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Quote from: Crypto Library on August 15, 2024, 06:03:07 PM

Quote from: topbitcoin on August 15, 2024, 05:37:46 PM

I catch your thought, then I would like to say how long will the web3 casino last, will pay you when you win, and serve you very well? Will it be forever?
How sure are you about that? maybe not in one year or two years, but what about 5 years? 10 years? Is their business going to last that long, what if after 5 years they stop paying you and take your money away at a time when you are very trusting? try to think long term.
You compare this with bitcoin, of course it is a different case even though both are created by anonymous people on the internet, but bitcoin has been tested for more than a decade and bitcoin adopters are not human level like us.

Alright, then can you guarantee that something centralized platform can long-lasting forever? I sure you also cannot guarantee of that and as well as I also can't guarantee that something like decentralized web3 platform will long-last forever, And we also don't know who will take our money and run away.
If you visit the Scam Accusations board then you will find there are lots Scam Accusations centralized casino's all have the risks but I will not disagree with you that web3 decentralized casino are one step ahead on it, But if you are looking for anonymity in your gambling then you have to go through decentralized platform.

I don't believe it will last either, did I say that?
And did I say that centralized casinos are risk-free and say that web3 casinos are lagging behind?

Of course if I wanted to remain anonymous I would use web3 casino, I'm very familiar with it, you don't need to give such general advice.

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Quote from: topbitcoin on August 15, 2024, 05:37:46 PM

Besides, OP's offer is not about decentralization, he is clearly offering to be your bet provider. LOL

When did I say op is offering the decentralized service? Roll Eyes

So where is your argument going? Why are you linking it to bitcoin and decentralized casinos? Roll Eyes

Are you not understanding the context of the conversation?

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Quote from: topbitcoin on August 15, 2024, 05:37:46 PM

I catch your thought, then I would like to say how long will the web3 casino last, will pay you when you win, and serve you very well? Will it be forever?
How sure are you about that? maybe not in one year or two years, but what about 5 years? 10 years? Is their business going to last that long, what if after 5 years they stop paying you and take your money away at a time when you are very trusting? try to think long term.
You compare this with bitcoin, of course it is a different case even though both are created by anonymous people on the internet, but bitcoin has been tested for more than a decade and bitcoin adopters are not human level like us.

Alright, then can you guarantee that something centralized platform can long-lasting forever? I sure you also cannot guarantee of that and as well as I also can't guarantee that something like decentralized web3 platform will long-last forever, And we also don't know who will take our money and run away.
If you visit the Scam Accusations board then you will find there are lots Scam Accusations centralized casino's all have the risks but I will not disagree with you that web3 decentralized casino are one step ahead on it, But if you are looking for anonymity in your gambling then you have to go through decentralized platform.

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Besides, OP's offer is not about decentralization, he is clearly offering to be your bet provider. LOL

When did I say op is offering the decentralized service? Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Crypto Library on August 15, 2024, 04:40:04 PM

Quote from: topbitcoin on August 15, 2024, 02:51:25 PM

Trusting people in the anonymous internet world like this is stupid, not a few scams have happened, what is this service is really not worth it in my opinion, whatever the reason, conditions, level of trust and other things like that in the case of services like this it is very untrustworthy, it is better to use the site that we are used to betting than a place like that, how they don't pay if we win, how they take away their customers after gaining a lot of trust.

I agree that is the fastest way for you to lose money and cry.

This is really a shitty poor effort of Scammers to scam peoples.

I won't say that trusting anonymous peoples will be stupid because if we trust bitcoin then we already trusting the anonymous peoples behind of this. But in the case of playing gambling here we already have lots of Decentralized Casino to make sports betting and there we don't have to use 3rd party for placing our bets with staying fully anonymous then why do peoples will use these services and why people are trusting these scammers

I catch your thought, then I would like to say how long will the web3 casino last, will pay you when you win, and serve you very well? Will it be forever?
How sure are you about that? maybe not in one year or two years, but what about 5 years? 10 years? Is their business going to last that long, what if after 5 years they stop paying you and take your money away at a time when you are very trusting? try to think long term.
You compare this with bitcoin, of course it is a different case even though both are created by anonymous people on the internet, but bitcoin has been tested for more than a decade and bitcoin adopters are not human level like us.

