such as Shreyas Iyer and Ravindra Jadeja. That said, I am still perplexed by the stand taken by the BCCI. They are banning players from participating in franchise T20 leagues around the world (including those who haven't played any international cricket) and at the same time they have allowed these players in the DPL.

Nepotism goes a long way everywhere in every department and in every society. There is no use of discussing who deserves what. It is seen so much in cricket in film industry and in all the fields around the world. But what I believe - BCCI does very serious decisions based on their own interest. Who would care for the national interest though?

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Quote from: Iranus on March 17, 2022, 12:06:43 PM

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I actually never thought Hanuma Vihari to be a player of the top level. I really didn't think he was any good, at least he was not better than the players that were playing in his position.

Actually, I really don't understand why the BCCI is making these types of rules. If there is a certain rule, in my opinion, that should be applied to everybody. I understand that maybe they wanted these players to have more playtime but why is it not the same for the others? Angry

Actually JSRAW explained why he was picked and that is mainly due to his performance in the domestic level and not because of any secret deal that is going on as expected. I checked out his domestic average which is well above 55 and played over 100 first class matches and has the reputation of scoring big hundreds as per his profile when i checked.

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The T20 leagues are becoming game changer for players that haven't played any international cricket so far. Pakistan has included two new faces for ODI and T20I against Australia and both are picked from PSL 2022. For t20 and ODI boards are only focusing on T20 leagues performance.

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Wicketkeeper-batter Haris was a destructive hitter for Peshawar Zalmi during the Pakistan Super League, scoring 166 runs in five matches at a hugely impressive strike rate of 186.5

And left-arm spinner Asif took eight wickets in five games for the Multan Sultans, bowling impressively for much of the PSL.

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Hanuma Vihari is playing test cricket from India and if he is going to Bangladesh then definitely he is going with bcci permission. Haven't seen any Indian team player in big bash or other leagues. These 7 players are going to Bangladesh since they are unsold in IPL, its best in there interest to play other league.

Hanuma Vihari is one of those players who have benefitted immensely from nepotism within the selection board. Look at his test record and you will be surprised to know that manytimes he was preferred instead of quality players such as Shreyas Iyer and Ravindra Jadeja. That said, I am still perplexed by the stand taken by the BCCI. They are banning players from participating in franchise T20 leagues around the world (including those who haven't played any international cricket) and at the same time they have allowed these players in the DPL.

I actually never thought Hanuma Vihari to be a player of the top level. I really didn't think he was any good, at least he was not better than the players that were playing in his position.

Actually, I really don't understand why the BCCI is making these types of rules. If there is a certain rule, in my opinion, that should be applied to everybody. I understand that maybe they wanted these players to have more playtime but why is it not the same for the others? Angry

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Hanuma Vihari is playing test cricket from India and if he is going to Bangladesh then definitely he is going with bcci permission. Haven't seen any Indian team player in big bash or other leagues. These 7 players are going to Bangladesh since they are unsold in IPL, its best in there interest to play other league.

Hanuma Vihari is one of those players who have benefitted immensely from nepotism within the selection board. Look at his test record and you will be surprised to know that manytimes he was preferred instead of quality players such as Shreyas Iyer and Ravindra Jadeja. That said, I am still perplexed by the stand taken by the BCCI. They are banning players from participating in franchise T20 leagues around the world (including those who haven't played any international cricket) and at the same time they have allowed these players in the DPL.

Just for the record. This highlighted statement made by Sithara didi is not correct. She just hate the poor guy Vihari for unknown reasons. Grin

Vihari didn't get his test cap due to nepotism but his performance in Ranji Trophy and India A tour (2018). In 2018 season his average was 94, only 2 guys were ahead of him Mayank Aggarwal and AnmolPreet. Former also got the chance to represent the test due to his performance but latter was relatively new and inexperienced in domestic.

Source : Ranji stats

Its true Shreyas didn't get the chance to represent the team earlier but Vihari was not the reason as mentioned by Sithara. Shreyas had 2 excellent season 2015, 2016 (After that his performance went down) but at that time India was looking at guys like Pujara-Kohli-Rahane trio. In fact Hanuma Vihari also got the late test cap call due to this Pujara-Kohli-Rahane Trio.

