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Quote from: laurenB7742 on March 09, 2022, 02:48:52 PM

And about Shakib Al Hasan playing the 2022 IPL, I cannot understand and am at a loss. Because in mid-February I saw a news that his wife said he will not be playing the IPL because he has international duties. And now this. Why would he do something like this if it's not for the IPL?

The fact that Shakib was not picked up by any of the IPL franchises has to do something with the scandal in which he was involved earlier. He was banned for one year, for failing to report the approach from a bookie, during one of the IPL matches. That said, it is an open secret that the Bangladeshi cricket board has a stormy relationship with Shakib. Both the sides were involved in open conflicts more than once, and Shakib never received the support from his cricket board when he faced difficulties in his career.

Thank you for clarifying that he cant play IPL 2022 because of his previous scandal. These days icc is very much after fixing and small boards can't help there players if found involved in any such scandal. Shakib is lucky that he is still playing international cricket despite being so ill disciplined. If he has in country like Australia, England his career would be long ago over.

The president of the Bangladesh Cricket Board and those who run the game will not allow any good players to be made from their country. Shakib doesn't get help from the board because Shakib always protests the right time for him. There are many good players in Bangladesh but they are not given a chance. I still don't know exactly why Shakib was not bought in IPL. Many good players are being ruined due to extra politics of Bangladesh Cricket Board.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on March 09, 2022, 02:48:52 PM

The thing is there is a big communication gap between the board and the players in Bangladesh. And the main reason for it is most people in the Bangladesh cricket board are not qualified for their job, to be honest.

We all know that Shakib Al Hasan is a really important player for Bangladesh because he is the best player in the world. But the board does not give him that type of importance. And the board also needs to realize something he is 34.

They really need to look for a replacement for Shakib Al Hasan. But I think Mashrafe Mortaza said it right.

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There is no replacement for Shakib Al Hasan in the whole world. How do you expect to find the replacement of Shakib Al Hasan in Bangladesh?

And about Shakib Al Hasan playing the 2022 IPL, I cannot understand and am at a loss. Because in mid-February I saw a news that his wife said he will not be playing the IPL because he has international duties. And now this. Why would he do something like this if it's not for the IPL?

BCB main complaint with Shakib is that he's not taking Test cricket seriously, mainly away series. Every time there is any away tour is schedule, Shakib pull out his name for various reason and its becoming a norm for him.

Shakib feels that board didn't treat him fairly, specially BCB's president and sometime it does look like that they are running character assassination campaign against him, not sure what's the real story.

So its clear that BCB and Shakib are not in good term and both parties have genuine grievances. From neutral point of view it looks like Shakib genuinely wants to retire from the Test cricket but Board is against it.

As far as his IPL career is concern, i believe BCB is culprit here. They never give him any clear idea if he can take part in full IPL season and when its not clear (which is necessary), then he attracts low bid (last year) or no bid at all (This year). Don't take his wife social media's allegations, clarification etc very seriously, chances are Shakib is handling her account.

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And about Shakib Al Hasan playing the 2022 IPL, I cannot understand and am at a loss. Because in mid-February I saw a news that his wife said he will not be playing the IPL because he has international duties. And now this. Why would he do something like this if it's not for the IPL?

The fact that Shakib was not picked up by any of the IPL franchises has to do something with the scandal in which he was involved earlier. He was banned for one year, for failing to report the approach from a bookie, during one of the IPL matches. That said, it is an open secret that the Bangladeshi cricket board has a stormy relationship with Shakib. Both the sides were involved in open conflicts more than once, and Shakib never received the support from his cricket board when he faced difficulties in his career.

Thank you for clarifying that he cant play IPL 2022 because of his previous scandal. These days icc is very much after fixing and small boards can't help there players if found involved in any such scandal. Shakib is lucky that he is still playing international cricket despite being so ill disciplined. If he has in country like Australia, England his career would be long ago over.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on March 09, 2022, 02:48:52 PM

And about Shakib Al Hasan playing the 2022 IPL, I cannot understand and am at a loss. Because in mid-February I saw a news that his wife said he will not be playing the IPL because he has international duties. And now this. Why would he do something like this if it's not for the IPL?

