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legendary
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September 10, 2024, 08:12:10 AM
It is a problem really. On the one hand such control helps to prevent lots of crimes. Even knowing about it stops from committing a crime. But on the other hand we have law-abiding people who will feel themselves at least uncomfortable if someone can read their private dialogs. The same time it can be some confidential commercial information in such dialogs, that must see only two people.

Anyway, returning to the thread, we must remember that scam risks much higher in messengers.
And this is also probably connected with the fact that the authors of such messages expect that law enforcement agencies have no time to engage in any kind of reasoning about him and no one will clean him out and, if there are good reasons, somehow punish him. This confidence completely destroys the brakes in some people with views that contradict normal moral and ethical standards, generally accepted throughout the world. Unfortunately, the filtering of nasty or criminal messages on the Internet is clearly insufficient in my opinion and this filtering still lags behind this onslaught of all kinds of informational filth and these scumbags themselves who allow themselves to do this.
Mostly it is "one day" accounts. The are created only for scam and after 1-2 big deals they are deleted. It is possible to find such cheaters, but it is too hard even without cryptocurrencies. But when the cheater work with cryptocurrencies no one want to investigate this crime. So we have to remember that there are lots of cheaters in the internet and it would be better to think bad about good man than give money to the bad man thinking that he is good enough.
On the other hand, I continue to be an optimist and in my opinion it is somehow bad and wrong to suspect everyone of fraudulent intentions. After all, there are probably many more decent and honest people in the world who do not commit and will never commit a crime in the future.

However, you are partly right that the suspicion of bad intentions to rob you or otherwise extort money from you sometimes arises too late precisely because we initially do not guess that we are dealing with a fraudster.
Apparently, we all just need to be more attentive and careful. And not forget about it in the euphoria of the game, which most likely happens often.
hero member
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September 09, 2024, 05:50:37 AM
Regardless whether true or not true about what he promises to do, what is the basis for trusting him with my money, a total stranger for that matter and of all platforms it's telegram which is a place widely known as a harbour for scammers.

There are gambling games that doesn't requires one to have knowledge and skills on it to be able to play, with some luck you good to having a win as chance permits. So making my bets myself and knowing where my money could probably go to is a much better. If I win I win, if I lose I lose. Better to lose a bet than having the feeling of been scammed.


You are mate, instead of trusting any gambling official via telegram, I think it's better to meet a guidance face to face, so that if there's any act of scam, you can know how deal with the person and where to look for the person but if it's on telegram, they can even delete all the previous chat and reset their user and the victim can not be able to identify whom they were chatting with. I don't think I can make the mistake of truth anyone with my money on telegram, considering the past experience I have had on that app.
hero member
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September 09, 2024, 12:52:34 AM
It is a problem really. On the one hand such control helps to prevent lots of crimes. Even knowing about it stops from committing a crime. But on the other hand we have law-abiding people who will feel themselves at least uncomfortable if someone can read their private dialogs. The same time it can be some confidential commercial information in such dialogs, that must see only two people.

Anyway, returning to the thread, we must remember that scam risks much higher in messengers.
And this is also probably connected with the fact that the authors of such messages expect that law enforcement agencies have no time to engage in any kind of reasoning about him and no one will clean him out and, if there are good reasons, somehow punish him. This confidence completely destroys the brakes in some people with views that contradict normal moral and ethical standards, generally accepted throughout the world. Unfortunately, the filtering of nasty or criminal messages on the Internet is clearly insufficient in my opinion and this filtering still lags behind this onslaught of all kinds of informational filth and these scumbags themselves who allow themselves to do this.
Mostly it is "one day" accounts. The are created only for scam and after 1-2 big deals they are deleted. It is possible to find such cheaters, but it is too hard even without cryptocurrencies. But when the cheater work with cryptocurrencies no one want to investigate this crime. So we have to remember that there are lots of cheaters in the internet and it would be better to think bad about good man than give money to the bad man thinking that he is good enough.
hero member
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September 07, 2024, 01:02:56 PM
This has to be a scam, I believe that's why OP got a red trust already, when something sounds too good to be true it is likely a scam, it is only greedy assholes that will patronise this idea, to me it is just too clear why this is a scam.


