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Topic: TalkImg.com - Image hosting for BitcoinTalk - page 5. (Read 18515 times)

legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
November 06, 2024, 03:11:09 PM
Never a boring time in bitcointalk Sad
I am reporting that talkimg images are not working in forum again and they look like constantly loading but never opening.
Maybe this attackers are not only trying to hurt talkimg website but also to damage bitcointalk forum.

"They" are trying to stop the BTC price from pumping, but their efforts, so far, are not working.

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legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 4711
**In BTC since 2013**
November 06, 2024, 03:07:35 PM
- If joker_josue merely promises that no logs are kept, then I think that that is sufficient for now, and I will exempt TalkImg from the proxy, once TalkImg is working again.
Joker_joshue just posted IP-addresses (used in the DDOS). His webhost may not even allow him to not keep logs.

These IPs were obtained through Cloudflare data. I had never used Cloudflare for talkimg.com before, this is the first time and so I had access to this data.

Now, it is true that many host servers do this logging, even temporarily. But, to access them, you will need to do a deeper investigation. I don't even have time to scratch my itch, let alone scrape IPs... I have more to do in life.




If the attack is still going on in a few days, I'll consider measures like these:
 - If there are any image hosts run by trustworthy companies where the privacy policy says that they don't keep logs, these could be exempted from the proxy. If you know of any, let me know.
 - Maybe bitcointalk.org could pay TalkImg a monthly fee for a contractual guarantee that they won't keep logs. TalkImg could then be exempted from the proxy, and furthermore they would have more resources to function well.
 - Bitcointalk.org could add support for uploading images directly.

First of all, I thank you for your trust, but as I say in the OP, I do not record any information. The only thing that is recorded in the database is the IP of the person who uploaded the image for spam control or upload cascade purposes..

Therefore, I am available to work to improve and follow the standards requested by Bitcointalk.
hero member
Activity: 510
Merit: 574
Too Little, Too Late.
November 06, 2024, 03:03:12 PM
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So if anyone is ultra-paranoid, be aware that your browser may start making connections to talkimg.com sometime soon. If you're really opposed to that, block it via a hosts file or something.
Code:
127.0.0.1       talkimg.com
127.0.0.1       www.talkimg.com

for those who don't know, you can find the hosts files (on windows) at this path: C:\Windows\System32\Drivers\etc\hosts
be sure to open notepad as an administrator and open the path from in notepad, otherwise you would not be able to save your edit.

if you do this, you will not be able to see any images hosted on talkimg.com, just so you know!

legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 3878
Hire Bitcointalk Camp. Manager @ r7promotions.com
November 06, 2024, 02:47:25 PM
This also applies to other image hosting sites like postimg.cc and imgbb.com
The bitcointalk proxy is in attack and it is already in discussions :-D
legendary
Activity: 3206
Merit: 3596
November 06, 2024, 02:17:34 PM
Never a boring time in bitcointalk Sad
I am reporting that talkimg images are not working in forum again and they look like constantly loading but never opening.
Maybe this attackers are not only trying to hurt talkimg website but also to damage bitcointalk forum.


This also applies to other image hosting sites like postimg.cc and imgbb.com
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 1282
Logo Designer ⛨ BSFL Division1
November 06, 2024, 01:28:11 PM
Never a boring time in bitcointalk Sad
I am reporting that talkimg images are not working in forum again and they look like constantly loading but never opening.
Maybe this attackers are not only trying to hurt talkimg website but also to damage bitcointalk forum.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
November 06, 2024, 01:15:13 PM
- If joker_josue merely promises that no logs are kept, then I think that that is sufficient for now, and I will exempt TalkImg from the proxy, once TalkImg is working again.
Joker_joshue just posted IP-addresses (used in the DDOS). His webhost may not even allow him to not keep logs.