Besides, OP's offer is not about decentralization, he is clearly offering to be your bet provider. LOL

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Quote from: topbitcoin on August 15, 2024, 02:51:25 PM

Trusting people in the anonymous internet world like this is stupid, not a few scams have happened, what is this service is really not worth it in my opinion, whatever the reason, conditions, level of trust and other things like that in the case of services like this it is very untrustworthy, it is better to use the site that we are used to betting than a place like that, how they don't pay if we win, how they take away their customers after gaining a lot of trust.

I agree that is the fastest way for you to lose money and cry.

This is really a shitty poor effort of Scammers to scam peoples.

I won't say that trusting anonymous peoples will be stupid because if we trust bitcoin then we already trusting the anonymous peoples behind of this. But in the case of playing gambling here we already have lots of Decentralized Casino to make sports betting and there we don't have to use 3rd party for placing our bets with staying fully anonymous then why do peoples will use these services and why people are trusting these scammers

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This is craps for any experience forum users, because at this point this is a clear scam attempts anything that make you lose control over your money is already a scam waiting to happen, and why should anyone Trust a red tagged forum member claiming to be trusted with money, and if the format works for him that well how come he is promoting the service when he should already made so much money that he won't need money any more, I repeat no one should trust this member, and I think this thread should be lock to avoid manipulative comments from alt of the ops that could try to put pressure to deceive others.

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Quote from: mak013 on August 15, 2024, 02:24:01 PM

Quote from: DallasMavs22 on August 14, 2024, 09:32:30 AM

Maybe I would, If the broker/Agent/Service is a reputable one and have known them for quite long. And if their SKYPE account is posted on their official website..

Visit any freelance site and you`ll see how much your money cost. Even if it would somebody well-known from this board - i don`t sure that i can believe him, too much cheaters in the internet nowadays. I always try to find proves in the real world. If the OP shows contacts of the offline business that i can check in any way - it would be the project that can interest me. Any other way, include "PM me for questions" - too easy way to lose money.

Trusting people in the anonymous internet world like this is stupid, not a few scams have happened, what is this service is really not worth it in my opinion, whatever the reason, conditions, level of trust and other things like that in the case of services like this it is very untrustworthy, it is better to use the site that we are used to betting than a place like that, how they don't pay if we win, how they take away their customers after gaining a lot of trust.

I agree that is the fastest way for you to lose money and cry.

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Quote from: DallasMavs22 on August 14, 2024, 09:32:30 AM

Quote from: mak013 on August 14, 2024, 07:53:58 AM

I don`t think that there is any difference between all these platforms. The main idea is the same, use could use even ICQ for it not long ago. The main problem is how to trust someone in the internet. As for me - i don`t ready to believe to anyone unknown. And here the OP wants to attract your money and the same time you have to go to his telegram to get some information. I don`t think that it works so.

Maybe I would, If the broker/Agent/Service is a reputable one and have known them for quite long. And if their SKYPE account is posted on their official website..

Visit any freelance site and you`ll see how much your money cost. Even if it would somebody well-known from this board - i don`t sure that i can believe him, too much cheaters in the internet nowadays. I always try to find proves in the real world. If the OP shows contacts of the offline business that i can check in any way - it would be the project that can interest me. Any other way, include "PM me for questions" - too easy way to lose money.

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Quote from: DallasMavs22 on August 14, 2024, 09:32:30 AM

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Maybe I would, If the broker/Agent/Service is a reputable one and have known them for quite long. And if their SKYPE account is posted on their official website..

It would not make much of a difference, I think.
Nowadays, anyone can set up a professional looking website with relatively little money and not much time, actually, that is how many of the crypto Ponzi schemes operate nowadays: they set up a very good looking webpage and post their telegram there, so people are more likely to fall for the scam.