Like I mentioned before - betting agents are real, they help punters to place bets most especially those that have been restricted by the casino for one reason or another, betting agents help them to make huge betting without them having to worry about the restrictions or not.

Although, we don’t know if this thread the op opened was genuine or not but it’s still worth noting that a service like this exist. And also the op has moved on from the forum so I don’t really get how the thread was able to grow to 7 pages.
hero member
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September 07, 2024, 09:54:21 AM
Using a new casino that doesn't have any good reputation yet is not proper because most new casinos normally have systems issues, that's is why most times when a gambler wins he finds it hard to withdraw the money that he won, and delay on deposit is also another thing we wouldn't want to think of.
The old casinos are the ones we can fully trust because they have built their reputation and they wouldn't won't to risk losing what they have built so far. However, putting a trust in the OP won't end well.
You have a point only that you looped it together, the old casinos are better, especially if they have a good reputation with track records of minimal complaints, they will surely deliver excellence to the gambler. I also hope they are well capitalised because it's another issue regarding whether you are in the industry for long and have a few complaints, what if the ones with huge wagering and withdrawal requests are not paid? These are also what we should look at when considering the new casinos.

The issue you raised about their system is right but the more concerning issue is whether or not they will pay you, especially if you are withdrawing big. Some of them may have that amount to pay but due to greed they might seize it for themselves, so it's riskier to opt for a new casino that is just starting everything, who knows what they would become? Experience has taught us that.
sr. member
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September 07, 2024, 08:36:22 AM
This has to be a scam, I believe that's why OP got a red trust already, when something sounds too good to be true it is likely a scam, it is only greedy assholes that will patronise this idea, to me it is just too clear why this is a scam.

Since many people have become aware about this scam this thread should be locked or moved already, we should all be careful about every gambling offers online, gambling is nothing but a game of trying your luck, there is no assurance anywhere, when people offer you nonsense like this online do not buy it, block them off instantly.
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1465
September 07, 2024, 03:58:36 AM
I can agree that it is decreasing criminality level, but the same time i feel myself uncomfortable when i know that all my words can be read by someone else. It doesn`t mean that CIA or KGB reading my messages, but it is uncomfortable to know that they have such opportunity. Just one example. The police stopped me for speeding and check my phone, include messengers. It is awful feeling.
Oh, Yeah! Of course, when you start to be controlled to such an extent that you are subjected to inspection, and sometimes even interrogation, then these are extremely unpleasant feelings. One can only be glad that if you are a truly law-abiding citizen, then such completely unnecessary "adventures" do not happen so often. But after they happen, as you write, for example, with these policemen, then for a long time a person feels disgusted and wants to swear and spit. However, even without such checks, law enforcement agencies probably cannot perform their protective functions towards people. One has to agree with this.
It is a problem really. On the one hand such control helps to prevent lots of crimes. Even knowing about it stops from committing a crime. But on the other hand we have law-abiding people who will feel themselves at least uncomfortable if someone can read their private dialogs. The same time it can be some confidential commercial information in such dialogs, that must see only two people.

Anyway, returning to the thread, we must remember that scam risks much higher in messengers.
And this is also probably connected with the fact that the authors of such messages expect that law enforcement agencies have no time to engage in any kind of reasoning about him and no one will clean him out and, if there are good reasons, somehow punish him. This confidence completely destroys the brakes in some people with views that contradict normal moral and ethical standards, generally accepted throughout the world. Unfortunately, the filtering of nasty or criminal messages on the Internet is clearly insufficient in my opinion and this filtering still lags behind this onslaught of all kinds of informational filth and these scumbags themselves who allow themselves to do this.
hero member
Activity: 2548
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September 06, 2024, 07:53:36 AM
I can agree that it is decreasing criminality level, but the same time i feel myself uncomfortable when i know that all my words can be read by someone else. It doesn`t mean that CIA or KGB reading my messages, but it is uncomfortable to know that they have such opportunity. Just one example. The police stopped me for speeding and check my phone, include messengers. It is awful feeling.
Oh, Yeah! Of course, when you start to be controlled to such an extent that you are subjected to inspection, and sometimes even interrogation, then these are extremely unpleasant feelings. One can only be glad that if you are a truly law-abiding citizen, then such completely unnecessary "adventures" do not happen so often. But after they happen, as you write, for example, with these policemen, then for a long time a person feels disgusted and wants to swear and spit. However, even without such checks, law enforcement agencies probably cannot perform their protective functions towards people. One has to agree with this.
It is a problem really. On the one hand such control helps to prevent lots of crimes. Even knowing about it stops from committing a crime. But on the other hand we have law-abiding people who will feel themselves at least uncomfortable if someone can read their private dialogs. The same time it can be some confidential commercial information in such dialogs, that must see only two people.