The fact that Shakib was not picked up by any of the IPL franchises has to do something with the scandal in which he was involved earlier. He was banned for one year, for failing to report the approach from a bookie, during one of the IPL matches. That said, it is an open secret that the Bangladeshi cricket board has a stormy relationship with Shakib. Both the sides were involved in open conflicts more than once, and Shakib never received the support from his cricket board when he faced difficulties in his career.

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Recently I was reading that he had never been good against India, so this is also acceptable because when he was on top in India we have some greatest batsmen those were great in playing spin, and they have great time with their technique at home which give them this disadvantage.

It is true that Shane Warne had a hard time playing against India, he made his debut against India and Ravi Shastri scored a double century in that match and he never had a great time playing against India. The next time he toured India, Sachin Tendulkar was in his prime form and it was a great battle and Sachin Tendulkar took Shane Warne and he won the series against Australia when they were literally defeating every other country.

Shane Warne was a great bowler but his stats are not great against India.
see this: https://www.sportsadda.com/cricket/features/shane-warne-record-stats-india

I don't think that the state is bad but considering that he was the greatest leg spin bowler ever and dominated almost every other batting team this certainly looks a little below par.
But in his defense, India has always been a great batting team who plays spin really great particularly.

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Well, I have a question, what do you think is going to attract you more when you are an athlete at the age of 34?
Your international duty or for the tournament where you can get a lot of money from?
I think the answer is simple. And there is a reason why he actually prefers IPL over international cricket. Because the Bangladesh board is not in a great position right now and only those who are really connected with Bangladesh cricket know about that.

Can he still play IPL 2022? He and Adam Zampa remained unsold in mega auction. Players like shakib have played alot of international cricket from there country and I don't think money can be an issue for such a senior player who has been part of every T20 league.
Boards must have some regulations on players about there national duty and T20 leagues.

The thing is there is a big communication gap between the board and the players in Bangladesh. And the main reason for it is most people in the Bangladesh cricket board are not qualified for their job, to be honest.

We all know that Shakib Al Hasan is a really important player for Bangladesh because he is the best player in the world. But the board does not give him that type of importance. And the board also needs to realize something he is 34.

They really need to look for a replacement for Shakib Al Hasan. But I think Mashrafe Mortaza said it right.

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There is no replacement for Shakib Al Hasan in the whole world. How do you expect to find the replacement of Shakib Al Hasan in Bangladesh?

And about Shakib Al Hasan playing the 2022 IPL, I cannot understand and am at a loss. Because in mid-February I saw a news that his wife said he will not be playing the IPL because he has international duties. And now this. Why would he do something like this if it's not for the IPL?

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on March 09, 2022, 02:06:24 PM

Well, I have a question, what do you think is going to attract you more when you are an athlete at the age of 34?

Your international duty or for the tournament where you can get a lot of money from?

I think the answer is simple. And there is a reason why he actually prefers IPL over international cricket. Because the Bangladesh board is not in a great position right now and only those who are really connected with Bangladesh cricket know about that.

Can he still play IPL 2022? He and Adam Zampa remained unsold in mega auction. Players like shakib have played alot of international cricket from there country and I don't think money can be an issue for such a senior player who has been part of every T20 league.
Boards must have some regulations on players about there national duty and T20 leagues.

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Last T-20 series Bangladesh vs Afghanistan was really enjoyable. Both team played well and this was level 1-1.Both team played good cricket. Afghanistan legi spinner and Bangladeshi spinner bowler's performance was good and pesser also. Waiting for IPL.2-3week after IPL start.Every cricket fan waiting for IPL.