Even after Vihari got the test call up, his place wasn't confirm because team management wanted to persist with existing middle order. That's why they Vihari used as a quick fix, only when someone was injured or unavailable. Look at his batting order in his short career. When we had no opener, he opened the inning. When we had no middle order he came to bat at 5,6 and when we had no Jadeja/Ashwin he came at number 7.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 16, 2022, 10:08:36 PM

Hanuma Vihari is one of those players who have benefitted immensely from nepotism within the selection board. Look at his test record and you will be surprised to know that manytimes he was preferred instead of quality players such as Shreyas Iyer and Ravindra Jadeja. That said, I am still perplexed by the stand taken by the BCCI. They are banning players from participating in franchise T20 leagues around the world (including those who haven't played any international cricket) and at the same time they have allowed these players in the DPL.

If we see stats of Vihari then in his 26 test innings he has scored just 808 runs with 1 century and 5 fifties. These are just average stats for a player who is a regular batsmen. I don't know why he is preferred so much, thanks for clarifying the issue.
Regarding DPL, I think India has good relations with Bangladesh that's why they sending there players there. Just my own guess.

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Quote from: coinism on March 16, 2022, 08:49:59 AM

Hanuma Vihari is playing test cricket from India and if he is going to Bangladesh then definitely he is going with bcci permission. Haven't seen any Indian team player in big bash or other leagues. These 7 players are going to Bangladesh since they are unsold in IPL, its best in there interest to play other league.

Hanuma Vihari is one of those players who have benefitted immensely from nepotism within the selection board. Look at his test record and you will be surprised to know that manytimes he was preferred instead of quality players such as Shreyas Iyer and Ravindra Jadeja. That said, I am still perplexed by the stand taken by the BCCI. They are banning players from participating in franchise T20 leagues around the world (including those who haven't played any international cricket) and at the same time they have allowed these players in the DPL.

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Bangladesh's domestic league is completely fixed. And the Bangladesh Board is well aware of this. This is now an open secret. However, Bangladesh Cricket Board has not taken any necessary steps to stop the fixing. Due to this fixing, many young talented players lost interest in cricket. The careers of many talented players are ruined. First of all the board officials have to be honest. Then we have to try to solve the internal problems.

Bangladesh still doesn't have a proper domestic setup. It is still dominated by clubs within the capital city of Dhaka. Teams outside Dhaka fail to get any recognition. And when the setup is dominated by a few private clubs, it can be expected that at least some form of corruption and nepotism will be there. More than two decades have passed since Bangladesh got the test status. Till now, they (BCB) have failed to transform to a region-based domestic league, by replacing the Dhaka-based structure.

The domestic setup in Bangladesh is really shitty and it needs a lot of improvement. There are a lot of issues of match-fixing and we often see that the umpires are favoring a specific side in almost every match.

we can often see that the powerful gloves are always favored by the umpires. And unless the domestic setup gets much better the pipeline of Bangladesh cricket will always be below average.

Obviously, the fixing issue needs to get fixed really soon. and for that to be happening BCB needs to take some important and necessary steps. but, you know that the powerful club owners probably have a good relationship with the BCB, so I don't know how that will work out.

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I actually didn't know that. but I think this is a really good Step taken by the BCCI. This will certainly be allowed the players to have a lot more playtime who are not regular in the Indian team.

And I am quite sure that this is happening with the consent of BCCI otherwise I don't see how these players can play outside India. These players will also play against players like Mohammad Hafeez and Sikandar Raza so they will Be able to gain a lot of experience too.

After T20 WC 2021, BCCI was criticised for not allowing Indian players to play other leagues and that results in there poor performance at international events. I guess bcci has realized its high time to allow atleast those players who are unsold at IPL or domestic players to go out and play in other countries.