Anyway, returning to the thread, we must remember that scam risks much higher in messengers.
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1465
September 06, 2024, 03:15:49 AM
It is too strong temptation to control everything, when you have access to someones` secrets. Any intelligence agency will use their opportunities to their own goals. Every of them will be happy to get some unaccountable funds. Today they are struggle with criminality, tomorrow they use it for their own interests. That`s why i don`t like any control of messengers, but it is nowadays realty and we can`t do anything with it except being good users Smiley
By the way, the fact that individuals who are potentially prone to criminal activity know that, based on their social media profiles, intelligence agencies, and even AI, will still identify them personally if they commit a crime is a powerful means of deterring the overall crime rate. No one who knows that they are guaranteed to be caught will commit a crime. So it’s even good that information about such methods of tracking criminals periodically becomes public through the media and through sanctioned or accidental spread of rumors.
You see, and due to this, the world will see at least a small, but still a reduction in crime.
I can agree that it is decreasing criminality level, but the same time i feel myself uncomfortable when i know that all my words can be read by someone else. It doesn`t mean that CIA or KGB reading my messages, but it is uncomfortable to know that they have such opportunity. Just one example. The police stopped me for speeding and check my phone, include messengers. It is awful feeling.
Oh, Yeah! Of course, when you start to be controlled to such an extent that you are subjected to inspection, and sometimes even interrogation, then these are extremely unpleasant feelings. One can only be glad that if you are a truly law-abiding citizen, then such completely unnecessary "adventures" do not happen so often. But after they happen, as you write, for example, with these policemen, then for a long time a person feels disgusted and wants to swear and spit. However, even without such checks, law enforcement agencies probably cannot perform their protective functions towards people. One has to agree with this.
sr. member
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September 05, 2024, 11:50:31 AM
The word "karma" is not on present on the vocabulary of scammers.
They have a lot of time to do it and even make it as a business. Easy money for them!

That's how bad they are; their business is to give us a headache, and knowing that, it would be foolish to still fall for the scam. Since scammers are just around the corner, we should be smart enough to minimize the risk in gambling by using only reputable casinos instead of trying new ones just for the experience and trusting them with our money. That shouldn't be our mindset.
It is important for us to always be cautious, especially in online gambling. Using casinos with a good reputation is a safe step. Trying new platforms just for the experience without doing proper research can be risky. The security and protection of our funds should always be a top priority.
Actually you are right.
Using a new casino that doesn't have any good reputation yet is not proper because most new casinos normally have systems issues, that's is why most times when a gambler wins he finds it hard to withdraw the money that he won, and delay on deposit is also another thing we wouldn't want to think of.
The old casinos are the ones we can fully trust because they have built their reputation and they wouldn't won't to risk losing what they have built so far. However, putting a trust in the OP won't end well.
legendary
Activity: 1022
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September 05, 2024, 11:42:52 AM
Ok, so I have to trust you to send you my money for a bet, then you use that money to place the bet in some Asian bookie, and if I win you give me my money back minus your fee. Did I understand correctly?