@Mamun74 IPL hasn’t yet began, but there’s already a controversy on Bangladesh player Skahib decision of skipping national duty, citing fatigue when he had submitted his name to play in the IPL. Also it’s pertinent to note that he wasn’t picked by any teams in the IPL, and the selectors have rightly raised an important question was he trying to pick IPL over national duty, if yes then I believe that they should immediately drop him as they should only have player’s committed to playing for the national team.

Well, I have a question, what do you think is going to attract you more when you are an athlete at the age of 34?

Your international duty or for the tournament where you can get a lot of money from?

I think the answer is simple. And there is a reason why he actually prefers IPL over international cricket. Because the Bangladesh board is not in a great position right now and only those who are really connected with Bangladesh cricket know about that.

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Last T-20 series Bangladesh vs Afghanistan was really enjoyable. Both team played well and this was level 1-1.Both team played good cricket. Afghanistan legi spinner and Bangladeshi spinner bowler's performance was good and pesser also. Waiting for IPL.2-3week after IPL start.Every cricket fan waiting for IPL.

@Mamun74 IPL hasn’t yet began, but there’s already a controversy on Bangladesh player Skahib decision of skipping national duty, citing fatigue when he had submitted his name to play in the IPL. Also it’s pertinent to note that he wasn’t picked by any teams in the IPL, and the selectors have rightly raised an important question was he trying to pick IPL over national duty, if yes then I believe that they should immediately drop him as they should only have player’s committed to playing for the national team.

"We have decided that in Shakib's interest, since he is mentally and physically unfit, we want to give him rest from all forms of cricket, till April 30". Thats what I read on espncricinfo.com
As you said he is not picked up by any team in IPL 2022 then skipping national duty doesn't mean he is going to play IPL. AFAIK, players need NOC from board in order to play any league. I don't think this controversy has any truth in it.

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I only knew that he is from Tamil Nadu, region where Tamil's are fighting against the central government. Never knew that he is only Tamil and Hindu player to be part of SL national squad. Thanks for sharing this valuable insight.

WTF man?

Muralitharan is a Sri Lankan citizen and he, along with his parents were born in Sri Lanka. Tamils are not fighting against the central government in Tamil Nadu (which is a part of India). There is an ongoing conflict in Sri Lanka, where the Jaffna and Eastern Tamils are fighting for the recognition of their religion and language. Muralitharan is an Estate (Central) Tamil and his group is not involved in any of these conflicts. Muralitharan on the other hand, worked a lot to build good relationship between the Sinhalese Buddhists and the Tamil Hindus.

I agree with you. The only relation of Muttiah Muralitharan with India is that he played his one-day international debut match against India. Other than that I don't find anything relatable with Muttiah Muralitharan and India. As far as I also know, he is a Sri Lankan citizen by birth. I have no idea from where the information was taken and I would really like to know about the source of the information.

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Quote from: Mamun74 on March 08, 2022, 03:14:40 PM

Last T-20 series Bangladesh vs Afghanistan was really enjoyable. Both team played well and this was level 1-1.Both team played good cricket. Afghanistan legi spinner and Bangladeshi spinner bowler's performance was good and pesser also. Waiting for IPL.2-3week after IPL start.Every cricket fan waiting for IPL.

@Mamun74 IPL hasn’t yet began, but there’s already a controversy on Bangladesh player Skahib decision of skipping national duty, citing fatigue when he had submitted his name to play in the IPL. Also it’s pertinent to note that he wasn’t picked by any teams in the IPL, and the selectors have rightly raised an important question was he trying to pick IPL over national duty, if yes then I believe that they should immediately drop him as they should only have player’s committed to playing for the national team.

Now in near future we will face some good number of controversies like this because franchise cricket is going to grow in very quick way and this is good for players to have some good money from them as many boards are not able to provide any finances compare to these franchise in small boards, so hopefully we will have some better policy regarding this issue and all parties try to settle things in positive way right now any issue like this can create more problems for this game of cricket which is already having too many issues just because of personal ego's and political base.