The only way I could trust someone in Telegram, would be if that person is someone from this forum, with a high reputation and able to sign a message using their personal/business Bitcoin address, otherwise it is healthy and protective enough to assume anyone contacting you through Telegram is a scammer.
Also, I don't understand what would be the objective of going through the hassle of contacting a betting agent, if there are already very reputable services and bookies on the internet, even if the odds are better, the risk of ending up scammed is not worth it .

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Quote from: Poker Player on July 10, 2024, 11:02:18 PM

Ok, so I have to trust you to send you my money for a bet, then you use that money to place the bet in some Asian bookie, and if I win you give me my money back minus your fee. Did I understand correctly?

I would never send my money to strangers via Telegram. Why should I trust you?

It's obvious that ninety-five percent [95%] of people who is running business with telegram including telegraph are scammers, so it's clear that when you give op funds bet for you, they will not even place any bet for you, what they needed is just subscription from you to enjoy life, I think this is a new dimensions of scam.

Quote from: seoincorporation on July 11, 2024, 12:11:38 AM

How do we know you will not walk away with the money, do you really think the people on this forum would give their money to a user with only 1 post on this forum?

Even though is a user with fifty [50] posts difference, I don't think that it deserves to entrust funds to gamble for you, that's a cheap scam method from scammers, if we fail to condemn the impression of op, it will take advantages of people in the name of gambling, so we need to be smart.

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Quote from: mak013 on August 14, 2024, 07:53:58 AM

Quote from: Hispo on August 12, 2024, 12:42:36 PM

Quote from: DallasMavs22 on August 06, 2024, 11:30:50 AM

No interest at all Grin

I used to bet on Skype betting long time ago. But it's not for me now.
I am currently happy with the betting resources I have now.

You all got me curious. what does Skype betting even mean? Do you mean the Microsoft Skype plataform used to be used to host betting agent channels and people communicated their bets to them through Skype?.
It seems like the kind of stuff which would violate the terms of service of Skype, in my opinion. Besides, because do not use that platform anymore, or at least it is not as wide spread as it is used to be back in the day. Telegram sounds rather like a more friendly place for betting third parties to try to reach their potential clients. Even discord seems to be more reliable than Skype, though, I am not sure they would allow gambling groups within their service as Telegram does.

I don`t think that there is any difference between all these platforms. The main idea is the same, use could use even ICQ for it not long ago. The main problem is how to trust someone in the internet. As for me - i don`t ready to believe to anyone unknown. And here the OP wants to attract your money and the same time you have to go to his telegram to get some information. I don`t think that it works so.

Maybe I would, If the broker/Agent/Service is a reputable one and have known them for quite long. And if their SKYPE account is posted on their official website..

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Quote from: Hispo on August 12, 2024, 12:42:36 PM

Quote from: DallasMavs22 on August 06, 2024, 11:30:50 AM

No interest at all Grin

I used to bet on Skype betting long time ago. But it's not for me now.
I am currently happy with the betting resources I have now.

You all got me curious. what does Skype betting even mean? Do you mean the Microsoft Skype plataform used to be used to host betting agent channels and people communicated their bets to them through Skype?.
It seems like the kind of stuff which would violate the terms of service of Skype, in my opinion. Besides, because do not use that platform anymore, or at least it is not as wide spread as it is used to be back in the day. Telegram sounds rather like a more friendly place for betting third parties to try to reach their potential clients. Even discord seems to be more reliable than Skype, though, I am not sure they would allow gambling groups within their service as Telegram does.

I don`t think that there is any difference between all these platforms. The main idea is the same, use could use even ICQ for it not long ago. The main problem is how to trust someone in the internet. As for me - i don`t ready to believe to anyone unknown. And here the OP wants to attract your money and the same time you have to go to his telegram to get some information. I don`t think that it works so.

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Quote from: Hispo on August 12, 2024, 12:42:36 PM

Quote from: DallasMavs22 on August 06, 2024, 11:30:50 AM

Quote from: joniboini on July 23, 2024, 02:38:49 AM

Quote from: DallasMavs22 on July 20, 2024, 12:45:58 PM

Is it similar with Skype Betting before? but this time on telegram?