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Bangladesh's domestic league is completely fixed. And the Bangladesh Board is well aware of this. This is now an open secret. However, Bangladesh Cricket Board has not taken any necessary steps to stop the fixing. Due to this fixing, many young talented players lost interest in cricket. The careers of many talented players are ruined. First of all the board officials have to be honest. Then we have to try to solve the internal problems.

Bangladesh still doesn't have a proper domestic setup. It is still dominated by clubs within the capital city of Dhaka. Teams outside Dhaka fail to get any recognition. And when the setup is dominated by a few private clubs, it can be expected that at least some form of corruption and nepotism will be there. More than two decades have passed since Bangladesh got the test status. Till now, they (BCB) have failed to transform to a region-based domestic league, by replacing the Dhaka-based structure.

Bangladesh is not a big country. So everything is centered on the capital Dhaka. So there is no big club outside Dhaka. The BCB should try to eliminate fixing from their domestic leagues. Moreover, a few days ago we saw the Bangladesh Premier League. BPL was in a very bad position. Until the mindset of the Bangladesh Board officials changes, we will not see any improvement in the Bangladesh team.

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According to this article 7 Indian players are going to participate, safe to say other foreign players are also taking part. Seems good approach.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/hanuma-vihari-among-seven-indians-to-play-in-dhaka-premier-league-101647331419131.html

That's an interesting news, my understanding is that BCCI did not allowed his players to take part in any other foreign leagues. Indian test team member Hanuma Vihari is also among these 7 players that signed for DPL teams. My question is that are these 7 players going with BCCI consent?
Regarding other foreign players, "Besides these seven Indians, veteran Pakistan cricketer Mohammad Hafeez will play for Mohammedan Sporting while Zimbabwe's Sikandar Raza will play for Shinepukur."

@blatchcorn BCCI does allows player’s to play in county cricket outside India, hence it’s not at all surprising to see that they have allowed these player’s to participate in DPL as these player’s will get valuable match experience.
Lastly as far as I remember each Indian team player needs to take permission from BCCI for participating in any league outside India, and I don’t have any particular link for this, but I’m 100% confident that they need BCCI permission before signing for any county or T20 league outside India.

I actually didn't know that. but I think this is a really good Step taken by the BCCI. This will certainly be allowed the players to have a lot more playtime who are not regular in the Indian team.

And I am quite sure that this is happening with the consent of BCCI otherwise I don't see how these players can play outside India. These players will also play against players like Mohammad Hafeez and Sikandar Raza so they will Be able to gain a lot of experience too.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on March 16, 2022, 06:22:39 AM

@blatchcorn BCCI does allows player’s to play in county cricket outside India, hence it’s not at all surprising to see that they have allowed these player’s to participate in DPL as these player’s will get valuable match experience.

Lastly as far as I remember each Indian team player needs to take permission from BCCI for participating in any league outside India, and I don’t have any particular link for this, but I’m 100% confident that they need BCCI permission before signing for any county or T20 league outside India.

Hanuma Vihari is playing test cricket from India and if he is going to Bangladesh then definitely he is going with bcci permission. Haven't seen any Indian team player in big bash or other leagues. These 7 players are going to Bangladesh since they are unsold in IPL, its best in there interest to play other league.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 16, 2022, 02:27:39 AM

According to this article 7 Indian players are going to participate, safe to say other foreign players are also taking part. Seems good approach.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/hanuma-vihari-among-seven-indians-to-play-in-dhaka-premier-league-101647331419131.html

That's an interesting news, my understanding is that BCCI did not allowed his players to take part in any other foreign leagues. Indian test team member Hanuma Vihari is also among these 7 players that signed for DPL teams. My question is that are these 7 players going with BCCI consent?
Regarding other foreign players, "Besides these seven Indians, veteran Pakistan cricketer Mohammad Hafeez will play for Mohammedan Sporting while Zimbabwe's Sikandar Raza will play for Shinepukur."

@blatchcorn BCCI does allows player’s to play in county cricket outside India, hence it’s not at all surprising to see that they have allowed these player’s to participate in DPL as these player’s will get valuable match experience.