Now we can't afford any controversy like this which create negative impact on this game and relationship between players and boards.

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Quote from: Mamun74 on March 08, 2022, 03:14:40 PM

Last T-20 series Bangladesh vs Afghanistan was really enjoyable. Both team played well and this was level 1-1.Both team played good cricket. Afghanistan legi spinner and Bangladeshi spinner bowler's performance was good and pesser also. Waiting for IPL.2-3week after IPL start.Every cricket fan waiting for IPL.

@Mamun74 IPL hasn’t yet began, but there’s already a controversy on Bangladesh player Skahib decision of skipping national duty, citing fatigue when he had submitted his name to play in the IPL. Also it’s pertinent to note that he wasn’t picked by any teams in the IPL, and the selectors have rightly raised an important question was he trying to pick IPL over national duty, if yes then I believe that they should immediately drop him as they should only have player’s committed to playing for the national team.

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The whole world came to a standstill with the death of Shane Warne . No one ever thought he would die so soon. In fact, death never comes to anyone. And whoever is born has death, it must be accepted. The amount he has recorded in the history of cricket is unimaginable. It goes without saying that there is no second leg spinner like him. I pray for him to be well on the other side.

I would say he is the second one the number one is Murli dharan of Sri Lanka. Both have wonderful contributions for there country. Its my personal choice to rate Murli as number one spinner.

"The autopsy in Thailand has confirmed death by natural causes" source. So we have a conclusion that his death is natural and there is nothing suspicious about death of this legendary spinner.

I would say, the death of Shane Warne is a big loss. But that is the law of nature, we all are going one day. The reality is we don't accept the fact the person who is so fit on the ground will also leave for his/her eternal adobe. That is something which has happened to all the Warne fans. We hardly accept that sportsman can be unfit fit as well they they leave too soon, God bless the departed soul.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on March 08, 2022, 03:02:29 AM

I only knew that he is from Tamil Nadu, region where Tamil's are fighting against the central government. Never knew that he is only Tamil and Hindu player to be part of SL national squad. Thanks for sharing this valuable insight.

WTF man?

Muralitharan is a Sri Lankan citizen and he, along with his parents were born in Sri Lanka. Tamils are not fighting against the central government in Tamil Nadu (which is a part of India). There is an ongoing conflict in Sri Lanka, where the Jaffna and Eastern Tamils are fighting for the recognition of their religion and language. Muralitharan is an Estate (Central) Tamil and his group is not involved in any of these conflicts. Muralitharan on the other hand, worked a lot to build good relationship between the Sinhalese Buddhists and the Tamil Hindus.

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Quote from: perfect999 on March 07, 2022, 04:54:39 PM

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Recently I was reading that he had never been good against India, so this is also acceptable because when he was on top in India we have some greatest batsmen those were great in playing spin, and they have great time with their technique at home which give them this disadvantage.

It is true that Shane Warne had a hard time playing against India, he made his debut against India and Ravi Shastri scored a double century in that match and he never had a great time playing against India. The next time he toured India, Sachin Tendulkar was in his prime form and it was a great battle and Sachin Tendulkar took Shane Warne and he won the series against Australia when they were literally defeating every other country.

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All that said, Muralitharan had a huge impact outside cricket. He was the binding force in a country where half a million people lost their lives in ethnic and religious conflict. And if I am not wrong, he remains as the only Tamil Hindu to appear for Sri Lanka in international cricket (although they are 15% of the population, the team is mostly comprised of other ethnic groups).

I only knew that he is from Tamil Nadu, region where Tamil's are fighting against the central government. Never knew that he is only Tamil and Hindu player to be part of SL national squad. Thanks for sharing this valuable insight.

Rather than Tamils fighting against Central government, it is much about the Tamil Eezham issue where thousands were killed. There was plans of making Muralidharan's life as a movie and were on talks with a Tamil movie actor named Vijay Sethupathi, but this created controversy as he have spoken against Tamils and his movie shouldn't be made.