Quote
So if anyone is ultra-paranoid, be aware that your browser may start making connections to talkimg.com sometime soon. If you're really opposed to that, block it via a hosts file or something.
Code:
127.0.0.1       talkimg.com
127.0.0.1       www.talkimg.com
administrator
Activity: 5222
Merit: 13032
November 06, 2024, 01:09:53 PM
- Maybe bitcointalk.org could pay TalkImg a monthly fee for a contractual guarantee that they won't keep logs. TalkImg could then be exempted from the proxy, and furthermore they would have more resources to function well.

I decided that this plan is unnecessarily complicated, at least for now. So:
 - I already donated ~0.1 BTC to TalkImg, unconditionally and without discussing any of this with joker_josue.
 - If joker_josue merely promises that no logs are kept, then I think that that is sufficient for now, and I will exempt TalkImg from the proxy, once TalkImg is working again.

So if anyone is ultra-paranoid, be aware that your browser may start making connections to talkimg.com sometime soon. If you're really opposed to that, block it via a hosts file or something.
hero member
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Merit: 661
- Jay -
November 06, 2024, 11:03:52 AM
I'd rather avoid having to do it at all.
If linking with Talkimg works, you may not have to. If possible, a link to the website can be available on the page to compose a message and anyone who clicks on the image link is redirected there in a new tab. This will reduce the time to go search for the topic thread like I normally do.

I guess it wouldn't be so bad if you only allowed ranked Members to upload images + add some limits similar to what we have with DMs. It would be more convenient, for sure.
The current image system only allows Jr. Member+ rank to post images, a forum system that works in similar way will work fine. There can also be some board restrictions for certain ranks, this will be for boards that gets lots of images regularly.

- Jay -
legendary
Activity: 2758
Merit: 6830
November 06, 2024, 10:52:34 AM
I wouldn't make something as open as TalkImg, since otherwise after a few years I'd be getting like 100 DMCA takedowns per day which I'd have to figure out some way of processing. It'd have to be somehow a lot more restricted so that the long-term moderation burden isn't too high. I'd rather avoid having to do it at all.
I guess it wouldn't be so bad if you only allowed ranked Members to upload images + add some limits similar to what we have with DMs. It would be more convenient, for sure.
administrator
Activity: 5222
Merit: 13032
November 06, 2024, 10:50:15 AM
I had always wondered why this was not available, especially after some of the issues we have run into with image hosting websites in the past. Is there any reason why it is the last option on the list (chronogically)? I assumed it was a difficult feature to implement and an expensive one too, but I do not have enough technical skills to confirm that.

The storage/data-transfer wouldn't be especially expensive, but it's a large feature to add, and then it's a whole new thing that has to be moderated. I wouldn't make something as open as TalkImg, since otherwise after a few years I'd be getting like 10 DMCA takedowns per day which I'd have to figure out some way of processing. It'd have to be somehow a lot more restricted so that the long-term moderation burden wouldn't be too high. I'd rather avoid having to do it at all.
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 661
- Jay -
November 06, 2024, 10:44:19 AM
- Bitcointalk.org could add support for uploading images directly.
I had always wondered why this was not available, especially after some of the issues we have run into with image hosting websites in the past. Is there any reason why it is the last option on the list (chronogically)? I assumed it was a difficult feature to implement and an expensive one too, but I do not have enough technical skills to confirm that.

Talkimg is a service that has become a big part of the forum. If the above cannot be readily done and a quicker fix is needed, I am all for exempting it from th proxy and making it an (official) unofficial hosting website for the forum.

- Jay -
administrator
Activity: 5222
Merit: 13032
November 06, 2024, 10:38:45 AM
So indeed, the forum's image proxy is affected.

Yeah, now the imageproxy is under a DDoS. (You may still see some images due to caching in your browser.)