I believe so. A service where you tell other people to bet on your behalf quickly. But OP just went offline and no longer replies to any inquiry, I don't think it's worth your time to test it out even if you have some money to burn. If this kind of service is interesting to you just scroll around the sub-board for a bit or make a new thread asking for recommendations from reputable members to lower the chance of getting scammed.

No interest at all Grin

I used to bet on Skype betting long time ago. But it's not for me now.
I am currently happy with the betting resources I have now.

You all got me curious. what does Skype betting even mean? Do you mean the Microsoft Skype plataform used to be used to host betting agent channels and people communicated their bets to them through Skype?.
It seems like the kind of stuff which would violate the terms of service of Skype, in my opinion. Besides, because do not use that platform anymore, or at least it is not as wide spread as it is used to be back in the day. Telegram sounds rather like a more friendly place for betting third parties to try to reach their potential clients. Even discord seems to be more reliable than Skype, though, I am not sure they would allow gambling groups within their service as Telegram does.

Yes. Bets are being sent via Skype and the group of traders would take those bets sent on client's behalf.

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Quote from: DallasMavs22 on August 06, 2024, 11:30:50 AM

Quote from: joniboini on July 23, 2024, 02:38:49 AM

Quote from: DallasMavs22 on July 20, 2024, 12:45:58 PM

Is it similar with Skype Betting before? but this time on telegram?

I believe so. A service where you tell other people to bet on your behalf quickly. But OP just went offline and no longer replies to any inquiry, I don't think it's worth your time to test it out even if you have some money to burn. If this kind of service is interesting to you just scroll around the sub-board for a bit or make a new thread asking for recommendations from reputable members to lower the chance of getting scammed.

No interest at all Grin

I used to bet on Skype betting long time ago. But it's not for me now.
I am currently happy with the betting resources I have now.

You all got me curious. what does Skype betting even mean? Do you mean the Microsoft Skype plataform used to be used to host betting agent channels and people communicated their bets to them through Skype?.
It seems like the kind of stuff which would violate the terms of service of Skype, in my opinion. Besides, because do not use that platform anymore, or at least it is not as wide spread as it is used to be back in the day. Telegram sounds rather like a more friendly place for betting third parties to try to reach their potential clients. Even discord seems to be more reliable than Skype, though, I am not sure they would allow gambling groups within their service as Telegram does.

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Quote from: joniboini on July 23, 2024, 02:38:49 AM

Quote from: DallasMavs22 on July 20, 2024, 12:45:58 PM

Is it similar with Skype Betting before? but this time on telegram?

I believe so. A service where you tell other people to bet on your behalf quickly. But OP just went offline and no longer replies to any inquiry, I don't think it's worth your time to test it out even if you have some money to burn. If this kind of service is interesting to you just scroll around the sub-board for a bit or make a new thread asking for recommendations from reputable members to lower the chance of getting scammed.

No interest at all Grin

I used to bet on Skype betting long time ago. But it's not for me now.
I am currently happy with the betting resources I have now.

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Quote from: coin-investor on July 25, 2024, 11:02:49 AM

Quote from: delfastTions on July 24, 2024, 01:55:52 PM

Yeah. I agree that the channels opened in Telegram are a kind of indicator of the lack of reliability of the one who gives a link to this channel. Indeed, a great many of these channels have proliferated, and among them there are many information spammers, scammers and simply talkers who spread outright lies and their own inventions of their sick imagination. Moreover, where we are talking about potential deception in order to take away clients’ money in any way, there are a lot of newly-minted prophets, gurus, prophetic women, witches who remove damage, all sorts of other orcs and many more similar idiots and scammers.

So it’s true, when a certain poster writes in his post on the forum, including on BTT, “come to me on Telegram,” then the best option is to immediately tell him to go to hell.

Many of them just spam you they invite you for a small talk and act like they are newbies and wants to learn something from you and when they got your attention they drop you links on platform they claimed they invested and have made a lot of money.