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The actor decided to play Sri lankan cricketer Muttiah Muralidharan in his biographical picture, a huge controversy took place among the Tamil speaking audience. Many who believed that Muttiah Muralidharan supported Srilankan government regarding the “Eezham” attack, demanded Vijay Sethupathi not to act in the film. As a result of the severe outrage that emerged against him, Vijay Sethupathi decided not to act in the film

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Last T-20 series Bangladesh vs Afghanistan was really enjoyable. Both team played well and this was level 1-1.Both team played good cricket. Afghanistan legi spinner and Bangladeshi spinner bowler's performance was good and pesser also. Waiting for IPL.2-3week after IPL start.Every cricket fan waiting for IPL.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 07, 2022, 10:22:18 PM

It depends. Muttiah Muralitharan is also a controversial figure and he was called out multiple times for chucking (by Australian umpires). The ICC concluded that the bend in his arm is natural and therefore allowed him to bowl. But it is no secret that he got some advantage from his medical condition.

Same advantage was given to Shoaib Akhtar also (if I am wrong). Both Shoaib and Murli are lucky enough to play in era when small boards have some say in ICC. If they both were playing in current era they were banned straight away, for instance, Saeed Ajmal and now Muhammad Hasnain are banned for there illegal bowling action by ICC. Saeed Ajmal was indicated by English umpires while Hasnain is was indicated by Aussies umpires.

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All that said, Muralitharan had a huge impact outside cricket. He was the binding force in a country where half a million people lost their lives in ethnic and religious conflict. And if I am not wrong, he remains as the only Tamil Hindu to appear for Sri Lanka in international cricket (although they are 15% of the population, the team is mostly comprised of other ethnic groups).

I only knew that he is from Tamil Nadu, region where Tamil's are fighting against the central government. Never knew that he is only Tamil and Hindu player to be part of SL national squad. Thanks for sharing this valuable insight.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 07, 2022, 10:22:18 PM

Muttiah Muralitharan is also a controversial figure and he was called out multiple times for chucking (by Australian umpires). The ICC concluded that the bend in his arm is natural and therefore allowed him to bowl. But it is no secret that he got some advantage from his medical condition. All that said, Muralitharan had a huge impact outside cricket. He was the binding force in a country where half a million people lost their lives in ethnic and religious conflict. And if I am not wrong, he remains as the only Tamil Hindu to appear for Sri Lanka in international cricket (although they are 15% of the population, the team is mostly comprised of other ethnic groups).

Medical advantage help Murali for having the good number of wickets even he is currently at top of list for all time wicket takers but still he was not famous like Shane Warn because without any doubt Shane Warn is legendary spinner with his quality and skills in spin.

Even we have some good number of quality spinners in India but sadly no one done things like Shane Warn which bring them in limelight Kumble was also not as he needs to be due to his speedy bowling but Abdul Qadir from Pakistan was one of genius but sadly due to some internal politics he lost his career early and fail to have any impact on this game but still Shane Warn give him some good respect.

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Quote from: mm2543363580 on March 07, 2022, 01:08:53 PM

I would say he is the second one the number one is Murli dharan of Sri Lanka. Both have wonderful contributions for there country. Its my personal choice to rate Murli as number one spinner.

"The autopsy in Thailand has confirmed death by natural causes" source. So we have a conclusion that his death is natural and there is nothing suspicious about death of this legendary spinner.

It depends. Muttiah Muralitharan is also a controversial figure and he was called out multiple times for chucking (by Australian umpires). The ICC concluded that the bend in his arm is natural and therefore allowed him to bowl. But it is no secret that he got some advantage from his medical condition. All that said, Muralitharan had a huge impact outside cricket. He was the binding force in a country where half a million people lost their lives in ethnic and religious conflict. And if I am not wrong, he remains as the only Tamil Hindu to appear for Sri Lanka in international cricket (although they are 15% of the population, the team is mostly comprised of other ethnic groups).

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