I'm not going to try to fix this. It's really difficult to put a proxy behind DDoS protection, because the attacker can always find and take down the outbound IP. Even if the outbound IP is different from the inbound IP, and even if the outbound IP drops all incoming connections from the general Internet, the outbound IP's networking can be entirely taken down through a sufficiently-large IP flood, which makes the proxy stop working. Maybe it could theoretically be fixed by having dozens of outbound IPs, or downloading images via Tor, but the former would be difficult to set up and maintain, and the latter would degrade performance. So my intention has always been that the imageproxy would just be expendable in the event of a DDoS. My plan is as follows:

First, I'm just going to wait a few days. Often DDoS attacks are temporary. I'm not really sure what motivates them, but it costs money to keep them up, so they rarely last all that long. (I have a bit of a conspiracy theory that these random DDoS attacks are done by DDoS protection companies to make the Internet impossible to use without being behind DDoS protection...)

If the attack is still going on in a few days, I'll consider measures like these:
 - If there are any image hosts run by trustworthy companies where the privacy policy says that they don't keep logs, these could be exempted from the proxy. If you know of any, let me know.
 - Maybe bitcointalk.org could pay TalkImg a monthly fee for a contractual guarantee that they won't keep logs. TalkImg could then be exempted from the proxy, and furthermore they would have more resources to function well.
 - Bitcointalk.org could add support for uploading images directly.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 3878
Hire Bitcointalk Camp. Manager @ r7promotions.com
November 06, 2024, 09:57:25 AM
Not fine. I have images on my own server and they are not loading too. Like I said now it's not something from talkimg but something related to forum server.

From the latest information I received from my host, this wave of attacks may be affecting more servers around the world.
With BTC the bad guys are pumping too :-D
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
November 06, 2024, 09:01:01 AM
the forum's image proxy is not fine, someone needs to check on him
It worked when I posted the image, but now I see "loading". So indeed, the forum's image proxy is affected.

These guys don't give up. What's the goal?
Last 30min.:
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130.41.66.128
491.64k
136.226.194.151
438.39k
130.41.10.135
425.27k
According to iplocation.net: the first and last IP are from an ISP in Canada, the other in Switzerland. Looks like a regular botnet.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 4711
**In BTC since 2013**
November 06, 2024, 08:40:59 AM
Not fine. I have images on my own server and they are not loading too. Like I said now it's not something from talkimg but something related to forum server.

From the latest information I received from my host, this wave of attacks may be affecting more servers around the world.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 3878
Hire Bitcointalk Camp. Manager @ r7promotions.com
November 06, 2024, 08:23:24 AM
Images are not loading and I am sure it's has nothing to do with talkimg. This time it seems something wrong with forum server. Can someone confirm that they are having the same issue?
If you can see this image, the forum's image proxy is working fine:
Image loading...
Not fine. I have images on my own server and they are not loading too. Like I said now it's not something from talkimg but something related to forum server.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 4711
**In BTC since 2013**
November 06, 2024, 08:18:39 AM
I am facing another attack, which is being contained by Cloudflare.  Undecided

So the response time may be longer than normal.


EDIT:
These guys don't give up. What's the goal?
Last 30min.:
Joker_josue,  I think the decision to expand your service to another forum is up to you.

As it is now, you will lose a huge amount of users in altcoinstalks.com.  additionally,  some users from bitcointalk who also use the other forum might migrate to another tool that fit both forums.

I understand the costs, it is not a simple decision

Now let this phase calm down, so you can think about it calmly.  Wink
hero member
Activity: 510
Merit: 574
Too Little, Too Late.
November 06, 2024, 07:51:17 AM
Images are not loading and I am sure it's has nothing to do with talkimg. This time it seems something wrong with forum server. Can someone confirm that they are having the same issue?
If you can see this image, the forum's image proxy is working fine:
Image loading...

the forum's image proxy is not fine, someone needs to check on him
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
November 06, 2024, 07:13:12 AM
Images are not loading and I am sure it's has nothing to do with talkimg. This time it seems something wrong with forum server. Can someone confirm that they are having the same issue?
If you can see this image, the forum's image proxy is working fine:
Image loading...
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