I would never send my money to strangers via Telegram. Why should I trust you?
Lolz the Op has missed road by coming here to create such fraudulent thread. I didn't even read everything and as I saw the phrase "Telegram Sport Betting Agent" then everything has spoiled. And I don't think anyone here that is not greedy will do such of sending money to him and his colleagues to bet. And even he wins, he can still tell you, he loss and you money is gone. They will come with different strategies but we will still detect them. Op is a pure scammer from telegram.
legendary
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September 05, 2024, 09:56:36 AM


The word "karma" is not on present on the vocabulary of scammers.
They have a lot of time to do it and even make it as a business. Easy money for them!

Sorry, this is not to support what scammer do or assume their reason or choosing to scam other people is justifiable, but if we must face reality, I did tell you that scamming is not as easy as many of us think, and it's wrong to consider the money they make from scamming as an easy one, for some scammer, it can sometimes take up to a year of building and planning to finally launch a scam and be successful it in.

I read the confession of one scammer who hacked an exchange but later returned the money after a good bounty was promised for him, he said that after finding a malicious code on the exchange's database that could be exploited, he built a script which he can install into the exchange's database through the error code that will give him access to withdraw from the exchange's hot wallet, as well as divert user deposits, withdrawals, transaction fees to his own specified wallet address.
After writing the script, he said he needed some kind of permission from the exchange before he could install it, that is, he needed something in the database of the exchange to go offline before he could install his script so that the exchange won't notice.

And according to him, he spent over 2 years and 8 months, sitting and watching his computer, monitoring all the actions of the exchange and waiting for that opportunity, It was after 2 years and in the 9th month that what he needed to be offline went offline for a moment, and that was how he installed his script, and by the time the software came back online, he was in and that was how he hacked the exchange and stole hundreds of millions of dollars.

Now, do you call that an easy money? How many of legitimate workers have such level of dedication and determination to/for their job or business?; for those running their own business.
legendary
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September 05, 2024, 08:15:19 AM
The word "karma" is not on present on the vocabulary of scammers.
They have a lot of time to do it and even make it as a business. Easy money for them!

That's how bad they are; their business is to give us a headache, and knowing that, it would be foolish to still fall for the scam. Since scammers are just around the corner, we should be smart enough to minimize the risk in gambling by using only reputable casinos instead of trying new ones just for the experience and trusting them with our money. That shouldn't be our mindset.
It is important for us to always be cautious, especially in online gambling. Using casinos with a good reputation is a safe step. Trying new platforms just for the experience without doing proper research can be risky. The security and protection of our funds should always be a top priority.

Check the ANN thread and see the casinos feedback. If there's no negative feedback, then we can consider them as reputable casinos. Also, look to see if they are actively promoting the casino because that adds value. Casinos with more promotions are more likely to attract a lot of gamblers, and if many people are playing and there are no serious complaints, that indicates the casino is legitimate and safe to gamble with. Forget about those Telegram gambling options if we have better alternatives.
hero member
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September 05, 2024, 08:05:46 AM
It is too strong temptation to control everything, when you have access to someones` secrets. Any intelligence agency will use their opportunities to their own goals. Every of them will be happy to get some unaccountable funds. Today they are struggle with criminality, tomorrow they use it for their own interests. That`s why i don`t like any control of messengers, but it is nowadays realty and we can`t do anything with it except being good users Smiley
By the way, the fact that individuals who are potentially prone to criminal activity know that, based on their social media profiles, intelligence agencies, and even AI, will still identify them personally if they commit a crime is a powerful means of deterring the overall crime rate. No one who knows that they are guaranteed to be caught will commit a crime. So it’s even good that information about such methods of tracking criminals periodically becomes public through the media and through sanctioned or accidental spread of rumors.
You see, and due to this, the world will see at least a small, but still a reduction in crime.
I can agree that it is decreasing criminality level, but the same time i feel myself uncomfortable when i know that all my words can be read by someone else. It doesn`t mean that CIA or KGB reading my messages, but it is uncomfortable to know that they have such opportunity. Just one example. The police stopped me for speeding and check my phone, include messengers. It is awful feeling.
hero member
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September 05, 2024, 03:15:51 AM
To be frankly I kinda don't like to use any betting agent employed on Telegram. They say Telegram  communications  are encrypted... probably it is what it is,  but the reality is that all decryption keys are under control of the Russia intelligence agencies, so that they are able to listen to all communications. So manipulations can not be excluded.
It doesn`t matter who control the messenger. If it would be CIAs` whatsapp will you fill yourself better? The problem is that you`re invited to any messenger - mostly it means that someone will try to convince you that he is the best choice for all your purposes. With the only goal - get your money and say "bye-bye".
That's right.
In my opinion, any messenger is controlled to some extent by all the intelligence agencies of the most powerful countries in the world. And this is understandable in the context of combating human crimes, which involves communication between them during the commission of crimes. Apparently, soon, regardless of the messenger and its encryption and the country that is believed to be controlling it, as well as with the help of AI, security specialists will be able to identify and counteract criminals in advance. This is correct from the point of view of both combating criminals and harmonizing public relations in general, but of course to the extent that can be considered reasonable and consistent with the general vector of development of civilization.
But in no way, of course, ignoring the individual abilities and needs of any person.
And not establishing such an order as drones marching in ranks in the Star Wars saga.
It is too strong temptation to control everything, when you have access to someones` secrets. Any intelligence agency will use their opportunities to their own goals. Every of them will be happy to get some unaccountable funds. Today they are struggle with criminality, tomorrow they use it for their own interests. That`s why i don`t like any control of messengers, but it is nowadays realty and we can`t do anything with it except being good users Smiley
What we all canvass about regarding the social media platform is "freedom," but as good and true as the word is, it has pros and cons. If you know the evil that some social media and other anonymity-enabled apps are aiding you would cry for the world, this is why I will always canvass for regulation as well.