Lastly as far as I remember each Indian team player needs to take permission from BCCI for participating in any league outside India, and I don’t have any particular link for this, but I’m 100% confident that they need BCCI permission before signing for any county or T20 league outside India.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 16, 2022, 02:27:39 AM

According to this article 7 Indian players are going to participate, safe to say other foreign players are also taking part. Seems good approach.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/hanuma-vihari-among-seven-indians-to-play-in-dhaka-premier-league-101647331419131.html

That's an interesting news, my understanding is that BCCI did not allowed his players to take part in any other foreign leagues. Indian test team member Hanuma Vihari is also among these 7 players that signed for DPL teams. My question is that are these 7 players going with BCCI consent?
Regarding other foreign players, "Besides these seven Indians, veteran Pakistan cricketer Mohammad Hafeez will play for Mohammedan Sporting while Zimbabwe's Sikandar Raza will play for Shinepukur."

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^^ Regarding their domestic setup. I recently got to know that Bangladesh allow foreign players to take participate in their domestic Dhaka Premier League, 50 overs format i suppose.

According to this article 7 Indian players are going to participate, safe to say other foreign players are also taking part. Seems good approach.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/hanuma-vihari-among-seven-indians-to-play-in-dhaka-premier-league-101647331419131.html

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on March 15, 2022, 02:31:23 PM

Bangladesh's domestic league is completely fixed. And the Bangladesh Board is well aware of this. This is now an open secret. However, Bangladesh Cricket Board has not taken any necessary steps to stop the fixing. Due to this fixing, many young talented players lost interest in cricket. The careers of many talented players are ruined. First of all the board officials have to be honest. Then we have to try to solve the internal problems.

Bangladesh still doesn't have a proper domestic setup. It is still dominated by clubs within the capital city of Dhaka. Teams outside Dhaka fail to get any recognition. And when the setup is dominated by a few private clubs, it can be expected that at least some form of corruption and nepotism will be there. More than two decades have passed since Bangladesh got the test status. Till now, they (BCB) have failed to transform to a region-based domestic league, by replacing the Dhaka-based structure.

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Bangladesh is playing international cricket for 3 to 4 decades and they are test playing country for almost 2 decades but still they are not a recognized team mostly they are at level of an associate team. I dont think BCB is the only problem, Bangladesh doesnt have the talent that can play good cricket at international level. Is there any single player that can be seen as threat to big teams?

It is not that there are no talented players in Bangladesh team. They have a lot of talented players. The problem in Bangladesh is that the board is not caring or responsible towards the players. Players cannot play well if they are talented. He has to be experienced. They need to know how to perform on which type of pitch. And it is the responsibility of the management and the coach to make the players experienced. Bangladesh's management and coaches are neither good. Despite having a lot of money, they are reluctant to hire experienced coaches. As a result, the team is not improving.

There are obviously a lot of talented players in Bangladesh who can be great players one day if nurtured well. But, no one seems to want to do the nurturing job.
The actual true story in Bangladesh domestic cricket is that before the match starts the umpire says to one team, ""Today we have an assignment. Our decision will be unfair for you.""
And after that how many players do you think are going to try to win the match, or even have the mentality to even try? Would you like to go on and play a match knowing that it doesn't matter what you do, you are going to lose today?

Bangladesh's domestic league is completely fixed. And the Bangladesh Board is well aware of this. This is now an open secret. However, Bangladesh Cricket Board has not taken any necessary steps to stop the fixing. Due to this fixing, many young talented players lost interest in cricket. The careers of many talented players are ruined. First of all the board officials have to be honest. Then we have to try to solve the internal problems.

The officials ruin the cricketing in Bangladesh. In specific the board members of Bangladesh doesn't have any cricketing experience as well as doesn't care of the industry. The board is completely corrupted. When the board members were elected, it needs to choose the right members. Such act ruins the cricketing career as well makes other cricket teams have an bad impression over Bangladesh cricket.

In recent years slowly they're moving forward with good wins, this too will gets affected though the match fixing is taking place in the domestic league.

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