I'm friendly on Telegram but once the course of conversation directions is going on links that I'm not asking I just block these people tell them to go to hell.

People who will create a thread here and invite you to PM them on their telegram have a lot of tricks for them to deceive you on scam projects they managed so if they are not going to post everything here and all information will be on Telegram better block this people because they have hidden agenda.

This really seems to be a common way to lure you into all sorts of financial schemes in order to get at least something, even just a little money, from you. Perhaps pretending to be simpletons and newbies, these cunning guys ingratiate themselves into your trust, although in reality they are not simpletons or newbies at all, but simply receive their reward, for example, through a system of referral links. So everyone just needs to be more attentive and careful and take a more careful approach in general to potentially communicating with complete strangers.
By the way, scammers are becoming more and more sophisticated.
There is clearly progress in their actions, based on greater camouflage of their fraudulent intentions.

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Quote from: delfastTions on July 24, 2024, 01:55:52 PM

Yeah. I agree that the channels opened in Telegram are a kind of indicator of the lack of reliability of the one who gives a link to this channel. Indeed, a great many of these channels have proliferated, and among them there are many information spammers, scammers and simply talkers who spread outright lies and their own inventions of their sick imagination. Moreover, where we are talking about potential deception in order to take away clients’ money in any way, there are a lot of newly-minted prophets, gurus, prophetic women, witches who remove damage, all sorts of other orcs and many more similar idiots and scammers.

So it’s true, when a certain poster writes in his post on the forum, including on BTT, “come to me on Telegram,” then the best option is to immediately tell him to go to hell.

Many of them just spam you they invite you for a small talk and act like they are newbies and wants to learn something from you and when they got your attention they drop you links on platform they claimed they invested and have made a lot of money.

I'm friendly on Telegram but once the course of conversation directions is going on links that I'm not asking I just block these people tell them to go to hell.

People who will create a thread here and invite you to PM them on their telegram have a lot of tricks for them to deceive you on scam projects they managed so if they are not going to post everything here and all information will be on Telegram better block this people because they have hidden agenda.

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Quote from: mak013 on July 24, 2024, 07:02:16 AM

Quote from: delfastTions on July 23, 2024, 10:06:44 AM

Quote from: taufik123 on July 19, 2024, 11:53:30 AM

Quote from: delfastTions on July 19, 2024, 02:38:33 AM

-snip-
But there may be another goal - to advertise oneself, although such a topic is more of an anti-advertising than an advertisement. On the other hand, anti-advertising is also information that is remembered. Maybe this was his goal?
By the way, if he starts speaking negatively about BTT users or about the forum itself on other sites, then this will also be like advertising.

Whether there is another purpose or not is, no longer important, the OP also does not appear again and replies to this thread.
If he wanted to explain something and reinforce that he had a legitimate business, then he would show up.

But he has already gotten negative Tag as a scammer, and yes now it is no longer important to discuss it.
And this is a warning for everyone to remain cautious in every various scammer mode.

By the way, this is probably a problem for many forums where financial issues are discussed, including cryptocurrencies. There are always guys who write some completely stupid topics, hoping to find fools or very naive users among the community of such forums who will accept and send them money. And unfortunately, among thousands of reasonable, common-sense users, there will definitely be one fool who is ready to give his money to scammers. This is exactly what they, the scum, are counting on. Apparently they even make money from it. It is also necessary to take into account that if the amounts are relatively small, then law enforcement agencies do not react in any way to such fraudulent actions.

It looks like this stream of enticement will be endless.

Red flags for me are using telegram, newbie account and invite "for questions" in telegram or private messages. Also pay attention when there are no any contacts, you can check - any physical stores or company name for example.
Anyway we will often get such threads, so we need at least suppose that the OP is cheater until he proves back.

Yeah. I agree that the channels opened in Telegram are a kind of indicator of the lack of reliability of the one who gives a link to this channel. Indeed, a great many of these channels have proliferated, and among them there are many information spammers, scammers and simply talkers who spread outright lies and their own inventions of their sick imagination. Moreover, where we are talking about potential deception in order to take away clients’ money in any way, there are a lot of newly-minted prophets, gurus, prophetic women, witches who remove damage, all sorts of other orcs and many more similar idiots and scammers.