Strict regulation or light one, I don't care, "where there is no law, there is no crime" and the heart of an average human being is wickedly wicked, we shouldn't always defend wickedness under any guise. You may trust yourself, but what about the others? We can't know their intention and if you look around, how many people can you truly trust? People are selfish and will always commit crimes for a peanut, so if the regulation could make social media more accountable, there would be nothing bad in that.

It might get to a point that everyone using social media would do KYC, you can mark that, as the world government may be cooperative about that with time. This is not about taking the freedom from people as many would say but letting you know you are not invisible and must be accountable for your deeds.
legendary
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September 05, 2024, 01:56:45 AM
To be frankly I kinda don't like to use any betting agent employed on Telegram. They say Telegram  communications  are encrypted... probably it is what it is,  but the reality is that all decryption keys are under control of the Russia intelligence agencies, so that they are able to listen to all communications. So manipulations can not be excluded.
It doesn`t matter who control the messenger. If it would be CIAs` whatsapp will you fill yourself better? The problem is that you`re invited to any messenger - mostly it means that someone will try to convince you that he is the best choice for all your purposes. With the only goal - get your money and say "bye-bye".
That's right.
In my opinion, any messenger is controlled to some extent by all the intelligence agencies of the most powerful countries in the world. And this is understandable in the context of combating human crimes, which involves communication between them during the commission of crimes. Apparently, soon, regardless of the messenger and its encryption and the country that is believed to be controlling it, as well as with the help of AI, security specialists will be able to identify and counteract criminals in advance. This is correct from the point of view of both combating criminals and harmonizing public relations in general, but of course to the extent that can be considered reasonable and consistent with the general vector of development of civilization.
But in no way, of course, ignoring the individual abilities and needs of any person.
And not establishing such an order as drones marching in ranks in the Star Wars saga.
It is too strong temptation to control everything, when you have access to someones` secrets. Any intelligence agency will use their opportunities to their own goals. Every of them will be happy to get some unaccountable funds. Today they are struggle with criminality, tomorrow they use it for their own interests. That`s why i don`t like any control of messengers, but it is nowadays realty and we can`t do anything with it except being good users Smiley
By the way, the fact that individuals who are potentially prone to criminal activity know that, based on their social media profiles, intelligence agencies, and even AI, will still identify them personally if they commit a crime is a powerful means of deterring the overall crime rate. No one who knows that they are guaranteed to be caught will commit a crime. So it’s even good that information about such methods of tracking criminals periodically becomes public through the media and through sanctioned or accidental spread of rumors.
You see, and due to this, the world will see at least a small, but still a reduction in crime.
hero member
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September 04, 2024, 08:46:23 AM
The word "karma" is not on present on the vocabulary of scammers.
They have a lot of time to do it and even make it as a business. Easy money for them!

That's how bad they are; their business is to give us a headache, and knowing that, it would be foolish to still fall for the scam. Since scammers are just around the corner, we should be smart enough to minimize the risk in gambling by using only reputable casinos instead of trying new ones just for the experience and trusting them with our money. That shouldn't be our mindset.
It is important for us to always be cautious, especially in online gambling. Using casinos with a good reputation is a safe step. Trying new platforms just for the experience without doing proper research can be risky. The security and protection of our funds should always be a top priority.
hero member
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September 04, 2024, 08:18:41 AM
The word "karma" is not on present on the vocabulary of scammers.
They have a lot of time to do it and even make it as a business. Easy money for them!

That's how bad they are; their business is to give us a headache, and knowing that, it would be foolish to still fall for the scam. Since scammers are just around the corner, we should be smart enough to minimize the risk in gambling by using only reputable casinos instead of trying new ones just for the experience and trusting them with our money. That shouldn't be our mindset.
hero member
Activity: 2548
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September 04, 2024, 05:13:54 AM
To be frankly I kinda don't like to use any betting agent employed on Telegram. They say Telegram  communications  are encrypted... probably it is what it is,  but the reality is that all decryption keys are under control of the Russia intelligence agencies, so that they are able to listen to all communications. So manipulations can not be excluded.
It doesn`t matter who control the messenger. If it would be CIAs` whatsapp will you fill yourself better? The problem is that you`re invited to any messenger - mostly it means that someone will try to convince you that he is the best choice for all your purposes. With the only goal - get your money and say "bye-bye".
That's right.
In my opinion, any messenger is controlled to some extent by all the intelligence agencies of the most powerful countries in the world. And this is understandable in the context of combating human crimes, which involves communication between them during the commission of crimes. Apparently, soon, regardless of the messenger and its encryption and the country that is believed to be controlling it, as well as with the help of AI, security specialists will be able to identify and counteract criminals in advance. This is correct from the point of view of both combating criminals and harmonizing public relations in general, but of course to the extent that can be considered reasonable and consistent with the general vector of development of civilization.
But in no way, of course, ignoring the individual abilities and needs of any person.
And not establishing such an order as drones marching in ranks in the Star Wars saga.
It is too strong temptation to control everything, when you have access to someones` secrets. Any intelligence agency will use their opportunities to their own goals. Every of them will be happy to get some unaccountable funds. Today they are struggle with criminality, tomorrow they use it for their own interests. That`s why i don`t like any control of messengers, but it is nowadays realty and we can`t do anything with it except being good users Smiley
legendary
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September 04, 2024, 02:53:11 AM
To be frankly I kinda don't like to use any betting agent employed on Telegram. They say Telegram  communications  are encrypted... probably it is what it is,  but the reality is that all decryption keys are under control of the Russia intelligence agencies, so that they are able to listen to all communications. So manipulations can not be excluded.
It doesn`t matter who control the messenger. If it would be CIAs` whatsapp will you fill yourself better? The problem is that you`re invited to any messenger - mostly it means that someone will try to convince you that he is the best choice for all your purposes. With the only goal - get your money and say "bye-bye".
That's right.
In my opinion, any messenger is controlled to some extent by all the intelligence agencies of the most powerful countries in the world. And this is understandable in the context of combating human crimes, which involves communication between them during the commission of crimes. Apparently, soon, regardless of the messenger and its encryption and the country that is believed to be controlling it, as well as with the help of AI, security specialists will be able to identify and counteract criminals in advance. This is correct from the point of view of both combating criminals and harmonizing public relations in general, but of course to the extent that can be considered reasonable and consistent with the general vector of development of civilization.
But in no way, of course, ignoring the individual abilities and needs of any person.
And not establishing such an order as drones marching in ranks in the Star Wars saga.
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