So it’s true, when a certain poster writes in his post on the forum, including on BTT, “come to me on Telegram,” then the best option is to immediately tell him to go to hell.

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Quote from: joniboini on July 23, 2024, 02:38:49 AM

Quote from: DallasMavs22 on July 20, 2024, 12:45:58 PM

Is it similar with Skype Betting before? but this time on telegram?

I believe so. A service where you tell other people to bet on your behalf quickly. But OP just went offline and no longer replies to any inquiry, I don't think it's worth your time to test it out even if you have some money to burn. If this kind of service is interesting to you just scroll around the sub-board for a bit or make a new thread asking for recommendations from reputable members to lower the chance of getting scammed.

The Op already mentioned that “vast majority of the users here in Bitcointalk are not their targets, due to the fact that they don’t bet huge amount in sports” so it should be expected that they won’t come back to the forum and will probably move to a different gambling community to look for gamblers that are willing to make use of their service and make huge bets.

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Quote from: delfastTions on July 23, 2024, 10:06:44 AM

Quote from: taufik123 on July 19, 2024, 11:53:30 AM

Quote from: delfastTions on July 19, 2024, 02:38:33 AM

-snip-
But there may be another goal - to advertise oneself, although such a topic is more of an anti-advertising than an advertisement. On the other hand, anti-advertising is also information that is remembered. Maybe this was his goal?
By the way, if he starts speaking negatively about BTT users or about the forum itself on other sites, then this will also be like advertising.

Whether there is another purpose or not is, no longer important, the OP also does not appear again and replies to this thread.
If he wanted to explain something and reinforce that he had a legitimate business, then he would show up.

But he has already gotten negative Tag as a scammer, and yes now it is no longer important to discuss it.
And this is a warning for everyone to remain cautious in every various scammer mode.

By the way, this is probably a problem for many forums where financial issues are discussed, including cryptocurrencies. There are always guys who write some completely stupid topics, hoping to find fools or very naive users among the community of such forums who will accept and send them money. And unfortunately, among thousands of reasonable, common-sense users, there will definitely be one fool who is ready to give his money to scammers. This is exactly what they, the scum, are counting on. Apparently they even make money from it. It is also necessary to take into account that if the amounts are relatively small, then law enforcement agencies do not react in any way to such fraudulent actions.

It looks like this stream of enticement will be endless.

Red flags for me are using telegram, newbie account and invite "for questions" in telegram or private messages. Also pay attention when there are no any contacts, you can check - any physical stores or company name for example.
Anyway we will often get such threads, so we need at least suppose that the OP is cheater until he proves back.

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Quote from: taufik123 on July 19, 2024, 11:53:30 AM

Quote from: delfastTions on July 19, 2024, 02:38:33 AM

-snip-
But there may be another goal - to advertise oneself, although such a topic is more of an anti-advertising than an advertisement. On the other hand, anti-advertising is also information that is remembered. Maybe this was his goal?
By the way, if he starts speaking negatively about BTT users or about the forum itself on other sites, then this will also be like advertising.

Whether there is another purpose or not is, no longer important, the OP also does not appear again and replies to this thread.
If he wanted to explain something and reinforce that he had a legitimate business, then he would show up.

But he has already gotten negative Tag as a scammer, and yes now it is no longer important to discuss it.
And this is a warning for everyone to remain cautious in every various scammer mode.

By the way, this is probably a problem for many forums where financial issues are discussed, including cryptocurrencies. There are always guys who write some completely stupid topics, hoping to find fools or very naive users among the community of such forums who will accept and send them money. And unfortunately, among thousands of reasonable, common-sense users, there will definitely be one fool who is ready to give his money to scammers. This is exactly what they, the scum, are counting on. Apparently they even make money from it. It is also necessary to take into account that if the amounts are relatively small, then law enforcement agencies do not react in any way to such fraudulent actions.

It looks like this stream of enticement will be endless.

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